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This programme contains some strong For the next three weeks the Review

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Show will bring you the best, the weirdest and rudiest of what the

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festival has to offer. Live as usual, and joined by a studio who

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couldn't get into any other show! On tonight's show, we explore three

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fringe productions of experimental theatre. Two in unusual locations

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and one which virtually does away with actors all together. We also

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throw ourselves into the best of the Edinburgh Art Festival, with

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new exhi bigs from Tony Cragg, Robert Rauschenberg and the force

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of nature, David Mach. Put Mark Almond and Mark Ravenhill together

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and the result is one of the hottest tickets of the week so far.

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A song-cycle collaboration, Ten Plagues. With 941 comedy acts

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jostling for attention, we ask if there are any tab boos left,

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looking at four comics, whose acts are trying to push the boundaries.

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Asian people don't have a lot of So, here we are in our new home for

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the month, slap bang inside the castle. Joining me to discuss

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everything are writer and Edinburgh resident Hannah McGill. Author and

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critic Natalie Haynes and the novelist Hari Kunzru, whose latest

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book is hot off the fress. Before we get going -- press. Before we

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get going we thought we should give you a taste of the atmosphere. We

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asked Tom Allen to lead us in. With 41,689 performances of 2,542

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across 258 venues using 21,192 official performers, the figures

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for Edinburgh continue to be as baffling as ever. The numbers are

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up on last year. It is still the world's largest arts event. This

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year the big four are closer together.

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George square gardens has been taken over. The weather has

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nominated the conversation. John Malkovich has his own show. The

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Edinburgh International Festival, known to comedians like me, as the

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posh one, draws inspiration from Asian culture. Shakespeare will be

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performed in Korean and man da drin -- mandarin. Phil Glass,vy never

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met him, we are all friends here. I he is making his debut sound

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tracking films. Then, there's the art festival. I know! Taking to the

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street with Martin, David Mach tackles the king James's bible. And

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Robert Rauschenberg - the first works for 30 years T book festival

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has welcomed a lot of book royalty. We hear about the new book, The Kid.

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And the fringe. The venues continue to range from someone's front room

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through to telecom mixs packing people in by the thousands. Last

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year 2.74 million people visited the fringe. Stuart Leigh has sold

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out previews at the stand. Joesy Long is more political than ever. I

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have a chat show at the Gilded Balloon. And a stripper, through to

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comedy for kids, showcasing comedians as young as 12. There is

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something for everyone. Simon Callw has put on lipstick. -- Callow has

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put on lipstick. Margaret Cho, we have not mentioned that picture of

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the tattoo, the one at the castle. People love it so much, you cannot

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get a ticket. I thought it was a bunch of soldiers mincing up and

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down with bagpipes. It is just like Glastonbury but there is short

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beard in the gift shop and you don't have to camp, not unless you

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really want to! This is the see-through upon cho

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festival. I have seen hundreds over -- poncho festival. I have seen

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hundreds of them. I only own endless waterproof and thin layers

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because of doing the show so many times. It is steamy.

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All the comedy venues would say they are up. It is a good sign.

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hope it is true. There are lots and lots of people who have been on

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main-stream TV shows and they have massive venues, so the numbers go

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up every year. I am not sure it is easy to be a new act here. You are

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appearing here on the Review Show, but you are at the book show at the

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festival? Looking at the international festival, it is

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looking towards Asia this year? Fascinating. The range of stuff on

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there is extraordinary. You get caught up with the fringe at the

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beginning. You forget there is still the book festival, still the

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international festival. Hopefully the rain will ease off.

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International Festival, what has come up this year is the Art

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Festival. There is lots to see. Masses and masses. We will review

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some tonight. Let's dive head-long into the festival, starting the

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fringe. Travelling minute strels, cameramen, there is no shortage of

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weird and sometimes wonderful settings for the experience.

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The Edinburgh Fringe has been the place to experiment. We asked our

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three guests to try out some very different theatrical experiences.

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Ranging from performances in a constructed child's bedroom to a

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performance in their own living room. The Lounge Room are happy to

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tell theiral tales. The thin air was lost. All of its passengers

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were never seen again. The two are making their Edinburgh Fringe debut

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after a sell-out tour in Australia, where they won two Adelaide Fringe

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awards already. They are armed with a guitar and props. They weave

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together Gothic stories, set everywhere from your lower intest

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tins to an unusual morgue. I opened my eyes and I noticed I was back in

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the morgue. She lies neck tot me. I am scared to touch her cold, dead

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body. I notice she is breathing. I put my hand on her bottom. It's

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warm. It's a warm bottom. It's a sexy one.

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Also embracing an experimental approach to performance is a

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journey played out in an iPad within a child's bedroom. Each

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person enters alone and the story unfolds on their hand-held screen.

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Lasting 20 minutes. It offers a child's eye view of the world in an

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unusual space. I'll sit on the bed. The viewer is encouraged to move

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around the specially constructed white room, directed by the action

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in the film. The fringe is the perfect place to

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have a piece like this. There are a lot of audience members who are

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really open to different experiences. They are not worrying

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about exactly what it would be. They want to see something

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different. Also offering something different

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from the more traditional theatre is a Belgium company, who have

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returned to the fringe this year w a piece that promised to celebrate

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us, the audience. I guess there's nothing else I can

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do. All the faces before me. I'm waiting to hear what you'll say

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about me! Turning the cameras on to the seats, they take handbags and

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ask about individuality. I want to create something which will make

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people have an opinion and make people react to that. We all look

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at each other and we adapt. What is wrong with that? It is beautiful!

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Let's take you back to the Contrabulators. Did it fall into a

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different kind of production, or do you feel you have seen this before?

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I don't know if I have seen it before in the fringe. I am

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essentially charmed by the idea these two guys will turn up and

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make a space out of theatre. They bring a carpet. A very small carpet.

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They unroll it. They kind of make a little space for themselves and all

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their props are in a case. They - I found - you have lots of footage in

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that package of me looking grumpy. That's my happy face. That is your

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"I better not give away what I think face!" They are engaging

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performers. It was a sweet show. was like travelling - kind of mis-

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firing tales. It was not their fault we had them during the day,

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with telly lighting on. I could have gone a little more horror. It

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has a strange tonal clash that you get often with Australian comedy,

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of having incredibly glory or gruesome and then really volume ger.

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They smash into each other. No, -- vulgar. They smash into each other.

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I kind of want to see the next one more than I wanted to see this one.

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Underbelly, a huge sensation in Melbourne and in Adelaide. They are

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charming. Do you agree with Natalie they are not dark enough? I could

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have gone darker. What I had problems with, like Hari I liked

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something coming to your house. When you have Fringe fatigue and

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you are in venues too hot or too cold t idea of having someone come

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to perform to you, it is like being spoilt. It had a child-like quality.

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I mean, I can take a lot of flimsy, I liked the little characters.

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had to say, the lighting, we had bright lights on them. They have a

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shadow puppet we had to imagine really. The stories take on a life

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of their own and change in the retailing. You can imagine it

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happening every day as they do it differently. The nearest is the

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village in India. The guy turns one the puppets and the back lights. It

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is a traditional form of story telling. Moving on to the product

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of bang new technology was the iPad experience of being in a little

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white room. Were you disconcerted? I don't like interactive things.

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This is the most I have spoken to other people in about a month. If I

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am honest I am finding it disturbing now. It looks

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interactive, but it isn't. For me, the fact it was in an enclosed

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space is more harrowing. Did you think the child was going to come

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through the window. When it did not happen, weirdly because I would

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have skwarked had it happened, I was disappointed. There is a moment

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you walk into this empty white room. You look at the empty white room on

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the iPad. You are in there. And you look on the iPad and two pairs of

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shoes had appeared. And the thing is that awesome thing does not come.

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It is charming, but it is never thrilling. If I am honest! They

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were all about narratives, a weaving narrative. This was about

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imagination. What did you make of the way it was filmed The music and

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cinema was gorgeous. There was some pretentious art-class cliches. I

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didn't know what was going on. The same as Natalie. There is a

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disconcerting n a lovely way, you walk in, you are holding the thing,

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you can see the door and a real door. You want more of that to run

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through it. You end up sitting on the edge of a bed thrsm is a bit n

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the film she --. There is a bit in the film she looks under the bed

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and finds something. I wish there had been more interactivity.

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performance by the six-year-old, I thought was mesmerising. She's a

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very compelling little girl, isn't she? She is the best thing about it.

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It looks great. The set that they have built for you to have this

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experience in is also great. Then The mother becomes a ginger bread

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woman. I'm not convinced it's ginger bread. The dough can't make

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that baked item. This is not Masterchef. Let's move to a

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performance group who have been here before and they ultimately

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have said right, OK, it's down to the audience, but except it's not

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because we're going to turn ourselves on you and make you do

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things. Never hand over your coat and bag to an actor when you walk

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into a show. Did you do that? Is it the whole idea is that they

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take very kindly your coat, bag, whatever you have and then what

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they do is reveal it on stage. Of course none of us were stupid

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enough. I live with an actor. I'm not an idiot. Then they train the

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camera on the audience. You get voices going "Oh, I'm so self-

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conscious." That's sweet for a while. Then it becomes nasty.

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the message? Their trouble is they've co-flaited the idea of an

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audience with the idea of a crowd. By the end of it they're flowing

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everything at the wall like the Nuremberg rallies and vi a dream.

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We know a lot of things about being in crowds and being in an audience

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is a specific thing. They started to play with that. I felt it was an

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undercooked show. It was like if they'd really focused on what they

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wanted to tell us a bit more, it could have been good. Of course,

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what they had was this scene where, well, the moment where they abuse a

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member of the audience, because everyone is savvy, you don't know

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whether it's a member of the audience or the cast. Yes and

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they're doing this thing in the wrong town. What you get is people

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going, here's the things, we as actors have realised that the

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audience, like you, are not completely passive. We can interact

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with them. Yeah you're in a mate with nearly a thousand stand-up

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comedians. Even the ones doing a free show have thought more about

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going through a fourth wall than you have, honestly. What about the

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whole idea of immersion, not you because I know you're in hives

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already, what about being involved? You like it or you don't? Generally

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I hate it. I think it's nice if it's a connection, it's nice if

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they're nice to you. I like the fact the performers are making

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contact with you. What the audience show did that was offensive was

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kind of going, you're all so passive sitting there judging us.

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It's like you came to your show. That's what you want. I don't see

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where this big ref latory thing about the bad audience. You pay

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your audience to be entertained. have a lot of time for beingents

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taind after a hard day's work. their job. When anyone welcomes the

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Nazis as a retorical point, we should be able to go home. The idea

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that the crowd goes to a nightclub with the Mexican wave at a football

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match, With fascism. If you want details on that, you can find them

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on our website. From staink theatrical experiences to the more

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recognisable setting of the art gallery and our selection of three

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big exhibition that's are very hard to miss.

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This year's Edinburgh Art Festival is the most ambitious yet, with

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major work from world renowned artists and sculpt Tors. Robert

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Rauschenberg is at Inverleith House, a posthumous exhibition of his work,

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Botanical Vaudeville focuses on work from the latter part of his

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career, from large-scale scuppure to intricate painting. Turner Prize

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winner Cragg considering's first museum show for more than a decade

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is at the Scottish modern gallery of modern art. At the City Art

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Centre, Professor of sculpture at the Royal Academy David Mach has

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taken up residence. This is his biggest solo show and perhaps his

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most important ever. It is absolutely massive, spread over

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four storeys of the City Art Centre, everything from colossal kolaudges

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to soaring sculpture, it's all inspired bit King James version of

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the Bible. What Mach has done is take biblical stories and set them

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in a modern context. I had thought about the King James Bible maybe

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ten, 12 years ago. There's the place where all the stories are,

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all the love and pest lens, the heat, famine, sex, jealousy. It's

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got everything you know. When you have people standing in front of

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judgment day, it means different things to different people but what

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do you want people to think when they're looking at this? I want you

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to look. I want you to feel. I want you to use this. I want you to use

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that. I want you to use your stomach, all the thing that's

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you've got to figure out what it is that you're looking at. You want to

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suck people in. When you move to the sculptures you have golgopha.

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needed to tease the hooks for spikes. The hairs on your body

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standing on end. It's a coat hanger. It sounds naff. But when you see it,

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it's a powerful thing. There's an insulation, which is essentially

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your studio. A kolage has a mood. It has a feeling, a message, a

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story, it has colour, size, shape. You're busy using those things. I

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mean thousands of those things together, you're weaving them

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through and trying to get some kind of collective idea of a story.

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construction of the satan's head to be burnt, tell me, how did you go

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about doing all that? The devil took about three-and-a-half, four

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months to work. It's mad work. they're going to be burned? Yeah,

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in a couple of days we will burn the devil. What you get is a 30

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second, 40 second ludicrously powerful performance, where this

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thing flares up. Stand back, if you do it inside, it would burn the

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house down. Of all the stars on this year's art festival stellar

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programme, who lives up to their illustrious billing?

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Let's start with Precious Light on the anniversary of the King James

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Bible. Do you think this was simply a vehicle for David Mach, I don't

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mean that disparagingly or is it something more epic, not in a

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religious way, but epic as the stories in the Bible are.

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certainly has captured a stale in these pieces. They're enormous

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pieces. They're busy. You can dive into them, all these tiny figures

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doing them. They are a lot of them very powerful. The one that's work

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less well for me shade into the weird aesthetic of Jehovah's

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Witness literature, where you get pandas and multiethnic people happy

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in a garden. I would split the show down the middle. The works are by

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and large fantastic. The sculpture is awful. Really, the tank traps?

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The weird horror movie Christ thing I got nothing from it. And the

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strange pop Jesus and pop devil as well. It didn't relate very well to

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the other work. It made it slightly unbalanced show for me. Natalie,

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what did you think? I quite liked the sculpture. I liked the scary

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devil. I didn't realise, I had a catalogue, but I was so wet, I

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couldn't view it. When I saw the devil's head, it's burned now. I

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thought how smart the devil is burned out. And look, lovely Jesus

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who is lovely matches. It was one of those things going, I see that

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the subtitle of this exhibition is the celebration of the King James

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Bible and I wonder if that stopped people who really like the Bible

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from really hating you, because vi to admit there were moments when I

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was going, these sculptures are properly horrifying. This is a cues

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fix... He looks like he was made out of cake. He's going to be

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burned as well at the end. crucified Jesus is, it reminds you

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that the crucifix is an instrument of torture. I'm blanking on the

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horror movie when the guy has... Hell raiser. The idea that David

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Mach moved his entire studio up here. What the audience can do when

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they go there is they can watch everybody working, cutting out

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commando comics, cutting out woman and homes, cutting all these things

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and there are stacks of moxs of things like women kneeling, frogs

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jumping that have been collected over the years. The idea that it's

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like Victoriana. I love that there's a huge exhibition, over

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five floors. A lot of them, I mean, some of them I found compelling and

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some of them I thought it's more of the same, there's so much material

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on the walls. But when you get up to a certain level and you see him

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doing it, that's wonderful. That's moving and it reminds you that this

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is a real craftsman and actually, one of the things that's nice about

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it... With assistance. Yes! Cutting out parrots all day. It's been

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built by hands, it's not photo shop. It's been layered. If these scraps

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are incredibly fine, Tony Cragg has got the completely material, this

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is massive stuff, working with a lot of assistance as well, created

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a bronze, muscular stuff, but feeling very fluid wha. Due make of

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that? It's the solidity and fluidity that's beautiful. The

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scale of it is great. It's just something that you can wonder

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around and gaze upon. It doesn't have forceful meanings. It's

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beautiful images of mofl caught. You want to touch them and you

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can't. You'll not damage a bronze to stand and stroke it. Really

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properly passive aggressive. Even clean hands can cause damage.

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though. I know it's true. I take it all back. I didn't touch anything

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and I walk round with my hands like that. The wooden ones look so

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tactile and they are just, I really loved them. They are slightly more

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than opt cull illusions I think. You walk round them and suddenly

:24:48.:24:52.

these things which look like random collections of discs on top of each

:24:52.:24:56.

other, suddenly a face appears. You walk past and it disappears. It's

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there from one side or both. There's lots of space to walk round

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things. He's a Turner Prize winner, but this show is his biggest in a

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decade. And a lot of this work has never been seen in this country.

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Did you feel that you were kind of, in the presence of something

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masterful? He's a serious modernist sculptor. He's making references to

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thradigs. These fluid movement works are nods to futurist

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sculpture and he's also making gestures towards St Ives, Barbara

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Hepworth and Garbo. He's into his Chinese scholars rocks, the natural

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form that's he's copying in some of these things. There's earlier work

:25:42.:25:45.

where, which is completely different. It's odd to see it in

:25:45.:25:50.

this show, next to the fin shalled, polished sculpture on plinths.

:25:50.:25:55.

Things are on the floor, with humble materials, raw. It's the

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phase he was in in the 70s and 80s. It's odd to show the two things up

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against each other. The third thing in the show, which I think is

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beautiful, are wonderful, delicate water colours that, you know, I

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haven't seen these water colours of his at all. And some of these

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wonderful drawings, intimate drawings with zeros and ones.

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drawings are quite strange. There's something obsessive about the

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doodles. There's metal work transforming form. You mention the

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Italian movement using cheap material. Robert Rauschenberg

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followed that tradition as well when he moved into pop art. His

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show is a late show at Botanical Vaudeville. Did you like it or did

:26:37.:26:41.

you think you were at the fag end of a career? A little bit of the

:26:41.:26:46.

latter. If you put it in the botanic gardens you already get

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three stars from me. It is gorgeous. Even though it was pouring with

:26:49.:26:53.

rain when I went, it's still beautiful. So the Rauschenberg

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there's a video down stairs on a 60 minute loop, which is really

:26:58.:27:01.

interesting. I was glad I went to that, because otherwise I'm not

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sure I would have enjoyed the exhibition as much. I think the

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found object pieces of roadsides I liked much less than the strange

:27:12.:27:18.

metal etching pieces. Beautiful fossil with the lace. Incredible

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silver, aluminium. You look at it from one side and you go this is

:27:22.:27:27.

pretty. Then you see a peacock or Egyptian king appear out of it.

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Things like idle speed no wake, is like Ian Hamilton Finlay. Those as

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found objects were wonderful. Harked to a depression era in

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America, which we are in again almost. This is my problem with it.

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This is isn't the Rauschenberg of the 50s and 60s which transformed

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American art, who made the combines out of these kind of materials.

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This is him being asked to dot same thing by wealthy collectors going

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again and again and again. They are works made in the 80s but they have

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a look of stuff that's 30 years previously. The whole thing has

:28:04.:28:10.

been faked up to look like his earlier work the -- work. The newer

:28:10.:28:15.

style, the shiny stuff, makes a vague go at saying something about

:28:15.:28:18.

luxury and the shininess of the 80s, but he's trailing in the wake of

:28:19.:28:23.

other people by that point. It was a sad show for me. If any of those

:28:23.:28:26.

have taken your fancy, find details on the website or tweet us and

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we'll let you know. Now before we come to the

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seriousness of the new muedsical from Marc Almond and Mark Ravenhill,

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something light hearted. Joining us now the YouTube hit that has set

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Fascinating Aida there with a look into the world of low-cost travel

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or not. Now to as dark as it gets. Mark Almond, the eighties synth pop

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supremo has delved into history 30 years on from his hit song

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Tainted Love, Mark Almond has swapped pop music for a song cycle,

:33:16.:33:21.

with an emotionally and musically challenged score. It tells a tale

:33:21.:33:27.

of one man's journey through plague-ridden London. Now I am

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getting into the swing of it, I find the whole piece is like a

:33:33.:33:37.

rollercoaster,. Once you start it the words and music take you from

:33:37.:33:41.

one place to another. Working a fantastic director like Stewart

:33:41.:33:46.

Laing. It was strange for me. I only worked with directors on a

:33:46.:33:49.

small scale. He has guided me through the whole piece. Made me

:33:49.:33:53.

see it in different ways. It brought things out of me that I

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never realised I could do. That is interesting. I think of Mark as a

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bigger project, playing rock concerts. I was looking to see what

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Mark could bring to the project. I see what Mark is, he's a fantastic

:34:09.:34:13.

storyteller, through song. Mark Ravenhill, better known for his

:34:13.:34:17.

plays, wrote Ten Plagues especially for Mark Almond, along with

:34:17.:34:21.

composer Conor Mitchell. balance is writing something that

:34:21.:34:25.

Mark as a performer can log into, without it being out of his range,

:34:25.:34:32.

and also to hand over a mellodic line to Mark and see what he --

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melodic line to Mark and see what he does with it. This whole piece

:34:37.:34:43.

has been emotional for me. I cried a few times when I performed it. I

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kind of felt the songs like Farewell and Seeing You, where he

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sees his dead lover in the pit and sees the bodies.

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Obviously I have feelings to mind like grieving and loss. I can bring

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so many of my own experiences, thingsvy been through through my

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life, so I have lots of experience to draw on. One week in, and

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reviews have been favourable. However, on opening night, there

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was one voice of dissent. We did get booed. I work a lot in opera.

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Booing is big in opera. It is like you feel like you have not done

:35:25.:35:31.

your job properly unless you get booed. If we wanted to please

:35:31.:35:36.

everybody we would be doing Mamma Mia!.

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You know it was a big ask, it was, I know he has done rock concerts,

:35:42.:35:50.

out on stage, on his own with a pinnist. Did he have this --

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pianist? Did he have this? One of the problems with it is his voice

:35:55.:36:00.

is not there. You feel a bit pained. He has to keep singing and keep

:36:00.:36:06.

singing. I feel conflicked about it. I admire the fact they did

:36:06.:36:10.

something deliberately divisive and different. It does feel original

:36:10.:36:13.

and it is very creative. We were talking about reading this thing on

:36:13.:36:17.

the page, which is a different experience. The text is interesting.

:36:17.:36:21.

Having it presented in such a stark way with one person's voice the

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entire way through is moments of comedy I felt were miss judged. I

:36:27.:36:34.

felt it didn't quite connect how they wanted it to. There were many

:36:34.:36:39.

different things there. It is moving about the plague. You get

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all senses of different plagues, including AIDS. There is the thing

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about survivor guilt. Did you feel he invested enough of himself in

:36:50.:36:58.

that? I did. I know an opera singer would sing better. His voice may be

:36:58.:37:05.

radleed by the end of this -- radled by the end of this run. I

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found him the most compelling. There are moments he stands on

:37:10.:37:17.

stage and the lighting falls on him, suddenly you can see 30 years ago

:37:17.:37:22.

Mark Almond. The light changes and he looks haggarded and the idea of

:37:22.:37:26.

this man becoming more and more raddled by his survival as people

:37:26.:37:34.

around him drop, I found him absolutely astonishing. It did

:37:34.:37:39.

mirror what happened during the plague, Defoe and Pepys, the ones

:37:39.:37:43.

who stayed and survived. The others fled and came back. There was a

:37:43.:37:47.

huge division. That comes out in this? Mark Ravenhill knows his 18th

:37:47.:37:57.
:37:57.:38:02.

century. He has worked with that used that plague-ridden city - he's

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made a very claust introduce phobic world. I would say it is -- class

:38:11.:38:20.

tro phobic world. He has guided Britain through AIDS

:38:20.:38:26.

until now. This is a piece about AIDS.

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Mark Almond, as this di va figure, and the way that he performs is

:38:35.:38:39.

very very important in the atmosphere of this. What do you

:38:39.:38:43.

feel about how he inhabited that stage? It is difficult when you

:38:43.:38:46.

don't have furniture. Instead of furniture what they have is music

:38:46.:38:50.

stands. Then they have this wonderful projection. How did you

:38:50.:38:54.

feel about the music stands and him having to weave around them? They

:38:54.:38:57.

needed something for him to do physically, so he can move around a

:38:57.:39:02.

bit and you have something to look at. The set is beautiful. I think

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the use of projection is very clever and elegant. It gives him

:39:08.:39:12.

someone to interact with. I am interested to know if you connected

:39:12.:39:17.

with the character or not. I didn't know who he was at all. He was a

:39:17.:39:26.

void to me. I felt he was Mark, basically. This was a piece for a

:39:26.:39:31.

star and it was a piece which worked because of this background

:39:31.:39:36.

that he brings into it. If another unknown singer had walked on to

:39:36.:39:40.

that stage and performed in the same way it would have felt

:39:40.:39:44.

extremely flat. If they were not so well known I

:39:44.:39:47.

think they would have had to perform in a better singing way. I

:39:47.:39:54.

think that was the problem. He's not hitting the notes. He's

:39:54.:40:02.

straining a lot doing that. There is an aesthetic failure in this.

:40:02.:40:05.

His imperfection makes it very human.

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That is true because his physical and vocal performance, he walks

:40:09.:40:14.

around the flights of stairs with such caution. You remember that he

:40:14.:40:22.

had a terrible motorbike accident. He was crippled and he has to --

:40:22.:40:28.

had to learn how to walk again. It is compelling to watch. The music

:40:28.:40:34.

is fantastic. And the piano player is extraordinary and wearing a kilt.

:40:34.:40:37.

Ten Plagues is playing throughout the festival. If Ten Plagues was

:40:37.:40:42.

not a bundle of laughs we should send you into the wokend on a

:40:42.:40:47.

lighter note. The most famous fringe, the comedy. Be ware some of

:40:47.:40:55.

what you see contains extremely strong language.

:40:55.:41:02.

We can rely on comedians to push the envelope, to try and shock and

:41:02.:41:07.

court controversial with provocative material. This year is

:41:07.:41:17.
:41:17.:41:19.

no exception. Torchwood actor Tom Price reveals intimate tales of his

:41:19.:41:24.

mother's alcoholism and cerebral palsy. We arrive at the chemist. He

:41:24.:41:29.

gives her medication. It is one of those bottles where you have to

:41:29.:41:34.

squeeze. She cannot do that. She only has one hand. She is shaking

:41:34.:41:44.
:41:44.:41:50.

it, going "I may be a locking ...." Ending racism in about an hour,

:41:50.:41:59.

part stand-up, part social comedy, it proves that de-- despite

:41:59.:42:08.

electing its first black President, racism is still there. There is a

:42:08.:42:18.
:42:18.:42:21.

black President. I saw a woman cry. I was like, "Wow, first of all you

:42:21.:42:29.

should never play Scrabble, because there's no U in America." Radical

:42:29.:42:33.

comedian and recording artist Margaret Cho is back in the cap

:42:33.:42:38.

follow for the first time in a decade with her show. I know that a

:42:38.:42:41.

lot of Asian people don't have a lot of bush. I have all of their

:42:41.:42:45.

bush. I carry the burden of my race!

:42:45.:42:50.

Based on the recent Grammy nominated album of the same name t

:42:50.:42:57.

by sexual American aims to shock with her treatment of sexuality,

:42:57.:43:03.

which one critic said would make Richard Prior blush. They turn

:43:03.:43:09.

around and their T-shirt says "Number one grandma." Almost a

:43:09.:43:14.

quarter of a century since she first appeared on the Fringe, Ruby

:43:14.:43:23.

Wax is back on stage, supported by singer-songwriter and close friend,

:43:23.:43:29.

Judith Owen. I said if you have a disability, use it. I said "Get out

:43:29.:43:39.
:43:39.:43:39.

of bed." Losing It is an autoby og graphal story of her mental illness.

:43:40.:43:45.

It is one in four. It is one, two, three, four. Actually that whole

:43:45.:43:51.

row is not well! Do these shows prove there are plenty of taboos to

:43:51.:43:56.

be busted through comedy? Does comedy have the shower to shock,

:43:56.:44:02.

provoke and challenge an audience? Let's begin with Ruby Wax, which is

:44:02.:44:07.

a combination of stand-up comedy and personal pain. Does that give

:44:07.:44:12.

it an added kick? It does and it doesn't. I have to be honest. I

:44:12.:44:17.

think Ruby Wax is a massively inspirational figure to my

:44:17.:44:22.

generation of comedians. It's no exaggeration to say I worshipped

:44:22.:44:26.

her as a teenager, of course. My expectations were too high for this

:44:26.:44:32.

show. I kind of assumed it would be a brutal unpicking of her nervous

:44:33.:44:37.

breakdown, her time in The Priory. Strangely it feels like she has

:44:37.:44:41.

backed off from writing that show. There are 40 minutes of

:44:41.:44:46.

observational stuff about American people may not like English people,

:44:47.:44:50.

English people might not like Scottish people. You think, OK, you

:44:50.:44:54.

are better than this. Why are you here? When it comes to her

:44:54.:44:58.

depression it is much more raw and much more painful. I am not sure

:44:58.:45:02.

the first half of the show really needs to be there. Isn't it the

:45:02.:45:07.

case to welcome the audience in you have to soften them up. Isn't that

:45:07.:45:12.

the structure of the show? There are blows. I think what she was

:45:12.:45:20.

celebrated for when she was.... She was kind of brutal.

:45:20.:45:25.

She's been busy. She's been in The Priory. I forgive her! What I was

:45:25.:45:29.

looking for was more of an attack. There is this kind of, some middle

:45:29.:45:34.

of the road stuff in there. Maybe she did back off from revealing too

:45:34.:45:43.

much about her -- herself. There are instrumental singer-songwriter

:45:43.:45:49.

stuff about sadness. Do you think Judith Owen was there

:45:49.:45:59.
:45:59.:46:01.

to have a foil for her to have I didn't think it fitted together.

:46:01.:46:04.

Judith Owen starts talking seriously about tragic events in

:46:04.:46:12.

her life. You're like, I don't this. It's weird to have suddenly

:46:12.:46:15.

gone there. That was one taboo. Let's move on to Tom Price, who

:46:15.:46:20.

talk abouts his own embarrassing story. He's referring to his mother

:46:20.:46:25.

several times as a plastic and revealing a bit about her. I think

:46:25.:46:28.

again it's a similar thing. Most of the show is very nice and you know

:46:28.:46:34.

he's a very charming man. It's nice, friendly stand-up guy you want to

:46:34.:46:40.

go for a drink with. The stuff about his mum, it was like you use

:46:40.:46:45.

the word plastic when you're little. It didn't seem he dug deeply as to

:46:45.:46:49.

whether what he was saying it true seasoned if it's what he felt about

:46:49.:46:54.

it. His mother as cerebral palsy, she's a single mother and alcoholic.

:46:54.:46:59.

I felt she was more interesting than him. That's extremely

:46:59.:47:04.

ungenerous. But for a show, I think it's incredibly charming. He's a

:47:04.:47:09.

massively likeable performer. And the clunky direction in ruby's show

:47:09.:47:13.

is not in his at all. There's so much narrative distance to make

:47:13.:47:18.

sure you don't think he's being offensive. The word plastic is only

:47:18.:47:22.

used in the context of my mother calls herself a plastic and other

:47:22.:47:30.

people are upset by it. He goes, I would never say that, you go yes I

:47:30.:47:36.

know that. He's shy ago way from taboo to bust it. Now let's move on

:47:36.:47:40.

to WpsKamau Bell. What lovely is that he opens up with a clip of

:47:40.:47:44.

himself on American television saying how much he loves Obama, but

:47:44.:47:48.

Obama will never be President. Very good to fess up on his own mistake.

:47:48.:47:52.

He's a very charming performer. He giveles us a tour of the current

:47:52.:47:55.

state of race relations in the States. You know, I'm living in the

:47:55.:48:02.

US, at the moment. A lot of that material is very familiar. I didn't

:48:02.:48:06.

have a sense how it would play to the Edinburgh audience who aren't

:48:06.:48:10.

quite engaged in the cultural wars in the same way as they are in the

:48:10.:48:13.

States. There's something exciting about him. When you get stand ups

:48:13.:48:17.

here from the US, they are bullet- proof. If the building caught fire

:48:17.:48:22.

they would have a line. It's incredibly impressive but not

:48:22.:48:26.

remotely scary. For somebody so competent, he was surprisingly

:48:26.:48:30.

nervey the night we saw him. It made me like him so much more. At

:48:30.:48:33.

one point he says smoking a fag that means something different here

:48:33.:48:38.

from in America. You know, why I know, that joke needs cards and a

:48:38.:48:44.

cake. Please don't do it. It is beneath you. What he had which

:48:44.:48:48.

helped, is he had some furniture. He had the US census and UK census

:48:48.:48:51.

and they're such a joke in themselves the way they address

:48:51.:48:55.

race. I thought it was good. It gave shape to his show. What he did

:48:55.:49:00.

say was white people have to re- examine the way they behave.

:49:00.:49:04.

think that is interesting. You write a bit of research and a bit

:49:04.:49:08.

of Powerpoint is right. He was partly nervous because there was

:49:08.:49:12.

rioting going on. He was nervous about whether his material would be

:49:12.:49:16.

more incendiary than it was. It was quite the opposite. It would have

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been great if he had gone there. We were seeing it. What we've seen is

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a lot of comedians going I'm shocking you, aren't I? Well

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actually no. They were shocking and not really. Margaret Cho. Margaret

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Cho did shock me. Margaret Cho there's nowhere Margaret Cho won't

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go. That's part of the whole thing. She wants to overturn the idea.

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Were you upset the fact she told you everywhere she's been. It's not

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that the fact that the jokes are that funny, but it's that she's

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actually saying these things. was really funny. She was the only

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one who really got the laughs out of me. I couldn't tell when I was

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laughing out of sheer shock and when I thought it was funny. That's

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great. You can't believe she's doing that and the actions. There's

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a lot of mime, yeah. She has wonderful confidence as a performer.

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It's very funny, when she does her own parents... That's wonderful.

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She takes the Michael out of her Korean parents, it's funny, but

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it's like we're laughing at her parents. I felt fine about laughing

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at her parents. They aren't, you can see them as individuals. She

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also does her grandfather as well. There's a whole interesting family

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dynamic. She has this thing that a lot of Asian women have of being,

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as children being very, very talked down to, you're ugly, you're bad,

:50:50.:50:54.

you're wrong by her mother and grandfather, seems to have been the

:50:54.:51:00.

person who saved her, saying it's fine, I'm ugly too. I felt the Cho

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familiar will were real to by the end of the show. Was that taboo

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busting or just a really fine show? A fine show, but in a way retro and

:51:10.:51:15.

therefore taboo busting. Jenny Eclair won the Perrier in 95 with

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such a show of mind numbing vulgarity. It was I long time

:51:20.:51:24.

before she was talking about, I can't even say it. It's like going

:51:24.:51:28.

back in time. Wow remember when standups weren't all desperate to

:51:28.:51:32.

be on the comedy road show and they were prepared to take a risk of

:51:32.:51:35.

upsetting everybody in the building. She was thrilling in that reguard

:51:35.:51:39.

and she mentioned Dancing With The Stars. It's not just The Review

:51:39.:51:43.

Show which has taken up residence here for a movement you'll be able

:51:43.:51:47.

to hear more of what's going on in the Culture Show Edinburgh special.

:51:47.:51:51.

Here's Sue Perkins to give us a taster of what they have coming up.

:51:51.:51:56.

On the Culture Show next week, Alastair Sooke meets Tony Cragg.

:51:56.:52:00.

Book Festival regular, Ian Rankin investigates art theft. And we look

:52:00.:52:09.

at the art of the comedy song. I'll be talking to American huem arist

:52:09.:52:15.

David Sodarist. And the theatrical take of Murakami's cult novel of

:52:15.:52:20.

the international festival. That's Thursday, 7pm on BBC Two. Thanks to

:52:20.:52:25.

my guests, Natalie Haynes, Hannah McGill and Hari Kunzru and fatly

:52:25.:52:30.

for putting herself through the trauma ever audience participation

:52:30.:52:35.

again. Full details are on the website and a few added extras.

:52:35.:52:39.

We'll tweet updates on the festival every day. Do tweet us back. We

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have thick skins. Next we're week we discuss the winners of the James

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