Episode 2 Up for Hire Live


Episode 2

Live interactive series tackling Britain's youth unemployment. The four recruits step into the shoes of shop managers, and Edith Bowman and Richard Reed share their CV secrets.


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Last night we talked about the battle facing young people looking

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for jobs. The internet exploded with Europe responses. Welcome to

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the second night of Up For Hire Live.

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Good evening. Welcome. All week we are cracking open the world of work

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to show you how to get into a job and stayed in that job. We will be

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farming out of work young people who we sent out to experience an

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entire career in fast forward. Tonight they are managing high

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street shops. And joining as in the studio art Radio 1's Edith Bowman.

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And our comedian, Andi Osho. And to love some grenades into the room is

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Katie Hopkins. And one of the founders of Innocent smoothies is

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also here to give some advice. Some of the biggest companies in the

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country will be giving people paid employment. You can find out who

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will get a job later on on the show tonight. Last night you told us you

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wanted to talk about degrees. Whether or not it was worth having

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one. Tonight we're asking, his university a waste of time? Do you

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think that graduates expect the job just because they study to history

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of art? Or do you think they're making it harder for the rest of us

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to get a job. Let us know. And here from the breakfast show on BBC

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Radio 1, none other than Tina. There was you're degree a waste of

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time? If you did not go to university, aren't you glad? Get in

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touch with your comments and we will show them throughout the show.

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You can also use Twitter or Facebook. And we have an online

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page where companies are giving advice sessions. So do get in touch.

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Lots of people took part last night so it is worth having a look. All

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this week Up For Hire Live is following for a young unemployed

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people who we fast-forwarded through an entire career in a

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matter of days. Yesterday they struggled with a minimum wage jobs

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but tonight they will be managing a high-street shop. Let us meet them.

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I am desperate to find a job. I just want to be like other people

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and have that stress. Some people found you quite abrupt. That was

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rude. I wanted to make my children proud of me. I did not go to

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university because I thought I did not need qualifications. You would

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expect someone to make an impression on the first day, but he

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has not done that. I have applied for every job, what more can I do?

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This is the end of my career! been looking for work for almost

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one year. What have I done wrong? I cannot say that I want the job when

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I cannot even put a burger into a box!

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The stars of the show this week. Chris, Sacha, Kirsty and Ben.

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Tonight we will see you run a shop. You were with us last night. What

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kind of feedback did you get? main thing about yesterday was that

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many of my friends are graduates and they felt a degree is important.

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People were saying that a degree is not so important. And people on the

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show said that we should do menial jobs. You'll have a degree, Kirsty.

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That is partly why we're going to have the debate later. Discussing

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the value of a degree. Kirsty, what was your reaction? What did your

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friends say? A couple of people said I was hot! It was fantastic.

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It is great that this kind of thing is being discussed. It has been a

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problem now for years. And hopefully this will end in a

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positive way. We will speak to you all later. Enjoying yourselves so

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far? Loving it. Well these before will be with us

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to night and every night and tonight we will see them become a

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boss for the first time. The careers of their recruits are

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about to accelerate. There will be employed by the hand-made cosmetics

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giant, Lush. They have over 700 shops in 45 countries across the

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world. My Name Is Amanda. I look after at the managers and trainee

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managers. They will be sent to work in some of Britain's busiest stores.

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The managers will be leaving their shops and you will be left to

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manage them. That is not even as step, it is a leap! Sacha it will

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be manager of the Covent Garden Store in London. Kirsty will be in

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Brighton. I hope I will be a good manager. Chris will be on the

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King's Road in Chelsea. I am eager to get in there. And Ben will be in

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Leeds. I am going to go in there and manage the whole store up!

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People will be counting on me. current managers will leave them on

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their own and will not return until the end of the day. These are the

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keys to the shop. Their challenge on the first day is to find their

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own way of managing a team. Just make sure all your customers are

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feeling amazing. And it begins immediately with a staff meeting.

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We are just about to Oban. Being a shop manager it entails taking

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control of the team. You have to be at the forefront of everything.

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we bring people into the shop, they will buy something. Motivating the

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team is important and delegating is essential. I am Chris, a yurt new

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manager. -- your new manager. is so exciting. Would you like to

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smell this? In Leeds Ben is about to face his first managerial

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decision. We need the keys to get the money out of the till. I will

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go and get the passion fruit. I thought I would go and do it

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because Steve knows all about delivery. I hope I am doing OK at

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the moment. I am surprised he did not send someone. The manager would

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not normally leave the shop. Can I go for my break earlier? There was

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no direction, no one knew what they were doing. There is not a Lotus --

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a lot of motivation. I have no idea what time it is, I need out watch.

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-- a watch. I need to lose my inhibitions a bit more. In an

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attempt to bond with his team Ben has had an idea. It breaks down the

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barriers between me and that staff. If we have at song. In Brighton,

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Kirsty sets herself a break time. Everything is a bit messy. Now is

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the time to do something about it. I was going to get back to telling

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you! It is the job of the manager and to motivate the staff and you

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should lead by example. But at the moment it is the other way around.

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Well I will come back out. That was quite annoying. I was surprised to

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be stopped when I was walking in the door. Ind Leeds... It is show

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time. Dead man walking! I am going to sink a wonderful song. I almost

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fell over! -- sing a wonderful song. # I whip my hair back and forth! #

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Public humiliation makes you feel better! Before he locks up, Paddy

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wants to have a word. There is no instance were you as the manager

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need to leave the shop to buy a piece of fruit. You are a manager.

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I think perhaps you struggled to delegate. Today perhaps the team

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were too ill, let's have an enjoyable day. You made yourself

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look silly and they loved it. But you need to be the manager.

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think... Sorry, one second. I am upset now. I thought I did

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well and put a lot of effort in. So that is pretty hard to take. I care

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a lot about this. I think that is That was fascinating, I thought,

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Ben. It is interesting when you said you care so much, why did you

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care so much? It was a good opportunity. At this point in my

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life, bat is a good step to take. This is an area I would like to do,

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something I have tried to get in tears. To prove to people I am good

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enough was a great opportunity yesterday we saw Kirsty cried when

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she was dressed as a clown. Sacha, you cried when you got negative

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feedback. Chris is the only one who is tearless! It struck me, if he

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will be a manager or word in any job, you have got to take negative

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feedback. The feedback you got was partly good, why did it make you

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cry? There was a bit more criticism there as well, and I put a lot of

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effort in that day, and the attitude I had compared to Crealy

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Adventure Park was different because I was very negative there.

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I thought I did a good job, but I didn't. That's go to Katie Hopkins,

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formerly of The Apprentice. What is your reaction? The problem that we

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face here for all of you that have cried is that our system does not

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give us hard feedback any more, we are wrapped in cotton wool at every

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institution, school does not give us hard feedback, colleges do not

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give us hard feedback, universities tell us we are great and we never

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fail at any things. So people can't deal with bad feedback? Exactly.

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None of them deal with that -- whip back feedback. I have gone through

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tons of bad criticism, I have had colleges, been pregnant and had

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people call me names at college, loads of it, but there is a

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difference between how that situation happened. People never

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say nice things any more, that is the difference.

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Just because people cried does not mean to say they are any less

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capable of doing a job, it shows they are emotional and care about

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it. When you feel passionately about it, as you obviously do, that

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is why they cried. When people said nice things to me I used to crack.

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I cried all the time! We will see that later tonight! Who wants to

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say something about the film, about Ben's performance? De gentlemen in

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the white shirt. My name is Ben. I think young people are ready to

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fail, not succeed just yet. What does that mean? We don't think, I

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want to be an astronaut, and do everything we can to follow our

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dreams when we are young. I think we just kind of give up. How does

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that relate to what happened to Ben? I have taken so much negative

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feedback, if you want that go to an art school, listen to them looking

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at your work from the heart and soul, they tear it apart, but it

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improves you and I do agree with negative feedback because it

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improves your as an artist completely. Let me just say a

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couple of points. The gentlemen on the second row. I just wanted to

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single out Ben's performance. I wanted to literally give you a

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round of applause. I thought it was really inspiring. I am a law

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student and I run a social enterprise myself, and for you to

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show that bravery and that passion, I thought that was very inspiring

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for me. You are a maverick, definitely a leader, and we need

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more people like you, to show passion. There is nothing wrong

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with passion. You are a maverick! Richard Reed from Innocent

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smoothies. Thank you for coming tonight, you have a very successful

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company. We will talk about university later, but your thoughts

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on the fare on? I thought they did very well. -- on the film. You have

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not done the job before, you don't know what it is to be a manager.

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You attacked it with gusto. On the first day, taking errors. A big

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error, leaving to buy fruit, but that is easy to say in the studio.

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If you are in the studio -- if you are in the shop, it makes sense.

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During last night's show, Up For Hire trend it nationally on Twitter

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and one topic came up more than any other, with graduates saying they

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were they forgotten unemployed. They had too little experience for

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the job they wanted but were over- qualified for entry-level jobs that

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they needed. That came up in a discussion last night as well and

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got a big reaction. They think they are stuck between a rock and a hard

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place. Who in this room is a graduate and wishes they weren't?

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Who thinks that their degree was a waste of time? The lady with her

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hand up. Basically, I think I wasted probably about four years of

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my life studying my degree. What was your degree? Broadcast media. I

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came out to be told I do not have enough experience. I am thinking I

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should have spent those four years getting experience, rather than

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being taught nothing that will help me when I get out. Anyone else

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think university was a waste of time? It I am not joking when I say

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to university I went to was a stable of manure. I did a

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multimedia core. Don't name it! course I did, we know it to be

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Mickey Mouse now, eight years on I have a number of growing businesses,

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but not one skill that I learned was from university. What was the

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degree? Multimedia and video production. Media degrees are often

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called Mickey Mouse. Why is it that your fault for picking the degree?

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I thought, the tutors would not get a job in the real world. Being a

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tutor is a job in the real world! Do real people are being paid and

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getting a wards. I can only talk personally from my course --

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getting awards. Katie Hopkins, tell us your view on this. Do you think

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people are taking pointers degrees? Absolutely, there are too many

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degrees being offered to students that should not be taking them,

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institutions that should not be allowed to offer degrees that have

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not got the credibility to be offering degrees to students that

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are actually taking students up a very bad road, misleading students

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now at �9,000 a year. What sort of degrees are a way squares to map --

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are a waste? Mickey Mouse degrees like media studies, for one, sports

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science would be a great one. Gulf Management would be another! People

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always say the obvious ones. Social sciences would be another. If he

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were a former polytechnic, blow yourself up. There are too many

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institutions we do not need. Labour said we should have 50% of young

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people at university, we cannot find jobs for them, it is a waiter

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of time. You are turning this into a political rally -- a waste of

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time. People always pick media, what about history of art? Anything

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related to academic excellence. Isn't it a hobby? It is academic.

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Let's go to the lady here. Going back to what Katz, I am in a degree

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at the moment, and I am thinking of dropping out because I do not think

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the degree will be beneficial to me and I am thinking of starting in a

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career and getting experience rather than having a degree because

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it does not seem it will get me anyway. What is your degree?

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started with journalism and have changed to art. What are people

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saying online, Tina? This is getting a lot of reaction online.

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One viewer said, I regret going to university because what I learned

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does not get applied in practice. People think it will pay off, but

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it is a life. Let's get another comment. -- it is a lie. Johnny

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disagrees, he says the life skills and experience are invaluable and

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you will become more employable if that economy recovers. Chloe, you

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are keen to come in. I have chosen to abstain from university despite

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achieving two A*s, and and a B in my A-levels, because -- because a

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degree no longer guarantees a job. You gotA* A levels, isn't it a

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waste of talent? I am hoping to go into talent Management, TV

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productions. You don't need a degree for that! The lady next to

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you in. If you want to do something like TB production, management, a

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lot of people will need the work experience and you often won't get

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that without a degree. You think she should go to university? It is

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not right for everybody but you often will not get the experience

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without a degree. I have only had one negative e-mail regarding not

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having a degree, and that e-mail differentiated me from the crowd,

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even though it was negative, so it is might US people stop that is

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interesting, people assume you will not get anywhere. A positive story,

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which is good. Richard said he went out today and handed out see thes,

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went to every shop asking for work, even if it was just a temporary

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work, and he says he has an interview on Thursday. You have to

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keep motivated. Keep telling us your stories, get in touch with us.

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You have got half an hour to get your comments on the light wall.

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People leaving university and expecting to walk in a job is a

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theme that has come up. We will continue this debate later.

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You probably know that you do not need a degree to present TV shows,

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which is just as well, because if you did, I would not be doing this

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now. And I am not the only one... Degree or no degree, a difficult

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one. Do I think people should have decreased? A degree is the best

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option. No! Always go to university. The things I learned a university I

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learned from being in the student union. So many brilliant people

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have not been to university. People with a trade are comfortable right

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now. Some people enjoy education. It is not what you know, it is who

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you know. I didn't go to university, look where I am now. If I went to

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university I would probably be the Prime Minister right now. I am in a

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dressing-room at the BBC without a toilet.

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Keith Lemon, thank you. Edith Bowman is here. You were

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dying to say more during that debate. There are so many things, I

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agree with the experience thing, it is a vicious circle of you have to

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have experience to get a job but need a job to get experience, and I

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found that. I went a weird route to university, I came out of school

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thinking a wanted to do one job, decided I did not want to, did a

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diploma at college income indications today's, which gave me

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a path going, this is what I want to do -- a diploma at college in

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communications to the East. There could not have been much that you

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learned on that which was good for your job? No, but because I did not

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know what I wanted to do, there is not an application form you right

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to become a TV or radio presenter. When I went to university, I pretty

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much stalked the local controller to give me work experience and I

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knew it was what I needed to get as well as doing let is but constantly

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sending applications and not getting anywhere, you eventually

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got some might? In some ways, that is a work ethic -- you eventually

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got somewhere. Don't take no for an answer. My mum recently sent me

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some stuff, and in it was a fault of rejection letters, so many

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different types of jobs -- a folder of rejection letters. It gave me a

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fool to keep going. And to the guy who put you on the radio and

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eventually? He said he would never put a person with an accent like

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mine on the radio! I tend to agree with him! Scottish people should

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not be on the radio! Edith Bowman, Up For Hire Live has teamed up with

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seven UK businesses to offer life placements throughout the show. We

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have had over 800 applications for just 23 opportunities. That is

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confirmation of just how tough things are today. That is a

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headline from a newspaper today. So Starbucks and Argos last night

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hired 10 of our applicants. Tonight it is the 10th of Hilton world wide.

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And here is the man in charge. -- the turn.

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That is a startling headline. It is worse in some parts of the country.

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What is it like for you guys at the moment? Are you getting a lot of

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applications for every single job? We are. But we're opening a lot of

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new hotels and we are recruiting a lot of people all around the

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country. Tell us about the standard of applications that you received.

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Generally they were good. There were some obvious mistakes such as

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lack of preparation. Where people have not completed their

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application form. Or they do not have the right spelling or grammar.

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Alex from Starbucks was here last night and spoke about people being

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over-qualified. That got a big reaction online. If someone came to

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you with the first in classics from Oxford, would you turn them down?

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Not necessarily. I recognise that that can be a problem. Why would it

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be a problem? If you are an employer you want to see the person

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passionate for the job that you have on offer. If they can't

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explain that then absolutely, we would employ them. You were

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impressed with a lot of the applications. Yes and because of

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that standard we have been able to offer six placements instead of the

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three. We are talking full-time jobs and these could turn into

0:31:010:31:11
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long-term careers. Absolutely. Now, over here is our workshop. It

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is where many audience members have been wandering in and out for

0:31:230:31:27

advice from employment experts. Tonight there are going to focus on

0:31:270:31:37

interviews. We are actually talking about interview advice. This young

0:31:370:31:44

lady has then interview next week. So we're talking about the

0:31:440:31:52

importance of the selling yourself. What kind of questions would you

0:31:520:32:02
0:32:020:32:04

anticipate for becoming an elf for Santa? I want the job because I am

0:32:040:32:09

enthusiastic and I love Christmas and dressing up. Also being

0:32:090:32:15

involved with the children and making them smile. What more do you

0:32:150:32:25
0:32:250:32:26

need? You have ticked every box! You can come to the studio this

0:32:260:32:33

week and get some advice. Now we can go back to the shop floor and

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are unemployed career fast trackers. It is now the second day of their

0:32:410:32:48

ultimate test. Can they turn things around and get the tills ringing?

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The new managers have their next challenge and it is all about the

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money. Yesterday I had criticism for my managerial skills so today

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there is more pressure on me. Today there will be more of a managerial

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role for me. Each of the stories has a different daily financial

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target. �4,600. Hopefully people will come and try the product.

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they have to do is reach it. could reach �4,000 by a 3 o'clock.

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Definitely a challenge. Chris is hoping to set the tills ringing

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0:33:460:33:47

with a group pampering session. it will be pure personal arm

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0:33:570:33:58

massager. Chris is doing a lovely job with

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the girls. He made us feel very welcome. I do not think anyone has

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ever sold that much. It is not natural!

0:34:160:34:26
0:34:260:34:28

It is Brighton Pride. At the moment the parade is going straight past

0:34:280:34:33

the shop. Lots going on outside and we are construed in the shop not

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having anything to do. It would be great to take advantage of the fact

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that there are crowds on the doorstep. The managers can check

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their takings at any time. It is OK. But unless we have a really big go

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0:35:060:35:09

and, we're not getting -- big boom. I want to take most of these things

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off and have the perfume display. It is different to yesterday, I am

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more hands on. I do not know how they are taking it, we will find

0:35:230:35:29

out at the end of the day. I feel he was so much more confident and

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0:35:390:35:46

in control. You do not want him to a serious. -- too serious. I don't

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0:35:560:35:57

like it. 1900. They're not good at all, no point even making excuses.

0:35:570:36:01

They say it is quiet but there are people everywhere. We need to get

0:36:010:36:11

people coming in to the store. The store might now is quiet and that

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is not making me happy. We want the crowds to rush in so let us go and

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do that. Today I will be pampered by these

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fabulous strong men. I think the idea to go outside was excellent.

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It got people interested. It is quite a good tactic so you can

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actually see the product being used. I enjoyed myself and I think it was

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0:36:590:37:00

good. I want to check the till. �1,429. Not quite on target.

0:37:000:37:10
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number we finished on was �3,400. It was OK, but it is really quite

0:37:210:37:29

low. There is massive room for improvement. You need to be more

0:37:290:37:37

positive. People do feel you need to be more decisive. It is a new, I

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can see it. Even though it you have not hit the today, all in all it

0:37:430:37:49

has been a better day for you today. You listened to my feedback from

0:37:490:37:54

the first day. That may have seemed harsh at the time that you learned

0:37:540:38:02

from Europe mistakes. -- but you learned from your mistakes.

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have done �5,000. You beat the takings from last year. Are you

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0:38:200:38:20

joking? I think if the kids saw me now with

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a smile on my face they would be proud of me. I am so happy. I want

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to come back from a hard day off work and say that I can't afford to

0:38:350:38:41

take you out. Without having to check how much everything costs all

0:38:410:38:46

the time. Just give them for life that they deserve. This whole

0:38:460:38:56
0:38:560:39:05

process is part of that. Sacha, everyone. Well done. Tears

0:39:050:39:13

of happiness. Yes, after the Adventure Park, it let out all that

0:39:130:39:20

emotion and now I cannot get it back in! You were talking about

0:39:200:39:24

what it means to you and you want to have a job to make your children

0:39:240:39:33

proud. The process is to learn. I did all the college staff. So now I

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have done something else and this is a different process. Finding out

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where I am and what I want to do. Chris, did you learn anything?

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learnt all the time, every day there is something new. Learnt to

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touch people up! No, I learned how to delegate and be in control.

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Kirsty, what about you? I love Lush. It is an ethical business. So I

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particularly enjoyed it. But with management, I did not feel

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comfortable delegating. And I feel with management you work your way

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0:40:310:40:32

up and I would have liked a bit more training. Ben, you are smiling.

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The feedback that I got in the first day, I took that on board and

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used it was Dr Richard Reid, what did you make of that? Well a couple

0:40:430:40:49

of things stand out. Ben, best improvement. You listened to the

0:40:490:40:55

feedback and moved on. But Sacha, I love what happened there. Because

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you were down halfway through the day and then sought, I am going to

0:40:590:41:09

change that. That is being a proper entrepreneur. Good for you. A lot

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of enthusiastic agreement behind me. Because he owns the company!

0:41:180:41:28
0:41:280:41:32

Have you asked him for commission? So well done everyone. Andi Osho,

0:41:320:41:38

what did you make of that? I think they did brilliantly. Especially

0:41:380:41:45

Ben, you took on the feedback. And I think most people who have not

0:41:450:41:50

worked in a management role, I do not know that they would do better

0:41:500:41:55

at regardless of if they were graduates or not. Well we're going

0:41:550:42:01

to open this debate out a little bit. And have a discussion about

0:42:010:42:10

what would make a good boss. Who would like to contribute? My name

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is Ricky. I would like to comment on the managerial skills of Sacha.

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I think she was good. A lot of managers would say, it is not going

0:42:220:42:29

well, you do something while I sit here. She gave that job to herself

0:42:290:42:34

which proved to her team that she is willing to do the jobs that she

0:42:340:42:44
0:42:440:42:44

expects them to do. And also she... Obviously she has got children and

0:42:440:42:50

I think she is doing it for a bigger purpose. I think that pushed

0:42:500:42:57

her a little bit more. A survey came out recently saying that 7

0:42:570:43:01

million people have walked out of a job because they do not like their

0:43:010:43:10

boss. Has anyone here dam at? done that? I used to work in a

0:43:100:43:19

five-star hotel in central London. And it was a horrible atmosphere.

0:43:190:43:24

Every time I go into a restaurant nowadays I appreciate them. It was

0:43:240:43:30

so aggressive. Did you not learn a lot? I did and did did strengthen

0:43:300:43:36

me. But the way they treat people. I understand that they have to

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deliver thousands of meals. And now I have progressed in my career and

0:43:440:43:51

I employee 100 people. I say you have to take your initial steps.

0:43:510:44:01
0:44:010:44:02

What you start off as in your People are talking about young

0:44:020:44:07

people being good managers. Dawn was a manager at 21, she says she

0:44:070:44:13

did as good a job as older members of staff. Scott had to oversee

0:44:130:44:17

about 50 older ladies, he said it was hard work and he had to change

0:44:170:44:20

the way he acted so he did not attend them. They were worlds apart,

0:44:200:44:26

and he left. My autocue is not in the right

0:44:260:44:30

place, but someone will tell me what we are going to and it will

0:44:300:44:37

happen! That is it. We like to take you behind the scenes! This week,

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Up For Hire has teamed up with seven big employers to offer life

0:44:410:44:47

changing paid jobs to people out of work. Tonight, Hilton Worldwide's

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10. They interviewed 16 of the 141 people who applied for their jobs

0:44:540:44:58

as few weeks ago. If you have an interview coming up, get your note

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pad and pencil at the ready. We are looking for a combination of

0:45:030:45:07

things today, somebody with passion full-service, creativity, a good

0:45:070:45:12

team player, and somebody with personality. You send out a CV and

0:45:130:45:17

very rarely get a reply. I have waited for this opportunity.

0:45:170:45:21

atmosphere is quite tense. I have been at home for three months

0:45:220:45:28

looking for work, I am dying for a job. What is your worst quality?

0:45:280:45:37

worst quality... Everyone says they don't have one, it is hard to

0:45:370:45:42

choose. You can give me an example of when you have worked for a

0:45:420:45:48

difficult person. Well... At a lot of the people that I served late at

0:45:480:45:54

night had a lot of alcohol in their system. He dropped a full tray of

0:45:540:46:01

drinks on a custom. I would analyse the situation. As well as on a

0:46:010:46:06

customer's white's dress. He pushed an old woman over. I would always

0:46:060:46:11

go to a supervisor. When someone is angry like that, let them get it

0:46:110:46:15

off their chest. Don't let it get out of hand. And I got some

0:46:150:46:21

flowers! Have you had any major problems way you have had to come

0:46:210:46:30

up with a solution? A solution? am an organisation freak! It is

0:46:300:46:33

important in an office environment to help other people out. I have

0:46:330:46:38

lists all around my room. People should be trained. People stand

0:46:380:46:43

there and do nothing. You can't be a leader and say, you have to deal

0:46:430:46:48

with that, it is your problem. are a role model. Having no GCSEs

0:46:480:46:53

has affected me. I feel like when they ask me, do I tell them, this

0:46:530:47:00

is why I left school, or do I say it was a personal reason. I left

0:47:000:47:03

school a year early, some girls did not like me and I started getting

0:47:030:47:08

panic attacks. I went back because I was not going to let them ruin

0:47:090:47:14

Mike school time. It is the first proper interview I have done, so if

0:47:140:47:18

I get it I will be very pleased. Fingers crossed, it will be a long

0:47:180:47:28
0:47:280:47:33

wait. My feet are really hurting! And here with us are a lot of the

0:47:330:47:39

guys who applied and we saw being interviewed there. That was an

0:47:390:47:44

interesting point, that you made, it scared of revealing personal

0:47:440:47:49

information but you decided to do it? A lot of people do not have

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GCSEs when they leave school so I wanted to put it out that you can

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still go for a job and try your hardest, and Hilton Worldwide did

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not mind. Have you done interviews before and not revealed it? I have

0:48:020:48:08

never revealed it. You don't regret it? It is showing a human side as

0:48:080:48:13

well that may be an interviewer will respond to it. Charlotte, you

0:48:130:48:18

interviewed for the job. How long had he been out of work? It I

0:48:180:48:22

graduated in July, so I have been searching since then. I studied

0:48:220:48:28

French and Spanish so I have it's - - I it had looked in other

0:48:280:48:35

countries as well. But to no avail. What would the job mean to you?

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would be amazing, incredible. I have been searching for a long time,

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just hanging about the house, working in a pub, which is great

0:48:440:48:51

for now, but you need something! career. It would be amazing.

0:48:510:48:54

long have you been out of workers macro about the same, I graduated

0:48:540:49:01

in July. Why do you want this job? It is something that has great

0:49:010:49:05

prospects for the long term. Sitting at home doing nothing, do

0:49:050:49:09

you find it hard to deal with? There are days when it is difficult

0:49:090:49:12

to motivate yourself to apply for jobs and things, but on the whole,

0:49:120:49:17

it is a case of trying to stay positive. Danielle, how long have

0:49:170:49:22

you been out of work? I finished university in June. Why would you

0:49:220:49:28

like the job? It would be a new experience, I have been sat at home

0:49:280:49:31

for four months, it has been depressing, and I have been

0:49:310:49:36

applying for jobs every day, which is a job in itself. Do a lot of

0:49:360:49:42

people not respond? You sale at an application which will take all day,

0:49:420:49:51

and you do not hear from the job -- you will fill out an application.

0:49:510:49:55

We met Rob from Hilton Worldwide earlier, you had three placements

0:49:550:49:59

initially, a three-month full-time job. He boosted at 26 because you

0:49:590:50:06

were impressed with the applications. -- you boosted that-6.

0:50:060:50:11

You guys know who got the job, but I don't know, so tell us who got

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the jobs. I am pleased to welcome our 6 nitty members, or near,

0:50:190:50:24

Danielle, Jenna, Danielle, Charlotte and Rory.

0:50:240:50:34
0:50:340:50:42

Welburn! You explained the divisions in the roles, they are

0:50:430:50:47

non graduate positions and some are graduate positions. You have a

0:50:470:50:51

degree and went for the non- graduate job? That does not trouble

0:50:510:50:57

you? No, I am keen to work, why shouldn't I? Because I have a

0:50:570:51:02

degree does not mean I cannot apply for a non-graduate role. Looking at

0:51:020:51:08

the Feedback last night, there are some people who do not have degrees

0:51:080:51:12

who get annoyed when people with degrees go for non-graduate jobs.

0:51:120:51:17

Does anyone get annoyed by that? Can you sympathise with that?

0:51:170:51:22

the end of the day, at any job that is going and you are interested in,

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I would love the opportunity to work for Hilton, and I have been

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given it. I saw the chance, and even though it is non-graduate, it

0:51:300:51:35

does not mean I cannot apply, so I went for it. What does this mean to

0:51:350:51:41

you? It means the world. As Danielle said, with a degree, I

0:51:410:51:44

don't think it should be an employer's distinction between

0:51:440:51:49

offering a job and not offering a job. I have got a degree as well,

0:51:490:51:54

but I have experience so I thought I would go for it.

0:51:540:52:02

Good luck in your new career, everyone.

0:52:020:52:07

Do you mind if I throw you out of your seat temporarily? I will not

0:52:070:52:15

literally throw you! Patrick, you are one of the people who was

0:52:150:52:20

interviewed and did not get the job. Are you OK about that? Yes, I'm OK

0:52:200:52:24

about that. Was it worth going to the interview? Did you learn

0:52:240:52:33

anything? I really meant different things from the inner city. It is

0:52:340:52:42

about the process of the interview. In human resources, process is the

0:52:420:52:48

key thing, that is the individual stop commiserations and good luck

0:52:480:52:58
0:52:580:52:58

out there. -- and that is the interview.

0:52:580:53:03

You can have your seat backs him, it is comfortable! Congratulations

0:53:030:53:10

to everyone, and to those who did not make it, keep going and good

0:53:100:53:14

luck, every interview is good practice. If you need advice on

0:53:140:53:18

getting the interview and then the job, visit our website, where we

0:53:180:53:24

have films explaining it all there. You can also see what happened to

0:53:240:53:30

our fantastic four at the end of their time as shop managers, we

0:53:300:53:34

have run out of time to show it now. They did brilliantly, it was a

0:53:340:53:40

triumph for Kirsty, the films will be online. Thursday, the experience

0:53:400:53:50

was positive for you, what did you learn? -- Kirsty. It shot me up the

0:53:500:53:54

ladder faster than I expected, so I learned things I did not anticipate

0:53:540:53:58

having to do for a number of years, said that was excellent. I am sorry

0:53:580:54:04

we cannot show it, but it is on the Up For Hire website. Let's get a

0:54:040:54:08

comment from the guests. Edith Bowman, anything you would like to

0:54:080:54:17

reflect on? That whole thing of, you see it in the films, positions

0:54:170:54:22

they are out of their depth, but if you motivate yourself and show

0:54:220:54:27

people you are up for the challenge, that can help. Richard Reid, who

0:54:270:54:34

would you hire out of these four? They all have high potential. The

0:54:340:54:40

thing I have been thinking about, I am a big believer in university,

0:54:400:54:43

but you do not have to go to university to start your own

0:54:430:54:47

business, so if you cannot get a job, consider making your own one.

0:54:480:54:55

Thank you, Edith, rigid and Andi. We are almost done. Tomorrow, the

0:54:550:55:00

recruits will be flying solo, negotiating deals. This is a good

0:55:000:55:07

little task! For a high and wedding planner. Here is a preview.

0:55:070:55:12

It is like something you would see in a fell. I would say no to use.

0:55:120:55:18

am not sure where I am at the moment. I am not a negotiate it.

0:55:180:55:25

can get up to 25%. Do you know anyone with a big boat? I have not

0:55:250:55:32

got anything ready. I have not really done any research. Very nice.

0:55:320:55:41

I am not sure whether this one is five stars.

0:55:410:55:48

It looks good. Tomorrow we have Sarah Willingham and Danielle

0:55:480:55:52

Harold coming into the studio and we will be finding more people work

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right here, this time from Virgin Media and Scottish Power. Keep

0:55:570:56:01

sending us your stories and comments, and let us know if you

0:56:010:56:06

want to be part of the audience tomorrow. Tomorrow morning, joined

0:56:060:56:09

Richard Bacon and Tina Daheley continue their mission to tackle the current crisis in the job market for young people.

Tonight: does business take young people seriously and can you make a good boss under the age of 25? The four recruits on a career fast track step into the shoes of shop managers and Radio One DJ Edith Bowman and entrepreneur Richard Reed share their CV secrets.


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