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I'm above Strangford Lough in County Down, Northern Ireland. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
It's a peaceful landscape, with fertile hills rolling down to a great sea lough. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:12 | |
But 400 years ago, this Catholic land was suddenly colonised. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
Back in the 1600s, this was a land which attracted | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
adventurers who came from Scotland and England, to enjoy a better life. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
To the native Irish these Protestant colonists were invaders | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
intent on stealing their land. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
They arrived in droves. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
50,000 in Ulster by the 1620s | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
and the Troubles of today have their roots in this plantation period. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
It took an enterprising map maker to come and map the estate here and Thomas Raven was certainly that. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:57 | |
Raven's maps are beautiful and astonishingly detailed, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
accurate pictures they give of this troubled land. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
For the colonists, Ireland was a country up for grabs that made | 0:01:08 | 0:01:13 | |
map making difficult and not just because the Irish were hostile. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
There is a secret story behind these maps. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
The story about rival landowners more concerned with their | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Protestant neighbours than with the Catholics they dispossessed. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Thomas Raven's Clandeboye maps were designed to help James Hamilton manage his new estate in Ulster. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:06 | |
A set of 75 sheets, Clandeboye covered 64,000 acres. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:13 | |
Never before had the layout and boundaries, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
the land farmed by tenants, even the possibilities for development | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
be mapped in such precise details. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
This was a picture of the new settled world. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
At the heart of the new estate was this building, Killyleagh Castle, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
it's instantly recognisable from Raven's drawing. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
What a spectacular place. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
This was the mansion that Hamilton took over from the great Catholic chieftain, Conn O'Neill. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
In 1605 Hamilton was the beneficiary of James I's policy of planting | 0:02:46 | 0:02:52 | |
new Protestant landowners on Irish Catholic lands. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
James Hamilton was the first Viscount of Clandeboye and he was a great landowner himself. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
Hamilton came originally from Ayrshire in Scotland and he was one of James the I's spies. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
He looks the part, doesn't he? The King's reward for this skulduggery, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
a huge slice of the north of Ireland. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
The Ulster Plantation, as these new estates were called, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
had started, not very successfully, in Elizabeth I's reign. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
But it was in the early 1600s that it really took off. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:35 | |
Thomas Raven was born around 1574. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
He was probably English but he made his career in Ulster. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
These maps were begun in 1625, the year James I died. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:57 | |
Were the two events perhaps connected? | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
For 20 years Hamilton had been arguing with his Protestant neighbour Hugh Montgomery | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
about their shared boundaries. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
In 1623, an enquiry ordered by King James I had failed to resolve the dispute, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
so two years later when James died, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Hamilton would have been extremely worried that the incoming King Charles I would also intervene. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
Possibly even take Montgomery's side. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Hamilton needed Raven's maps to stake his claim. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
Hamilton and Montgomery were typical of the new ambitious colonists | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
struggling to establish large estates in Ireland. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
But Hamilton had an advantage. In Raven he had found one of the country's experienced surveyors. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:47 | |
This might look a terrible mess, but in actual fact, all these maps make | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
complete geographical sense, they all fit together. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Despite the fact that some of them, like this one here, are upside down with the south at the top. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
Raven has framed each map to describe a particular parcel of land. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
He never meant all these maps to be fitted together. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
So to make sense of it myself I've transferred the location | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
of all Raven's maps onto modern maps, so I can see what's what. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
So we've got the south side of Hamilton's estate here running up the west side of Strangford Lough. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
The rest of Hamilton's estate ran up here through Dundonald, Comber just here, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:28 | |
and along the south side of Belfast Lough into Belfast. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Fascinating thing is the way that Hamilton's land | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
is surrounded on all sides by those of other landowners, in particular, Montgomery. Look at this. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:42 | |
This is Montgomery's land here and here, with Hamilton's land here. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
And the big question is, did Raven get those borders right? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
Time to start my journey. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
What I'm hoping to do is to trace Hamilton's estate | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
from its southernmost tip all the way north to Belfast. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
I will be using Raven's 400-year-old maps. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
So finding old boundaries like 17th-century woods and rivers will be no walk in the park. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:24 | |
Raven shows much of Hamilton's estate bordering Strangford Lough | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
which Raven gives the old Irish name of Lough Cone. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
At the southern end is Gibbs Island. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
What really strikes me, walking around | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
the fields and woods of Northern Ireland is how easy it is for me. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
400 years ago none of this land was drained. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
It would have been thick woods, bogs everywhere. No proper roads. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
You would have been on foot. Probably used a horse now and again. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
It would have been very hard work. You must have been fit. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Raven would have mapped this island shortly after the death of James I. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
During his reign, James's Plantation policy had provided | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
Raven with a lot of work, and Raven hoped that the new King Charles I would make him King's own measurer. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:17 | |
But Charles turned him down and that's the reason why Raven | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
took on a lot of private work and the Clandeboye Estate. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
From here Raven only had 100 square miles to go. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:30 | |
Piece of cake really. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
If you look at Raven's map of Lough Cone | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
you can't help noticing the care he put into the channels and islands | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
and most intriguingly Ringhaddy. Why did Raven think it was so significant? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:53 | |
The Protestant settlers like Hamilton and Montgomery didn't feel too secure in their adopted homeland | 0:07:56 | 0:08:03 | |
so they built themselves new castles and towers and enlarged old ones. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
All to keep themselves safe. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
For Raven the most impressive was at Ringhaddy. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
The present owner of Ringhaddy is Sir Dennis Faulkner. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Dennis, we are just off your house and right beside it is the castle showing Raven's map. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
-When was the castle built? -Around 1450, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
as a single-storey building. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
It was raised up to the height it now is, which is four storeys, I suppose. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Three in about 1602. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
So it would have been quite impressive in those days. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
Yes, it was a tower house, I think is how it was referred to. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
It did have something like 30 soldiers based there, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
Scottish and English soldiers up to 1780. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
How important was Ringhaddy in the 1600s? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
Pretty important because the west side only has Strangford | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
at the entrance as a town, a very old town, with Customs House and so on then Killyleagh | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
about four or five miles north of that. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
So this is one of the three most important places on Strangford Lough? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
-Well, certainly on the west side. -So any tenant renting this island | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
from Hamilton would have known that not only had he a castle but also a good mooring as well. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
Safe anchorage and a place where you could load and discharge ships in any weather. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
Ringhaddy was a crucial trading post. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
Hamilton would have expected Raven to map it with care. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
So was the mapping of Strangford Lough an exception | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
or did Raven take equal care with the whole estate? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
On a page like this you would see the essence of what Raven was trying to achieve for Hamilton. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
It's just another page in a book | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
but it's a particularly beautiful and detailed one. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
There are footbridges marked on it | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
and even individual gateposts. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Gateways through fields, two circles connected by a thin line. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:24 | |
It's a map which describes the economical potential of this part of the estate. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
For example, there is a smith's forge here, there is the harbour down here, there is a small herd | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
of very beautiful deer marked here surrounded by the perimeter of the park. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
And of course deer, in those days, had huge economic value | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
but so did rabbits and that's because a rabbit warren | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
had economic value, both as a source of fur and of food. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
Here they are, gathered by the seashore, six of them, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
by a label saying Coneyburrow, and the size just over five acres, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
The rabbit warren beside the bay. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Now this map tells every tenant where their plot of land is, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
for example there is a road here, so a tenant called Robert Hogg | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
will know that his plot of land lies on the left hand side of the road. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
His neighbour is John Padden, below there we've got... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
someone called Duncan Read, John Ross, Alexander Stuart, a lot of Scottish names. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
They can come to this map and find out exactly where their parcel of land is. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
For Hamilton, he could look at this map, find out where his tenants were | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
and how much they should be paying for the land they are renting. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
This is a set of money-making maps. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
What strikes you looking through these maps is how few signs of Catholic habitation there are. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:46 | |
Perhaps not surprising, when you consider that in the 1600s | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
land owned by Catholics in Ireland declined from over 80% to just 14%. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:57 | |
But the situation here on Hamilton's estate was slightly different. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:03 | |
There are very few Irish settlements on these maps, but not because they had all been driven away, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:08 | |
it's because this was a very under-populated part of Ireland in the first place. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
On this particular map there are two groups of three Irish houses | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
that appear to have a thatched roof on them and they look very remote on the shores of Lough Clay. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:24 | |
It's a very beautiful map and one that's entirely about boundaries. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
Indeed, defining boundaries was absolutely key. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
It was the absence of mapped boundaries that had led to | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
the costly dispute between Hamilton and his neighbour Montgomery. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
Tomorrow, I am going to find out how Raven tackled Hamilton's land | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
to the west of the Lough, in particular, this area, Balle McCossan, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
where Hamilton's land is hemmed in on three sides by Montgomery's. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
With so much at stake, how could Raven fix the boundaries so that they were beyond dispute? | 0:12:54 | 0:13:00 | |
Well, I have married up the boundary on Raven's map with | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
a modern Ordnance Survey map and the two fit together amazingly well. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
I am standing at Lusky Bridge, here on the modern Ordnance Survey map, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:22 | |
and I can see very clearly how this tip of the arrowhead river shape | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
on Raven's map is this arrowhead shape on the modern Ordnance Survey. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
So if I follow the river in this direction south-west, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
and just here it turns up and halfway up this stretch here | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
is another bridge, nowadays called Florida Bridge. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So if I can follow Raven's river from Lusky Bridge | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
down here to Florida Bridge, I will be right on the boundary | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
between Montgomery's land and Hamilton's land. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
Big question - did Raven actually map it accurately? | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
The only one way to find out is to follow it. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
Well, the banks are pretty overgrown so it's going to be on with the waders. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
By 1625, these two powerful men had reached a pitch of mutual hatred. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:11 | |
Montgomery was undoubtedly the grander figure. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
He had been a landowner before coming to Ireland. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
But Hamilton had the King's ear. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
Montgomery felt Hamilton had acquired his estate fraudulently | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
by telling the King that Montgomery's holding was just too much for one man. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
To make it worse for Montgomery, Hamilton had managed to get the better land. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
Florida Bridge, right where it should be. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Now, the line of the River Blackwater carries on in a north-westerly direction | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
but that's not what Raven's boundary does. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
That turns another corner and heads south-west, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
yet Raven suggests it's still following a stretch of water. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
I've got to get up to that corner now to see what the river does there. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Well, I've reached the bend in the boundary between the two estates. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
The boundary comes up the Blackwater here then turns south up this tiny stream. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:23 | |
Everything on that side belonged to Montgomery, everything on that side belonged to Hamilton. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
What amazes me is that such insignificant | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
geographical features can be used to mark such an important boundary. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
Off north now to the front line. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
Cumber, a town founded by Montgomery, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
and it was there that an interesting twist in the story occurred. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
Raven's maps seemed to show a new development to Cumber | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
on the eastern side of the river and that was Hamilton's land. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Well, I'm pretty sure I'm in the right place. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Old Cumber's back that way and new Cumber is just through these trees. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:15 | |
Except that it's gone, vanished. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Something very odd here. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
Where are all the houses? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Raven marks 20 houses clustered around two streets meeting in a T-junction just here. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:38 | |
But there's not a wall to be seen, not even a bump in the ground. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
There's nothing but level fields. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
If the address you're after disappears the first people to contact are the locals. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
So I fixed a meeting with Cumber historian Glen Ball to see if he knows where the village has gone. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:56 | |
I was pretty shocked when I came into this field and found absolutely no houses at all. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
I was too when I first started to study the area and the fact I couldn't find anything, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
no tangible evidence at all, led me to believe that there may not even have been a village here. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
And another thing is that a lot of the maps that I have been looking through over, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
you know, over that space of time since 1625, they don't show any sign of a village settlement at all. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:22 | |
-So Raven was the only person to map this town? -It seems so, yes. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
James Hamilton may have asked him to do this, because Hamilton wanted a bit more fame for himself | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
and he wanted to build a village which was opposed to the old town of Cumber which is just over the river. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:38 | |
That farmhouse is called New Cumber House. Could that be a remnant of the village? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:43 | |
Well, I think it's almost certainly named after the village, the proposed village of New Cumber. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:49 | |
It may have been named that simply because of the history of the old Raven map. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
Is it possible that New Cumber was actually built but then disappeared shortly afterwards? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
I suppose anything could be possible but to me it would be doubtful | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
that such a large establishment would just disappear | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
completely off the face of the Earth. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
Has anyone conducted a survey to find out whether a building is just below the surface of the field? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
No, certainly not that I know of and it would be a wonderful idea if somebody did. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
It would sort the thing out once and for all. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
For a relatively small sum it's possible to do | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
what's called a geophysical survey of subterranean evidence. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
That's what archaeologists do all the time. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
If there are any structures down there, Claire Stevens and Fiona Robertson will find them. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:44 | |
James Hamilton could not, of course, have run the Clandeboye Estate by himself. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Like other colonists he brought over Protestant friends | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
and family from the mainland and rented them plots of land to farm. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
And they needed new villages to live in. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
So could New Cumber have been Hamilton's way | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
of saying to Montgomery, "I'm here to stay and this is my new village right on your doorstep"? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:13 | |
Claire and Fiona have a full day's work ahead of them | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
so while they are busy I'm going to check out a bit more of Raven's map. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
As well as sorting out Hamilton's boundaries with Montgomery's estate | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Raven had to map the individual parcels of land belonging to Hamilton's tenants. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
So what are the features Raven used? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Up here in Ballywallon | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
is the boundary between Ballywallon just here | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
and the neighbouring parcel of land, Ballyallegan, here. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
And the boundary seems to be fixed on a bend in the river just here. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
What looks like a green volcano here and a long thin lough just here. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:01 | |
The only trouble is none of those three features seem to be marked on the modern Ordnance Survey map. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:08 | |
With the village gone missing and no sign on the map of the lough or the green thing | 0:20:09 | 0:20:15 | |
I'm beginning to wonder how much of the map may have disappeared. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
What I am hoping is that the bend in the river | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
will give me a bearing on the green volcano | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and perhaps from there I can locate the lough. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
Well, the bend in the river's just over there. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Now according to Raven this mysterious green volcano is due south of here. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:38 | |
Up there. This is an old map suddenly come alive. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
What this might be up on the hilltop ahead | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
is a rath - | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
that's an Irish homestead. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
And if it is a rath, there ought to be a ditch in the steep bank. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:10 | |
Oh, oh! | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Well, I've reached to top of the hill. What is this great overgrown lump? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
Could it be a rath? I'm going to creep inside and have a look. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
Well, there very steep bank here dropping down. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
A very steep bank! | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Wow. It's a good... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
10 or 12 feet high | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
and it's made of rocks. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Look, this is man made, it's definitely a rath. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
This is what Raven marked on his map, the green volcano revealed. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
Extraordinary. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
Here's Raven using a 2,000-year-old man-made landmark to fix his boundary. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
And he probably didn't know it was one of the earliest settlements in Ireland. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
Now, what about that lough? | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
Going from the river and the rath, it's so close that I should be able to see it | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
but I can't. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
This is the sort of thing that requires local help. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Will Armstrong's family have been farming this land for three generations. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
If anyone knows if there is a lough hereabouts, he should. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
Will, have you got a lake on your land or anything like it? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
No, there's no lakes or anything, but we have a bog, so we have. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
But it's got water. How long has that water been there? | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
That water there only appeared when we were trying to get across to | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
those fields over there with a path for the cows and we put landfill in | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
and we thought we were just going to just have vegetation and maybe a couple of feet of water. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
We pushed it in and pushed it in and worked away steady for about a week and then we went away one lunchtime | 0:22:55 | 0:23:03 | |
and when we came back out after lunchtime, gone, nothing. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Just fell through the vegetation? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Hm-mm, it fell through the surface and totally disappeared out of sight. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
How much soil was that? | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
We would reckon maybe 1,000, 1,500 ton of soil. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
1,500 tons of soil disappeared in one lunch break?! | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
One lunch break, just out of sight. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
How big is the bog? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
It goes to past thon tree, the tallest oak tree you see on the far side, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
and right back to... You see all those small houses on that side there? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
Well, what's that, that's about 700 yards? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
Roughly something around that direction, it would be, yeah. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
Can we find out how deep it is? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
We could push down through and see. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
-Shall we have a go at it? -No problem. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
OK, if you give me that. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
There's one bit, where is the...? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Yup, the bit with the twirly end, yup. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
This water absolutely stinks. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
Whoa ho! There you go, here's the other one. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Is it still going down? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Oh, yes, we're going now. Ooh. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
What, these are all about three feet long, aren't they? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
-Yup, they are indeed. -There's only two more sections to go, Will. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
I've only got one more bit left after this. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Well, we'll see how it goes. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
What happens if you fall in one of these? | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
I don't want to try and find out. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
It's still going. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
How amazing! | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
Well, if this one goes down, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
this is the best part of 20 feet, isn't it? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
21 feet down to the handle. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
OK, let's see where it goes. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
I do not believe it. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
-21 feet. -It's still going. Have you hit the bottom? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
No, still going. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
So if there is 21 feet right here on the edge, that means it really was a big body of water once. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:06 | |
-Definitely so, yes. -Well, it's the right length and the right width. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
I think you've found Raven's lost lough. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Well, that's news to me. We never had a lough, we always had a bog. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
I never cease to be amazed by the way landscapes carry their histories. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
400 years might seem a very long time | 0:25:25 | 0:25:30 | |
but all these features that Raven marked on his map are still here to be found. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
So, I know what happened to the vanishing lough. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
I wonder how they are getting on with that vanished village. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Have you found anything? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-We certainly have. We found the missing village. -That's fantastic! | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
Yep, let me just orientate you. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
Along here is the modern road and this would be the bridge here. | 0:25:54 | 0:26:00 | |
This is the stream | 0:26:00 | 0:26:01 | |
and this square enclosure here which is about 15 metres square | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
on the correct alignment that matches the map, that's an individual habitation plot. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
There would have been a house within that. We've no evidence of the house | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
and we don't know what the houses were made of. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
If they were made of wood they would leave no signal, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
so it's just someone who is just marking out the plots of land and maybe digging a ditch | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
and then material has been put into that ditch which is what is producing the response. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
What is interesting, is this L-shaped thing which you can see here, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
possibly corresponds to this, two bowed plots here | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
and that means that this is the side street. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
It's just a huge relief to know that Raven's map is vindicated. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
This wasn't an invented or a planned town at all. It actually existed. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
-Yeah. -That's very exciting. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-And you're the first person to see it. -I'm very honoured too. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
It's terrific to know that I'm the first Cumber man to know that there was a village of New Cumber here. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
I can't believe it, honestly! | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Well, that's a Mapman first - | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
rediscovering a village from a map. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
The most likely explanation for New Cumber's disappearance is that like | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
other fledgling communities in Ulster, it ceased to be economically viable and died. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:24 | |
Last leg now and I am passing through present day Dundonel, shown by Raven as a picturesque village. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:34 | |
He could have little realised that 400 years on | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
the Protestant presence here would be still politically charged. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
And this is virtually journey's end. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
I am approaching Belfast. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Back in 1625, this was the northern edge of Hamilton's estate. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
Today it's the vast Harland and Wolff Shipyard where the Titanic was built. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:08 | |
No other piece of land that Raven mapped is quite so unrecognisable. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Thomas Raven's maps of the Clandeboye Estate are maps of occupation. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
They appear to be just a record of the estates, fields, rivers and boundaries. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
But they wouldn't look as they do if it hadn't been for aggressive colonisation. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
Like many of the colonists Raven was a courageous opportunist. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
The estate mapping in Ireland was to make him his fortunes. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
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