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What does it take to be a scientific pioneer?

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To reframe and popularise evolutionary theory?

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To reveal a new material and win science's most coveted prize?

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Or discover one of palaeontology's elusive missing links?

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Is the key to brilliance talent, ego or just plain good luck?

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What makes a beautiful scientific mind?

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Professor Andre Geim hit the headlines in 2010 with graphene,

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a groundbreaking new material.

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The discovery of graphene is one of those wonderful,

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quite rare occasions when you do something very simple,

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almost playful, and yet make a profound discovery.

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It's a discovery that won Geim the highest honour in physics

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and made him a scientific superstar.

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The Nobel Prize is THE biggest thing you could get as a scientist.

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It's like having ten Oscars.

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But Andre Geim's path to the top has been anything but orthodox.

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A Russian emigre, he's a scientific entrepreneur

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who's had to constantly reinvent himself.

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His originality, his creativity, is extremely important.

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His experiments have led him to bizarre discoveries -

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from levitating frogs to a tape that sticks to surfaces

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like a gecko's foot.

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Watch how it goes in.

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Playfulness has been central to the way he's challenged the orthodoxy.

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Andre exemplifies all that is not logical, dull and boring.

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With a little bit more experience, you can drink liquid nitrogen.

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'Andre is different.

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'He is a sort of entertainer and a showman.'

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He likes this. He enjoys these kind of things.

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Loves to provoke people,

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loves to poke their finger in them and look whether he can stir them up.

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Annoying your colleagues is one of the pleasures I will never give up.

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He doesn't suffer fools gladly.

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I should imagine that if you don't shape up in Andre's lab,

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you probably get the boot.

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How did developing his unique approach to science

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enable Andre Geim to work the system to his advantage

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AND make the discovery of a lifetime?

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Andre Geim's life's work has been to gain a better understanding

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of the materials that make up the world around us.

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Ultimately, it's related to the question, what is life?

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How life is organised, how we function, how our brain functions.

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The study of materials

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is part of a discipline known as condensed matter physics.

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We know that trees, forest, everything consists of atoms

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and molecules, but understanding how individual atoms

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and molecules behave, doesn't help you to understand

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how this pine cone grows.

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That's where condensed matter physics comes into play.

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Condensed matter physics is broken up into many areas.

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Just one subject can be a scientist's life's work.

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But Andre has made switching fields a feature of his career.

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One thing that you find in science is that many people

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spend their career doing research on what they did

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as an undergraduate research project or their PhD and they stick with it.

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Andre's dramatically changed fields several times and that is unusual.

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Andre Geim's Nobel Prize is partly as a result of his ability

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to see the bigger picture, to look at different areas

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and see how different phenomena in science are interconnected.

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Andre is driven by a relentless pursuit of new ideas.

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Studying physics is my daytime job and it's my hobby as well,

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and you need to enjoy your hobby.

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And so, if you do the same thing all over again during, whatever,

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40 years of your active career, you get bored.

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I am trying to search for new phenomena

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and to search for new phenomena, you have to stray from the trodden path

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into some unknown areas. And each time, when there is a possibility

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to stray away, I try to do that.

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But while straying from the conventional path can be risky,

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Andre has repeatedly turned it to his advantage.

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To survive and get funding and to get papers in good journals,

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we've got to be the first to do the stuff.

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So there is this very competitive element.

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I would say almost a sporting element about it.

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So, there's this combination of creativity

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and this feeling of competitive sportiness in science

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that's very exciting, I think.

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Andre is exceptionally, exceptionally, exceptionally driven

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and exceptionally competitive, I would say.

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The roots of this ambition were nurtured by an unconventional,

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yet idyllic, upbringing.

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In 1950s communist Russia, Andre's city-based parents

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thought he'd be better off with his grandmother in Sochi

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on the shores of the Black Sea.

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It was a pretty happy childhood.

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I was left by my parents to live with my grandma

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for the first seven years of my life,

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and every summer I returned for three months to stay with her.

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Andre's interest in the scientific method was cultivated by days

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spent on the beach, near the weather station

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where his grandmother worked.

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She was a meteorologist responsible for the weather station

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on the Black Sea coast.

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The weather station was sort of 10m away from the sea,

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because she needed to take twice a day how high the waves were

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and the temperature of the sea.

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These recordings went somewhere to the centre of the city or so on.

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So that's... That's a pretty nice time. I'm missing it very much.

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Andre had excelled in physics at school,

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so it was a natural choice for a degree.

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HE SPEAKS IN RUSSIAN

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But getting into a Moscow university would prove a test of character.

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Initially, he decided not to aim for the very top.

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I was from a rather provincial city which was what,

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maybe 1,000 miles away from Moscow, so confidence wasn't there.

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So, I went first to the second-tier,

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but still a very good university in Moscow.

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LECTURER SPEAKS IN RUSSIAN

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I took the exams and I failed. Failed miserably.

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Faced with the unappealing alternative

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of conscription into the Red Army,

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Andre went back to his parents for a year of intensive study.

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But when he sat his retakes, he got a shock.

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Problems were difficult, OK? Surprisingly difficult, yeah.

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So I got a pretty low mark, not a fail, but a low mark

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and I realised that this was not enough

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to pass through the exams and get accepted to the university.

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Andre was uneasy,

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and after the exams, his fears were confirmed.

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I remember I came from this exam back to the hostel

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and there were people whom I explained to previously

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how to solve those problems for them

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and they got highest marks and I got very low marks.

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He could think of only one explanation.

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Every Russian passport stated its owner's ethnicity.

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Andre was of German descent.

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In this Cold War era, he was viewed with suspicion.

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For the state of the Soviet Union, I was a German

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and I was a potential immigrant and a threat to the system.

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It was a pretty unpleasant experience to learn this policy

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for the first time in your life

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as a sort of idealistic person who comes to a university

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and thinks that he's equal to everyone else,

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and then you find out that some animals are less equal than others,

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only because they have this different ethnicity.

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Convinced of his ability, Andre took an unusual step.

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He applied to Phystech,

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the top physics and maths institution in Russia.

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I think that Phystech was a sort of elite institution

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because of Phystech's system.

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If you are lower in standards, you just simply don't get there.

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You have to work hard to reach the level to get through the entry exam

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and then to survive in Phystech.

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The gamble paid off.

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Phystech were more interested in Andre's talent than his ethnicity.

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He was in.

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Now he had to survive.

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Our group was around 100 people which entered to deal with physics.

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And within this group of 100 there were winners

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of international Olympiads in maths and physics and so on.

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So essentially, creme de la creme of the brightest kids.

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We all incredibly suffered during this first half a year

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when we had to be brought up to the level of those kids

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with a strong background.

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Being amongst an elite

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ignited Andre's naturally competitive streak.

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After half a year, there was half-year exams.

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Five or six of those.

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I managed to get Excellent,

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the highest mark you can get in all of them.

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And then it was, "I can do it."

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At Moscow's state science park of Chernogolovka,

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Andre embarked on a PhD into an obscure area of metals research.

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But he quickly realised there was little here he could make his own.

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The PhD subject was probably one of the most boring subjects

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one can invent, OK?

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It was really a ridiculous exercise

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trying to dig very deep into the area.

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It was not interesting to anyone,

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including some people like myself who were involved in the subject.

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But there was an upside - he learned skills that would prove invaluable.

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His supervisor, Victor Petrashov, noticed Andre's talent in the lab.

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He was an extremely quick learner.

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He learned how to make samples,

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how to grow crystals, how to mount them in a cryostat, everything.

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So, at the end of day, he got all the...

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He got all the skills to do professional research.

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While doing this exercise, I learned how to do all sorts of things -

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machining, microscopes, tiny, nice devices and so on,

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and this skill I picked up from Victor, who is one of the,

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probably, most green fingered experimentalists I have ever known.

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Andre had met his wife,

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fellow physicist Irina Grigorieva, at university.

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She recalls how he already stood out from the crowd.

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I remember people were saying then, and Victor Petrashov also said,

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that Andre has this very rare combination of very green fingers,

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so he can really do things with his hands, but at the same time,

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has a very, very good understanding of what he is doing

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and a very broad overview of things.

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So, it...

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Yeah, people said already then that he was quite exceptional, yes.

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Communist Russia regarded science as a vital asset.

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But at a time of deep economic hardship,

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research institutions were chronically under-funded.

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It's very hard to explain how bad it was,

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because that's the only... Wax and shoestring is the only...

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is the only description I can think of for this one.

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You need...

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something really minor, like a different type of screw,

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you won't find it, you need to make it yourself.

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You need a different type of glue, or any glue,

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it's a search which would last for a year or something like that.

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You need a piece of rubber, it's again...it's a whole problem.

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We had to do everything ourselves,

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starting from tiny soldering iron to some electronics.

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And it took time.

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And that was actually a huge problem.

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This is why ratio of scientists and supporting staff

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in Chernogolovka was one to five.

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So five people worked for one scientist

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to provide everything for his research.

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And this actually worked but some people were frustrated.

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Although Andre continued working in Chernogolovka after his PhD,

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staying in the Soviet Union was going to hold him back.

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But in the late 1980s, the Russian political landscape was changing.

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Economic and social reforms under Gorbachev

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gave many Russians new freedoms.

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More Russian scientists were able to travel on an exchange programme

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with the Royal Society.

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And in 1990, Andre was granted a six-month visiting fellowship

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to Nottingham University.

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The young Russian quickly made an impression.

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Yes, I remember very well when Andre first came to us

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on his Royal Society visiting fellowship.

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I mean, he's physically a large presence

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and he's got a very loud voice

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and he was a very memorable person when he first hit the labs.

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I've got a very vivid recollection of that in the mid '90s, yes.

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And Nottingham made an impression on Andre too.

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Its state-of-the-art facilities for researching semiconductors -

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devices that lie at the heart of modern electronics -

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were in stark contrast to Russia's underfunded labs.

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It would prove a turning point.

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I always try to be in the top tier,

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but without really trying to excel.

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How can you excel when you get such limited resources

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like wax and a shoestring?

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And then you go to Nottingham,

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then you immediately find out that you can compete

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and you can compete at international level.

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So it changed not only scientific possibilities,

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it changed sort of my whole perspective

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on what I could do with my life,

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I found out that, wow, I can compete.

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I can do something more what I'm trained to do.

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I can...yeah, I can realise myself.

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And that was the moment

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when I sort of switched from being in the top tier

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trying to really doing my hardest and trying to doing my best,

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trying to excel.

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Despite only having a background understanding of semiconductors,

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Andre threw himself into lab work.

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It was pretty clear that when Andre came to us he was something special.

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It was obvious from the very beginning,

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he was a really committed scientist

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who worked very hard, with a very good knowledge of the field.

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It was remarkable how quickly he moved from his subject

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that he did in Chernogolovka into semiconductor physics

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and become familiar with it very quickly.

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Andre brought his own unique perspective to the research.

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The main thing was that he was able to take some of our ideas

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and run with them himself.

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So I was always very interested at that time,

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and still am, on resonant tunnelling and Andre did some very nice

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experiments at lower temperatures than we'd bothered to do.

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So he was always able to find, to turn up some new thing

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and delve deep into it.

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And he managed to publish two papers in six months.

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For anyone, OK, especially as a post doctoral researcher

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to publish two papers in a journal within such a short spell of time,

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it was...it's an exception.

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It was becoming clear that he had to find a way of staying in the west.

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I think by the end of the period, I realised that there was no way back.

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So by the end of six months I started looking

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for post doctoral positions around.

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So, for me, I knew that if I like to work and enjoy work,

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I have to find a place where it's possible to work.

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And Russia was not an option at that time.

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At the age of 36, Andre applied for his first permanent position

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in Nijmegen in the Netherlands.

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His unconventional approach divided the panel that interviewed him.

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I remember quite well.

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It was sort of a controversial nomination I would say

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because, well Andre is not a standard character,

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so he definitely was different from anybody else.

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I sort of liked him and found him interesting

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and funny and intelligent,

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but there were also some other people who were very much in doubt

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that he was overdoing it

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and overselling himself, and some people shared my belief,

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so I was sort of torn between two opinions, either this is a genius

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or the others thought this may be the biggest miss in your life.

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And eventually I called other people to get the same advice

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and I roughly got the same contradictory advice

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and in the end said, "Well, let's just give it a try."

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Once installed, Andre had to adapt to the Dutch way of life

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and the constraints of the job.

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In some sense, when you are a post doc you are sort of like a buccaneer

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which goes for treasure hunts

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and you don't care about the casualties around you.

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Whereas, when you go in a permanent position,

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you have a bit different responsibility

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so you have to get used to that.

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He was expected to sort of fit in the existing structure

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and start contributing

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and I don't think that's what he wanted to do.

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What the group was doing, he wasn't interested in that.

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He didn't think it was worth his effort.

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He did not want to work on that,

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he wanted to work on something else and that wasn't possible.

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To make his mark, Andre needed to find his own area of research.

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The lab wasn't equipped to study any of his previous specialisms.

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But it did focus on the study of materials in magnetic fields

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and Andre was able to create his own research niche,

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investigating the behaviour of superconductors.

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Not a huge boom or big bang,

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it was a relatively minor niche area but it was new.

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It is attributed to myself.

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Repeatedly moving departments was beginning to pay off.

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Each time you move from one country to another country,

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from one university to another university,

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from one city to another city, you are forced by your life to adjust,

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to adjust to different environment,

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whether it's social or academic environment.

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And especially initially, you are forced to change your direction.

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You are forced to learn a new subject,

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you are forced to get some additional piece of knowledge

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and after a few times, it becomes sort of like riding a bike.

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And changing direction brought Andre his first taste of the limelight.

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He started to look for more areas he could investigate,

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and came across the idea of magnetic water -

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the claim that a magnet can change the interaction

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of water and minerals, helping to prevent limescale.

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Allegedly, when you put a magnet on top of your tap with normal water,

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at least some people claim that there is no more scale in your kettle.

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Andre thought that if this effect really existed,

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the place to test it would be in the lab's powerful high field magnet,

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so he did something radical.

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I just pour water inside the magnet,

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it's apparently not a very scientific experiment to do,

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it's pretty expensive equipment, and you won't find many scientists

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who will pour water inside their expensive equipment,

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and astonishingly, instead of water ending up on the floor,

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we found out initially small droplets of water levitating.

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To his surprise,

0:26:330:26:35

the water didn't fall through the hollow centre of the magnet.

0:26:350:26:38

Then starting putting whatever, from beer to wine to cheese

0:26:430:26:47

to sweets to bread to tomatoes to strawberries inside magnetic field.

0:26:470:26:52

They came home saying, "Everything is flying! Everything is flying!

0:26:560:27:00

"Bread is flying! Cheese is flying! Tomatoes are flying!"

0:27:000:27:04

So it took me some time to understand

0:27:040:27:06

what they were actually doing. But they started with water,

0:27:060:27:10

and then they found that everything was levitating.

0:27:100:27:12

Andre recognised that this was diamagnetism.

0:27:160:27:20

It's well known that everything in life is a tiny bit magnetic.

0:27:210:27:25

But this phenomenon can only be seen

0:27:250:27:28

when an object is placed close to a magnetic field.

0:27:280:27:31

Until Andre put water in the high field magnet,

0:27:410:27:44

few people believed diamagnetism

0:27:440:27:46

could possibly be strong enough to levitate an object.

0:27:460:27:49

People, even my peers,

0:27:570:28:01

at some conferences where I presented this result,

0:28:010:28:05

couldn't believe that.

0:28:050:28:07

People thought, I think many of them thought it was a hoax

0:28:070:28:11

and try to find out that it's manipulation of images and so on.

0:28:110:28:17

Next, to make his point, Andre did something really bizarre.

0:28:170:28:21

It was probably first time when I realise

0:28:240:28:28

that it's important to add to scientific research

0:28:280:28:32

a sort of wow factor.

0:28:320:28:33

So you think it should be something alive,

0:28:360:28:39

and frog was the smallest thing we could find to fit inside the magnet.

0:28:390:28:45

My face couldn't fit inside the magnet by any means,

0:28:450:28:51

it was something like that, a hole, and yeah, the frog was an image

0:28:510:28:57

which catched the imagination. We tried many, many different things,

0:28:570:29:02

spiders, grasshoppers, even hamsters,

0:29:020:29:07

but the frog was both small enough and alive enough

0:29:070:29:11

to appeal to general public, especially school children.

0:29:110:29:14

That was very exciting time. It was very exciting.

0:29:170:29:21

Of course, all the headlines and the papers,

0:29:210:29:24

he liked that, I think he liked the effect of it, it was nice,

0:29:240:29:28

but I think he liked that it was possible to make science

0:29:280:29:32

so beautiful and interesting to so many people. I think he liked that.

0:29:320:29:39

Watch how it goes in.

0:29:390:29:41

Andre had hit on a winning formula.

0:29:410:29:44

Again inside the magnet.

0:29:440:29:47

Exploring ideas away from his core expertise could lead to

0:29:470:29:50

attention-grabbing discoveries.

0:29:500:29:53

Andre is different

0:29:530:29:54

because he's a real, actual scientist of the 21st century,

0:29:540:30:01

because, er, now we have to

0:30:010:30:07

have more publicity to popularise science

0:30:070:30:13

and say, in 19th century or 20th century,

0:30:130:30:20

you could be a sort of monk, you could work with your science

0:30:200:30:26

and you wouldn't care what other people think about it.

0:30:260:30:30

Yeah. So, liquid nitrogen...

0:30:300:30:34

So, without glass...

0:30:360:30:38

Inside, no problem.

0:30:400:30:43

APPLAUSE

0:30:430:30:45

But Andre is different.

0:30:450:30:48

He is sort of entertainer

0:30:480:30:52

and showman - he likes this, he enjoys this kind of things.

0:30:520:30:56

He enjoys doing things for public, and it's great

0:30:560:31:00

and example is his levitation of frogs.

0:31:000:31:04

The Physics Prize...

0:31:040:31:07

Along with a colleague, Andre won an Ig Nobel.

0:31:070:31:11

The Ig Nobel Physics Prize is awarded this year to Andre Geim

0:31:110:31:16

of the University of Nijmegen in the Netherlands...

0:31:160:31:19

A light-hearted award given each year

0:31:190:31:21

for unusual achievements in scientific research.

0:31:210:31:24

..for using magnets to levitate a frog.

0:31:240:31:27

After accepting it, I think we both were proud

0:31:300:31:33

that we had enough sense of humour

0:31:330:31:35

and whatever it's called,

0:31:350:31:38

the sense of self-deprecation, to accept this prize.

0:31:380:31:44

Many of Andre's colleagues believed that no serious scientist

0:31:440:31:49

should accept an Ig Nobel.

0:31:490:31:51

I like to have fun in my life, OK,

0:31:510:31:53

so sometimes I say there are few pleasures in our life,

0:31:530:31:58

and three of them we know - good food, wine, and women or men,

0:31:580:32:03

depending on your position in this world.

0:32:030:32:07

But people forget about the fourth pleasure,

0:32:070:32:10

it is pissing off your colleagues,

0:32:100:32:12

and I had a lot of this due to Ig Nobel prize.

0:32:120:32:17

Annoying your colleagues is one of the pleasures I would never give up.

0:32:170:32:21

However irritating he might have been,

0:32:240:32:26

Andre was now juggling several job offers.

0:32:260:32:29

After six years in Holland, I already sort of acquired a reputation

0:32:310:32:39

and had been offered several positions around the world,

0:32:390:32:45

and Manchester...

0:32:450:32:48

came as one of many.

0:32:480:32:51

But it was special that...

0:32:510:32:55

..people offered this position together with Irina.

0:32:580:33:01

A job at Manchester University

0:33:030:33:06

didn't just mean Andre could work with his physicist wife Irina.

0:33:060:33:10

It offered him the scientific freedom to start his own lab

0:33:140:33:18

and pursue the subjects he wanted.

0:33:180:33:20

But it was a gamble, too.

0:33:210:33:23

Every time you move from one place to another, you take a huge risk

0:33:250:33:31

because OK, sometimes you don't get what you hoped

0:33:310:33:36

or sometimes you get more than you bargained for,

0:33:360:33:41

like I got in Nijmegen - in both senses, OK.

0:33:410:33:46

But it depends on your confidence.

0:33:460:33:51

I was confident enough that

0:33:510:33:53

eventually I'll manage to build something.

0:33:530:33:56

The strategy paid off sooner than he thought.

0:33:590:34:01

Andre set up a system that became known as

0:34:030:34:06

the Friday Night experiments.

0:34:060:34:08

A deceptively casual-sounding arrangement

0:34:080:34:11

to encourage his team to play with ideas.

0:34:110:34:14

Essentially, it's never one night. There is a long process

0:34:140:34:19

trying to accumulate knowledge to lead to experiment,

0:34:190:34:23

you just don't press a random button, you just try to see

0:34:230:34:27

what can be done. Even pouring water inside a magnet,

0:34:270:34:32

it takes time to think that it's worth doing and why doing this.

0:34:320:34:39

You need to acquire knowledge,

0:34:390:34:40

and then settle down with the experiment you want to do.

0:34:400:34:45

But, er, but essentially,

0:34:450:34:49

it's very simple, quick experiments where you try to do something

0:34:490:34:55

and when it works, you can proceed,

0:34:550:34:57

when it doesn't work, you just drop it.

0:34:570:35:00

It wasn't long before one of these experiments hit the headlines.

0:35:020:35:06

It's the stuff of superheroes -

0:35:080:35:10

walking upside down on ceilings and scaling skyscrapers.

0:35:100:35:14

Well, move over, Spider-Man,

0:35:140:35:15

because scientists in Manchester have developed a sticky tape

0:35:150:35:19

so strong, it could enable man to do just that.

0:35:190:35:22

Andre had been inspired by an article

0:35:330:35:36

about the incredible climbing ability of geckos.

0:35:360:35:40

The tiny hairs that cover geckos' toes attach to nearly any surface

0:35:470:35:52

through a weak electromagnetic bond.

0:35:520:35:55

The force of this bond is minute,

0:35:560:35:59

but a million hairs working together create a very sticky foot.

0:35:590:36:03

Andre wondered if he could design a material

0:36:070:36:10

that would replicate this effect.

0:36:100:36:12

The tape we produced, it was a small piece,

0:36:120:36:16

square by square centimetre, it never worked as good as a real gecko,

0:36:160:36:22

it got spoiled after a couple of attachments

0:36:220:36:25

and we had to use very tiny pieces of the square centimetre

0:36:250:36:30

to repeat this experiment many times,

0:36:300:36:33

but it was a proof of concept that we humans, with our existing facilities,

0:36:330:36:39

are at the edge of reproducing, mimicking nature.

0:36:390:36:43

These scientists have proved the technology works -

0:36:430:36:47

the next stage will be to see if this material can be made

0:36:470:36:50

more durable and if it can be mass-produced.

0:36:500:36:53

If they solve that problem, then people really will be able

0:36:530:36:57

to walk up walls and along ceilings.

0:36:570:36:59

Andre's playful new system was proving fruitful.

0:37:010:37:04

If I looked back at the number of things I tried,

0:37:060:37:11

at least I tried more than a single step, but three, four steps,

0:37:110:37:16

it's a remarkable success rate, I think it's more than 10% for sure.

0:37:160:37:22

Which actually tells everyone a very important story.

0:37:240:37:28

When you are along this rail track

0:37:280:37:31

and moving in the same directions, there is a very little chance

0:37:310:37:36

to find something new, but when you scout into different areas

0:37:360:37:41

your chances of success grow remarkably quickly.

0:37:410:37:46

Being unafraid to explore new ideas

0:37:480:37:50

lies at the heart of Andre's method.

0:37:500:37:53

But there's nothing random

0:38:000:38:01

about his knack of selecting those with real potential.

0:38:010:38:05

He considers thousands of ideas and possibilities,

0:38:080:38:12

and always refers them,

0:38:120:38:13

"Is this really new? Is this really different?"

0:38:130:38:16

And he's deliberately involved with finding it,

0:38:160:38:19

and then jumps upon the one which has a high potential

0:38:190:38:24

and that, I think, is not a general attitude of most researchers,

0:38:240:38:29

I think that is sort of special.

0:38:290:38:31

I think Andre, that's one of his really great strengths,

0:38:310:38:36

that he can see those things that are promising,

0:38:360:38:38

and that they would create new systems

0:38:380:38:43

or would allow us to do something new.

0:38:430:38:46

And again, I think it is based on

0:38:460:38:49

his exceptionally good understanding of science and broad view of it.

0:38:490:38:55

Crucial to the success of the Friday night experiments

0:38:560:38:59

is a willingness to abandon ideas when they're not working.

0:38:590:39:03

This is actually very difficult decision, to cut losses in science,

0:39:050:39:10

because you are tempted to continue one metre deeper,

0:39:100:39:16

one metre deeper, and deeper and deeper,

0:39:160:39:18

maybe to the centre of the earth, sometimes people do.

0:39:180:39:21

It's a practice that close colleague Kostya Novoselov has also adopted.

0:39:210:39:27

The first thing which I learned from him

0:39:280:39:33

that you need to be smart

0:39:330:39:36

and courageous enough to say "OK, I was unsuccessful,

0:39:360:39:41

"my model didn't work, this didn't work.

0:39:410:39:44

"We should stop, and there are so may other ideas out there

0:39:440:39:49

"that we can always find something new."

0:39:490:39:53

You don't need to spend the rest of your life

0:39:530:39:56

trying to push in this direction.

0:39:560:40:00

It was a Friday night experiment that kick-started

0:40:030:40:06

Andre's greatest breakthrough.

0:40:060:40:08

As materials become thinner, their properties change.

0:40:110:40:14

Andre thought it would be interesting to test

0:40:160:40:18

thin pieces of the carbon material, graphite.

0:40:180:40:21

I was looking for new areas to expand

0:40:220:40:25

and looking for something new and interesting,

0:40:250:40:28

and one of the many, many, I would say, ideas

0:40:280:40:32

which was on the back of my mind,

0:40:320:40:35

was trying to look for thin films of graphite.

0:40:350:40:40

After weeks of trying to polish a sample down to thin pieces,

0:40:400:40:43

one of the team had an idea.

0:40:430:40:45

Suddenly, a mature researcher who was working next to us

0:40:450:40:51

in the same in the same lab on completely different project,

0:40:510:40:56

he said, "Why do you use polish?

0:40:560:40:59

"Why you just don't use Scotch tape to peel thin layers?"

0:40:590:41:05

Using tape to clean the surface of a graphite sample

0:41:060:41:09

is a technique used in labs all over the world.

0:41:090:41:13

Because the tape is usually thrown away,

0:41:130:41:16

no one had looked twice at the layer of peel that was left behind.

0:41:160:41:20

You see, it's on the surface, nothing spectacular,

0:41:200:41:24

everyone knows that it's sort of material which splits.

0:41:240:41:30

Then you put it together and make a fresh cut,

0:41:300:41:37

essentially it gets twice thinner.

0:41:370:41:41

So you make another cut, and so on.

0:41:410:41:44

And then you ask yourself a very simple question -

0:41:440:41:49

how thin you can make graphite

0:41:490:41:53

by repeating this twice, twice,

0:41:530:41:56

twice and so on, what the thinnest material can be?

0:41:560:42:01

Under the microscope,

0:42:050:42:07

the thinnest graphite flakes were nearly transparent -

0:42:070:42:11

just a few nanometres thick.

0:42:110:42:13

No one had ever managed to make graphite this thin.

0:42:170:42:20

This was an experiment with real potential.

0:42:220:42:25

I realised immediately that we can really make thin pieces of graphite

0:42:290:42:36

and it would be a new experimental system.

0:42:360:42:39

Whatever it will bring us, I didn't know, I didn't want to know,

0:42:390:42:44

I just knew it's a new kind of experimental system worth studying.

0:42:440:42:48

Very thin layers of materials are practically impossible to make,

0:42:490:42:53

because as a system tries to minimise its surface energy,

0:42:530:42:57

it pools into tiny islands.

0:42:570:42:59

But for the first time here, they had a very thin,

0:42:590:43:02

continuous layer of graphite that was stable.

0:43:020:43:06

Graphene.

0:43:060:43:08

Graphene is made up of a single layer of carbon atoms

0:43:080:43:11

arranged in a perfect hexagonal lattice.

0:43:110:43:14

It's so thin, it's the very first two-dimensional material.

0:43:150:43:19

Once the team had isolated graphene,

0:43:210:43:24

the next step was to see how it conducted electricity.

0:43:240:43:27

When they applied an electric field to it,

0:43:280:43:32

Andre and his colleagues were stunned to see

0:43:320:43:34

significant changes in its properties.

0:43:340:43:37

Essentially we could change conductivity

0:43:380:43:42

through this bit of graphite, and for me it was eureka moment,

0:43:420:43:47

because I knew how much and how long people during the last 100 years,

0:43:470:43:55

essentially tried to make this so-called "metallic transistor,"

0:43:550:44:00

and then suddenly, within couple of hours, after using Scotch tape,

0:44:000:44:04

we managed to do this better than anyone before.

0:44:040:44:08

And I thought, "Wow!"

0:44:080:44:09

As technology becomes more demanding,

0:44:110:44:14

scientists have been searching for a more efficient material

0:44:140:44:16

than the semiconductor silicon.

0:44:160:44:19

Metals were once thought to be ideal candidates,

0:44:190:44:22

but their electrical properties proved hard to control.

0:44:220:44:26

Now it seemed they had found the very first metal-like material

0:44:270:44:31

that could be manipulated using an electric field.

0:44:310:44:34

To be certain, the team repeated the experiment more than 50 times -

0:44:360:44:39

and got the same results.

0:44:390:44:42

They had uncovered the most exciting material in physics in years.

0:44:440:44:49

The first finding that lead to absolutely great excitement

0:44:500:44:54

was that it was possible to make this very, very thin film

0:44:540:44:58

and it was conducting.

0:44:580:45:00

It was possible to measure, actually, its properties

0:45:000:45:03

so it conducted current, and it conducted current very well.

0:45:030:45:06

It was stable, nothing happened to it,

0:45:060:45:08

and you could tune its properties, you could tune its conductivity.

0:45:080:45:13

I think that's when the excitement went through the roof.

0:45:130:45:17

Andre and his team submitted a paper on their results to Nature,

0:45:180:45:22

one of the world's most prestigious science publications.

0:45:220:45:26

But it was rejected. Twice.

0:45:270:45:30

One of the referees literally wrote, "This paper does not offer

0:45:320:45:40

"much new and exciting things. Why should we publish it?

0:45:400:45:45

"It can be published in a secondary, third year journal," so that was it.

0:45:450:45:51

Andre refused to give up.

0:45:520:45:54

The team rewrote the paper

0:45:550:45:57

and got it accepted by Nature's main rival - Science.

0:45:570:46:01

Its publication was just the beginning.

0:46:010:46:04

The paper inspired scientists everywhere to investigate

0:46:100:46:13

graphene's properties further.

0:46:130:46:16

In 2010 alone, more than 5,000 papers were published worldwide,

0:46:160:46:20

with Andre Geim's lab in Manchester at the forefront.

0:46:200:46:24

The new research revealed just how extraordinary graphene really is.

0:46:300:46:35

Its massless electrons never stop,

0:46:350:46:38

moving at a 100,000 kilometres per second.

0:46:380:46:41

They behave more like subatomic particles,

0:46:410:46:44

usually found in space or a nuclear explosion.

0:46:440:46:48

Before now, scientists needed something like

0:46:480:46:51

a Large Hadron Collider to study these exotic physics.

0:46:510:46:55

It is indeed like a philosopher's stone, or it almost delivers magic.

0:46:550:47:00

It is truly amazing.

0:47:000:47:01

It's so beautiful, such a beautiful system,

0:47:010:47:04

the way in which the electrons move.

0:47:040:47:05

And all in just this one system.

0:47:050:47:08

Graphene is a wonder-material.

0:47:080:47:10

This is graphene. Let's call him Mr G.

0:47:100:47:15

It has so many superlatives to its name.

0:47:150:47:18

What makes Mr G a really super material

0:47:180:47:22

is the combination of his unique properties.

0:47:220:47:25

G is the first 2D crystal ever known to us, the thinnest object

0:47:250:47:31

ever obtained and also the lightest one.

0:47:310:47:35

G is the world's strongest material, harder than diamond

0:47:350:47:40

and about 300 times stronger than steel.

0:47:400:47:44

G conducts electricity much better than copper.

0:47:440:47:48

G is a transparent material.

0:47:480:47:51

G is bendable and can take any form you want.

0:47:510:47:55

But it's not just physicists that are excited by graphene.

0:47:550:48:01

Its unique combination of properties have also sparked a race

0:48:080:48:12

to exploit its commercial potential.

0:48:120:48:14

Such an incredibly thin, yet conductive, material

0:48:160:48:19

could have dozens of functions -

0:48:190:48:22

like this flexible touch screen.

0:48:220:48:26

A prototype has already been created.

0:48:260:48:28

There's a lot of hype at the moment

0:48:320:48:35

and some of those speculations will never work out,

0:48:350:48:39

but there are so many possibilities. I would be amazed,

0:48:390:48:44

purely by statistical chances, if this material wouldn't work out

0:48:440:48:49

in a few areas where it would not disrupt the technologies

0:48:490:48:55

that currently exist and wouldn't offer us something new,

0:48:550:48:59

even as consumers.

0:48:590:49:01

Andre and his colleague Kostya had revealed a new material

0:49:010:49:05

that not only promised to revolutionise the study of physics,

0:49:050:49:08

but also the world of electronics.

0:49:080:49:11

I think what's lovely about graphene is that it's so simple.

0:49:110:49:14

You know, you can explain it in one or two sentences -

0:49:140:49:17

it's a single layer of carbon atoms all held together in this mesh

0:49:170:49:23

that you can roll up, fold up and do all sorts of amazing things with.

0:49:230:49:27

You don't need to understand quantum physics or Einstein's relativity

0:49:270:49:30

to be able to appreciate what a potentially wonder material

0:49:300:49:34

graphene could be.

0:49:340:49:36

And Andre's wonder material seems to precisely fit

0:49:360:49:39

his unorthodox approach.

0:49:390:49:42

I think something in the discovery of graphene is also related

0:49:420:49:45

to being provocative, just to show to anybody else that what you say

0:49:450:49:48

cannot be, "Yes, it can be, ha-ha."

0:49:480:49:51

That's sort of characterises Andre a bit.

0:49:510:49:54

So it's the perfect discovery for him?

0:49:540:49:56

Yes, fits the person perfectly...for sure.

0:49:560:50:01

The discovery of graphene is one of those wonderful,

0:50:010:50:04

quite rare occasions when you do something very simple,

0:50:040:50:07

almost playful, almost trivially fun and yet make a profound discovery.

0:50:070:50:14

Andre Geim won global recognition for his achievement

0:50:140:50:18

and it wasn't long before the ultimate accolade.

0:50:180:50:22

There was a telephone call,

0:50:240:50:27

and a lady told me that "It's a very important call,

0:50:270:50:31

"please don't hang up."

0:50:310:50:33

And so I said,

0:50:340:50:36

"OK, are you going to tell me that I've won the Nobel Prize?"

0:50:360:50:40

The 2010 Nobel Prize in physics jointly to Professor Andre Geim

0:50:400:50:47

and Professor Konstantin Novoselov.

0:50:470:50:50

Apparently it was not in the script.

0:50:530:50:55

It really came as a complete surprise for me.

0:50:580:51:00

You could see it from my pictures.

0:51:000:51:03

I was absolutely unprepared, unshaved and undressed that day.

0:51:030:51:09

I was sitting on Skype to people in Holland,

0:51:090:51:15

discussing some recent experiments

0:51:150:51:18

when a phone call came from somebody with a thick Swedish accent.

0:51:180:51:25

Immediately, he said, "You have 45 minutes of normal life left,

0:51:250:51:31

"just spend it wisely."

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I now ask you to step forward to receive your Nobel Prizes

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from the hands of His Majesty The King.

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The Nobel prize is THE biggest thing you could get as a scientist.

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It's like having ten Oscars, every Oscar you could ever win.

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And of course, there's only one every year for the whole world

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in each subject so, yeah, it is absolutely the biggest thing.

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I treasure other prizes as well, but within a few months,

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you realise that the Nobel Prize, indeed, is very special.

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For whatever reason it is, we don't know the reason how it's organised.

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It's probably the same like in the Olympic Games.

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There are many people who say,

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"It's important to participate, not to win."

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We know the winners.

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We do not treasure as much bronze and silver medals.

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Gold medal is something special, so in a sense, in science,

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it's probably ten times more important

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than an Olympic Gold medal.

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I think it changes your life, I think you suddenly become

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a media star, you've got lots of new pressures on you.

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People want a bit of the action.

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I think for weeks and weeks afterwards it's very demanding

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and you have to go to this ceremony in Stockholm

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and experience all this.

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Then come back to your lab and try getting back to work.

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If you don't think that you are sort of competitive enough,

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you're probably not a good fit to be in the top tier of science

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and you would never win the Nobel Prize.

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So when you've got one,

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it's sort of a stamp that you are one of the fittest and then

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some people with a certain predisposition start thinking,

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"I'm a genius," or something like that, and other people think,

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"I have to prove that I'm worthy of this Nobel Prize,"

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and they start working like mad and go mad eventually.

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I think it takes strong legs to carry the burden

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of a Nobel Prize.

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Everything you say starts having a relevance

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which is far beyond what you wanted.

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That may make you crazy, that may make you overestimate yourself.

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APPLAUSE

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But despite the Nobel circus,

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Andre's eye is still firmly on research.

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It was a very short period,

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it's only one year gone since the Nobel Prize

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and it makes me wonder how disruptive the Nobel Prize

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was for research. Honestly speaking,

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I think 3 months out of this 12 months went into something else

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rather than research, but still there were nine months

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of very intensive research.

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We're still looking for this high temperature, room temperature

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and above super conductivity.

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It will probably remain for the rest of my life as a dream to fulfil.

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Andre will never rest on his laurels, never.

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The pace of his work is exactly the same as it was before.

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Another Nature physics paper out on Sunday,

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I know they're working on another big paper.

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I can't imagine he'll ever slow down.

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Initially forced by circumstance,

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Professor Andre Geim has developed a style of research that allows him

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to take risks and deliberately explore territory

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away from the mainstream.

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His playful methods and instinctive ability to spot promising terrain

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are backed up by clear thinking.

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Andre has this very rare ability to see the big picture,

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but at the same time, seeing all the small details.

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To use a metaphor, I think he can see the wood,

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the trees and the grass all at the same time.

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That I think is very typical of Andre. He finds something new,

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he doesn't stick to that thing,

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he situates it in its environment, in its history, in its content.

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He's also very fair.

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Everybody who did something in that direction earlier is recognised,

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he doesn't try to make himself better by ignoring his predecessors,

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and that makes that when the thing catches attention

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it immediately gets a momentum which picks up

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because the whole field is covered

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and that, I do think, is sort of peculiar for Andre.

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His method has borne extraordinary results.

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Geim can lay claim to seeding three new areas of research

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levitation, gecko tape and graphene.

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And he'd like more scientists to follow his lead.

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Everyone can do it.

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The way we are doing things is just too comfortable

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and we need to put ourselves out of the comfort zone

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and try to do something

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which we wouldn't think about doing a day before.

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I'm doing this because I'm trying to get new experiences.

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Jumping to another subject is another way of getting experiences.

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I haven't lost this childish attitude,

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trying to get as much as possible out of the world

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in terms of impressions and experiences.

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This is it. I'm not thinking about any legacy or anything like that.

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My brain is not dead enough for this.

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# I planned each charted course

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# Each careful step along the byway

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# And more, much more than this

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# I did it my way. #

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