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When he was seven, Charlie was obsessed with kingfishers. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
When he was 13, just looking at animals wasn't enough | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and he was compelled to take pictures of them. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
He got his first job as a wildlife cameraman when he was 16. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
But now he's 40, Charlie's done something extraordinary. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
He's bought a rainforest in Peru. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
I didn't want to sit around and spend my life | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
being depressed about the environment and not doing anything about it. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
So I thought, "Right, if I can do my bit, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
"then at least I know in my life, I've done my bit." | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Charlie wants to understand the issues | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
and the people threatening the whole of the Amazon. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
But after nearly a year in the rainforest, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
he's seen first-hand the poverty | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
that drives people to cut down the trees. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
How you doing? | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
And now he's responsible for much more than a battered piece of land. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
There are those that say it's already too late. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
That nobody cares if we wreck the planet. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
But if we're going down, Charlie's going down fighting. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Welcome to camp. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
These are...tents for kit. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
And there's my tent, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
which is, look, I mean... | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
That's just embarrassing, isn't it? | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
But why keep it tidy? | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
My mum's not checking, is she? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
And then just down here... | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
..that's the path to the bathroom. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
I say bathroom, I mean gorgeous, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
crystal-clear, mountainous stream. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
This is Charlie's third trip to his rainforest | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
and for an animal-obsessed cameraman, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
there are few better places to spend your time than the Amazon. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Look, come over here. Look, look at this! | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
This is a full-on swarm of army ants. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Every single creature that's stuck in this is going to die. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
And it's going to be chopped up | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
and taken back to the den, called a bivouac. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Look, something's been killed here. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
These are actually my favourite kind of army ant, these ones. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
They're called Eciton burchellii. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
They might look little, but they are | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
one of the most important creatures in the rainforest. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
They're what's called a keystone species. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
They're coming onto me now. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Really hurt when they bite. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Argh! | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
Yargh! | 0:03:35 | 0:03:36 | |
But what's cool about them is that they're actually considered an environment. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
You've got the high Andes, the rainforest, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
the cloud forest, the lowland rainforest and army ants. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Because they are basically, a moving ecosystem. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
And all around us are ant birds. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
And they feed on the insects that are trying to escape from the ants. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Two or three stings will kill one. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
So they spend their whole lives right on the edge of that risk. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
If they make a mistake, they're going to die. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Very cool. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
Charlie paid £6,000 for 100 acres of rainforest, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
without seeing it first. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
He wanted to use the land as a barrier | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
to stop people getting into Manu National Park. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
I suppose the thing that excites me about it is that, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
of all the rainforests in the world, it is the best one. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
And it's the most bio-diverse place on Earth. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Although Manu is supposed to be a protected area, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
it is being illegally logged. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
And Charlie's land is strategically placed | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
at the end of the only road for miles. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
But when he first arrived, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
he discovered that his own piece of paradise | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
was 100 acres of knackered secondary forest | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and a large field of coca. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
The few guards patrolling Manu discovered a sign | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
warning Charlie not to interfere. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
But his biggest worry is that an illegal logger called Elias | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
is still using the land to support his family. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
Is it the yucca that's your main income, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
or is that the illegal logging? | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Do I value protecting Manu | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
more than I value a family? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
I probably value Manu more. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Charlie knew he'd have to act tough to protect the Amazon, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
but when he went to kick Elias out, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
he just couldn't bring himself to do it. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Yeah! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
How are you doing? | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
I think the worst thing was when Elias told me | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
he had a disabled daughter... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
..I didn't believe him. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
And I actually thought he was using that as a tool to try and, er... | 0:06:49 | 0:06:55 | |
..sway me. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
And then when I met her, I felt so cynical and guilty | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
for making that assumption. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
Charlie promised his family that this would be his last trip | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
to Peru for a while. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
But unless he can work out what to do with Elias, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
he will have achieved nothing. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
And to make matters worse, the park guards think that while he's | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
been away, somebody has been smuggling trees through his land. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
Do you know these guys? Do you know who they are? | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
By allowing him to stay on the land, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
Charlie may have given Elias and his friends | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
the perfect cover story to continue logging the park. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
Of all the things I've encountered while I've been out here, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Elias has been the most complex. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
I'm sort off stuck between wanting to boot him off | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
because that's, I suppose, what my original idea was, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
and knowing that morally, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
it would be reprehensible for me to boot him off. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
So now, what do I now do to sort this situation out? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:14 | |
But it's got me thinking, if nothing else! | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
I could just walk away, that's the other thing. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
And if I walked away from it, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
the only loss would be the money I'd spent on it | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
because the land would still exist in exactly the same way it did before. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
There are countless people like Elias throughout South America | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
who rely on the forest for their survival. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
But if they carry on hammering the Amazon at the current rate, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
then within 200 years, the rainforest will only exist | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
in a few protected areas. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
And the crazy thing is, we don't even know what we're losing | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
because modern science has studied less than 1% of the Amazon. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
COCKEREL CROWS | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
Don Alberto is a shaman for the huachipaeri tribe. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
He believes in a world that cannot be seen. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
A world of spirits. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
And part of his role in the community | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
is to heal the sick and mend the soul. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Though his methods look ridiculous | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
in a world where medicine comes out of a bottle, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
many of our potions have ingredients found in the Amazon. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
And Charlie has asked the Don to take him | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
on a tour of his medicine cabinet. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Oh, well, I'll take them anyway. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
If this can cure cancer, why doesn't the world know about this? | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Worldwide, there are 3,000 plants that have been | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
identified as being useful in treating cancer. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
And 70% of them are only found in the rainforest. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Our world of concrete and glass is so removed from nature | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
that Alberto's connection to the land seems alien. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
Personally, I have a great big spiritual hole in me | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
because I don't believe in anything | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
that I can't have proved or see. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Don Alberto has a patient whose left arm is paralysed. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
He uses chanting and tobacco to channel nature's energy | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
and calls on the spirits to help him diagnose what is wrong. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
Do you think it's through experience that you can work out, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
make diagnoses, or do you think it's the plants speaking to you, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
or the forest speaking to you and giving you the knowledge | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
of maybe what's wrong with him? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
I think it's very easy to romanticise the idea | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
of Amazonian, shamanistic medicine. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
And I think it's very easy to romanticise it | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
over the top of our own medicine and actually... | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
we can't forget that our medicine is unbelievably good. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
We are incredibly good at curing things and making medicines and... | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
I think we're a lot better at it than he is. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
It sounds awful, doesn't it? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
But his approach and his explanation to me | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
is that the actual compound is only one part of the process. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
And there's another whole pile of elements, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
both physical and spiritual, that need applying as well. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
How are you feeling? Has it made any difference in the night? | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
A shaman doesn't learn about the forest from books or science. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
The forest speaks to Don Alberto. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
And there's one plant more important than any other | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
to open his mind to the energy flowing through nature. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
DON ALBERTO LAUGHS | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Alberto is brewing an infusion of 12 different forest plants | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
that will give Charlie a glimpse of the world he sees. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
Plants talking to people? Er... | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-..a load of old -BLEEP. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
I'd love to think it wasn't. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
I suppose that's why I'm here, I want proof. I want some proof. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
According to western science, Ayahuasca activates | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
parahippocampal areas of the brain | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
that are involved in processing emotion and memory. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
Don Alberto describes | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
how forest spirits will talk to Charlie in a dream | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
and show him his true path. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
HE CHANTS | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
Snakes, wasps, spiders, crocodiles. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
There were a lot of animals in the visions, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
but the only ones giving me messages were actually the rainforest animals. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:06 | |
HE CONTINUES TO CHANT | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Whatever he did, it worked! | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
It really worked. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
What I wanted to do was go on a journey | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
to discover more about the forest. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
And it irritatingly, was about me. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
The understanding of myself | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
and being given this understanding by the creatures of the forest | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
was the most enlightening | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
and profound experience I've ever had. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
It absolutely blew me away. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
And what I realised is that, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
-although I have what -I -think is a knowledge and understanding of the world, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
I will happily admit that it might not be right. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
And I look at Alberto in a different way. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
I know a bit more. I wouldn't say I know, but I know a bit more | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
about what he's talking about | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
when he talks to me about the forest spirits. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Because essentially, I've seen them. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
The rainforest sustains a culture and understanding of the world | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
that we've almost forgotten. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
It may contain medicines that could save millions of lives. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Who knows how many species of plant and animal make their home here. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:56 | |
In fact, it's almost impossible to comprehend how much is being lost. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
And whatever's being done to save the rainforest, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
it just isn't working. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Before Charlie goes back to his land, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
he wants to see for himself | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
one of the biggest threats facing the Amazon. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
And so he's travelled over the border to Brazil. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
About three hours on this road now. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
What's getting me is the... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
..the scale of the deforestation here. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Well, it's not deforestation, it's annihilation. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
It's just massacred this place in every direction, as far as I can see. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
It's hard to imagine these endless fields were once full of life. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
And it's all been wiped out to accommodate just one animal. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
COW LOWS | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
Charlie's going to spend the next couple of weeks on Dino's farm. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
Compared to most ranches in Brazil, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
300 head of cattle is tiny. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
But Dino still needs the help of all four of his sons | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
when it comes to vaccinating this year's calves. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Ah! You're so desperate to see me fail, aren't you? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
CALF LOWS | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
It's kind of like playing rugby, but cattle rugby. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
It's crazy. | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
Take one of the world's most complex ecosystems | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
with the highest diversity of animal life on Earth | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
and, you know, you reduce it to this... | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Grass. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:13 | |
Doesn't really get more basic than that, does it? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Since 1970, over 140 million acres of rainforest | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
have been destroyed in Brazil, just to raise cattle. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
But once the big trees have been removed, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
there are no nutrients from the leaf litter | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
and no shade from the canopy, so the land slowly dies. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:43 | |
The easiest way to keep the farm going | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
is to destroy more forest. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Dino's sons have selected an area | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
they're going to burn down in the next few days. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
It's going to be quite a big operation, they're telling me. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
I think even they're nervous about it, it's so big. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
I can hear a screaming pea heart, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
which is an amazing-sounding rainforest bird. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Oh, can you hear that? That is the classic sound of the rainforest. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
That's... | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
That's the sound. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
I'm going to stop because I don't want to cry in front of these guys. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
It's weird, isn't it? It's the sound that's killing me, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
not the... Not what I can see. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
It's the sound of that crappy little brown bird. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
The Brazilian forestry code | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
is considered by many environmentalists to be a joke. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
Though 80% of private land is supposed to remain forest, | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
the law is largely ignored. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
Is it dangerous? | 0:27:20 | 0:27:21 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
It already looks apocalyptic. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
I can't imagine what it's going to look like when it's on fire. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
It's completely normal to them. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
This is like, you know, using Excel | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
or doing photocopying in an office to them. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
And I'm worrying about a piddly 100 acres. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
It does put it into perspective. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Just being in Brazil makes me realise how pathetic | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
and insignificant my bit of land is. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Trees that produce oxygen | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
have been replaced by cows that produce methane. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
And the damage this does globally | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
is far greater than the pollution | 0:28:45 | 0:28:46 | |
caused by every engine in every car on the planet. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
Totally irrelevant what I think, you know, | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
when I'm worrying about it or depressed about it, it's rubbish. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
You know, I just think, "Screw me, screw what I think." | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
There's a big problem here. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
Whether I'm depressed about it or not... | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
the problem is still here. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
30 years ago, Dino came to the Amazon as a landless peasant. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
At the time, the Brazilian Government was giving away chunks of the rainforest | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
to anyone brave enough to tackle this new frontier. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
This is my kind of farming, herbs. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
You've got everything. You've got coriander! | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
Mm! That's really good! | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
How do you kill the pig? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
So, you hold it down and...? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
Does it make a lot of noise? | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
-Meh! -Meh! | 0:30:17 | 0:30:18 | |
CHARLIE LAUGHS | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
I don't know why I'm laughing. I don't want to do it. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Are we going to do it now? | 0:30:39 | 0:30:40 | |
SQUEALING | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
(Ohhhh!) | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
That's actually just... It's completely freaked me out. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
We were just wandering in the garden | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
and then suddenly, we're smacking a pig over the head with a hammer. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
That's so weird. Really, really weird experience. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
I don't know why, it's so normal. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
I'm a human. I should be able to kill a pig. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
Why hang around? We were going to kill a pig, let's kill a pig! | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
He's definitely the boss. He's almost like a sort of mafia boss. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
And his sons all do what they're told. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
But to run Dino's kind of business, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
which is hard and needs serious labour, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
to have four strong sons in their 20s and 30s is ideal for him. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
ANIMATED CHATTER | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
But not only that, this place is lawless. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
This is the Wild West. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:49 | |
So to have that level of protection, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
-I -think, is exactly what he needs. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
No-one is going to mess with his family. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Not like this. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:53 | |
Lots of people would be horrified at what you're doing. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
Because people don't like chopping down the forest. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
It's a weird feeling I'm having today. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
I feel...I feel like a bit of a fraud. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
So my brain is telling me, | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
you know, this is wrong, I should say something, | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
but on the other hand, they're some of the nicest people I have ever met. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Everyone is happy and smiling all the time. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
And... | 0:33:39 | 0:33:40 | |
Oh, God, look! There's another beautiful tree. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
You going to cut this one down? | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
Why not? | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Obrigado. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
There is some hope. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
I'm going to have to man up a bit, aren't I? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
I'm going to have to do some man work. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
These guys must think I'm so weird, not knowing how to do this. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
Yeah! | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
Oh, the seal of approval! | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
This is what all of this is all about. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:19 | |
A hunk of meat. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
And the amount of rainforest that goes into this... | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
is pretty astonishing. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
When you look at all the products that the forest gets cut down for, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
they're all luxury products. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:33 | |
Cocaine, gold, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
high-quality Brazilian beef, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
mahogany. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:41 | |
All these things are luxury products. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
They're not products that anyone round here particularly, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
you know, is desperate for or needs to survive. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
They're all getting shipped off around the world. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
To us, really. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
ANIMATED CHATTER | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
It's so fatty, it's so good! | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
I bought some land in Peru. Only 100 acres. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
And there's a guy living on it | 0:37:26 | 0:37:27 | |
and he seems to be still cutting it down. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
What do you think I should do with it? | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
His dad owned it. He grew up there, he's been there all his life. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
And I kind of feel like a rich gringo is coming along | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
and pushing him off his land. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Even though it's mine. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Si. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:32 | |
No-one looks after it. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
That's why I'm trying to work out what to do with it at the moment. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
We shouldn't live in a world where Dino has to do this | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
to get himself out of poverty. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
And that's why it's not his fault. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
There's absolutely not a single shred of blame in me | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
for anything that he or his family do here. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
Which surprises me. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
Would I cut down the Amazon if I was in his position? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
I don't know. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:14 | |
To feed my sons. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Christ, if my kids... I suppose if my kids were starving | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
and I had to do it and I had to provide for them and I lived here, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
then, yes, I suppose I probably would. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
Hola! | 0:40:50 | 0:40:51 | |
ANIMATED CHATTER | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
Everyone's desperate for me to light the fire. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
CHARLIE LAUGHS | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
No, you do it. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
You're the expert! | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
Whoa! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:26 | |
That quick and that simple. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
WHOOPING | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
Already I can feel the heat coming off that thing | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
and it's about 50 feet away. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
Everyone's getting the hell out. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
Oh, no, he's not, he's going in to start some more. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
BIRDSONG | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
FLAMES ROAR | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Do you know, the more I see this stuff, | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
the less value I put on my land. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
I just think..."What's the point?" | 0:44:32 | 0:44:36 | |
You look at what Dino has burnt down. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
A much larger area than my bit of land. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
The scale of this place is unbelievable. It's... | 0:44:50 | 0:44:53 | |
It's almost impossible to show the scale, the enormity of this place. | 0:44:55 | 0:45:00 | |
Just the drive to get here. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:03 | |
And I've got this piddly little pinhead of land. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
You just think, "What's the point?" | 0:45:08 | 0:45:10 | |
I mean, at the very basic level, buying my land was utterly pointless. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:20 | |
Yeah. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:04 | |
We've got loads of money sloshing around doing nothing, | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
even though we're in a recession. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
There's still billions of pounds being chucked into the wrong areas. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:15 | |
Where I come from, you know, everyone knows the problems, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
but the most people do... | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
is feel bad about it. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
They don't do anything else. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:32 | |
Yeah. No, I get that. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
And that's why I don't blame you guys. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
-I grew up being told that these -BLEEP -are cutting down the Amazon. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
And then I meet you, I meet your family | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
and you're some of the nicest people I've ever met. | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
And, er... I take it all back. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:18 | |
But it changes my view on everything. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
Perhaps it's to be expected | 0:47:40 | 0:47:42 | |
that in the badlands of Brazil's Wild West, | 0:47:42 | 0:47:45 | |
one of the devils burning down the Amazon would tell Charlie | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
that he has to keep fighting to save the rainforest. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
After all, Dino knows better than anyone what we're losing. | 0:47:54 | 0:47:59 | |
It's a great big responsibility that I've landed myself with. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
And personally, I think it would be irresponsible for me, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:08 | |
now that I've taken on this burden, to walk away from it. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:12 | |
It's absurd how much money human beings will spend | 0:48:17 | 0:48:21 | |
on destroying the planet and how little we'll pay to save it. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
You could buy the whole Amazon | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
with the money Britain spends on the military in just three years. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
But if you buy the rainforest, | 0:48:37 | 0:48:38 | |
what are you going to do with all the people? | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
With only a few weeks before he has to return home, | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
Charlie tries to get to know the very man he has seen as the enemy. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
A man who has spent his entire life cutting down the forest. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Right there, and then looking up the path, yeah? | 0:48:57 | 0:49:01 | |
-Ah, yeah, yeah. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
Elias, you asked me what I do, well, this is what I do. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
I film wildlife, I film animals, | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
I take photos of animals. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:09 | |
And back in England, I sell those pictures. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:11 | |
And that's how I make my living. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:13 | |
OK, Elias, rather than me sticking it up, | 0:49:17 | 0:49:21 | |
I want you to do it. Here you go. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:22 | |
Hm. Yeah. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:24 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:49:24 | 0:49:25 | |
I can't wait to see your results. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
I suppose I knew Elias by reputation before I knew the man. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:36 | |
And, um... So the first encounters with him, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
I was always... I was always scared, I suppose. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
I don't know why, looking back at it now. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
But the more I've got to know him, the more I like him. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:50 | |
He's... He's a good guy. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:53 | |
Ah! Well done! It's there. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:58 | |
Really good, Elias. | 0:49:58 | 0:49:59 | |
Ah, yeah, look at that. Yeah, yeah. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
You gave them some yucca. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
Yeah, perfect. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
OK, Elias, let's see what you've got. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
Ah, there we go, look at that! | 0:50:17 | 0:50:19 | |
CHARLIE LAUGHS | 0:50:23 | 0:50:24 | |
You nailed it. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
That's your first wildlife shot, Elias. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
One of the things I think I've learnt about the rainforest | 0:50:34 | 0:50:38 | |
-is that all the -BLEEP -that are destroying it... | 0:50:38 | 0:50:42 | |
..every single one of those that I've met are nice people. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
-They're not -BLEEP -at all. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:50 | |
Hola! | 0:50:53 | 0:50:54 | |
It's good to see you guys again. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
Como estas, Elias? Bet you're glad you're not working today. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
Up here? | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
Wow! | 0:51:06 | 0:51:07 | |
Ah! Well done, Elias! | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
Yeah. Well done, Elias. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:21 | |
My photography a year ago was 100% animals. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
And now...it's 95% people. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:39 | |
I've gone through this whole process of understanding people. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
People I never really liked and wasn't that interested in. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
And I've realised that people ARE the solution. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
And that is a monumental change in me. | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
After nearly a year in Peru, | 0:52:13 | 0:52:15 | |
Charlie has finally realised | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
that the way to protect his land is to invest in people. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
When I first came here, all I wanted to do, to be really honest, | 0:52:26 | 0:52:30 | |
was get you off the land | 0:52:30 | 0:52:32 | |
and try and stop any logging, any hunting, any activity on it. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:38 | |
I just wanted it to stop. And that was... | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
That's what I wanted to do at first. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:43 | |
I don't want to sound horrible for saying that, | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
but you were, to me, the big problem. Yeah? | 0:52:45 | 0:52:49 | |
So I suppose the big thing I realised | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
was that you are also part of the solution. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
And this was the key thing I realised. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
And...that's why, if I want to try | 0:52:56 | 0:53:02 | |
and make that land good land again, make it good forest again, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
I need you to help me. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:07 | |
So what this all boils down to, Elias, is me making you an offer. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
I want you to re-forest that land, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:18 | |
to re-plant the trees in it. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:20 | |
And for doing that, I will pay you | 0:53:20 | 0:53:24 | |
slightly more than you get from your yucca | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
and your illegal logging activities. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:28 | |
And it's up to you to think, "Right, do I want that? | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
"Do I want to work five days a week for this guy?" | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
Can you do it? Do you want to do it? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
You see, Elias, you're an expert on trees. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
LAUGHING: I couldn't ask for someone better to be doing it. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:06 | |
I think we can take that place and we can make it something special. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:25 | |
And, you know, in my ideal world, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
something that YOU could be proud of | 0:54:28 | 0:54:31 | |
to see growing rather than cutting it down. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Yeah, I'm pretty chuffed. | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
I'm trepidatious. I'm not stupid. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:45 | |
There's a very high chance of failure. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
But I'm not going to let that cloud my excitement | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
about the whole idea of Elias working with me. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
And, yes, it might fail, but I do trust him. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:59 | |
As well as paying Elias, Charlie is going to bring in experts | 0:55:00 | 0:55:05 | |
who understand how to restore damaged rainforest. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
Look at that! A little rainforest there. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
They're going to plant a mixture of hardwoods | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
and fast-growing softwoods, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
as well as bananas and other crops that can grow alongside the trees | 0:55:36 | 0:55:41 | |
and provide Elias with a second income. | 0:55:41 | 0:55:44 | |
With any luck, he'll be self-sufficient within five years. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
I think the thing about this is it's so simple and symbolic, | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
planting trees, but it's who I'm with here today doing it. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
And...I'm doing this with Elias and THAT'S the key to this. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
Not putting trees in the ground and letting trees grow, it's who I'm doing it with. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
Come on, Elias, give me a hand. We'll do it together. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
We've got a lot more of these to go, Elias. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
We've got a whole rainforest to plant. We can't stop now. | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:56:21 | 0:56:23 | |
Well done! Muy bien! | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Charlie didn't find a way to protect the national park, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
but in this corner of the Amazon, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
he has already made a difference. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:44 | |
Watching Heydi and Elias, | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
I felt quite proud. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:58 | |
I suppose it hits me in a... | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
..sort of, um...a very happy way. | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
Because it was a very nice moment to watch. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:18 | |
But there was something really wretched about it... | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
..as well. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:24 | |
Because it's not solving a massive problem, | 0:57:27 | 0:57:31 | |
it's solving a very tiny problem. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
And it hasn't even solved it yet. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:35 | |
But...I feel like at least I'm doing something, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
even if it's just one tiny, small thing, which this is. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
All we can do is hope, isn't it? | 0:57:50 | 0:57:52 | |
-Actually, no, that's -BLEEP. -It's not all we can do is hope. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:56 | |
We can get off our arses and do something. | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
ANIMALS CHITTER | 0:58:00 | 0:58:04 | |
Go on an interactive journey with the Open University | 0:58:30 | 0:58:33 | |
to explore the challenges facing the rainforest. | 0:58:33 | 0:58:37 | |
Go to... | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
..and follow the links to the Open University. | 0:58:42 | 0:58:45 | |
# I'm going to fight them all | 0:58:50 | 0:58:53 | |
# A seven nation army couldn't hold me back | 0:58:55 | 0:58:59 | |
# And I'm talking to myself at night | 0:59:00 | 0:59:04 | |
# Because I can't forget... # | 0:59:04 | 0:59:07 |