Episode 2 Springwatch Unsprung

Episode 2

Live audience-led informal discussion and debate. Martin Hughes-Games chairs as Kate Humble, Chris Packham and Iolo Williams answer audience questions.

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Some of you felt something was missing from Springwatch. Some of


you, well it's important to you. Tonight, for one night only, my


spectacles, thank you very much. APPLAUSE


The buffing cloth. And now, we're ready for everything,


even including Unsprung. Good evening!


We are sitting here panting. Welcome to Unsprung. What is


Unsprung? It's where we pant a lot. We are Unsprung. It's where we


answer your questions, look at your pictures and videos and throw in


extra things as well who. Is in the house tonight? We have a big


audience here. We have. Look at them ought. It's huge. Did we go to


the Jobcentre? Dodgy characters as well. Level-headed Joe.


APPLAUSE She's standing by to receive your


questions, more information anything you want to talk about,


get in contact with Jo. Can we get a wave from Lynsey. Thank you for


our dipper stuff. Yeah, fantastic dipper material.


APPLAUSE Top stuff. Let's hope this works.


We start with a little quiz. Tonight's quiz has a twist. These


are photographs of creatures that live on us. I hope people in the


audience, where are they? Down there. Person A, what animal is


living on you? That's A. Now person B, what animal is living on person


B? I hope not. Person C, please hold it up. Oh, dear! And finally D,


can you hold up D, Jo! I so hope not. So that's A, B, C and D, get


your answers in now. Is Iolo with us still? Are you there? Yes, I am.


I can hear you loud and clear. You've got none of those things


living on you. We're back with you in a second. Hang on please. We


have coasters, where are the coasters? These have been sent in,


can you hold them up please, Kate, Amy Whitewick has sent us lovely


coasters to put our cups of tea. Our cups of tea that we never get


to drink because we're too busy. The tea is stone cold. There's mine.


Thank you very much. Martin there's yours. Beautiful. My favourite


animal too. That's a stoat. Thank you, very much indeed. Those are


stunning. I'm not putting that miserable cup of tea on it though.


Straight away a very good question. Charlotte McWilliam, oh, where is


it, come on find it. She said, "I ate a double yoked egg for my lunch.


If it had been fertilised would two chicks have grown from the one egg,


who thinks that the chicks, two chicks would have hatched out?


Anyone thinks they would have hatched out? Not many. Who thinks


they wouldn't have hatched out? More think they wouldn't. Over to


our expert. It is very interesting, in fact, I had an extraordinary


morning one morning when I went to collect my chicken eggs and I


cracked open one and it was a triple yoker. -- yolker. I didn't


know the answer. But I did check with the BTO. They said that


actually they will hatch out. So anyone who put their hands up and


said they will hatch out, so sometimes they come across this


very confusing thing where they see four eggs in a nest and suddenly...


Blackbirds. Yes, and there will be five chicks. There you R I hope


that answers your questions. Can we quickly see the picture of a happy


I vent that happened at Kate's house, I think only this morning.


have got them here. So, I've got Aylesbury ducks and we put some of


the eggs in an incubator and... That little event started this


morning and lovely Paul Carter who is looking aafter my house at the


moment, sent me this photograph and then this... How adorable is that?


How wrong is Chris Packham? It's not a pure bred species though. If


it were a harl Quinn or Eider... It's mine and that's all that


matters. If anyone wants to think of a name for the new little duck


let us know. Now... What? Elle. Very good. Excellent. Chris this is


from Susie 882, my favourite question, "What do female bats do


with their babies when they hunt? Do they carry them or just hang


them up somewhere?" Great question. Actually, when they give birth they


initially nurse them and they don't hunt. They stop feeding for a while.


The bats are obviously hanging up with them and they're suckling them


in there. Then in some species they have nursery roost, where they


normally give birth to their young, in a specified place. Extra females


take care of the youngsters whilst they forage and replenish their


energys. They will hunt with the baby? They leave the baby behind


with the other bats hung up in the nursery roost. My friend said they


go flying with them. Yeah, they do. Some of the females in some roots


have nurseries where they leave them behind. Like nanny bats.


Fantastic question. Shall we look at some beauty? A quick bit of


beauty. We get so many Flikr photographs. We never do them


APPLAUSE Impressed? Some of them were quite


good, yes. LAUGHTER


Yeah OK. I liked one with all the dew over the head of the insect. It


wasn't symmetrical... But nevertheless an interesting concept


that I'm going rip off later. go to Iolo, I don't know if you can


hear me, this is a question, after Monday's programme, I got tweeted


by Jeanette Millward who said, because you showed us angel wings


and said that the black bat girls had nailed the Manx Shearwaters.


What she wants to know is this - oh, wrong question! I'll get there in


the end. How does a Manx Shearwater become the victim of a black bat


girl when they're nocturnal and they can't hunt at night? Good


question. Yes they are mainly nocturnal, but they will arrive off


the island before it's fully dark. If you get moon light the black


gulls will hunt them then. They will put their heads down entrance


to burrows. Sometimes sheer waters come out to the entrance, if they


time that time that incorrectly they end up as food. This island is


scattered with angel wings. There's the answer then. That was a great


question. Thank you Iolo. Right, here's some now it's a bit ropey,


this footage, sorry, Anthony Allen and Kate Tomkins, who I've just


insulted quite badly - but it's robins doing something very


unusually. Have a lock at this: Look at this: We have called this


This is Kate's footage. We saw the green wood peckers during that


strange dancing. Sort of Vogueing. Yeah, now we've been sent this.


There's communication going on between those two. I've not seen


this. There's a great book you can refer to by David Lack, who studied


them for a long time. They are very aggressive birds. So there's one or


two things. This is prior to fighting, two Robyns seeing who is


toughest. Or it could be a male and female. Male and females look the


same. You can't sex them in the field. It could be a male


displaying it a feel mail. I'm going to plump for the latter. When


I see robins fighting they don't bother with preamble. The signs


they are able to read are so subtle that they can go immediately into a


frenzied bout of fighting, if they're evenly matched. Should we


have an ask the audience. They might know a bit about birds?


Anyone with any thoughts? mentioned David Lack I was taught


by his son Andrew. Yeah, I think I've been told that they have UV


cryptic chests like a lot of other birds. I just wonder whether they


could be perhaps showing off that in some way because although they


all look the same and have the same red chests, they actually are


subtly different. I don't know, I'll throw that into the ring.


APPLAUSE Very good. That is our top geeky


story developer there. Thank you very much.


He's won an award already. He's heading for another one. Last week,


I promised you a lynx in the studio. Royston? Hold on. It's the best I


could do. That's rubbish. Unfortunately I failed. But we've


got something better. So now if everyone can be quite quiet again,


please, could Pauline please come in, where are you? Just outside.


Where do we want Pauline to go? I'll sit on the edge. Kate can you


talk to Pauline. I can. Love to talk to Pauline. We hope this is


going to work. In you come. look at that! If we can just, I


know everyone wants to go aawww. We need to be very quiet. Yes, if you


would. Tell me about this little creature. This is a little one


we've had in nearly a fortnight now. She's just about eight weeks old.


She's still on the bottle, but starting to take fish. She's a baby


otter. But how on earth did you come to get her? We are a rescue


centre and she actually just turned up in somebody's shed during the


day. One of our release managers went down and quite rightly put her


in a cage and waited in case mum turned up. But she didn't. We've


been looking after her. We have heard there was an otter found


killed on the road. It's likely that it was mum, but she was a long


way from a waterway. We have to think of these things when these


animals come in. It was very important that you did watch her


through the day, because mum could have come back. Absolutely. That's


the thing with wildlife, a lot of them get picked up too early. It is


important to see, to give them the chance to go back with mum. Eight


weeks old. You're bottle feeding her. You're handling her. Is there


any chance she's going to get back to the wild? Absolutely. That's why


we do it. It's a long rehab programme of 18 months. We copy the


time the mother would normally chase them away. We have pens with


ponds in. She will go into a pen with eight metre pools and we try


to rear them in pairs and no doubt, another one will come along. People


are surprised how big they are. Aren't they. Only eight weeks old


and she is a really robust baby. And just to have this privilege to


really get a good look at an otter. Can we see some of these features.


The fantastic tail, which is a third of the body and so important


for them for swimming. The fact that they've got these wonderful


webbed feet which help is really great. That fabulously thick fur


insulating them. You can't experience this, but I can, that


wonderful musky smell. Absolutely. She's absolutely gorgeous. Thank


sow much for bringing her in and What's she called? Tan. We try to


give them water names. That was very special. Thank you. Thank you.


You never know, do you, but she was calm. It's a lovely story that.


Everything worked well and she's going to go back to the wild.


other otter is called Cistern and it's leaking everywhere! OK, next


question. You are You are rubbish! While we are at it... No, we are


not not being nasty about the watch any more. What is it? It's high


fashion, you wouldn't get it. being disingenious here, because


your daughter loves that watch. can love it as much as she wants.


If she goes to a fairground and plays with one of those things


where you put a pound in and grabs something, she might get one as


well. Later! Serious thing. This is from Pat, having seen all the


toadlets in last night's programme and hearing kphepb about black


birds taking them made me think about something in our garden, a


black bird took a shrew. Birds condition be readily available. I


suppose it phus be needs must. rare event. Predators of any kind


always want to pick on things they can overcome without the risk of


injury, because if they're injured in any way, any simple way, the


next time they go huping they might be at a disadvantage. The balance


of nature is so fine that that disadvantage means they won't be


hunting effectively. A black bird can easily murder a worm or a slug


but there's always a risk of getting bitten by a shrew. It might


get infected, it's a risky proposition. We don't see this an


but occasionally we might. I spoke to the BTO and they say our black


birds are in trouble and that might be happening because it's so dry


they can't get worms so that's why. People at home, you can help our


black birds. You can put out these. Meal worms, they like them. Even


better if you can do them live, actually. You can get them live.


You can go on to the internet and buy live ones and they're great.


They wriggle and scare your mum. You can also open your compost heap.


What about the grass snakes though? Cancel that last idea!


Our black birds are in trouble. Body weight is down to less than


100 grams. Iolo is back with us. had a question from Sue and she


actually asked exactly what you explained, how do the puffins


manage to hold the sand eels in their beaks, thanks for that. She


also said, why are their beaks so fantastically colourful? What is it


for? Well, the beaks are fantastically


colourful because it's used in courtship. They use that beak. The


male and female puffin come together and they'll fence, they'll


nibble and use that and it's also a sign of just how healthy the bird


is. So, a female puffin seeing a male puffin with a whacking great


big colourful blue, red and yellow bill is going to think, that's the


chap for me. He is in peak condition. He is the strongest,


biggest puffin around. That's what that beak does. Brilliant.


Fantastic. Thank you very much. you showed us the shearwaters, down


the burrow. We might be able to top that. We might be able to go live


now down a puffin's burrow. Let's see if this is going to work. It's


a bit dodgy, but she's asleep down there. We can probably speak live,


I hope, to the person who put the camera down, because that's in


Shetland. Helen, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Hello. This is Helen


from the RSPB in shuthand. -- Shetland. How did you get the


camera down? We managed to find a burrow with two entrances a little


down the cliff. We managed to get a small camera and secure is in using


it. When did you put the camera in, ahead of them coming back in, I


suppose? We hid it in place last We can look at footage you recorded.


Here is the puffin itself. Can you tell us, are these the same puffins


back to the same burrow? They do return each year. So you know these


two? Have they laid an egg down there? They have, yes. Do they take


it in turns, they come and go into the burrow? That's right. They've


shared responsibility so the mum and dad take turns. It's a 40-day


incubation period. So you know when the egg is going to hatch? We are


expecting it somewhere in the 17th June. We might just be able to see


that. We are off air on 16th. Hello, Helen! If we get one


hatching that will be fantastic. Let's move on quickly. We have


something dear to your heart. We have some art. I will move over.


Let's all go over and see this. Hello, Kate. Kate, a lady who uses


natural fabrics in the form of feathers to make exquisite works of


art. Combining nature with a human device. Which is the one you have


made for us? This over here, inspired by your programme last


week, where you showed a Jay feather and also the features on


otter. It's beautiful. What is so amazing is just the feathers seem


to take on a totally different texture. Do you go out shooting a


lot, sorry, how do you get hold of these wonderful feathers? These


over here are pigeon feathers. I have about 200 people over the UK


who are pigeon fanciers, I write to them and send them photographs of


what I am going to do and they send me moulted feathers twice a year in


April and and October. Fantastic. The other sorts of feathers, - can


we have a look at this one. It's fantastic. If you rotate that in


front of the camera, does it change colour? Is that the mallard? Yes.


Fascinated by the fact it's a common bird we see all the time and


it's this miraculous colour. We had somebody who contacted the


programme and asked why British birds were so dull in colour and


all you have to do is look at that. Look at the Jay and the mallard and


realise they're anything but. Didn't you also keep in contact


with game-keepers as well and they provide you with feathers? Yes, I


did a project last year, game birds would have been shot and cooked in


the kitchen of Tatten Park. So they lived on in your... Can we look at


more of Kate's work. Some of the pieces, which are particularly


large, some of the larger pieces need to be seen. This is the Tatten


Park piece. Mostly tpezant, quail. What about this one? This is magpie.


Tail feathers? These were wing feathers. This is crow. How many


feathers did you use in that one? Can you remember? Something lying


20,000 feathers. How long did it take? It took me about four years


to collect enough feathers to make that piece. It was from game-


keepers who control the bird population on their farms. Did you


sketch it out, the idea first? Have you stuck them on to


something? Yes. So you have built a frame? A form. That's about four


metres long. It's sensational. a shame we couldn't have it in here.


Thank you very much indeed. Who is going to have that one then? Later!


Fight you for it! Thank you so much for bringing them in. They're


fabulous. APPLAUSE.


That's a challenge. Caroline, from the RSPB here, I think you should


start collecting feathers for Kate and then maybe she can build an


installation for you guys here. would be fantastic. If anyone at


home, we love it, if you are inspired by any of the artists we


show, get out there and make something and take a photo and send


it to us. I am going to do one quickly, excuse me, right Robin


wrote how do lizards detach their tails and does it hurt? OK, I don't


know whether it hurts but it's called autoony and it's under


nervous control, they have a weakening in the tail, it doesn't


split between two vertbrae, they decide, a muscle activates and


shatters the vertbrae, the muscle blocks detach. A nervous programme


is switched on in the tail that's detached to wriggle about to detach


a predator. All that happens in a split second. Most species can grow


a stump back, not a perfect tail, not just lizards, crustaceons. Even


if spiders lose a leg they can, when they next moult. I want to


look at this. Can Iolo see what we see? It's a little test. I can see


bits of them. Vince has sent us a video of something that happened in


his bird box. OK. Have a look at It's obviously a dispute here with


two blue tits. Like a blue tit boxing ring in there. This is blue


tit cage fighting. Got you! could make a lot of money out of


this chaps. It's just a dispute over a box involving probably two


males there fighting over ownership of that box and the successful one,


I would imagine, would then have got a female and would have built a


nest. I still reckon we can make money out of that! Who was the guy


that sent that? I have lost it now. It was Vince. Clearly you have a


very lovely bird box there. We have to watch this programme, pole


dancing and cage fighting. My nine- year-old daughter, questions about


hedgehogs, do they lose their prickles, are baby hedgehogs born


with prickles and do old hedgehogs turn grey? Have a look at this


picture. Baby hedgehog. It's here. There it is. Look, they're by a 10


10p coin. I would suggest hedgehogs don't give birth to their young


with spines. 50% of the audience have been through that process, and


it would be too painful. They have them held beneath the skin and the


follicles break and they begin to develop immediately. They don't


lose them. They're actually made of fur. They're a modified type of fur


and they will stay with the hedgehog throughout its life.


Individual spines are shed and they regrow new ones and to the best of


my knowledge and I have seen a few in my time, they don't go grey at


the end of they've life. -- their life. Now the quiz. What's


happening? Few people have got it completely right. It's reassuring


really that they don't know what they are. But Rich on Twitter and


Rose. What is A, please. It's a tick. B? It's a human flea. C is


the eyelash mite. Most ladies in this room will have them. The make-


up means they can't escape from underneath the eyelashes and


they're common in women. What have you got pubiclice. We want to


celebrate wildlife champions. If you are a wildlife champion and


Springwatch Unsprung is back with more audience-led informal live discussion and debate.

Martin Hughes-Games chairs as Kate Humble, Chris Packham and Iolo Williams answer audience questions and give in-depth analysis on what the season's wildlife is up to.

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