Episode 2 Springwatch Unsprung


Episode 2

Live audience-led informal discussion and debate. Martin Hughes-Games chairs as Kate Humble, Chris Packham and Iolo Williams answer audience questions.


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Some of you felt something was missing from Springwatch. Some of

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you, well it's important to you. Tonight, for one night only, my

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spectacles, thank you very much. APPLAUSE

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The buffing cloth. And now, we're ready for everything,

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even including Unsprung. Good evening!

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We are sitting here panting. Welcome to Unsprung. What is

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Unsprung? It's where we pant a lot. We are Unsprung. It's where we

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answer your questions, look at your pictures and videos and throw in

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extra things as well who. Is in the house tonight? We have a big

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audience here. We have. Look at them ought. It's huge. Did we go to

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the Jobcentre? Dodgy characters as well. Level-headed Joe.

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APPLAUSE She's standing by to receive your

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questions, more information anything you want to talk about,

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get in contact with Jo. Can we get a wave from Lynsey. Thank you for

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our dipper stuff. Yeah, fantastic dipper material.

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APPLAUSE Top stuff. Let's hope this works.

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We start with a little quiz. Tonight's quiz has a twist. These

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are photographs of creatures that live on us. I hope people in the

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audience, where are they? Down there. Person A, what animal is

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living on you? That's A. Now person B, what animal is living on person

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B? I hope not. Person C, please hold it up. Oh, dear! And finally D,

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can you hold up D, Jo! I so hope not. So that's A, B, C and D, get

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your answers in now. Is Iolo with us still? Are you there? Yes, I am.

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I can hear you loud and clear. You've got none of those things

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living on you. We're back with you in a second. Hang on please. We

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have coasters, where are the coasters? These have been sent in,

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can you hold them up please, Kate, Amy Whitewick has sent us lovely

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coasters to put our cups of tea. Our cups of tea that we never get

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to drink because we're too busy. The tea is stone cold. There's mine.

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Thank you very much. Martin there's yours. Beautiful. My favourite

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animal too. That's a stoat. Thank you, very much indeed. Those are

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stunning. I'm not putting that miserable cup of tea on it though.

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Straight away a very good question. Charlotte McWilliam, oh, where is

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it, come on find it. She said, "I ate a double yoked egg for my lunch.

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If it had been fertilised would two chicks have grown from the one egg,

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who thinks that the chicks, two chicks would have hatched out?

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Anyone thinks they would have hatched out? Not many. Who thinks

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they wouldn't have hatched out? More think they wouldn't. Over to

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our expert. It is very interesting, in fact, I had an extraordinary

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morning one morning when I went to collect my chicken eggs and I

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cracked open one and it was a triple yoker. -- yolker. I didn't

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know the answer. But I did check with the BTO. They said that

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actually they will hatch out. So anyone who put their hands up and

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said they will hatch out, so sometimes they come across this

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very confusing thing where they see four eggs in a nest and suddenly...

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Blackbirds. Yes, and there will be five chicks. There you R I hope

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that answers your questions. Can we quickly see the picture of a happy

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I vent that happened at Kate's house, I think only this morning.

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have got them here. So, I've got Aylesbury ducks and we put some of

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the eggs in an incubator and... That little event started this

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morning and lovely Paul Carter who is looking aafter my house at the

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moment, sent me this photograph and then this... How adorable is that?

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How wrong is Chris Packham? It's not a pure bred species though. If

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it were a harl Quinn or Eider... It's mine and that's all that

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matters. If anyone wants to think of a name for the new little duck

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let us know. Now... What? Elle. Very good. Excellent. Chris this is

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from Susie 882, my favourite question, "What do female bats do

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with their babies when they hunt? Do they carry them or just hang

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them up somewhere?" Great question. Actually, when they give birth they

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initially nurse them and they don't hunt. They stop feeding for a while.

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The bats are obviously hanging up with them and they're suckling them

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in there. Then in some species they have nursery roost, where they

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normally give birth to their young, in a specified place. Extra females

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take care of the youngsters whilst they forage and replenish their

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energys. They will hunt with the baby? They leave the baby behind

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with the other bats hung up in the nursery roost. My friend said they

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go flying with them. Yeah, they do. Some of the females in some roots

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have nurseries where they leave them behind. Like nanny bats.

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Fantastic question. Shall we look at some beauty? A quick bit of

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beauty. We get so many Flikr photographs. We never do them

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APPLAUSE Impressed? Some of them were quite

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good, yes. LAUGHTER

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Yeah OK. I liked one with all the dew over the head of the insect. It

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wasn't symmetrical... But nevertheless an interesting concept

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that I'm going rip off later. go to Iolo, I don't know if you can

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hear me, this is a question, after Monday's programme, I got tweeted

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by Jeanette Millward who said, because you showed us angel wings

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and said that the black bat girls had nailed the Manx Shearwaters.

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What she wants to know is this - oh, wrong question! I'll get there in

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the end. How does a Manx Shearwater become the victim of a black bat

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girl when they're nocturnal and they can't hunt at night? Good

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question. Yes they are mainly nocturnal, but they will arrive off

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the island before it's fully dark. If you get moon light the black

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gulls will hunt them then. They will put their heads down entrance

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to burrows. Sometimes sheer waters come out to the entrance, if they

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time that time that incorrectly they end up as food. This island is

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scattered with angel wings. There's the answer then. That was a great

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question. Thank you Iolo. Right, here's some now it's a bit ropey,

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this footage, sorry, Anthony Allen and Kate Tomkins, who I've just

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insulted quite badly - but it's robins doing something very

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unusually. Have a lock at this: Look at this: We have called this

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This is Kate's footage. We saw the green wood peckers during that

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strange dancing. Sort of Vogueing. Yeah, now we've been sent this.

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There's communication going on between those two. I've not seen

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this. There's a great book you can refer to by David Lack, who studied

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them for a long time. They are very aggressive birds. So there's one or

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two things. This is prior to fighting, two Robyns seeing who is

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toughest. Or it could be a male and female. Male and females look the

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same. You can't sex them in the field. It could be a male

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displaying it a feel mail. I'm going to plump for the latter. When

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I see robins fighting they don't bother with preamble. The signs

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they are able to read are so subtle that they can go immediately into a

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frenzied bout of fighting, if they're evenly matched. Should we

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have an ask the audience. They might know a bit about birds?

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Anyone with any thoughts? mentioned David Lack I was taught

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by his son Andrew. Yeah, I think I've been told that they have UV

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cryptic chests like a lot of other birds. I just wonder whether they

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could be perhaps showing off that in some way because although they

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all look the same and have the same red chests, they actually are

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subtly different. I don't know, I'll throw that into the ring.

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APPLAUSE Very good. That is our top geeky

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story developer there. Thank you very much.

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He's won an award already. He's heading for another one. Last week,

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I promised you a lynx in the studio. Royston? Hold on. It's the best I

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could do. That's rubbish. Unfortunately I failed. But we've

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got something better. So now if everyone can be quite quiet again,

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please, could Pauline please come in, where are you? Just outside.

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Where do we want Pauline to go? I'll sit on the edge. Kate can you

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talk to Pauline. I can. Love to talk to Pauline. We hope this is

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going to work. In you come. look at that! If we can just, I

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know everyone wants to go aawww. We need to be very quiet. Yes, if you

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would. Tell me about this little creature. This is a little one

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we've had in nearly a fortnight now. She's just about eight weeks old.

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She's still on the bottle, but starting to take fish. She's a baby

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otter. But how on earth did you come to get her? We are a rescue

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centre and she actually just turned up in somebody's shed during the

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day. One of our release managers went down and quite rightly put her

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in a cage and waited in case mum turned up. But she didn't. We've

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been looking after her. We have heard there was an otter found

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killed on the road. It's likely that it was mum, but she was a long

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way from a waterway. We have to think of these things when these

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animals come in. It was very important that you did watch her

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through the day, because mum could have come back. Absolutely. That's

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the thing with wildlife, a lot of them get picked up too early. It is

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important to see, to give them the chance to go back with mum. Eight

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weeks old. You're bottle feeding her. You're handling her. Is there

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any chance she's going to get back to the wild? Absolutely. That's why

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we do it. It's a long rehab programme of 18 months. We copy the

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time the mother would normally chase them away. We have pens with

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ponds in. She will go into a pen with eight metre pools and we try

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to rear them in pairs and no doubt, another one will come along. People

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are surprised how big they are. Aren't they. Only eight weeks old

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and she is a really robust baby. And just to have this privilege to

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really get a good look at an otter. Can we see some of these features.

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The fantastic tail, which is a third of the body and so important

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for them for swimming. The fact that they've got these wonderful

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webbed feet which help is really great. That fabulously thick fur

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insulating them. You can't experience this, but I can, that

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wonderful musky smell. Absolutely. She's absolutely gorgeous. Thank

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sow much for bringing her in and What's she called? Tan. We try to

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give them water names. That was very special. Thank you. Thank you.

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You never know, do you, but she was calm. It's a lovely story that.

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Everything worked well and she's going to go back to the wild.

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other otter is called Cistern and it's leaking everywhere! OK, next

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question. You are You are rubbish! While we are at it... No, we are

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not not being nasty about the watch any more. What is it? It's high

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fashion, you wouldn't get it. being disingenious here, because

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your daughter loves that watch. can love it as much as she wants.

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If she goes to a fairground and plays with one of those things

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where you put a pound in and grabs something, she might get one as

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well. Later! Serious thing. This is from Pat, having seen all the

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toadlets in last night's programme and hearing kphepb about black

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birds taking them made me think about something in our garden, a

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black bird took a shrew. Birds condition be readily available. I

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suppose it phus be needs must. rare event. Predators of any kind

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always want to pick on things they can overcome without the risk of

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injury, because if they're injured in any way, any simple way, the

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next time they go huping they might be at a disadvantage. The balance

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of nature is so fine that that disadvantage means they won't be

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hunting effectively. A black bird can easily murder a worm or a slug

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but there's always a risk of getting bitten by a shrew. It might

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get infected, it's a risky proposition. We don't see this an

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but occasionally we might. I spoke to the BTO and they say our black

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birds are in trouble and that might be happening because it's so dry

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they can't get worms so that's why. People at home, you can help our

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black birds. You can put out these. Meal worms, they like them. Even

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better if you can do them live, actually. You can get them live.

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You can go on to the internet and buy live ones and they're great.

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They wriggle and scare your mum. You can also open your compost heap.

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What about the grass snakes though? Cancel that last idea!

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Our black birds are in trouble. Body weight is down to less than

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100 grams. Iolo is back with us. had a question from Sue and she

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actually asked exactly what you explained, how do the puffins

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manage to hold the sand eels in their beaks, thanks for that. She

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also said, why are their beaks so fantastically colourful? What is it

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for? Well, the beaks are fantastically

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colourful because it's used in courtship. They use that beak. The

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male and female puffin come together and they'll fence, they'll

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nibble and use that and it's also a sign of just how healthy the bird

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is. So, a female puffin seeing a male puffin with a whacking great

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big colourful blue, red and yellow bill is going to think, that's the

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chap for me. He is in peak condition. He is the strongest,

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biggest puffin around. That's what that beak does. Brilliant.

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Fantastic. Thank you very much. you showed us the shearwaters, down

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the burrow. We might be able to top that. We might be able to go live

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now down a puffin's burrow. Let's see if this is going to work. It's

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a bit dodgy, but she's asleep down there. We can probably speak live,

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I hope, to the person who put the camera down, because that's in

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Shetland. Helen, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Hello. This is Helen

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from the RSPB in shuthand. -- Shetland. How did you get the

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camera down? We managed to find a burrow with two entrances a little

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down the cliff. We managed to get a small camera and secure is in using

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it. When did you put the camera in, ahead of them coming back in, I

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suppose? We hid it in place last We can look at footage you recorded.

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Here is the puffin itself. Can you tell us, are these the same puffins

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back to the same burrow? They do return each year. So you know these

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two? Have they laid an egg down there? They have, yes. Do they take

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it in turns, they come and go into the burrow? That's right. They've

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shared responsibility so the mum and dad take turns. It's a 40-day

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incubation period. So you know when the egg is going to hatch? We are

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expecting it somewhere in the 17th June. We might just be able to see

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that. We are off air on 16th. Hello, Helen! If we get one

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hatching that will be fantastic. Let's move on quickly. We have

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something dear to your heart. We have some art. I will move over.

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Let's all go over and see this. Hello, Kate. Kate, a lady who uses

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natural fabrics in the form of feathers to make exquisite works of

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art. Combining nature with a human device. Which is the one you have

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made for us? This over here, inspired by your programme last

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week, where you showed a Jay feather and also the features on

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otter. It's beautiful. What is so amazing is just the feathers seem

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to take on a totally different texture. Do you go out shooting a

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lot, sorry, how do you get hold of these wonderful feathers? These

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over here are pigeon feathers. I have about 200 people over the UK

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who are pigeon fanciers, I write to them and send them photographs of

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what I am going to do and they send me moulted feathers twice a year in

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April and and October. Fantastic. The other sorts of feathers, - can

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we have a look at this one. It's fantastic. If you rotate that in

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front of the camera, does it change colour? Is that the mallard? Yes.

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Fascinated by the fact it's a common bird we see all the time and

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it's this miraculous colour. We had somebody who contacted the

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programme and asked why British birds were so dull in colour and

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all you have to do is look at that. Look at the Jay and the mallard and

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realise they're anything but. Didn't you also keep in contact

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with game-keepers as well and they provide you with feathers? Yes, I

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did a project last year, game birds would have been shot and cooked in

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the kitchen of Tatten Park. So they lived on in your... Can we look at

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more of Kate's work. Some of the pieces, which are particularly

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large, some of the larger pieces need to be seen. This is the Tatten

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Park piece. Mostly tpezant, quail. What about this one? This is magpie.

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Tail feathers? These were wing feathers. This is crow. How many

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feathers did you use in that one? Can you remember? Something lying

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20,000 feathers. How long did it take? It took me about four years

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to collect enough feathers to make that piece. It was from game-

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keepers who control the bird population on their farms. Did you

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sketch it out, the idea first? Have you stuck them on to

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something? Yes. So you have built a frame? A form. That's about four

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metres long. It's sensational. a shame we couldn't have it in here.

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Thank you very much indeed. Who is going to have that one then? Later!

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Fight you for it! Thank you so much for bringing them in. They're

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fabulous. APPLAUSE.

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That's a challenge. Caroline, from the RSPB here, I think you should

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start collecting feathers for Kate and then maybe she can build an

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installation for you guys here. would be fantastic. If anyone at

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home, we love it, if you are inspired by any of the artists we

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show, get out there and make something and take a photo and send

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it to us. I am going to do one quickly, excuse me, right Robin

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wrote how do lizards detach their tails and does it hurt? OK, I don't

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know whether it hurts but it's called autoony and it's under

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nervous control, they have a weakening in the tail, it doesn't

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split between two vertbrae, they decide, a muscle activates and

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shatters the vertbrae, the muscle blocks detach. A nervous programme

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is switched on in the tail that's detached to wriggle about to detach

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a predator. All that happens in a split second. Most species can grow

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a stump back, not a perfect tail, not just lizards, crustaceons. Even

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if spiders lose a leg they can, when they next moult. I want to

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look at this. Can Iolo see what we see? It's a little test. I can see

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bits of them. Vince has sent us a video of something that happened in

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his bird box. OK. Have a look at It's obviously a dispute here with

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two blue tits. Like a blue tit boxing ring in there. This is blue

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tit cage fighting. Got you! could make a lot of money out of

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this chaps. It's just a dispute over a box involving probably two

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males there fighting over ownership of that box and the successful one,

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I would imagine, would then have got a female and would have built a

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nest. I still reckon we can make money out of that! Who was the guy

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that sent that? I have lost it now. It was Vince. Clearly you have a

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very lovely bird box there. We have to watch this programme, pole

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dancing and cage fighting. My nine- year-old daughter, questions about

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hedgehogs, do they lose their prickles, are baby hedgehogs born

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with prickles and do old hedgehogs turn grey? Have a look at this

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picture. Baby hedgehog. It's here. There it is. Look, they're by a 10

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10p coin. I would suggest hedgehogs don't give birth to their young

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with spines. 50% of the audience have been through that process, and

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it would be too painful. They have them held beneath the skin and the

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follicles break and they begin to develop immediately. They don't

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lose them. They're actually made of fur. They're a modified type of fur

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and they will stay with the hedgehog throughout its life.

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Individual spines are shed and they regrow new ones and to the best of

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my knowledge and I have seen a few in my time, they don't go grey at

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the end of they've life. -- their life. Now the quiz. What's

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happening? Few people have got it completely right. It's reassuring

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really that they don't know what they are. But Rich on Twitter and

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Rose. What is A, please. It's a tick. B? It's a human flea. C is

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the eyelash mite. Most ladies in this room will have them. The make-

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up means they can't escape from underneath the eyelashes and

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they're common in women. What have you got pubiclice. We want to

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celebrate wildlife champions. If you are a wildlife champion and

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Springwatch Unsprung is back with more audience-led informal live discussion and debate.

Martin Hughes-Games chairs as Kate Humble, Chris Packham and Iolo Williams answer audience questions and give in-depth analysis on what the season's wildlife is up to.


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