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BOTH: Om mani padme hum. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Om mani padme hum. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Om mani padme hum. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Breakfast? | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
No. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:10 | |
Once that is full... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
..then we eat. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
Oh, you're down. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
I was going to bring this up to you. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
We had eggs Benedict yesterday. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Huh! We did, and we're not going to again | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
until you're up and moving around properly. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
You mean working it off? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Exactly. Big and strong. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
What do big, strong boys do? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
They beat the bullies at their own game. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Would you go and get my phone for me, please, darling? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
He asked for my advice. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
-And? -I told him to walk away. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
What?! | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
Well, why make things worse than they already are? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
-Here's Daddy. -Thank you. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
-Hello? -Daniel. Hi, it's Jimmi. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
-Hi, Jim. -Why don't you brush your hair | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
and then come back and finish your breakfast? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
-How are you? -Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
-Just bearing up, you know. -Ah, good. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Listen, I'm on my way to work, I'm picking up some lunch. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
I could bring you something around later, if you fancy it? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Listen, thank you, but I'm not really up to, um... | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
..having visitors just yet. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:35 | |
-Thank you, though. -Yeah, no problem. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
-OK. See you soon. -Bye. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
I think we should enrol him in martial arts classes. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
What for? It'll take him years to learn to fight. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-What, and just let them win? -You walk away. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Mummy and Daddy have just been discussing what you should do | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
if someone is being nasty to you. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
-And we thought... -And we think... | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
..that you should walk away. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Walk away with your head held high. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Feeling confident and not showing anyone you're scared. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
And tell the teacher. Don't ever be afraid to tell the teacher. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Don't let them get away with it! | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
It's nice to be important. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
-What are you collecting for? -It's the Buddhist Centre. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
I didn't know there was one. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Well, it's new. It's in Shorefields. It's nearly finished, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
and built completely from donations. We've just got to finish the roof. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
-Maybe I could sign you up? -Yeah, maybe. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
Where are you from, are you from around here? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
-Er...yeah. -You don't get many Buddhist monks in Letherbridge. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
Oh, I just liked the outfit. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
And the hairstyle. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:53 | |
This all happened when I went travelling. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
-Thailand? -Oh, you've been? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
Yeah. Yeah, I stayed in a monastery myself. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Where I was, the monks weren't allowed to handle cash, though. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Some orders can, some orders can't, but we can. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
You look cold. Couldn't you have worn something else, as well? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Oh, I'll get warm when I'm finished. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Right. Well, um... | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
Look, when I was in Thailand, I used to give the monks my food, so... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Oh, I can't. Not until this is full. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
I tell you what, why don't you take this? Take it for later. Go on. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
And, er...at the same time... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
-There you go. -Thank you. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Thank you ever so much. That's amazing, that. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Um...listen, eat more and you'll feel less cold. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
And wear more clothes. Don't suffer for the sake of it. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
If you ever feel unwell, come and see me. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
I'm at the Mill Health Centre. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-Oh, you're a doctor? -Yeah. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:41 | |
You should visit us at the centre. We've got a great cafe. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
-Ah. -You know, it's nice to be important, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
but it's more important to be nice. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
He was there, the little swine. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
-Zak? -And his mother. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
What did you do? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I smiled sweetly | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
and told her anything further Zak did to Joe, I would be doing to her. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
You threatened Zak's mother? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
I established a quid pro quo. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Where was Joe while this was going on? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
He'd already run off and started playing. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Right. So, why are you making this about you? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
How's it going? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Yeah, not so great. Sorry. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
What about the guy in the suit I saw? | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
What did he give you? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:37 | |
Oh. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
100 quid. 100 quid! | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Drops to 50 if you pay within two weeks. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
-So pay it in two weeks, then. -I was only there so long because I was helping someone out. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
-I might as well not have bothered. -I kind of know how you feel, mate. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I was meant to be doing this podcast interview later. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
-And? -I was ready for it, don't get me wrong, it's just... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
..I can't say I'm not relieved it's not happening now. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
It probably would have been a disaster. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
-Things can only get better for me, too, mate. -Hm. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Ah! Good news. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
Careers Without Limits have agreed to pay for a locum, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
so you are free to do the podcast. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
So, you want me to do it now? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
-Well, I think it will be good practice for your interview next week. -Oh. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-Keep doing the exercises. -I will. Thank you. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-No worries. See you. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
-Er...you will be fine. -Do you think? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
I do not think, I know. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Visualisation. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:03 | |
Excuse me? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
You just have to visualise a successful outcome. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
It is a very good technique. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
One that I am familiar with | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
from the last practice managers' course I attended. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
-Hm. OK. -You need to visualise that you are going to get the last word. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
Just think about what you are going to say and say it! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
It is important that you do. That YOU do. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
No-one else can say it like you. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Right. OK. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
But if you don't believe it, no-one else will. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Well, you are a young, inspirational man | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
-with a wonderful dress sense. -Huh! | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
But you have to make sure that you... | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Get the last word in. I will. Thank you, Mrs Tembe. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Now you can eat. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
-You came! -Mm. You got me thinking. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-About? -Whether bad things happen to good people, and vice versa. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
Oh, I'm just a novice. You should really speak to my master. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
Is that who you came in with? | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
Yeah, Jinba. I mean, he knows everything. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Everything? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:25 | |
Yeah. Um... Well, you know what I mean. Like, he's knowledgeable. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
I only hope that one day, I can be the same. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
I'd have thought you'd have eaten that already. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-I wasn't really hungry. -You looked hungry. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-So, how did the collecting go? -Yeah, good. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-Where's the tin? -Well, Jinba took it. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
You know, I'm so glad that you were drawn here. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Is that how you feel, that you were missing something? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
Yeah. Why, is that how you feel, too? | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
-Me? -Yeah. Is that what led you to the monastery in Thailand | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
and to give me £20? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
What is it that's troubling you? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
He will do what's right for him! | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
He doesn't know what's right for him. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Of course he does. We've discussed it with him. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
After all that he's been through, everything he saw happen to you? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
Things will get back to normal soon enough. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
He'll forget it and he'll move on. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Oh, will he? We don't even know if he's had a proper lunch. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
We don't know if this Zak sits with him. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
-Zara! -We don't know anything! | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
For all we know, this child is making his life a misery! | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
It won't just go away by itself! | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-Yes, it will. -PHONE RINGS | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Is that the school? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
No. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:41 | |
-Hello? STANTON: -Hi, Zara. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
-Is it Joe? Has something happened? -No, no, no, nothing like that. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I just...I just wanted to talk to you. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
About what? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
And why have I still not had official notification | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
that I'm no longer a witness? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
I was wondering if we could meet up. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
You're not going to change my mind. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
I understand that, but just to talk things through. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
No. There is nothing for us to talk about. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
A friend of mine nearly just died, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
but the idea of rebirth didn't reassure me. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
Why not? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
He's done some bad things. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
And as far as I can make out, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
karma dictates that he will be reborn in misery. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
No. He can make amends, no matter what he's done. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
I've forgiven him, but what if the other people haven't? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
Well, they have to. Lord Buddha teaches it. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
But they're not Buddhists, are they? | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
But if he's trying to make up for what he's done... | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
But what if he can't? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
What did he do that was so bad, this friend of yours? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
No, it really was a friend, it's not me. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
Is it, though? Really? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
And, er...if I need anything... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
Right. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
Mm-hm! | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
HE EXHALES | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
So, you let your colleague do something you wouldn't have, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
but you can't be any more specific? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
-No. -Patient confidentiality? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
No, this is my other job as an FME. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
-What's that? -A police doctor. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
Oh, so, you're in the police? | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
-No, I just work with them sometimes. -Right. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
So, what got you interested in Buddhism? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
I needed something. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
Buddhism seemed the closest, I guess. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
So, you went to Thailand? | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Yeah. Looking for answers. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
You find them? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:49 | |
Partly. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Partly I'm still looking. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Yeah, me, too. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
So I'll introduce you all, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
explain you're each from diverse backgrounds | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
and great successes in your chosen fields | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
of law, accountancy and banking. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
I represent the media and, er... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Oh, yes, we've got a GP from Letherbridge | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
being patched through, as well. Hello, Dr Vere, can you hear me? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Hello. Yeah, I can hear you. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
This is Natalie Zafira in London | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
and with me, I've got Nicholas Henderton | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
of Henderton International Accountants, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
Barbara Maschero of the law firm Maschero and Maschero UK | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
and Hazel Everdell of Everdell Investments. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
Er...right. Well, er...yeah, I'm Sid Vere. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
I'm a GP at the Mill Health Centre in Letherbridge. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-Hello? -Yes, we heard you. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Right. Sorry. Um... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
-Hello? -If you could stop saying hello? | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
It makes it sound like a phone call. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
You won't always get a response. Best just to keep talking. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Yeah, sure. No problem. Um...why's everyone down there in London? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
-I thought this was supposed to be all about the Midlands? -It is. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
All our icons are from the Midlands, but all have offices in London, too. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
Right. So, it's just me up here, then. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Hello? Sorry. Erm... | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Ready when you are. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
I wasn't always called Genyen. Jinba gave me that name. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
It means approaching virtue. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-So, what were you called before? -Sean. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
That's what your mum called you? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
My mum died when I was ten. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Sorry. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Then it was just me and me dad until Mary, who became my stepmum, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
came along. Then when I was 18 and about to go to university... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
..my dad had a stroke. He died. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
Mary contested the will. She got the house, most of the cash, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
and kicked me out. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
I mean, I got enough money to see me through uni but... | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
..that had always been Dad's dream. You know, his son getting a degree. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
I couldn't see the point in it after that. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
So what did you do? | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
I went travelling. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
-And you worked things out on the way? -Yeah, a little. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
You know, life was clearer going from place to place, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
but coming home... | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
Have you been back to see your stepmum? | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
No. She hates me. I remind her of her greed. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
-What about other family? -I've got this place. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-No friends? -No. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
So this place is all you've got? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
Go on, then, what else do I need? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
-We all need friends. -Yeah, well, I don't. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-No? -Friends can drag you down. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Is that what yours did? | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
Yeah. Before Jinba found me. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Found? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Yeah, he saw me begging. Took me in. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
But you can't see any of your old friends? | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I wouldn't want to, anyway. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
Anyway, I was thinking, because you're a doctor | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
and you're interested in Buddhism, and I know you've given already... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
So the only reason that you can stay in this place | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
-is because you collect money for them? -Jinba lets me stay. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
-Yeah, to collect money. -It could be worse. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
-With no family, no friends? -Where else would I go? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
-What if there was somewhere? -What with? I've got no money... | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
What if you did have some...? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Jinba, this is Dr Clay from this morning. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
I was hoping he'd make another contribution. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
-I think you'd better leave. -Excuse me? -And if you've finished lunch, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
-why are you still here? -Sorry, Jinba. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
-In the shrine room. Now. -Yes, Jinba. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-Hang on... -No, just leave it. It's all right. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
-Just go. -Are you sure? -Yeah. -Are you going to be OK? -Yeah, of course. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
OK, then. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
So the consensus seems to be that the opportunities are there for | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
black and minority ethnic candidates but that they need role models. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
Definitely. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:50 | |
And that's what you all are. You've fought your way to the top. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
-Oh, I don't know about that. -So tell us a little bit about yourselves. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
-Well, I grew up in Birmingham. -Yeah, er, me too. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
-And, Hazel, were you always aware that you were different? -I was. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
My parents had huge expectations of me and I of myself, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
but my teachers expected nothing. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
-And you think that's because you're black? -I'm sure it was. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
Until I proved them wrong, they assumed I'd fail. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
-Yeah, I'd agree with that. -But you proved otherwise? | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
I was the best in maths. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
The best in school, the best in the county, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
the best in the Midlands. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
Yeah, but, what if you weren't? | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
There were scholarships, bursaries, prizes. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
It's imperative we nurture talent, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
-as everybody in this room proves. -That's all well and good, but... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Which is exactly what Careers Without Limits is providing - | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
an opportunity for real opportunity in the region as long as the drive | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
and desire are there in the first place. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is what if they're not? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
What about the kids who don't have your confidence, Hazel? | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
Or they're not brilliant at maths? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Surely diversity is not just about mentoring the talent, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
it's about making kids from minority ethnic backgrounds believe. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Look, OK, we were lucky. We had supportive parents. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
But even so, no-one expected me to become a doctor, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
until one day, someone did, and that changed everything. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Look, it's not just the alpha kids that we need to be focusing on, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
it's the ones who don't believe. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
The ones who need people like us as role models, to give them | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
the confidence to be what they can be. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Hello? | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
Hello? | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-Hey, champ. -Ah, ah, ah. -No cuddles. Just some skin. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
-All right. How was your day? -Fine. -Yeah? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Tell Daddy what happened. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
I told Zak not to push me. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Yes, you did. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
I did what Mummy said. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
And what was that? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
Even when you're scared, never let it show. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
-And you didn't, did you? -No. -And what else? | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
I went and told the teacher. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Good for you. I'm proud of you. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
And so am I. So, now you know how to be tough, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
how to stand your ground and how not be pushed around, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
so well done, you. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
Well done. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
So that's the end of today's podcast. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
It only remains for me to say goodbye on behalf of | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Nicholas Henderton of Henderton International Accountants, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
Barbara Maschero of the law firm Maschero and Maschero UK | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
and Hazel Everdell of Everdell Investments. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Thank you so much for having me. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
And myself, Natalie Zafira. Proof if it were needed... | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
And me, Dr Vere. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Dr Vere, forgive me. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
And apologies again for the technical problems which meant | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
we lost your contribution earlier, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
but we very much look forward to hearing from you again. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
Hello? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:00 | |
Oh, Genyen? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
You were right. I can't do this any more. I'm leaving. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
-I thought you said you had nowhere to go? -I don't. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
No money. I'll go to a shelter or something. I'll be fine. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Well, you're not going to find one for tonight. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
-Oh, I cant... -No, no, no. Take this. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Just get on a bus, get out of town and find a hostel, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
then tomorrow call the social services. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
-Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. That's amazing. -Where's Jinba? | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Oh, he's meditating. He didn't see me go. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
And what's he going to do when he finds out you're gone? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Oh, he won't do anything. Not if he knows | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
-you're with the police. -I'm not with the police, am I? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
-But you work with them, you said. -Yeah, sometimes. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
Jinba won't want to get them involved. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Thank you. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:50 | |
You've been a star. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
Excuse me? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Oh! | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
When did you last eat? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Only between sunrise and noon. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
One of the precepts? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
If you're strict. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
-And you are? -Very. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Genyen said you'd told him not to eat | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
-until after he'd been out collecting. -That's right. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
-Well, he ate when he came back but you didn't. -No. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
So, when was your last meal? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
I can't remember. Yesterday. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
No wonder you collapsed. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Where's Genyen? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
-He's gone. -Gone where? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
He said you were keeping him here. Making it impossible for him | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
-to leave, so... -You didn't give him money? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
Yeah, but he was already leaving when I had. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
What have you done? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
"That is the last time anyone pushes me around." | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
That's what he just said. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-And that's a good thing? -Of course it is! | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Doesn't that just turn him into a bully himself? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
No! And even if it does, isn't that better than the alternative? | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
No, of course not. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
-Because it doesn't just have to be one or the other. -Oh, come on! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
What kind of a man do you want him to be? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
A winner. Haven't we had to fight for everything we've got? | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-Have we? -People telling me I can't, I'm weak, expecting me to buckle. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Joe has not been put through all this just to let those lowlifes win. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
What? What does that mean? | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
No, Zara... | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
Mummy? | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
No. Zara. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Come here! HE GROANS | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
How much is gone? | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Erm, the week's takings. About £450. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-And I thought I could trust him now. -He's done this before? | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
I tried not to put temptation in his way. No big notes. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
I take them from him. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
The office. He must have seen where I left the key. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
But if he'd waited till tomorrow, he'd have got even more. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
I think I panicked him when I told him I work with the police. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
I don't want the police involved. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
I... I don't want him locked up. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
We want to get our money back, though, don't we? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-Did he take anything else? -Just my bank card. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
-Can you cancel it? -Well, if we're in time. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
-Does he know the pin? -I don't know. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
It was my birthday last week. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
So? | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
So...it depends if he remembers. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-PODCAST: -..and Hazel Everdell of Everdell Investments. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Thank you so much for having me. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
And myself, Natalie Zafira. Proof if it were needed... | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Come in. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:30 | |
So? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
How did it go? | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
It was a disaster. It was humiliating. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
I am sure it was not that bad. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
-PODCAST: -Dr Vere, forgive me. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
And apologies again for the technical problems which meant | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
we lost your contribution earlier. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
My contribution? I made this massive speech, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
totally got the last word in, the only problem was | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
no-one got to hear it. I'm never doing anything like that again. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
Well, you do have the online interview next week. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:08 | |
Lucky number eight, then five for the five precepts, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
four stages of enlightenment and the seven ages of Buddha. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Oh...Buddha's birthday. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
8th of the 4th, 623 BC. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
Urgh. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Come on. Think. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Not Buddha's birthday. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
# Happy birthday, dear Jinba | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
# Happy birthday to you. # | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Oh, bingo! That's priceless. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Oi! | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
Come here! | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
You had to use the bank card, didn't you? You had to be greedy? | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
-You say your stepmum's the greedy one? -I haven't even got a stepmum. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Why am I not surprised? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
-Jinba won't make a complaint. -No, maybe not, but I will. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
-Oh, ah, to ease your guilty conscience? -No. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
Just to give you time so you can get one of your own. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
Hello. Which service? Police, please. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
You're going to testify, aren't you? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
You may be able to forget about it, but I can't. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
Forget? I'm lucky to be alive. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
And what? We're supposed to reward them for trying to stab you? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
No, we're doing what we have to do to stop them doing it again. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
-Or worse. -No, we're not. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
They took Joe. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
They attacked you. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
-And we're just holding up our hands. -No. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
They are intimidating us into backing down. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Because they don't care if they go to jail. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
If I don't testify, they don't go to jail. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
That is not our problem. We've done our bit. I've been stabbed. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
What's it going take for you, Joe getting hurt as well? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
So, how do we stop anyone else getting hurt if the person doing it | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
is still out there because everyone is too scared to make them stop? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
Joe didn't back down and I'm not going to, either. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Course you're not. Because you're a winner. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
-We all are. -Are we? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Cos from where I'm standing, all we want to be is safe. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
You have to make a decision, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
what's more important - winning, or your family? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
Ooh! | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
Little red heart shapes. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
It stings a bit, but they are cute. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Gross. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
My name's Zara Carmichael, Dr Carmichael, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I want to see DI Stanton. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
There's just one thing, you might have to model the gear. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
What?! | 0:26:56 | 0:26:57 | |
There are things he's not facing up to. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
Things perhaps... he's keeping from us. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 |