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Sandra. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
You been waiting long? | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
30 seconds is too long in this place. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Who sent you this? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
Mate on the Flying Squad. Nick Kellogg, who shot the Security Guard, is here on remand, awaiting trial. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:22 | |
-Things are looking up. -I doubt it. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
I'm Detective Superintendent Pullman, this is Jack Halford, UCOS. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
You must be thrilled. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Do you know what this is? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
-Pass. -It's a ballistics report on the gun you were carrying. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
Bad news is it's the same gun that was used to kill a guy called Eddie Mayfair in 1999. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:47 | |
-Never heard of him. -Eddie was a boxer, 21. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
I saw him fight once. He was very good. Until somebody shot him. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
-Hang on, are you trying to dump this on me? -We know you were doing time in '99, so we're not looking at you. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
-All we want to know is where you got the gun. -Don't be silly. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Silly was getting caught with it. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Whoever it was gave it to you didn't care that you were carrying a murder weapon, did he? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
Help us and you can only help yourself at your trial. A name. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Look, I'm sorry... | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
you must have mistaken me for something that looks like grass. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
-So you're happy to give up the chance of a favourable word in the judge's ear? -Last time of asking. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:24 | |
I tell you what... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
..why don't you take that report, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
and you roll it up nice and tight | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
and then you shove it where a monkey shoves his nuts? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
# It's all right, it's OK | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
# It's all right, I say, it's OK | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
# Listen to what I say | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
# It's all right, doing fine | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
# It's all right, I say, it's OK | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
# We're getting to the end of the day. # | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
CLASSICAL SINGING PLAYS OVER SCENE | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Quick hands. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Oof! | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
Mind you, this Joseph's not as bad as I thought he was going to be. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Now, watch this. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Bang! | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
And, goodnight, Nurse. Oh, he really was quality, wasn't he? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
-Top drawer. -Quality what? There's a doctor in the ring, cos the other fella's not moving! | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
-Milton Joseph ended up in hospital. Injuries were so bad he never fought again. -That's appalling! | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
-Well, it's boxing. I mean, nobody WANTS it to happen... -It's brutal. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Brutal? It's barbaric. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
-You don't know what you're talking about. -I know boxing's nothing more than legitimised thuggery. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
-The nearest you ever got to a ring was your playpen. -I suppose you did! | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
-I did, as it happens, and I'm proud of it. -Oh, aye, I'll bet. That would explain the brain damage. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
-Oi! -Oh, shut up! | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Jack, please, lay out all the gory details for us. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
November 1999. Eddie Mayfair was found shot dead at 8am | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
by two cleaners in the gym above the Sun in Splendour pub in Stepney. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
That was exactly a week after that fight. No-one heard the shot or saw anyone go in and out of the building. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:42 | |
Last person to see him alive was his best mate, Danny Branston, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
who saw him leave for the gym about 6:30 in the morning. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
-Branston? He was a pro fighter too, weren't he? -Used to spar for Eddie. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
He went on to fight for the British welterweight title against, erm... | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
- Steve Grint. - In Manchester. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
-Yeah, it was stopped in the third... -Fourth. Stopped in the fourth. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
-Branston had cuts over both eyes. His cornerman couldn't stem the left one. -So, are you a fight fan, sir? | 0:04:00 | 0:04:05 | |
-It has been known. Started at school. I boxed for my House. -Did you? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Yeah, and at university. I remember Eddie Mayfair very well. Tough. Big puncher. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
13 straight wins undefeated, eight KOs. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Danny Branston and Eddie's family and friends were convinced Milton Joseph, or someone close to him, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:21 | |
shot Eddie in revenge for what had happened the week before. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
But how could he have done, if he was in hospital? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
-He came out the day before Eddie was killed. -The Murder Squad got next to nothing out of Milton and co, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:32 | |
so with no information, no forensics, case went nowhere. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Until last week, when the murder weapon reappeared. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Now, interestingly, both Danny Branston and Milton Joseph have since gained criminal records. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
-So why don't you start with them? -What a good idea, sir. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
Who'd have thought it? Stwickers a pugilist! | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Hello? Hello? | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
-Anyone home... -Yeah! | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
All right, er... | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-Can't give you more than 200 for that, mate. -Come again? | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
The scrap prices are low. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
-Do what?! -Danny Branston? -Might be. Who wants to know? | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
I'm Jack Halford, this is Gerry Standing, Unsolved Crime and Open Case Squad. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:16 | |
We'd like to talk to you about Eddie Mayfair. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
-Eddie? What's happened, somebody finally put their hands up? -Not exactly. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
We're re-examining the case. And we'd like to know what you remember. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
You saw him the morning he died. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I was staying at his mum and dad's, yeah. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
We'd only just stopped celebrating him getting the title shot. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
-Eddie was up early as usual and went off to start getting himself back into shape. -And you? -No. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
Early mornings was Eddie's thing, not mine. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
I was going to join him later... | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
then I got the call. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
I saw you fight Steve Grint. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
That was unlucky. That was a nasty cut. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
Yeah, that's how it goes, innit? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
I was all right, I could throw a few, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
nothing like Eddie, though. That boy was mustard, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
real deal. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
We was like that, me and Ed. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
We had such a laugh together. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
After he died... it was never the same. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
Everything changed. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
Like you getting a criminal record. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-I fell in with the wrong crowd. -Wrong crowd? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Look, it was a one-off, all right? A stupid mistake. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
What about uniform being called to your flat about a domestic? | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Was that a one-off as well? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
It must have been, cos they ain't been back. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
So you're not involved in the fight game any more? | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
No, not really. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
-I work the corners for the odd bout every now and then. Cutsman. -Oh, yeah? | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
Yeah... It's nothing like fighting, though, is it? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
-So, you boys going to go talk to Milton? -Milton Joseph? | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
-Yeah. He's the one that did it, ain't he? -Really? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Course he did. Look, Eddie put paid to him good and proper. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
It was the end of Milton's dream, weren't it? | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
No more payday, no more glory. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
Just a battered-up old nobody. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
So, that's what you think? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Not just me. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Ask around. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
'I said everything I've got to say about him after he died.' | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
I have nothing to do with killing that man. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
You came out of hospital the day before Eddie Mayfair was shot. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
Yeah...on sticks. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
I was in no fit state. And I was with... | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
-friends. -We're going to talk to them too. Plus your manager. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Mitch Graham? I want to be around for that conversation. He's in a hole in the ground. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
He's dead? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:25 | |
Well, if he's not he's doing a damn good impression. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
What, you didn't know he died? Wow... | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
you must be headed for promotion. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
-How'd it happen? -Car crash on the M4. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
Car he was in overturned. Mitch was a good man. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
A lot of people thought you wanted to kill Eddie Mayfair, because of how the fight ended. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
You, badly hurt...humiliated. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
A lot of people want to bring back hanging. Don't mean they're not talking shit. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
Look, I went through this 11 years ago. You found out nothing to put me there when the guy died. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
And no-one saw a black guy go in and out of that hole in Stepney, so why don't you just leave me alone? | 0:07:59 | 0:08:04 | |
11 years ago, you were clean. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Four years ago, you beat a guy senseless at a red light. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
He spat in my face. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
You put him in hospital. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
I got a suspended sentence. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
The judge said I was "severely provoked". | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
Oh. Is that what happens when you get severely provoked? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
So, Milton... who do YOU think killed Eddie? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Pass. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Don't you want to know? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
If only to finally clear the cloud that's over your head? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
There's no cloud over me, because I know what I know. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
He's dead. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
Who killed him? | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Now, do you want something to eat or drink? | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
Then don't waste my time. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Cor, it must be, what, 30 years since I've been here. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
-35. -Yeah! | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
Look, she didn't actually say wait outside. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-We could go in and just... -Too late. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
God, it's a monstrosity, isn't it? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
-RADIO: '..is shining here at the Oval...' -Ah, it's great, innit? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
-Wonderful. -Excuse me. Detective Superintendent Pullman. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
-I called earlier about taking a look upstairs. -That way. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
Thank you. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
-Oh, no, did you hear that? We've only lost another wicket! -I know... | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
No, no, no, let him come on to you! Suck him in, then counter. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
You go toe to toe with Hunter and he'll knock you flat on your arse! | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
-Doug Palmer? -Yes, madam? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Detective Superintendent Pullman. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
We're here about Eddie Mayfair. We're investigating his murder. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
All right, all right, that's enough. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:45 | |
Don, go and take a shower. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
-Eric, do some bloody work. -All right... | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Excuse my French. Eddie. Yeah. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Downstairs said you was coming in. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
You trained him. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
I had that singular honour, yeah. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
I saw him a couple of times. I was there when he beat Mark Jago. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
Were you?! Yeah, that was a bit of a ding-dong, weren't it? | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
- Class will out. - You're a man of taste, sir. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
You obviously knew Eddie very well. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
-What was he like? -Pound for pound, the best fighter I ever trained. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
And in the ring, | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
probably the best puncher I ever saw. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
I loved him. One of the biggest regrets of my life | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
-was being with Harry at the Dorchester that morning, instead of here. -Harry? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Harry Gallo. Eddie's manager, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
and my good friend. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
If I'd have been here, maybe... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
You might have been dead an' all. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
Yeah, well... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
He was a sweet boy, Eddie. Sweet boy. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-And he was ready for it. -"It"? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Everything that was coming to him. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
The show. The big time. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
He was made for it...no question. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-Why was your meeting with Mr Gallo so early? -Eddie. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
We were discussing his title shot. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
It was tricky because of what happened to Milton. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
Talking up Eddie's chances so soon after in public would have | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
come across as pretty crass, so we had to be secretive about it. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
Secretive? At the Dorchester Hotel? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Harry kept a suite there. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
He's a showman. Likes to do things with style. Even when it's on the QT. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
Erm, who do you think shot Eddie? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
I've no idea. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Doesn't make sense. Everybody loved him. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
I doubt Milton did. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
No! Milton's a good lad. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
I don't buy it. All that manure about him and his people. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
Even after Eddie finished his career so brutally? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Eddie knocked opponents out. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
That's why people went to see him. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
He was a crowd pleaser. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
The Hackney Hammer. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
They loved him. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
We all did. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
Is that the way to the changing room? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Er, yeah. Er, if the boy's still in there, chuck him out. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
Yeah, sad. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
The alcohol? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
Couldn't you smell it? | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
Oh...sorry. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
See anything you like? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
-It's a vast improvement from looking at you lot all day long. -That kind of physique is very overrated. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
Well, Brian, you would say that. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:32 | |
It's near-enough unchanged. Not even a lick of paint. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
Eddie was shot in the chest at point-blank range, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
which suggests that, if someone got so near, he either knew his killer or... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
-Or they surprised him. -One door. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Yeah, and how did he get into the building? I mean, so early. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-He was a special case so the pub gave him a key. -Killer could have followed him in. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
-Well, the ease with which he came in and out suggests he knew the place. -Knew enough not to leave any prints. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
Yeah, what I don't understand is how nobody in the street saw anyone leave. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:03 | |
Well, early morning, area like this, probably pretty deserted that time of day. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
An area like this is called the East End. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
People have a habit of not seeing anything... especially when asked by the police. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
Pwoar...whole place stinks of sweat. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Some women find that attractive. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
And you wonder why you never made it past Sergeant, Gerry. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Oh, he's nice. That taller one. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
"Nice"?! | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
What are you talking about? They're trying to kill each other. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
Well, that's boxing, isn't it? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
What kind of justification is that? | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
Not everybody finds physical confrontation as upsetting as you do. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
What's that supposed to mean? | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
Well, I mean, it can be quite elegant, can't it? Muhammad Ali... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
Oh, not you an' all! | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Anyway, it doesn't stop him being handsome. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
Handsome is as handsome does. And he's trying to DO him. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
Besides...he's dead. Murdered. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Oh, that's a shame. HE SIGHS | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
ESTHER TUTS Ooh! | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Not so pretty now, is he? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Shall we eat? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
Yeah, that's great. OK, thanks a lot, bye. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:24 | |
-GERRY GROANS -Well, Milton's "people" are turning out to be a bit scarce. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
How do you mean? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Well, his manager/trainer did die in a car crash. 2006. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
And out of all the other guys who were questioned back in '99 - Steven Garrido, also dead. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:41 | |
Drive-by shooting in Balham, 2008. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Kelwyn Baptiste was deported to Jamaica in 2003. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
Strickland's talking to the people over there and waiting for them to get back to him. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
But this Ashley McCollin, he just seems to have disappeared. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
Is he wanted for anything? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
-No, I don't think so. -All sounds a bit unfortunate. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
And coincidental. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:01 | |
Yeah, well, shit happens. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Better try and see if there's anything more to it. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
What are you still watching that for? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
-Superintendent Pullman? -Yes, and this is Brian Lane. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Hi. I'm Harry's PA. Er, can I ask you what it is you want to see him about? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
We're re-examining the murder of one of Mr Gallo's former clients. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
An Eddie Mayfair. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-Are you OK? -Eddie was my son. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
Oh, my God. I'm so sorry... | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
No, no...it's OK. It's just a bit of a shock, that's all. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
-Well, we've been trying to contact you. -Please. Don't apologise. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
-Sorry, we didn't know you worked for Mr Gallo. -I...I came here after Eddie's father died. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:51 | |
He never got over what happened. Harry was really good to me. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-Sorry. -No. No, not at all. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Come on, I'll take you to meet Harry. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
11 years on? Aren't you a bit late? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
The case remains open. We want to close it by finding his killer. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Good. If only for Ronnie's sake. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
I'm not just saying it because she's here but...Eddie was quite something. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:19 | |
I don't know if genius is the right word but I do know he was unique. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
As a boxer? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
I'm one of the top promoters this side of the Atlantic. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
I managed the boy...and I guided him. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
And if I tell you Eddie Mayfair was simply sensational, | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
you'd better believe it. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
Ronnie, she brought him up in the right way, but he still had this... hunger. He was desperate to win. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:43 | |
And when you have that combination, you've got a champion on your hands. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
-Who could have killed him? -Well, a lot of people say it was Milton, because of what Eddie did to him. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
Truth is, I can't think of anyone else who would wish Eddie ill. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
And you have to say that Milton was badly damaged. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
What about some of the other boxers that Eddie bashed up? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
Boxing doesn't ordinarily make you desirous of that kind of revenge. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
It's a hard trade, but it's a bit more noble than that. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Doug Palmer isn't so sure that Milton was responsible. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Yeah, well...Doug's a romantic. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Sentimental, even. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
He doesn't just think boxing's noble, he thinks it's pure. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Yeah, and he's still working for you. Despite the drinking. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Doug's a first-class trainer... | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
and he's a friend. We go back a long way. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Did you ever fall out with Eddie? | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
I have to say I find that rather insulting. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Especially in front of the boy's mother. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
That's a no, then, is it? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Eddie would have gone on to make a lot of money, I presume. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
So his death must also have damaged you financially. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
If you want to look at it that way. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Do you think the killer could have been targeting you, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
albeit in a rather extreme way? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
Well, you don't get where I am without upsetting some people along the way. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:00 | |
But it's hard to believe they'd try to get to me by killing Eddie. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Well, if they did, it obviously didn't work. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
You've done very well since then. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
I know my trade. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
And I'm good at what I do. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
But I'd give it all up to still have Eddie in my stable...still alive. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
You've had other boxers. Good ones. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Never another like him. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
What about Danny Branston? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
Not in Eddie's league. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Danny was a good man, though. He was... He was decent. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
If he weren't, Eddie's Eve wouldn't have married him. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
-Eddie's Eve? -Eve Aspinall. Her and Eddie were engaged. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
It broke her heart, what happened, so...Danny helped her put it back together again. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
Bit like Harry did for me. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
We live together. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:44 | |
Best move I ever made. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Reckons he's one of the top promoters "this side of the Atlantic". | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
Lots of photos of sports stars all over the place. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
It was only boxing when he started. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
He's branched out into all sorts now. But he made his reputation by finding new young boxing talent. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
Yeah, also has a reputation for not being able to hold on to them. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
Gallo got a couple started, but they've tended to move on. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-Really? -Yeah, there was an article about him in The Ring magazine last year. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
-Still nothing from the Jamaican authorities. I'll try and chivvy them up. -Thank you. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
So, Danny and Eve Aspinall. Eddie's former girlfriend is now married to his best mate. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:23 | |
Yeah, maybe they just wanted to comfort each other. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Still it's neat and tidy, unlike Milton's lot. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
I wouldn't call it neat. I'd call it incestuous. The whole boxing world. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
Oh, don't start all that again! | 0:19:33 | 0:19:34 | |
Well, look at that crowd at the fight! | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
They were baying for blood! | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
-Might as well have been dog-fighting or bear-baiting. -Listen, you idiot, boxing channels aggression. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:45 | |
It's the best way of stopping young blokes becoming thugs. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
Oh, right, so...Eddie Mayfair being shot in the chest | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
and his best mate being done for receiving stolen goods, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
and Milton's close circle, killed in a drive-by shooting, deported, disappeared, | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
-that's a boxing success story, is it? -Guys, can we get back to the point, please? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
No, the point is that boxing is purely nihilistic. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
It teaches you nothing except might is right. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
I tell you what it taught me. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
-It taught me that you are a grade-A, 22-carat prat! -Enough! | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
-Who can't accept that a physical challenge between two grown men... -Oh, here we go! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
..going head to head, toe to toe, is a simple but honest test of bravery. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-Really? -Yeah! And you know what I think? I think it scares you. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
-Yeah, it's a sign of cowardice. -What did you say? | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-I said, enough! -You heard. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
-Call me a coward?! -And the rest! | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Piss off! | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Ohh! Ohhh! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Ohh, that really hurt. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Brilliant. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
Brian, go and get yourself cleaned up. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Jack...get him out of here! | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
I didn't hit him hard. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Well, you saw it, he came at me. It was instinct! | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Well, say something. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:04 | |
I thought your footwork was a bit rusty. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
This is it. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
Oh, yeah. Very tasteful! | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
Well, not bad for a 34-year-old scrap dealer. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Eve Branston? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-I'm Jack Halford, this is Gerry Standing. -Are you here about Eddie? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
-That's right. -Come in. -Thank you. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
I am so glad you're doing this. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Just for people to know, you know? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
His mum, friends... | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
It's just about doing what's right, isn't it? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Well, maybe with your help, we'll get a result. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Do you remember the fight between Eddie and Milton? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
I remember around it. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
I never used to watch Eddie in the ring. I found it too painful. Coffee? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
-Thank you. -Yeah, that'd be nice. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
After the fight, did Eddie seem upset at all? Worried? | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
No. He used to... | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Please. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
..get anxious before a bout, but afterwards he was always excited. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
He was overjoyed really. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Especially this one. The chance to fight for the title and everything. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-Thank you. -Cheers. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
Is it right that you were away the day Eddie died? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Paris. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
Eddie had paid for me and my mum to go away for the weekend. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
He was going to join us. It was going to be a special... | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
-I'm sorry. -No, no, no, just...take your time. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
I'm OK. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Eventually, you started going out with Danny Branston. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Danny and I always used to cry when we saw each other. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
I'd just lost the... love of my life, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
the man I loved, and, er, Danny his best friend. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
Brought us together, I suppose. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
The police were called to your flat not long after you were married. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
You called them, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
about Danny. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
No marriage is perfect. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
It wasn't easy for either of us in the beginning, Danny and me. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
Well, we didn't have any money for a start. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Danny wasn't a big star like Eddie, you know. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
He was always getting letters from the bank. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
-Doesn't look like he's getting 'em any more. -No, Danny is a good provider. We're doing very well. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
-Did Eddie mention anyone with a grudge, someone who might have wanted to hurt him? -Yeah, loads in the ring. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:47 | |
But not outside. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
After the fight, did he talk about Milton at all? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
-No. -Was he sorry that Milton ended up in hospital? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
No. No, I don't think he was. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
You must have been very young when you first met Eddie? | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Just 16. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
I met him when he first came to Hackney. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
I thought he came from Hackney. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
No. He moved there in 1995. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
So he was, well, just 17. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
Where did he move from? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
South of the river. Stockwell, I think. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Apparently, he was a right terror, getting into fights and stuff. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
-In Stockwell? -Yeah. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
His mum thought he needed a bit of a firm hand before it got out of hand. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
Channelled it all into his boxing. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
It's hard to believe, but...you look like you've been in a fight. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Just listen, yeah? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
-Oh...so you lost. -Ashley McCollin. Where can we find him? -Don't ask me. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:53 | |
I ain't seen him in a long time. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
He's one of your best friends. Was. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
-Along with Kelwyn Baptiste, Steven Garrido... | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
I ain't seen him. I ain't seen any of 'em. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
-What, you lose touch with friends just like that? -Yeah. I lost touch. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
People go their separate ways, but you still tend to hear about them. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
I mean, you'd hear if they'd been in a car crash, or shot, deported... | 0:25:11 | 0:25:17 | |
Your friends have some bad luck, don't they, Milton? | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
-What you talking about? -Ashley. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Not dead as well, is he? Cos then we'd have to start wondering whether this really was just bad luck. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
You know, I think you're trying to scare me. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
And I ain't scared of you. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
And I think there's something you're not saying. Which is...? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
OK. Well, if you do hear about your friends | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
you will let me know, won't you? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:42 | |
-UCOS? -Yes, you just spoke to some of our colleagues yesterday. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
-What is it? Have you found something? -More something we haven't found. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:59 | |
I hear that Eddie wasn't born in Hackney. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
That you moved there when he was about 17. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
-That's right, yeah. -From Stockwell? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-I hear he got into a bit of trouble. -Well, not really. Just a bit of... teenage stuff. Nothing serious. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:13 | |
Eddie was in a gang and me and his father weren't happy about it. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
-What sort of gang? -Well, just... boys. We were right to move. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
Most of the kids he hung out with are inside now. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-Who else was in the gang, can you remember any names? -Er...Dermot Thomas. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
Er, Gary Harris. Nick Kellogg... | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
-What are you doing? -I'm watching the boxing match. -I can see that. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
-I just can't quite believe it, that's all. -Oh, don't be so sanctimonious. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
I don't see that indulging the baser aspects of human nature by willingly exposing your... | 0:26:41 | 0:26:46 | |
-Look, have you seen this? -Yeah, the trainer's footage. Of course I have. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
No. Here. This. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
Look, just before the end of the fight. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
-There, see? -What? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
What's he saying? | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
-Saying? -The black boy. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
"Get off me, you maniac," I imagine. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
No, I don't think so. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
He almost looks...surprised. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
Hmm, he's about to be. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
You see? He's not saying anything now. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
-I prefer the other one. -That's cos you don't know her. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Sit down. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
The gun. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
I'm sorry, you've lost me already. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Well, did you buy it outright or did you rent it from an armourer? | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-What's so funny? -You. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
-You're very old-fashioned, do you know that? -Yeah, yes, I know. I know, I'm ancient. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
But, you know, being so old helps me to recognise certain aspects of human behaviour, such as lying. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:58 | |
Now, you're a liar, Nick. | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
Archetypal. For instance, you lied when you said you didn't know Eddie Mayfair. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
Are you tired? Well, let's see if we can keep you awake. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
We're going to solve Eddie's murder. I know it. I can feel it in my water. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
That's another of the benefits of experience. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
And when we bring his killer to trial, I'm going to make it known how much you helped me. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:23 | |
What you talking about? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
I'm talking about when I give evidence in court. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
I'm going to let your name slip. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Now, the judge will rule my remarks as hearsay and order them to be struck from the record, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
the jury told to disregard them so that no-one will have heard your name. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
Except, of course, the officials in court... | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
and the public gallery. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
-You can't do that! -Why not? I've done it before. Works a treat. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:52 | |
You bastard! You bastard! | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
Ba...argh! | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
HE CRIES IN PAIN | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
Ah, Guv'nor, the DVLA have come back negative | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
on Milton's old mate Ashley McCollin. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
He lost his license in 2004. He hit a nine-year-old girl while speeding. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
She ended up in a wheelchair and he got a three-year ban. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
The point is, he hasn't renewed his license since. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
Yeah, right. Like he's given up driving! I don't think so. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
Maybe he's got himself a chauffeur? Maybe he's got himself a bicycle. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
-HE SNORTS -Haven't you kissed and made-up yet? | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
-He won't let me. I'm not his type. -He called me a coward! | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
What did you say about boxing? What did you call it? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Nihilistic. Oh, look it up. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
For heaven's sake! Will you two just get on or get out?! | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Gerry, apologise. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:48 | |
I apologise. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
I'm very, very, sorry. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
-Brian? -What, me?! | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
-Yes, you! -Sorry. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
I just spoke to the Jamaican Justice Department in Kingston. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Kelwyn Baptiste was shot and killed during a prison break in February 2008. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
-What was he inside for? -Murder. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Where's Jack? | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Yes, the gun was hired. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
But you don't get a name. Do you understand? | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
I never saw that piece until a fortnight ago, so... | 0:30:20 | 0:30:23 | |
OK. So what about Eddie? | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Yeah, we was in Sweet Nine. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
-Come again? -Sweet Nine. We used to call ourselves after where we lived. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
SW9? Sweet Nine. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Very imaginative. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
Used to hang with guys from nearby. Gangs. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
It got heavy. Ended up with us having a set-to with a crew from Camberwell. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
Milton Joseph was on their team. Eddie cut him. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
-Cut? You mean stabbed? -Yeah. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
They ran... | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Actually, so did we. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
-So Eddie and Milton knew each other? -They hated each other. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
And if you think we were bad, these men were maniacs. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Garrido, Ashley McCollin, Kelwyn Baptiste? | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
These are serious people. D'you know what I'm saying? | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
No-one's going to give them up. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
If you want to know who fizzed Eddie, that's who you should be looking at. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
OK? | 0:31:21 | 0:31:22 | |
But you didn't hear it from me. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
MOBILE PHONE RINGS Oh? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
-Oh! Er, look, Sandra, I'm sorry, but I... -'Oh, I bet you are!' | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
I honestly thought he wouldn't talk if you were there. As it happens, he might well have done. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
-'Meaning what?' -He opened up. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
He said he rented the gun from an armourer, but wouldn't give a name. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
He also said that he and Eddie used to be in a gang in Stockwell. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
And get this. Their gang used to come up against | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-'another bunch from Camberwell starring?' -Milton Joseph. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
McCollin, Garrido... | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-'Baptiste...' -Ah, now, Kelwyn Baptiste is dead. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
He was shot busting out of a Jamaican prison in 2008. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
And back in the nineties, Eddie stabbed Milton. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
-'Stabbed him?' -Well, maybe Milton forgot to mention it? | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
Kellogg just told you all this, did he? | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
Well, perhaps it was playing on his conscience. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:18 | |
-What did you do to get him to talk? -Say that again, I didn't catch it! | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
-I said, what did you do to...? -No, you're breaking up. I'm in a tunnel. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
HE HANGS UP | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
-Time to talk, Milton. -That's it, this is harassment, man! | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
You think this is harassment? Wait till the lawyers get on your case. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
You hear that, everyone? This woman's threatening me now! | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
-Let's not do it here, where you can only embarrass yourself. -Girl, I ain't the one who looks stupid. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:52 | |
Girl? Wow, flattered. OK...if that's what you want. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
I've been going through the original notes on Eddie Mayfair's murder | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
and I can't find any mention in the interviews you did | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
-that you and he knew each other as teenagers. -That's cos we didn't. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
So you don't remember him stabbing you? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
King's College Hospital, December the 19th, 1995, 11:18pm. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
A Milton Emanuel Joseph was admitted to A&E with two knife wounds to the left buttock. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:24 | |
Not life threatening, but very humiliating. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
Come on, you lied to the original investigation. D'you want to chance your arm a second time? | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
You might want to close early. He won't be back today. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
I knew Mayfair... | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
when I was a kid. 15, 16. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
And there was a lot of times we had a beef with each other. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
But then, after he stabbed me, I ain't see him no more. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
I heard he went north of the river, but I never seen him again until the fight. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
Not till the weigh-in. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:03 | |
You must have felt very angry about being stabbed. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
You could say that. But I never killed him. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
-Is that because you got someone else to do it? -No. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
-I was going to get my revenge in the ring. -KNOCK ON DOOR, DOOR OPENS | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
Well, I can see that that will be Plan A, except he beat you up. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:21 | |
-You don't understand. -What don't I understand? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Listen to me. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
I never said nothing back then, because... | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
What? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
Because Eddie was supposed to throw the fight. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
Wasn't he, Milton? Yeah. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
The great Eddie Mayfair. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
-He was supposed to take a dive. -Except he didn't. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
No, exactly. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
-BOXING MATCH ON TV -You ever watch this? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
-No, I suppose you wouldn't. -Right, here we go. Look. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
Now I'll just rewind that. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
Now this time, here, listen. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
CROWD CHEERING | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
-Listen to what? All I can hear is... -Yeah, hang on. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
A bit more magic of sound separation and then we have... | 0:35:24 | 0:35:30 | |
'What you doing? What you playing at, man?' | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
You're supposed to go down! Go down! THE CLIP IS STOPPED | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-You're supposed to go down? -Which I presume means take a dive. Correct? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:41 | |
But if you thought he was supposed to throw the fight, and he didn't, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:45 | |
-doesn't that give you more reason to want to kill him? -No, no way. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
Look, I got...b-beat, but I still thought I might have a career. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:56 | |
That's why I never said nothing back in '99. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
-How do you know he was supposed to throw the fight? Who told you? -Kelwyn Baptiste. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
He told me not to worry, he knew for sure the fight was... | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
the fight was mine and that I was going to get a title shot. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
Well, that's great, apart from the small fact that Kelwyn is dead. So who else knew? | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
-No-one that I know of. -Oh, come on! You know you're going to win the title and don't get any mates | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
-to bet on the result? -I was told to keep my mouth shut. Seriously closed. That's the truth. I swear. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:26 | |
So what happened, they told you, but they didn't tell Eddie? | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
I don't know! Look, he was supposed to go down, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
that's all I was told. Instead he goes ape! | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
And it's me on the floor. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
It's me. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
And I'm gone. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:45 | |
Why d'you think I end up with no money? | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
Working in a lousy cafe for a living? Huh?! | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
-Where's Madam? -Oh, she's gone with Brian to see Dougie the dypso. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
-No, no, don't take your coat off. You're not stopping. -Where we going? | 0:37:03 | 0:37:07 | |
Dulwich. The National Records Office been back to me. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
-In 2004, Ashley McCollin changed his name by deed poll to Ainsley O'Connor. -Did he? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:16 | |
Yeah, his mummy's maiden name. Sweet, eh? | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
-Yeah, it's nice out there, I'll put the roof down. -We're not going in yours! | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Afternoon. How's it going? | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Well, we spoke to Milton Joseph a short time ago. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
-Oh, yeah? How's he doing? -He said something that, had you been straight with us, | 0:37:38 | 0:37:43 | |
-we would've heard from you. -I'm sorry, I don't understand. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
The fight with Eddie. Maybe it wasn't so clear-cut as it seemed? | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
-What you talking about? -Milton said the fight was supposed to have been fixed. -Fixed?! | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
-Yeah, Eddie was supposed to have thrown it. -No! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
It's a lie, he's lying. Eddie would never... | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
Doug, we're not trying to... | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
No! I'm not having you come in here casting mud on the reputation | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
of one of the finest kids that ever put on gloves. Get out! | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
Nice car. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
Nice place. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
-Thank you. -Ainsley O'Connor? | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
-You'll be from the Met. -Yes, I'm Jack Halford, this is Gerry Standing. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Unsolved Crimes and Open Case Squad. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
-We're re-investigating the murder of Eddie Mayfair. -Uh-huh. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
You used to be Ashley McCollin. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
Used to be. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:49 | |
You weren't easy to find. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
-I would hope so. I left Ashley behind a long time ago. -Because? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
Because...he was not an advantageous person to be. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
Ainsley O'Connor is... somewhat more refined. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
I'd like to talk to the other you. The one that knew Eddie Mayfair. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
Eddie who? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
You were in rival gangs when you were kids. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
Something you didn't tell the original enquiry when Eddie was murdered. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
Sit down. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
-Thank you. -Cheers. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
I don't know about now. I don't tend to have much to do with ordinary policemen, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
unless we're playing golf, but back then, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
I found they had a habit of putting two and two together and making six. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
-You were there when Eddie stabbed Milton. -Yeah, I was. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
And Milton was not happy about it. But you want to know if, four years later, Milton killed Eddie Mayfair? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:42 | |
Or got someone else to do it? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
No. And if you had proof, me or Milton would be under arrest. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
-Give us time. -Time? | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
You've had 11 years. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
HE SIGHS | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
We never killed him. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
-Kelwyn Baptiste has killed someone since. -Yeah, and Kelwyn's dead. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
What stops everyone saying he pulled the trigger? Or Steven Garrido or Mitch Graham? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:09 | |
Any of them might have done it, but not me. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
Why would I have taken such a stupid risk? | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
Because it cost you money. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
-Say what? -Because Eddie was supposed to take a dive | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
That information would've been worth a small fortune to a betting man. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
Dive? Eddie Mayfair?! | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
Correct. And you lot must have lost a fortune between yourselves. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:30 | |
Yeah, they did. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
-But not me. -What do you mean? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
I mean I didn't lose any money on that fight, because I backed Eddie. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
What, you bet on Eddie Mayfair against your own friend? | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Course I did. Yeah, I heard Eddie was supposed to go down, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
-but I ain't that stupid. -I'm not with you. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
-Whoever it was decided that fight was going to be thrown, it wasn't Eddie. -Why not? | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
Because he hated Milton! A guy like Eddie might roll over and take a count one day, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:02 | |
but in a title elimination against a guy he stabbed in the arse?! Get real. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
I knew Milton, remember, better than anyone. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
He didn't have a prayer. Look at him! He's a loser! | 0:41:10 | 0:41:14 | |
So how did you know Eddie was going to take a dive? Who told you? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
-Heard it from a friend of mine. Bookie. -Called? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
-So how did he know? -A guy from Eddie Mayfair's camp comes into my friend's shop. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:28 | |
This guy don't realise, but my friend recognises him. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
-The guy puts two grand on Milton to win. -So? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:34 | |
My friend knows of at least three other biggish bets | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
all put down by this same guy all with different bookmakers. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
All that money on their own man to lose? Doesn't take much figuring out after that. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
This "guy from the Mayfair camp" - does he have a name? | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
He's a sparring partner. Made a name for himself a few years later, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
but he didn't have what it takes either. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
-HE CLICKS HIS FINGERS -Danny Branston. Another loser. | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
So what do you reckon? Bullshit? | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Unfortunately, I don't think it was. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Listen, he might have changed his name, but I give you even money he's as bent as a nine bob note. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
-You phoning the guv'nor? -DVLA. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Doug Palmer got knocked down in the Mile End Road. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Been on a bender all afternoon. He's in the London Hospital. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
How do you feel? | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
-I feel like I need a drink. -Oh, I don't think so. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
You were paralytic when the bus hit you. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
Why did you go on a bender, Doug, straight after seeing us? | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
-Doesn't feel like a coincidence. -It never was when I got hammered. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:45 | |
I was going to say, am I in trouble? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
But it all seems a bit meaningless by comparison. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
-Trouble? -For not being totally straight with you. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
-Saying I was with Harry when Eddie died. -What, you weren't? | 0:42:55 | 0:43:00 | |
No. | 0:43:00 | 0:43:01 | |
Well, I mean, yes, I was. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
But...not just him. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
Go on. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
I was supposed to meet Harry in his room at the Dorchester. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:14 | |
When I got there... I found the two of them. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
Them? | 0:43:18 | 0:43:19 | |
Harry and Ronnie...together. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
Eddie's mum? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
Did you know they were sleeping together? | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
-No. -Did Eddie know? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
I don't know. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
According to the DVLA, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:41 | |
Ainsley O'Connor passed his driving test in 2004. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
-Four months before Ashley McCollin was banned. -Very naughty. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
But what's more to the point is that a Mr Ainsley O'Connor | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
was behind the wheel of the car in which Mitch Graham died. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
So driving while banned with a license obtained through deception | 0:43:56 | 0:44:01 | |
-and killing someone! Very, very naughty! -You still think he was telling the truth about the fight? | 0:44:01 | 0:44:06 | |
Yeah, Milton confirmed it - that's how they fell out. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
Because Milton discovered that Ainsley / Ashley bet against him. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
Despite what novels and films might say... | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
boxers throwing fights are incredibly rare, especially in this country. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
-How would anyone know? -It's very difficult to pull off. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
Bookies are alerted to unusual betting patterns very quickly. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
But if it was true and the fight was fixed? | 0:44:27 | 0:44:29 | |
-The only people with the power to fix fights are fighters, managers and promoters. -Harry Gallo. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
-Yeah, but why? -The bet. The money. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
Why would Harry Gallo risk everything with a potential gold mine in Eddie Mayfair anyway? | 0:44:37 | 0:44:42 | |
Yeah, and we also know that he and Ronnie have an alibi. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
-Danny Branston doesn't! -Well, then, you better make a move. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
Oh, Jack. Don't use your mobile when you're driving. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
Hello, Eve. | 0:44:58 | 0:44:59 | |
-Hi. -Danny there? -No, I'm afraid he's not here at the moment. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
-Eve! -Please! | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
-I told you. He's not here. -Not been gone long, though, has he? | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
What was it about? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:13 | |
-Nothing. -That's a lot of nothing. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
It's never about anything. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
Yeah, don't tell us, it only happens from time to time. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
And in a nice, big detached house like this, I doubt if anyone else can hear. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
-You don't have to put up with it, you know. -Yeah! | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
-There are places you can go. -Right! | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
Eddie ever hit you? | 0:45:33 | 0:45:35 | |
No, I didn't think so. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
-What did you want to see Danny about? -Where is he, at the yard? | 0:45:40 | 0:45:45 | |
Don't tell him! | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
That you've seen me. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
Please. | 0:45:54 | 0:45:55 | |
Don't worry. | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
You lied, you lied about your alibi at the time of Eddie's death. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
You both did. We know, because Doug Palmer just told us. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:10 | |
He told us about finding you both at the Dorchester. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
-Look, Harry and I... -Ronnie, Ronnie, it's OK, it's OK. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Yeah, we, er, did lie. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
-But that was only because Ronnie's husband never knew. -I bet he didn't. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:25 | |
We didn't mean for it to happen. We didn't want to hurt anyone. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
-Did Eddie know? -No. -You sure about that? -Yeah, course. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:32 | |
-Maybe that's why Eddie didn't take that dive, because he found out about you and his mum. -A dive?! | 0:46:32 | 0:46:37 | |
Where do you get that crap? When's he supposed to have taken this dive? | 0:46:37 | 0:46:41 | |
-He had a straight 13-win career! -The fight with Milton Joseph. | 0:46:41 | 0:46:45 | |
Oh, that fight where he put Milton in intensive care? I'm sorry, am I missing something here? | 0:46:45 | 0:46:50 | |
When Doug Palmer found out about your affair, how long did you think you could keep it secret? | 0:46:50 | 0:46:56 | |
-Did you intend to tell Eddie? -I think we're through here, don't you? | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
Danny! | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
So...find anything out? | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
I found that, the longer I work on this case, the more difficult it is to know who's telling the truth. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:23 | |
-We've been told that Eddie was supposed to throw that fight with Milton. -Now who told you that? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:28 | |
The same person who told us that you put a big bet on it. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
-Well, whoever that was, they're lying. -You see what I mean? | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
Now, you slept at Eddie's place the night before he died. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
Now, you got up an hour or so after Eddie had gone to the gym? | 0:47:39 | 0:47:43 | |
And you saw Ronnie... | 0:47:43 | 0:47:45 | |
-Eddie's mum. -Yeah, I think so. -You think so? | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
It was years ago, weren't it? I mean, what did I say at the time? | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
You said you saw Ronnie up and about. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
-Well, that's it, then. -But how could you? | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
-She was at the Dorchester. -I'm not with you. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
Ronnie Mayfair was at the Dorchester Hotel that morning. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
You see how hard my job is? Now I'm sorry to bang on about this, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
but either Ronnie was there or she wasn't. | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
-I thought I saw her when I woke up, but...maybe I was mistaken! -That's not good enough, Danny! | 0:48:12 | 0:48:17 | |
You see, out of all the people we've spoken to, you're the only one nobody saw that morning. | 0:48:17 | 0:48:23 | |
-Hold on, hold on, you're saying that I killed him? -Well, did you? | 0:48:23 | 0:48:27 | |
Me? His best mate. Why would I kill him? | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Cos you thought Eddie would lose that fight against Milton and laid down | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
eight grand in the hope of winning a great deal more. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Only it didn't quite work out that way, did it? | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
Are you out of your mind?! He was my best mate! | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
We sparred together, day in, day out. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
Every fight he had, I was there, ringside, cheering him on! | 0:48:46 | 0:48:50 | |
And when he won, it was like... | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
it was just the best feeling. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
We were like brothers! | 0:48:57 | 0:48:59 | |
Is that a fact? | 0:48:59 | 0:49:01 | |
-How'd it go with Harry and Ronnie? -Well, they admitted the affair - | 0:49:02 | 0:49:07 | |
she was quite cut up about it - but they both denied any knowledge of Eddie throwing the fight. | 0:49:07 | 0:49:11 | |
-What's this? -Oh, footage of Eddie's other fights. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:14 | |
-We could only find three. -Oh, what a shame(!) -Watch. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
Here's a fight from earlier in the year. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
-What am I supposed to be watching? -Harry, Doug, Danny. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
They're all in the ring at the end. Same as the other fights we watched. | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
Now watch this. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:32 | |
Eddie puts Milton down. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
Now watch Gallo and Branston. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:39 | |
They're leaving. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:41 | |
And that's where they were sitting. Side by side. | 0:49:41 | 0:49:44 | |
-Where have they gone? -You mean, why aren't they celebrating the greatest win in Eddie's career? | 0:49:44 | 0:49:50 | |
You see, what interests me is why this supposedly fixed fight ended up with the wrong result. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:56 | |
We know it's the wrong result, because a guy like you, who didn't have very much money at the time, | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
isn't going to lay out eight grand, unless it's a cert. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
I never had a bet in my life, let alone eight grand. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
Not one bet, a series of bets spread round different bookies. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
But don't worry. We know that most of the cash can't have been yours. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:17 | |
Only person you knew with that kind of money was Harry Gallo. | 0:50:17 | 0:50:20 | |
-Harry Gallo? -Harry thought Eddie would do as he was told. So did you. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:25 | |
-That's why you put everything on him throwing that fight. -You reckon? | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
"Every fight he had, I was there, ringside, cheering him on!" | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
That's what you said. Well, where were you that night, Danny? | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
When Eddie was up there, beating his chest?! | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
Why weren't you and Harry straight into the ring, carrying your best mate shoulder high? | 0:50:39 | 0:50:44 | |
-Cos you had nothing to celebrate, did you? You were busy making other arrangements. -Eddie's dead, | 0:50:44 | 0:50:49 | |
and the next thing we know, you've got his girl and a shot at the title. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:53 | |
People I've spoken to never rated you, Danny. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
They said you had an easy path to the title fight. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
Too easy. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
That's Eddie screaming at two empty seats - yours and Harry's. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
And he's screaming, because he knows he's had you over. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
He's won and there was nothing you could do about it. | 0:51:09 | 0:51:13 | |
And that's why you killed him. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
You got nothing. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Oh, I think we have. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:26 | |
I think we've got more than enough. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
Do you want anything? | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
Glass of water? | 0:51:42 | 0:51:43 | |
He did it, didn't he? | 0:51:50 | 0:51:52 | |
Yes. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
But I'm sorry, he's right. We haven't got enough. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:58 | |
Eve, if we can prove it, he'll go down for a long, long time. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
Long enough for you never to have to worry about him ever again, I promise you. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
He has a lock-up. It's in Tufnell Park. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:16 | |
Jack. It turns out Mr Branston is a member of a very large and very unusual gun club. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:56 | |
You took your time. Can I go now? | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
Sit down. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
I wanted to tell you something off the record. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
The reason this case got kick-started again is because the weapon | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
that killed Eddie suddenly turned up three weeks ago. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
Very stupidly, someone allowed themselves to get nicked | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
carrying that gun, having rented it from an underworld armourer. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:27 | |
Now it would be almost impossible for us to track that gun back over the years | 0:53:27 | 0:53:32 | |
and link it to anyone who might have handled it... | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
-Look, mate, my missus is going to wonder where I've got to. -In this case, it's not necessary. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
Because the person who was found with that gun has told us where he got it. | 0:53:40 | 0:53:45 | |
In fact, Nick Kellogg has been very helpful all round. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:50 | |
-No, you're full of shit. -Oh, now, don't worry. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
He'll go down for armed robbery. But he reckons that, by helping us, | 0:53:57 | 0:54:03 | |
he'll be out a lot earlier than you. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
Especially now we've got your lock up. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
No, no, no, no! This is not happening! | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
-You tell him he'll be picking up his teeth with broken fingers! -What's happening?! -What did I say? | 0:54:17 | 0:54:24 | |
You tell him, Halford, let's see how chatty he is with a broken jaw! | 0:54:24 | 0:54:27 | |
You can't keep coming here without any prior warning. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Yeah, well, I think this'll be the last time. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
Are you trying to prove something? Waltzing in... | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
Harold Ryan Gallo, I am arresting you on suspicion of involvement in the murder | 0:54:42 | 0:54:46 | |
-of Edward Terence Mayfair. -Are you out of your mind?! -Is this a joke? | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
-Danny Branston killed Eddie. -Don't be ridiculous! Rubbish! | 0:54:50 | 0:54:53 | |
-Didn't Harry tell you? -She's trying to scare you. Ignore it. It's garbage. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
Why did you give Danny an alibi, Ronnie, when you were questioned? | 0:54:57 | 0:55:01 | |
-You said you were at home with him. You were at the Dorchester. -That was... -Don't say anything. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:05 | |
Did Harry ask you to say that? | 0:55:05 | 0:55:07 | |
Did he also say that Danny would give you an alibi to safeguard your affair? | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
Harry told Eddie to throw the fight, cos he'd bet on Eddie to lose. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:15 | |
But Eddie just pretended to go along with it. And, when he won, Harry lost a small fortune. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:20 | |
That's bollocks! Why would I kill Eddie, huh?! | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
-He was a future champion! He was my champion! -Was, but not after that fight. | 0:55:24 | 0:55:28 | |
If Eddie took a dive, you would've had something over him all his life. But Eddie was smart and straight. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:34 | |
When he find out you were bent, he was off and you could do nothing, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
cos he'd say you wanted him to throw that fight, so you got Danny to kill him. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
-You are talking out of your arse! -Yeah, well, let's see what a jury thinks. Cuff him. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:47 | |
I'm really sorry. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:54 | |
The Specialist Crime Directorate reckon on two maybe three serious underworld armourers | 0:55:56 | 0:56:01 | |
operating in the South East in the last five years. Danny Branston is a real catch. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:06 | |
-I can't believe he killed his best friend. -Oh, I can. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
I think he was jealous. Constantly in Eddie's shadow. | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
A mate who has all the talent in the world, a big future, gorgeous girlfriend. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:17 | |
Then, to cap it all, he ends up by making Branston lose his shirt. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
-Do you think Eddie actually knew about his mum and Harry? -What a waste. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
Anyway, well done. Good work. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
Thank you. See, aren't you glad you got interested in boxing now? | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
Boxing? | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
Yes, very interesting. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
Right, if anybody needs me, I'm in the pub. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
-Good idea, Gerry, I'll buy you a pint. -Thank you. -Jack? | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
Can I have a word? | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
You told Danny Branston that we had an informant? | 0:56:48 | 0:56:52 | |
I told him Nick Kellogg gave him up. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
That Nick told us Danny had given him the gun. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:57 | |
-That was a lie. -Well, I prefer the word diversion. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
-You put Kellogg's life on the line. More than likely, he'll have a contract out on him now. -So what? | 0:57:01 | 0:57:06 | |
-So what?! -Yes. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
If it means that Eve Branston is now completely out of the picture, not under suspicion, | 0:57:09 | 0:57:13 | |
-she won't have to appear in the witness box... -You have absolutely no right to take that risk! | 0:57:13 | 0:57:18 | |
And what right did you have making promises to Eve Branston | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
that you couldn't possibly keep?! You told that girl she'd be safe! | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
Safe?! From a guy who slaps her about every other week? | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
-From an underworld armourer as connected as he is?! -She gave us information, because I said... | 0:57:28 | 0:57:33 | |
No! She gave us that information in spite of what you said! | 0:57:33 | 0:57:38 | |
She told us because she knew that piece of shit had killed the love of her life! | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
I have given her the best protection she could hope for. And if you think | 0:57:42 | 0:57:46 | |
I'm going to lose any sleep over someone like Nick Kellogg, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
then you really don't know me at all. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
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