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There's going to be more You're being paranoid.	:01:16.	:01:26.
Just because we're paranoid, doesn't- This is not about football,	:01:26.	:01:30.
have to make further substantial savings.	:01:30.	:01:33.
They mean cuts. I think efficiencies is the favoured term of the moment.	:01:33.	:01:36.
Nothing to do with us.	:01:36.	:01:38.
Gerry and Brian seem to think that UCOS is in the firing line. I doubt it.	:01:38.	:01:41.
Well, it is possible. Oh, anything's possible, Gerry.	:01:42.	:01:44.
There should be a call for direct action, the withdrawal of labour. Police officers can't strike, Brian.	:01:44.	:01:49.
Well, we're not officially police officers.	:01:49.	:01:52.
Exactly. We've got to decide what to do. I've got an idea.	:01:52.	:01:55.
What's that?	:01:55.	:01:57.
Why don't we stop worrying about things that might never happen and just get on with our job?	:01:57.	:02:01.
# It's all right, it's OK	:02:01.	:02:04.
# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey	:02:04.	:02:07.
# It's all right, it's OK	:02:07.	:02:09.
# Listen to what I say	:02:09.	:02:12.
# It's all right, doing fine	:02:12.	:02:15.
# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine	:02:15.	:02:17.
# It's all right, it's OK	:02:17.	:02:21.
# We're getting to the end of the day. #	:02:21.	:02:25.
March 5th, 2004, 6.10pm	:02:25.	:02:29.
A body was found in a west London alleyway.	:02:29.	:02:31.
The death was caused by a blunt force trauma	:02:31.	:02:33.
to the head, consistent with a fight and a fall.	:02:33.	:02:36.
The victim was a white male,	:02:37.	:02:39.
aged between 20 to 30 years.	:02:39.	:02:41.
And that's pretty much as far as they got.	:02:41.	:02:44.
Am I boring you, Brian?	:02:44.	:02:45.
Sorry, no, not at all, I'm just a bit tired.	:02:45.	:02:49.
No ID, no wallet.	:02:49.	:02:51.
That sounds like a robbery to me.	:02:51.	:02:53.
Yeah, except he was still wearing a fairly expensive watch.	:02:53.	:02:56.
They checked missing persons?	:02:56.	:02:58.
They couldn't find a match and no-one came forward to identify- the victim.	:02:58.	:03:02.
However, more recently it's featured as one of 70 or so	:03:02.	:03:05.
cases on a website called "Not ever..."	:03:05.	:03:08.
Not ever forgotten? Yes. Do you know it?	:03:08.	:03:10.
Yeah, it's part of a global network.	:03:10.	:03:12.
They harness the power of the internet to help solve	:03:12.	:03:15.
unexplained disappearances, unsolved cases.	:03:15.	:03:17.
That's all you need, a bunch of amateurs playing detective.	:03:17.	:03:20.
So what exactly did we get from this website?	:03:20.	:03:24.
According to one of its users, our victim is called Christopher Collins.	:03:24.	:03:27.
So, if they're right, we've got a name.	:03:28.	:03:33.
I love true crime, I always take a pile of books on holiday with me.	:03:33.	:03:39.
It's fascinating what people do but horrible as well.	:03:39.	:03:42.
Well, we know what people do. Yes, of course, you must see some things.	:03:43.	:03:48.
How long did Collins work here, Mrs Carlisle?	:03:48.	:03:51.
Lisa, please.	:03:51.	:03:53.
About six months.	:03:53.	:03:54.
The exact dates are down there.	:03:54.	:03:56.
The last day we saw him was the March 5th.	:03:57.	:04:00.
That was the day he died. And what exactly did he do here?	:04:00.	:04:03.
He was a mechanic, I didn't see much of him.	:04:03.	:04:06.
I work in the office, I don't spend- much time in the garage.	:04:06.	:04:09.
Too much testosterone?	:04:09.	:04:11.
Yes, and the calendars on every wall.	:04:11.	:04:15.
Is there anybody who would have known him better than you? You should speak to my husband.	:04:15.	:04:19.
John owns this place. Ah... Do you want to come with me?	:04:19.	:04:25.
John.	:04:25.	:04:29.
Certainly knew his way around an engine, I do remember that.	:04:29.	:04:32.
So you must have been sad to see him- go then.	:04:32.	:04:35.
A mechanic has a transferable skill, they can usually find work if they want to move on.	:04:35.	:04:39.
And did Collins ever give any indication that he was going to move on?	:04:39.	:04:42.
I don't think so.	:04:42.	:04:44.
Did he ever mention if he had any problems or he was worried about anything?	:04:44.	:04:47.
I don't mean to sound harsh but I run a business here, not a counselling service.	:04:47.	:04:53.
What about before he came here, have you any idea where he lived or where he worked?	:04:53.	:04:57.
I really can't tell you.	:04:57.	:04:59.
You didn't ask for references?	:04:59.	:05:01.
I asked him to strip a gear box down and then put it back together again.	:05:01.	:05:05.
That's all I needed to know. Fair enough.	:05:06.	:05:08.
The problem is we need to find a member of his family	:05:08.	:05:11.
so at least they can claim the body.	:05:11.	:05:13.
What happened to his body?	:05:13.	:05:15.
Victims who aren't identified simply end up in a local unmarked grave.	:05:15.	:05:18.
So anything else you can tell us would be helpful.	:05:18.	:05:21.
Well, you ought to talk to one of our mechanics, Jason.	:05:21.	:05:25.
Jason Hibbert. He was here when Collins was so he probably knew him best.	:05:25.	:05:29.
Where can we find him?	:05:29.	:05:31.
Well, he's, er, he's picking up an S class in Maidenhead at the moment.	:05:31.	:05:35.
Be back this afternoon.	:05:35.	:05:37.
Who found the body?	:05:37.	:05:42.
Brian?	:05:42.	:05:43.
Yeah?	:05:43.	:05:45.
Who found the body?	:05:45.	:05:46.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.	:05:46.	:05:49.
Er, an Alice West.	:05:49.	:05:51.
She worked at a hotel called the Maybrooke...	:05:51.	:05:54.
HE YAWNS	:05:54.	:05:56.
.. That backed on to the alley where he was found.	:05:56.	:05:58.
What is it, Brian, too many late nights?	:05:59.	:06:01.
I'm just not sleeping properly, it's driving me mad.	:06:01.	:06:05.
And Esther.	:06:05.	:06:07.
I keep moving around and waking her up.	:06:07.	:06:09.
Take a pill?	:06:09.	:06:11.
No, I'm not taking any more drugs, I need to stay sharp.	:06:11.	:06:15.
Anyway, you never know what the side effects might be.	:06:15.	:06:18.
I usually find that a glass of hot milk works for me,	:06:18.	:06:20.
but you need to put a little honey in it.	:06:20.	:06:23.
Or a handful of sesame and sunflower seeds. That always helps.	:06:23.	:06:26.
Any more suggestions?	:06:26.	:06:29.
Warm clothes.	:06:29.	:06:30.
See, what does that even mean?	:06:31.	:06:33.
Straight out of the tumble dryer.	:06:33.	:06:35.
Or you can bung a few things in themicrowave for a couple of minutes.	:06:35.	:06:38.
And what do you do with the warm clothes?	:06:38.	:06:40.
Just put them all over you, sort of snuggle up.	:06:40.	:06:46.
Well, I don't know why but it seems to work for me.	:06:46.	:06:49.
Now we've dealt with Brian's insomnia can we move on?	:06:49.	:06:53.
Well, we know Collins wasn't staying at the hotel, the original team checked that.	:06:53.	:06:57.
We've got a list of the guests here- and his name's definitely not on it.	:06:57.	:07:02.
Did Alice West see anybody else at the scene of the crime?	:07:02.	:07:04.
No, but she saw a car parked in the alley.	:07:04.	:07:06.
He was still breathing so she went in to phone for an ambulance.	:07:06.	:07:09.
When she came back again, car was gone.	:07:09.	:07:12.
She didn't get a good look at the driver and even her description	:07:12.	:07:15.
of the vehicle was vague, so not good enough to trace it.	:07:15.	:07:18.
And nobody else came forward with any information.	:07:18.	:07:22.
Why don't you and Brian go to the hotel and see	:07:22.	:07:24.
if this Alice West's still working there?	:07:24.	:07:30.
Alice.	:07:31.	:07:34.
I only went outside to have a quick fag. I don't do that any more, I've given up now.	:07:34.	:07:38.
Good for you.	:07:38.	:07:40.
Wish it wasn't me who found him.	:07:40.	:07:42.
I weren't even on a break, I was waiting for a guy in the restaurant	:07:43.	:07:46.
to leave his table so I could reset it, kept ordering more coffee.	:07:46.	:07:49.
He was sat over there. He must have had five cups.	:07:49.	:07:52.
I just thought I'd have a couple of puffs, get back but I didn't	:07:52.	:07:56.
even get to light it because	:07:56.	:07:58.
as soon as I got outside that's when I saw...	:07:58.	:08:01.
Mr Collins.	:08:01.	:08:03.
I didn't know that were his name, not until you just told me.	:08:03.	:08:06.
I knew he were hurt though.	:08:06.	:08:08.
He had blood coming from his nose and he were making this noise,	:08:08.	:08:12.
a horrible noise, like a wounded animal.	:08:12.	:08:16.
So I ran inside, told Maureen, to call an ambulance	:08:16.	:08:19.
and then I went back outside again.	:08:19.	:08:21.
I were only gone a minute but...	:08:21.	:08:24.
He weren't making any noise any more,	:08:24.	:08:27.
just lying there.	:08:27.	:08:29.
Perhaps you could show us where exactly.	:08:29.	:08:32.
It's just this way. Sorry about the bags.	:08:32.	:08:42.
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He was over here, lying on his back,	:08:45.	:08:49.
his head sort of twisted you know, looking over in this direction.	:08:49.	:08:53.
I could see right into his eyes,	:08:53.	:08:56.
as if he was pleading, help me, help me, it were...	:08:57.	:09:00.
It was...	:09:00.	:09:02.
I really don't want to think about it.	:09:02.	:09:04.
What about the car you saw?	:09:04.	:09:06.
That was parked up against the wall,- by the end there.	:09:06.	:09:11.
And you were stood there? Yeah.	:09:11.	:09:13.
And you say you didn't get a good look at the driver? No, at least maybe...	:09:13.	:09:16.
I don't know.	:09:16.	:09:18.
I know I don't remember what they looked like though.	:09:18.	:09:22.
OK. Let's get back to the car. You told the first detectives it was probably blue.	:09:22.	:09:26.
Dark blue or maybe black.	:09:26.	:09:28.
Like I said at the time, it could have been an estate	:09:28.	:09:32.
or one of those off road thingy's.I don't really know much about cars.	:09:32.	:09:36.
The truth is I weren't reallylooking at the car or who was in it.	:09:36.	:09:40.
I were looking at him.	:09:40.	:09:48.
Jason.	:09:48.	:09:50.
Jason!	:09:50.	:09:54.
Detective Superintendent Pullman and Gerry Standing.	:09:54.	:09:58.
I'll leave you to it, OK?	:09:58.	:10:01.
That's fine. Thank you. Thank you.	:10:01.	:10:04.
We'd like to talk to you about Christopher Collins.	:10:04.	:10:06.
Yeah, John explained. I suppose you know about my record.	:10:06.	:10:09.
Yeah, one conviction for assault.	:10:09.	:10:12.
15 years ago. And the boss knows about it too. No, that's not what we're here to talk about.	:10:12.	:10:17.
But he said that you knew Collins best.	:10:17.	:10:20.
I suppose that's true, I wouldn't say we were that close though.	:10:20.	:10:23.
What about outside of work?	:10:23.	:10:27.
We had the odd drink, I went to his flat a few times.	:10:27.	:10:30.
Sounds like you saw a lot of each other.	:10:30.	:10:32.
Off and on really.	:10:32.	:10:33.
The problem was I was married and he definitely wasn't, if you know what I mean.	:10:33.	:10:37.
What, he was gay? Far from it.	:10:37.	:10:40.
Oh, he liked the ladies?	:10:40.	:10:41.
And they liked him too. He looked the part and he was a nice guy.	:10:41.	:10:45.
Anyone in particular? No, I don't think so.	:10:45.	:10:48.
I think that was the point really. Did he live with anyone?	:10:48.	:10:52.
No, all on his own in a council place.	:10:52.	:10:54.
Nice though. Three bedrooms, balcony.	:10:54.	:10:57.
What about at work, did you notice him having any problems?	:10:57.	:11:00.
No, nothing like that. The boss is a decent guy and everyone just gets- on with the job.	:11:00.	:11:04.
Yeah, but what about when he disappeared,	:11:04.	:11:07.
didn't you think it was odd that he just dropped out of sight?	:11:07.	:11:10.
I suppose I should have at the time- but I didn't really...	:11:10.	:11:14.
He gave me the impression he had other things going on.	:11:14.	:11:17.
What sort of other things?	:11:17.	:11:19.
He never said, and I never pushed him.	:11:19.	:11:22.
When he left I just figured that whatever it was had come in.	:11:22.	:11:25.
Something back in Basingstoke probably.	:11:25.	:11:27.
Why Basingstoke?	:11:27.	:11:29.
That's where he came from, at least- I think that's what he told me.	:11:29.	:11:33.
Of course, if there's anything else- we can do...	:11:33.	:11:36.
John, I've got Mark Tanner on the phone.	:11:36.	:11:39.
I'm sorry, I've got to take this. Thanks for all your help, Mr Carlisle.	:11:39.	:11:42.
Well, I've got three ex wives, I can't imagine working with any of them.	:11:42.	:11:46.
Maybe that's where you went wrong, Gerry. Yeah, maybe.	:11:46.	:11:50.
So Collins worked here for six months	:11:50.	:11:52.
and nobody seems to know anything about him.	:11:52.	:11:54.
We do know one thing though, we know he was lucky.	:11:55.	:11:57.
How do you work that out?	:11:57.	:11:59.
How else does a single man get a three bedroom council flat?	:11:59.	:12:04.
Yeah.	:12:04.	:12:08.
I can't find any trace of Collins in Basingstoke. Me neither.	:12:08.	:12:12.
Not where he worked, where he lived.- Nothing.	:12:12.	:12:15.
What about bank details? His wages were paid into a local branch in Slough.	:12:15.	:12:19.
The account was only opened six months before he died.	:12:19.	:12:22.
About the same time he started at the garage? Looks like it.	:12:23.	:12:25.
It's like he just appeared one day out of nowhere.	:12:25.	:12:29.
Sounds like he's hiding from somebody.	:12:29.	:12:31.
Except then you throw in the three bedroom council flat,	:12:31.	:12:35.
which he couldn't have got without help.	:12:35.	:12:37.
It sounds more like somebody was hiding him.	:12:37.	:12:42.
I'll make some calls in the morning- to confirm it.	:12:42.	:12:46.
What would you do if they do close us down?	:12:46.	:12:49.
They've got to make cuts somewhere.- They might treat us as an easy target.	:12:49.	:12:52.
With our track record. They wouldn't dare.	:12:52.	:12:55.
It doesn't matter to me but you might find yourself in a very awkward situation.	:12:55.	:12:59.
What would you do? I haven't thought about it, Jack.	:12:59.	:13:02.
It's about time you did.	:13:02.	:13:03.
They could shove you into the nearest vacancy.	:13:03.	:13:06.
You could end up anywhere. Talk to Strickland.	:13:06.	:13:09.
Put a few feelers out.	:13:09.	:13:10.
See if there's anything you haven't been told.	:13:11.	:13:13.
OK.	:13:13.	:13:17.
Oh, I'm sure there's nothing in it.- They'd tell you all if there was.	:13:18.	:13:22.
Oh, don't be naive, we'd be the last people to find out.	:13:22.	:13:27.
Well, worrying about UCOS isn't going to help you with getting to sleep.	:13:27.	:13:32.
I wish you'd at least consider my suggestion.	:13:32.	:13:35.
I have considered it.	:13:35.	:13:36.
Mary Blyth hasn't had a single cigarette since she finished	:13:36.	:13:39.
her course with him, he comes very highly recommended.	:13:39.	:13:42.
Go on, he's a quack.	:13:42.	:13:45.
This guy does not do a stage show.	:13:45.	:13:50.
He's a highly qualified therapist.	:13:50.	:13:53.
I bet he sells snake oil at weekends	:13:53.	:13:55.
Well, we've got to do something. We can't go on like this.	:13:55.	:13:58.
Yeah, I'm working on it.	:13:58.	:14:01.
You've already tried the hot milk.	:14:01.	:14:04.
No, the honey's the important bit.	:14:04.	:14:07.
The natural sugars stimulate serotonin and induce a calm and peaceful state.	:14:07.	:14:14.
Are you thinking about feeding the birds as well?	:14:14.	:14:16.
These are sesame and sunflower seeds	:14:16.	:14:20.
They're both excellent sources of magnesium which has proved to	:14:20.	:14:24.
be a muscle relaxant.	:14:25.	:14:27.
And you're calling him a quack.	:14:27.	:14:33.
Eeww.	:14:33.	:14:43.
	:14:43.	:14:43.
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 66 seconds	:14:43.	:15:49.
What are you do...	:15:49.	:15:52.
What on earth are you doing?	:15:52.	:15:56.
Oh, It was Gerry's idea.	:15:56.	:15:58.
Yes. Of course it was.	:15:58.	:16:01.
I'm making you an appointment.	:16:01.	:16:11.
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Morning.	:16:15.	:16:18.
Who the hell is Thomas Barton?	:16:18.	:16:20.
The real name of our victim. We were right, he was being hidden.	:16:20.	:16:24.
He was in the witness protection program. Uh!	:16:24.	:16:27.
And nobody noticed he'd gone missing?	:16:27.	:16:29.
Apparently not. Who was he giving evidence against?	:16:29.	:16:32.
A gang of six, led by Derek Robinson	:16:32.	:16:35.
Robinson?	:16:36.	:16:37.
Smiley Robinson.	:16:37.	:16:39.
Was that 2003... He got a 25 year stretch for drug smuggling.	:16:39.	:16:45.
Yeah, it took a nine month sting to even put him	:16:45.	:16:47.
in the same place as the coke.	:16:47.	:16:49.
He had a team at Felixstowe docks to get stuff through customs.	:16:49.	:16:53.
And that's where Barton he worked as the mechanic down there, servicing the machinery.	:16:53.	:16:57.
And was he in Robinson's operation?	:16:57.	:17:00.
Well, not according to the report.	:17:00.	:17:02.
He was just an ordinary guy who decided to do the right thing.	:17:02.	:17:05.
And look where that got him.	:17:05.	:17:07.
As I made clear on the phone, this all happened well before my time here.	:17:07.	:17:10.
The witness protection unit is now a well oiled machine.	:17:10.	:17:13.
We understand you didn't have any contact with Barton.	:17:13.	:17:16.
We'd like to speak to his handler.	:17:16.	:17:18.
That's not possible, I'm afraid. Barton was dealt with by a DS called Andrew Hughes	:17:18.	:17:22.
but Hughes no longer works for us.	:17:22.	:17:23.
So what can you tell us then?	:17:23.	:17:25.
Whatever's in his file.	:17:25.	:17:26.
Just tell me where you'd like to start.	:17:26.	:17:29.
As a protected witness, Barton should have been flagged. I agree...	:17:29.	:17:32.
If the investigation had known his identity they might have made progress.	:17:32.	:17:36.
I can appreciate... So why wasn't he flagged?	:17:36.	:17:39.
I'm sure you can understand anything connected with this office is a delicate matter.	:17:39.	:17:43.
It's a murder investigation, DI Hornby.	:17:43.	:17:46.
Delicate doesn't come in to it.	:17:46.	:17:49.
From what I can gather, there was a period in late 2003	:17:49.	:17:52.
when concerns were raised about information integrity.	:17:52.	:17:55.
Information integrity? What the hell is that?	:17:55.	:17:58.
I think he's trying to tell us that they had a leak. Uh.	:17:58.	:18:02.
HE CACKLES	:18:02.	:18:03.
What?	:18:03.	:18:06.
Well, according to this,the jury had to be sent out of court	:18:06.	:18:11.
because Robinson started singing in the dock.	:18:11.	:18:15.
Singing? Yeah, while Barton was giving evidence against him,	:18:15.	:18:19.
Robinson burst in to a well known Vera Lynn classic.	:18:19.	:18:22.
Don't tell me. We'll Meet Again? Yeah.	:18:22.	:18:26.
It's all right, Gerry. I get the picture.	:18:26.	:18:30.
Things have tightened up considerably since then.	:18:30.	:18:33.
A horse and a stable door... What made the department think there was a leak?	:18:33.	:18:37.
To my predecessor's shame the identities of witnesses	:18:37.	:18:40.
from various cases were compromised.	:18:40.	:18:42.
Sounds more probable than possible to me.	:18:42.	:18:45.
These people are meant to be protected.	:18:45.	:18:47.
They risk their lives by giving evidence	:18:47.	:18:50.
and then you don't even notice when one of them disappears!	:18:50.	:18:53.
Barton slipped through a crack - it's regrettable but I wasn't personally involved.	:18:53.	:18:57.
Yes, you've made that crystal clear.	:18:57.	:18:59.
I do know however that there was a full investigation and nothing was ever proven.	:18:59.	:19:03.
So how far did this investigation get?	:19:03.	:19:06.
Each member of our staff was assessed, our systems were overhauled,	:19:06.	:19:10.
every facet of our operation was dissected.	:19:10.	:19:13.
I can assure you that it was a very thorough job.	:19:13.	:19:17.
He wouldn't know a thorough job if it bit him on the bum.	:19:17.	:19:20.
Yeah, but if there was a leak it would explain how Barton was found.	:19:20.	:19:25.
Is it possible that Hughes could be the source?	:19:25.	:19:27.
If they'd had any evidence they'd of charged him.	:19:27.	:19:30.
Even if he wasn't, he might be able to tell us what was actually going on.	:19:30.	:19:34.
Like if Barton was having problems.- I mean if he knew someone had found him,	:19:34.	:19:37.
he might have gone to Hughes for help.	:19:37.	:19:39.
Well, of course we do know who'd have been looking for him.	:19:39.	:19:49.
	:19:49.	:19:58.
Who?	:19:58.	:19:59.
I'm not here to mess around, Mr Robinson.	:19:59.	:20:02.
How disappointing.	:20:02.	:20:03.
When I started out that's all female- coppers were there for.	:20:03.	:20:08.
That and to make the tea.	:20:08.	:20:10.
How times have changed.	:20:10.	:20:12.
Well, not for the better.	:20:12.	:20:14.
Back then we all knew where we stood.	:20:14.	:20:16.
Tell us about Thomas Barton.	:20:16.	:20:19.
That name does sound familiar.	:20:19.	:20:23.
If you don't want to answer then I'll just have to assume you were involved in his murder.	:20:23.	:20:28.
I'll take that as yes, then.	:20:28.	:20:31.
We're leaving. No, don't go.	:20:31.	:20:33.
I mean we haven't got to know each other properly yet.	:20:33.	:20:37.
I enjoy a bit of company,	:20:38.	:20:41.
especially when it's wearing a skirt.	:20:41.	:20:44.
I don't get out as much as I'd like.	:20:44.	:20:46.
Should be used to that by now. You never get used to it.	:20:46.	:20:49.
My kids are growing up,	:20:49.	:20:52.
my wife is getting old.	:20:52.	:20:54.
My whole life is passing me by.	:20:54.	:20:58.
Rumour is you're still running your own business.	:20:58.	:21:02.
Yeah, well you don't want to believe everything you hear. What about what we read?	:21:02.	:21:06.
I'm going to need a bit more than that to go on.	:21:06.	:21:08.
I had a look at the case files and I particularly enjoyed	:21:08.	:21:12.
the description of you serenading Barton in the witness box.	:21:12.	:21:15.
I've got quite a voice when I get warmed up.	:21:15.	:21:19.
Mostly the classics, you know, Sinatra, Bacharach,	:21:19.	:21:22.
a little bit of Matt Monro.	:21:22.	:21:25.
Course you had to be there to get the full effect.	:21:25.	:21:28.
I think we got the gist of it.	:21:28.	:21:29.
Look, you wanted Barton dead for what he did	:21:29.	:21:33.
and you were going to make sure you found him again.	:21:33.	:21:36.
Thomas Barton?	:21:36.	:21:38.
Yeah, it turns out that that was actually his real name.	:21:38.	:21:41.
He was relocated as part of the witness protection scheme.	:21:41.	:21:44.
Did he ever seem nervous to any of you?	:21:44.	:21:47.
Like he was worried about something?	:21:47.	:21:50.
Did I say something funny?	:21:50.	:21:52.
No, it's just he really wasn't the nervous type, that's all.	:21:52.	:21:57.
I mean the guy had front, you know,- whatever he was doing.	:21:57.	:21:59.
Did anyone ever come here looking for him?	:21:59.	:22:02.
No, no, nothing like that.	:22:02.	:22:05.
Mr Carlisle?	:22:05.	:22:09.
Ah, well, it wasn't that exactly, it's, it's probably nothing.	:22:09.	:22:13.
Why don't you tell us anyway?	:22:13.	:22:15.
Well, he did ask about a client he'd seen in the office once, wanted to know the guy's name.	:22:15.	:22:20.
And who was this client?	:22:20.	:22:22.
I can't remember. Anyway after I had told him...	:22:22.	:22:26.
Collins, Barton, sorry getting confused.	:22:26.	:22:29.
Uh... Well, he seemed OK again.	:22:29.	:22:32.
But you think he mistook the client for someone else?	:22:32.	:22:35.
Well, that's what it seemed like, yeah.	:22:35.	:22:40.
You still pull all the strings, Mr Robinson,	:22:40.	:22:43.
and even banged up in here you've got a long reach.	:22:43.	:22:46.
Well, that's very sweet	:22:46.	:22:48.
but I think you're giving me a little too much credit.	:22:48.	:22:51.
But you don't deny you wanted Barton dead?	:22:51.	:22:54.
There wouldn't be much point in that now would there?	:22:54.	:22:56.
Oh, well we must have got it wrong.	:22:56.	:22:58.
You're actually a reformed character.	:22:59.	:23:02.
I've seen the error of my ways, I've repented, made peace with the world.	:23:02.	:23:07.
You think you've got away with it but you are so wrong.	:23:07.	:23:10.
Don't tell me what I think.	:23:10.	:23:13.
In here I'm told when to eat, when to sleep and when to crap.	:23:13.	:23:20.
But the one thing nobody can tell me is what I think.	:23:20.	:23:25.
Yeah, yeah, I think I wanted Barton dead.	:23:25.	:23:30.
But, then, I think we don't always get what we want, do we, Detective Superintendent?	:23:30.	:23:37.
Not always but every now and then.	:23:37.	:23:40.
I wasn't the only one that Barton put away.	:23:40.	:23:45.
If that's an accusation you have to be more specific.	:23:45.	:23:48.
That's not an accusation, that's just a fact.	:23:48.	:23:55.
You know Barton's evidence put six men inside.	:23:55.	:23:59.
Only one of them was out of prisonwhen he was killed, Anthony Walters.	:23:59.	:24:04.
He was one of the drivers on Robinson's crew.	:24:04.	:24:07.
Now he only served 18 months.	:24:07.	:24:17.
	:24:17.	:24:26.
Sorry lads, not tonight.	:24:26.	:24:29.
Your name Anthony Walters?	:24:29.	:24:30.
It doesn't matter who gave you my name, I can't let you in.	:24:30.	:24:33.
Not even with this?	:24:33.	:24:37.
Two minutes, Al.	:24:37.	:24:47.
	:24:47.	:24:56.
You're wasting your time, I've got nothing to say about Barton.	:24:56.	:25:02.
Not even a bad word or two?	:25:02.	:25:04.
After all it was his evidence that put you inside.	:25:04.	:25:07.
That was a long time ago, I moved down here to put it behind me.	:25:07.	:25:11.
I've got a new life. Yeah, I can see that.	:25:11.	:25:14.
It must have been tough getting your SIA licence with a serious conviction on your record.	:25:14.	:25:20.
You do have your SIA licence don't you, Anthony?	:25:20.	:25:23.
I've got a little boy now, I'm trying to earn a living here.	:25:23.	:25:27.
We'll take that as a "no", shall we?	:25:27.	:25:29.
The bad news is that working the doors without a licence is illegal,	:25:29.	:25:34.
the good news is thatit's not really our area of interest.	:25:34.	:25:38.
Unless, of course, we decide to become interested.	:25:38.	:25:43.
I'm not surprised someone killed Barton, there was a long list of people that wanted him dead.	:25:43.	:25:49.
From what we hear, you were pretty near the top of that list.	:25:49.	:25:53.
I wasn't on it at all. I never saw him again after the trial.	:25:53.	:25:57.
But you must have been angry. Why?	:25:57.	:26:00.
I could've got off, I chose not to.- How do you mean?	:26:00.	:26:04.
You were offered a deal to testify?	:26:04.	:26:06.
You lot were desperate to put Robinson away, that's all that mattered.	:26:06.	:26:10.
I was told to think about it, I For a minute...	:26:10.	:26:13.
If you'd said "yes", you could have avoided going inside.	:26:13.	:26:17.
I did 18 months.	:26:18.	:26:21.
If I'd given evidence against Robinson it would be like doing a life sentence.	:26:21.	:26:25.
Every night I'd be checking the locks, looking over my shoulder.	:26:25.	:26:29.
I didn't want to live like that so I kept my mouth shut.	:26:29.	:26:32.
Unlike Barton. That was his choice.	:26:32.	:26:36.
Hughes left his jobat Witness Protection in April 2004,	:26:36.	:26:40.
that's a month after Barton was killed. Where did he go?	:26:41.	:26:44.
He's dropped through the grid, there's no record of him getting another job.	:26:44.	:26:48.
The address they gave me was years out of date but I tracked him down through the electoral role.	:26:48.	:26:53.
I'll get my bag.	:26:53.	:26:54.
Is now a good time, Sandra?	:26:54.	:26:56.
We were just leaving. I'll come back.	:26:56.	:26:59.
No, it's all right. Come in to my office. OK.	:26:59.	:27:03.
I'll wait, then.	:27:03.	:27:06.
I know it sounds ridiculous but I thought I'd ask anyway.	:27:06.	:27:11.
Does sound ridiculous, doesn't it?	:27:11.	:27:14.
Not entirely, I'm afraid.	:27:14.	:27:16.
You mean UCOS is under threat? Everything's under threat.	:27:16.	:27:20.
Half the force spends more time looking for savings than it does criminals.	:27:21.	:27:24.
The other half is worried about being forced into early retirement.	:27:24.	:27:28.
I think Spain will become so popular they'll have to rename it Costa del Cop.	:27:28.	:27:33.
I'll try to remember and avoid that.	:27:33.	:27:35.
Some units might disappear, others will just have to cut their cloth according to what's available.	:27:35.	:27:40.
You mean lose personnel? Possibly.	:27:40.	:27:43.
If that's judged to be the best use of resources. I'd find that totally unacceptable.	:27:43.	:27:48.
This is a macro issue Sandra, not a micro one.	:27:48.	:27:51.
I hate to admit it but this goes far higher than me, higher than the person above me.	:27:51.	:27:57.
Can't you find out if we're being talked about?	:27:57.	:28:01.
I'll twist some arms, see what I can pick up.	:28:01.	:28:11.
	:28:11.	:28:22.
He's certainly done all right for himself.	:28:22.	:28:25.
Especially for a man with no visible means of support. Yeah.	:28:25.	:28:30.
Excuse me. Can I help you?	:28:30.	:28:33.
Andrew Hughes? Yeah.	:28:33.	:28:37.
Are you sure I can't get you anything? Coffee, tea, soft drink?	:28:37.	:28:41.
No, I'm fine. No, not for me, thanks.	:28:41.	:28:43.
Do you like it?	:28:43.	:28:45.
Well, to be quite honest, I don't really know.	:28:45.	:28:48.
I suppose that makes it thought provoking at least.	:28:48.	:28:54.
What do you think?	:28:54.	:28:56.
I think it looks expensive.	:28:56.	:28:59.
Oh, it was. One of those things I just had to have.	:28:59.	:29:02.
Just like this house I suppose and all those cars outside.	:29:02.	:29:06.
I thought you wanted to talk to me about Thomas Barton. We do. Barton's dead.	:29:06.	:29:12.
I didn't know. What happened? He was murdered by somebody he gave evidence against.	:29:12.	:29:16.
The question is, how did they find him?	:29:16.	:29:17.
And that information would be worth- an awful lot of money.	:29:17.	:29:22.
You think I was paid for information? You think that's where- all this comes from?	:29:22.	:29:28.
You don't work, Mr Hughes, as far as we can tell. So that's one possibility, yeah.	:29:28.	:29:38.
	:29:38.	:29:39.
What am I looking at?	:29:39.	:29:42.
The other possibility.	:29:42.	:29:44.
My wife, Vicky.	:29:44.	:29:45.
Woah. This is really nice.	:29:45.	:29:48.
Vicky is a Riley, as in Riley's Auction House.	:29:48.	:29:53.
She runs it now that her father's retired.	:29:53.	:29:55.
And you just stay at home? Well, I look after the kids.	:29:55.	:29:59.
It's not that unusual.	:29:59.	:30:01.
Take us back to witness protection, Mr Hughes. Thank you.	:30:01.	:30:04.
I did my job, I did everything I could.	:30:04.	:30:06.
But you didn't notice that Barton was missing.	:30:06.	:30:09.
We couldn't baby-sit people 24/7 - there wasn't the resources.	:30:09.	:30:13.
It's not like in the movies, there's no big house or armed guards.	:30:13.	:30:18.
But we heard there was a suspected leak.	:30:18.	:30:20.
There's always a suspected leak, it's the kind of place it is.	:30:20.	:30:23.
What, security conscious?	:30:23.	:30:26.
Paranoid.	:30:26.	:30:27.
I'm sure that can be a useful quality in this line of work	:30:27.	:30:30.
but in this instance it went too far. There was never any leak.	:30:30.	:30:35.
People just got careless.	:30:35.	:30:38.
Some people can leave their old lives behind and others can't.	:30:38.	:30:42.
The isolation gets to them, so they- try to make contact with someone.	:30:42.	:30:45.
An old friend or member of the family and once that happens, all bets are off.	:30:45.	:30:52.
Yeah, but we know that Barton didn't have any close family.	:30:52.	:30:55.
That's not strictly true, he had a half brother,	:30:55.	:30:58.
living in Canada, I think.	:30:58.	:30:59.
No, with Barton it wouldn't have been a person he missed,	:30:59.	:31:01.
more a way of life.	:31:01.	:31:03.
What as a mechanic at the docks?	:31:03.	:31:05.
As a criminal.	:31:05.	:31:06.
What do you mean?	:31:06.	:31:07.
Importing drugs.	:31:07.	:31:09.
I don't understand, we were led to believe he wasn't involved.	:31:09.	:31:13.
Oh, he was involved.	:31:13.	:31:15.
Why isn't it mentioned in the files?	:31:15.	:31:17.
Because it's against CPS policy to do a deal that involves no jail time.	:31:17.	:31:21.
And Barton wouldn't have talked if it meant spending one night inside.	:31:21.	:31:26.
I'm not saying he was top of the food chain but he was halfway up.	:31:26.	:31:31.
He was climbing and ambitious. Just look at his relationship with Robinson's daughter.	:31:31.	:31:35.
Robinson's daughter?	:31:35.	:31:38.
Caroline, the apple of her father's eye.	:31:38.	:31:40.
They were an item.	:31:40.	:31:43.
There was a rumour that they were going to get married.	:31:43.	:31:45.
He would have ended up criminal royalty.	:31:45.	:31:47.
Instead of working in a garage in Slough.	:31:47.	:31:51.
That's certainly not the life he would have wanted.	:31:51.	:31:54.
Maybe this is what I should do. What?	:31:54.	:31:56.
If UCOS gets cut, you know?	:31:56.	:31:58.
You mean find a rich woman to keep you in a style to which you are not accustomed?	:31:58.	:32:02.
What's so funny about that?	:32:02.	:32:04.
Nothing, Gerry. You're a real catch.- Now get in.	:32:04.	:32:09.
You know, I'm sure it's just a phase,	:32:09.	:32:12.
I'll be through it any time now.	:32:12.	:32:14.
Probably tonight.	:32:14.	:32:17.
I'm already feeling a bit tired, now I think about it.	:32:17.	:32:21.
DOOR OPENS	:32:21.	:32:24.
Brian Lane.	:32:24.	:32:32.
Either you go through that door oryou're sleeping on the sofa tonight.	:32:32.	:32:37.
I'll slip a disc if I sleep on that sofa.	:32:37.	:32:40.
Well, it's your choice.	:32:40.	:32:44.
This way please.	:32:44.	:32:46.
Before we start, I want to make one thing very clear.	:32:46.	:32:49.
Whatever happens, I'm not shutting me eyes.	:32:49.	:32:59.
	:32:59.	:33:00.
Hypnotherapy comes in many different guises Mr Lane,	:33:00.	:33:05.
what I'd like to do first - is get you to relax.	:33:05.	:33:08.
That's easier said than done.	:33:08.	:33:10.
Well, let's give it a try anyway.	:33:10.	:33:13.
How did you come here today?	:33:13.	:33:15.
What's that got to do with anything?	:33:15.	:33:17.
I'm just making conversation.	:33:17.	:33:21.
I came on a bus, but, unusually, it was an orange bus,	:33:21.	:33:24.
I'd never seen one before.	:33:24.	:33:25.
An orange bus? That's right.	:33:25.	:33:28.
But I don't want you to think about that, that's not important.	:33:28.	:33:32.
We could start with breathing exercises.	:33:32.	:33:34.
Me breathing's fine. I'm sure it is,	:33:34.	:33:37.
but if you could just follow me. So...	:33:37.	:33:39.
inhale and exhale,	:33:39.	:33:44.
inhale and exhale...	:33:44.	:33:47.
And as you exhale, the muscles in your chest relax.	:33:47.	:33:51.
And what we're going to do is hitch a ride on that natural moment of relaxation.	:33:51.	:33:56.
Inhale and exhale...	:33:56.	:34:01.
What are you thinking about?	:34:01.	:34:06.
What's going through your mind?	:34:06.	:34:08.
Well, if you must know, it's that bloody orange bus.	:34:08.	:34:12.
And that's because I told you not to.	:34:12.	:34:13.
Can't get it out me head.	:34:13.	:34:15.
It's the same principle when you're trying to sleep.	:34:15.	:34:18.
You're telling yourself to do something	:34:18.	:34:20.
and that has the knock on effect of it becoming the last thing you can actually do.	:34:20.	:34:24.
So, inhale and exhale.	:34:24.	:34:29.
Inhale and exhale...	:34:29.	:34:39.
	:34:39.	:34:54.
I spoke to my father, I wondered how long it would take you.	:34:54.	:34:57.
Detective Superintendent Pullman, this is Gerry Standing.	:34:58.	:35:01.
One thing he taught me was to recognise a copper.	:35:01.	:35:03.
What else did he teach you?	:35:03.	:35:05.
Not to speak to them either.	:35:05.	:35:08.
But I decided to ignore that lesson.	:35:08.	:35:13.
We understand that you were close to Thomas Barton.	:35:13.	:35:17.
If I'd have married Tommie, I'd have made my bed.	:35:17.	:35:19.
I know I had a lucky escape.	:35:20.	:35:22.
Well, it must have made you really angry.	:35:22.	:35:25.
I mean, the man you were in love with betraying your father?	:35:25.	:35:29.
My father understood the game, he'd played it his whole life.	:35:29.	:35:32.
And I didn't love Tommie, it wouldn't have lasted.	:35:32.	:35:36.
I always knew Tommie was selfish, everything was always about him, about what he wanted.	:35:36.	:35:41.
And he had the charm to get away with that... For a while at least.	:35:41.	:35:46.
When did you last see him?	:35:46.	:35:49.
About a couple of hours before my father was arrested.	:35:49.	:35:52.
Tommie knew exactly what was about to happen,	:35:52.	:35:55.
but he asked me where I'd like to have dinner,	:35:55.	:35:58.
he didn't even miss a beat.	:35:58.	:36:00.
And you've never had any contact since?	:36:00.	:36:02.
No, of course not.	:36:02.	:36:04.
I certainly didn't go looking for him and he never came looking for me.	:36:04.	:36:08.
Would you have told your father if he had?	:36:08.	:36:10.
You mean, would I have asked my father to kill him? If you like.	:36:10.	:36:14.
You want to know if I was angry.	:36:14.	:36:16.
Well, the truth is I wasn't. I didn't care enough about Tommie to be angry.	:36:16.	:36:23.
Does that answer your question?	:36:23.	:36:25.
Orange buses and explaining how to get air into my own lungs.	:36:26.	:36:31.
I might as well have taken the money and flushed it down the toilet.	:36:31.	:36:35.
I thought he seemed very good. Good?!	:36:35.	:36:38.
He's Mickey Mouse.	:36:38.	:36:41.
I've a good mind to report him for violation of the Trade Descriptions Act.	:36:41.	:36:45.
You've got to give him a chance, three sessions he said.	:36:45.	:36:51.
Mary had at least six.	:36:52.	:36:54.
When have you booked your next session?	:36:54.	:37:00.
Brian?	:37:00.	:37:06.
You did book your next session, didn't you, Brian?	:37:06.	:37:16.
	:37:16.	:37:26.
Morning. Brian.	:37:26.	:37:29.
Bright and early, Brian. I've had my first good night's sleep in a month.	:37:29.	:37:32.
Glad to hear it.	:37:32.	:37:34.
Was it the warm clothes? It was not.	:37:34.	:37:39.
Ah. What?	:37:39.	:37:41.
I'm going through all the prison visitors Robinson's had before Barton was killed, right.	:37:41.	:37:46.
It's the same old friends, family associates,	:37:46.	:37:48.
but none of them stand out at all.	:37:48.	:37:50.
Down here, I found a name we do know, Anthony Walters.	:37:51.	:37:54.
Walters visited Robinson in prison?	:37:54.	:37:57.
He wouldn't be that stupid.	:37:57.	:37:59.
He visited another bloke in the same nick so he could get a message to Robinson.	:37:59.	:38:04.
To let him know he'd seen Barton.	:38:04.	:38:06.
Well, exactly.	:38:06.	:38:08.
You told me you'd leave me alone. We had a deal.	:38:08.	:38:11.
I don't make deals, Mr Walters, but if I ever made an exception,	:38:11.	:38:15.
it'd be based on you telling the truth.	:38:15.	:38:17.
Which so far you haven't managed to do, so why don't you tell us about your prison visit?	:38:17.	:38:22.
I didn't see Robinson. Maybe not but you saw someone on his wing.	:38:22.	:38:25.
Look, all I've ever tried to do is keep my nose clean.	:38:25.	:38:29.
If that's the truth, you've got nothing to worry about, have you?	:38:29.	:38:32.
Even if it's not, you're still better off talking to us.	:38:32.	:38:42.
	:38:42.	:38:42.
Barton came to see me.	:38:42.	:38:45.
I didn't look for him, he just turned up, like nothing had ever happened.	:38:45.	:38:49.
What did he want? He wanted me to get back into the drugs game.	:38:49.	:38:53.
He told me he was setting up a was working on getting a supplier board. He was ready to go. on deal,	:38:53.	:39:00.
I said no, of course I did.	:39:00.	:39:03.
I wasn't interested, not now and not then.	:39:04.	:39:06.
And I warned him that there'd be trouble if he got involved again.	:39:06.	:39:10.
But you gave the information to Robinson?	:39:10.	:39:13.
I didn't want anything to do with either of them.	:39:13.	:39:16.
Not Barton or Robinson.	:39:16.	:39:18.
But if somebody found out I'd seen Barton and not said anything...	:39:18.	:39:21.
Robinson would've come after you.	:39:21.	:39:24.
Finally, the penny's dropped.	:39:24.	:39:27.
I wouldn't try and be too clever, Mr Walters.	:39:27.	:39:29.
If Robinson arranged Barton's murder using information you gave him,	:39:30.	:39:33.
you could be charged as an accessory. No, no way. That's not possible.	:39:33.	:39:37.
But you told Robinson where he could find Barton.	:39:37.	:39:40.
No I didn't, I didn't know.	:39:40.	:39:42.
When I said I wasn't interested, he disappeared again.	:39:42.	:39:45.
He didn't tell me how to contact him - I didn't ask.	:39:45.	:39:49.
Anyway, Robinson wouldn't have needed me.	:39:49.	:39:52.
What do you mean?	:39:52.	:39:54.
If Barton was getting back in the drugs game,	:39:54.	:39:58.
Robinson wouldn't have to look very far, would he?	:39:58.	:40:04.
< If you wouldn't mind, John.	:40:04.	:40:06.
Yeah, it's an ongoing murder investigation. Yeah, I'll hold. Thanks.	:40:06.	:40:10.
Robinson had a network of contacts which involved people flying around Europe for meetings.	:40:10.	:40:15.
They used to get together in hotels, just like ordinary businessmen and one of the hotels...	:40:15.	:40:20.
Was the Maybrooke. Yeah. So we'll have to go back over the people staying there.	:40:20.	:40:24.
I'm already on it. Yeah, fire ahead.	:40:24.	:40:26.
Yeah, got him, great. Yeah, and where is that?	:40:27.	:40:32.
Hey, John, thanks for that, mate. I really appreciate it.	:40:32.	:40:35.
Cheers, take care.	:40:35.	:40:38.
That was an old pal of mine from the Drug Squad,	:40:38.	:40:41.
I gave him the hotel guest list and asked if anybody stood out...	:40:41.	:40:45.
Henrik De Groot.	:40:45.	:40:47.
He works for one of the major players in the Amsterdam drug scene.	:40:47.	:40:52.
Chances are the same people that Robinson has been dealing with for years.	:40:52.	:40:56.
So all Robinson had to do was put the word out and get them to play along.	:40:56.	:41:00.
And De Groot's boss agrees to sell to Barton and sets up a meeting at the Maybrooke.	:41:00.	:41:04.
But really, De Groot's there tokill him, on the orders of Robinson.	:41:05.	:41:09.
So he waits in the car outside and when your man shows up, no more Barton.	:41:09.	:41:12.
Well, Alice West saw somebody in the car.	:41:12.	:41:16.
Not well enough to describe him, though.	:41:16.	:41:18.
Well, maybe De Groot's face will jog her memory.	:41:18.	:41:21.
Alice, we want you to look at these photographs very carefully.	:41:21.	:41:26.
Take your time, Alice, there's no rush.	:41:26.	:41:33.
This one, I recognise him.	:41:33.	:41:37.
Are you absolutely sure?	:41:37.	:41:39.
Yeah, a hundred percent.	:41:39.	:41:41.
Alice, was this the man in the car?- The car?	:41:41.	:41:47.
No, he was in here, in the restaurant.	:41:47.	:41:51.
What?	:41:51.	:41:53.
He was the man ordering coffee in the restaurant.	:41:53.	:41:56.
So he was definitely in the restaurant when you went out- and found the body?	:41:56.	:41:59.
Yeah, he was over there. That's what I'm saying.	:42:00.	:42:03.
Is there any way he could have nipped out and then come back in again?	:42:03.	:42:07.
No, not without me seeing. He wasthere the whole time. Just drinking.	:42:07.	:42:12.
Well, thanks anyway.	:42:12.	:42:15.
Did I say something wrong?	:42:15.	:42:18.
No, not at all. Just not what we were expecting.	:42:18.	:42:22.
You thought he was in the car! Well, we thought it was possible.	:42:22.	:42:27.
I'm sorry, I've tried to remember the driver, I really have.	:42:27.	:42:30.
Yes, yes, we know you have.	:42:31.	:42:32.
It's probably in there somewhere, I just can't get it out.	:42:32.	:42:40.
I'm desperate for a cigarette, just a couple of puffs, you know.	:42:40.	:42:45.
So I go outside. Are you outside now?	:42:45.	:42:48.
I leave the door open so I can get back in.	:42:48.	:42:51.
And what do you do next?	:42:51.	:42:54.
I take out a fag and go to light it.	:42:54.	:42:57.
With a lighter or matches? A lighter.	:42:57.	:43:02.
But then I see a man lying on the ground.	:43:02.	:43:05.
I don't want you to look at the man, Alice, I want you to look around alley. What else can you see?	:43:05.	:43:10.
I can see a car.	:43:10.	:43:12.
Is there anyone inside the car?	:43:12.	:43:16.
Yeah, in the driver's seat.	:43:16.	:43:20.
But I can't see them very well.	:43:20.	:43:22.
OK, let's look at the car itself again. What colour is it?	:43:22.	:43:26.
It's blue, a dark blue.	:43:26.	:43:29.
Now I want you to look back at the driver. Is it a man or a woman?	:43:29.	:43:35.
I think it's a man.I can't really tell, but I think so.	:43:35.	:43:41.
Can you see this man's face?	:43:41.	:43:43.
No, I can't see it. It's just...	:43:43.	:43:48.
I... No, I can't see it.	:43:48.	:43:52.
It was worth a try, at least.	:43:52.	:43:55.
And what about the number plate on the car, Alice? Can you see that?	:43:55.	:43:59.
Alice? Can you see the number plate?	:43:59.	:44:04.
I think so. Yes, yes, I can.	:44:04.	:44:09.
Please read the number out.	:44:09.	:44:14.
Y169...	:44:14.	:44:17.
Forget about a description of the driver -	:44:17.	:44:19.
she read out the whole number plate	:44:19.	:44:21.
as if it was right there in front of her.	:44:21.	:44:23.
That's fantastic. Yeah, I've got to- admit, I was sceptical.	:44:23.	:44:27.
I should hang onto that thought if I was you.	:44:27.	:44:29.
Why, what's the problem?	:44:29.	:44:30.
The vehicle is registered to a Dennis Craven.	:44:30.	:44:34.
He's got no form. He's a maths teacher at a comprehensive school near Staines.	:44:34.	:44:38.
A maths teacher?	:44:38.	:44:40.
Well, that's the end of that, then.	:44:40.	:44:42.
I knew all that stuff was mumbo jumbo.	:44:42.	:44:44.
PHONE RINGS	:44:44.	:44:46.
Hello, UCOS. Yeah, speaking.	:44:46.	:44:49.
It is possible that Alice West got it wrong about the number plate.	:44:49.	:44:53.
Or she got it right but the car had- nothing to do with Barton's death.	:44:53.	:44:56.
Well, thanks very much for calling. Yeah, goodbye.	:44:56.	:45:00.
That was the local council about where Barton's body's buried. Oh, yeah?	:45:00.	:45:05.
Seems we're not the only onesinterested. They had a call from a woman claiming to be his mother.	:45:05.	:45:10.
His mother's dead. Maybe Caroline Robinson cared more about him than she said.	:45:10.	:45:20.
	:45:20.	:45:44.
Excuse me. Can I have a word?	:45:44.	:45:50.
Dennis Craven's house is number 49... Here.	:45:50.	:46:00.
	:46:00.	:46:03.
So is it still working? What?	:46:03.	:46:06.
Hypnosis. Oh, yeah, brilliant.	:46:06.	:46:08.
Mind you, it's not really hypnosis,- is it?	:46:08.	:46:11.
It's more just the power of suggestion.	:46:11.	:46:13.
It definitely worked for me, even if it didn't for Alice West.	:46:13.	:46:17.
Maybe it did. What?	:46:17.	:46:19.
Take a look at this.	:46:19.	:46:27.
The car was serviced at Carlisle's garage.	:46:27.	:46:30.
And it was in for its service on the very day Barton was killed.	:46:30.	:46:33.
We've got the paperwork to prove it.	:46:34.	:46:36.
Can't be a coincidence - the odds on that are astronomical.	:46:36.	:46:39.
And anyway, De Groot was inside the hotel when Barton was attacked.	:46:39.	:46:43.
So maybe we've been sidetracked by this whole Robinson scenario.	:46:43.	:46:47.
Hiya. We've assumed that he was killed because of what he did as Thomas Barton.	:46:47.	:46:53.
Maybe he was killed because of what he did as Christopher Collins.	:46:53.	:46:57.
What's going on? The car outside the- hotel was from Carlisle's garage.	:46:57.	:47:00.
We've probably been looking in completely the wrong place.	:47:00.	:47:03.
I've got something that might support that theory.	:47:03.	:47:06.
A woman left flowers at Barton's grave.	:47:06.	:47:10.
Do you know who it was? No, I haven't got a name,	:47:10.	:47:13.
but from the description, it was not Caroline Robinson.	:47:13.	:47:23.
	:47:23.	:47:26.
Can we come in, please, Mrs Carlisle?	:47:26.	:47:29.
My husband's not here, he's at work. Yeah, we know.	:47:29.	:47:33.
Thank you.	:47:33.	:47:38.
Look, I just worked with Collins, or Barton,	:47:38.	:47:40.
or whatever his name was - that's all.	:47:40.	:47:42.
And not even for very long. So you didn't know him well?	:47:42.	:47:45.
That's what I just said.	:47:45.	:47:47.
Yeah, and that's why I'm wondering why you put flowers on his grave.	:47:47.	:47:53.
I just...thought someone should, that's all.	:47:53.	:47:56.
I just thought someone should do something.	:47:56.	:47:59.
Do you know what a log file is? No.	:47:59.	:48:03.
It's a record of activities on a website.	:48:03.	:48:05.
You first visited the Not Ever Forgotten website about six months ago.	:48:06.	:48:10.
You looked at the page with Barton's photograph on it on 32 occasions.	:48:10.	:48:15.
Why didn't you come forward earlier?	:48:15.	:48:17.
I don't know, I guess... I guess I wasn't sure.	:48:17.	:48:21.
No, no, I think you waited because you were hiding something.	:48:21.	:48:25.
I had nothing to do with his death.	:48:25.	:48:29.
That's not what we're saying. If you were involved, you wouldn't have come forward at all.	:48:29.	:48:34.
You were worried we'd find out that- you and Barton had had an affair.	:48:34.	:48:42.
You can't tell John.	:48:42.	:48:45.
You can't tell him.	:48:45.	:48:48.
I'm telling you, Brian, we were on our way out,	:48:48.	:48:51.
she calls him into her office and shuts the door on me.	:48:52.	:48:54.
And it was just her and Strickland?	:48:54.	:48:56.
Yeah, doesn't look good, does it?	:48:56.	:48:59.
Nah. Well, I shall go freelance, Gerry. Freelance?	:48:59.	:49:04.
Yeah, you know, that website, Not Ever Forgotten -	:49:04.	:49:08.
they've got hundreds of open cases spread all over the world.	:49:08.	:49:11.
They could really use somebody with my experience.	:49:11.	:49:14.
Well, you're going to have to do something.	:49:14.	:49:16.
Don't worry - if UCOS closes, I'll not be going back on the booze.	:49:16.	:49:20.
I wasn't thinking about that. I was thinking about Esther.	:49:20.	:49:24.
She's not going to put up with you around the house all day, every day, is she?	:49:24.	:49:28.
Oh, here we go.	:49:28.	:49:32.
So, that's 45 to the gallon around town,	:49:32.	:49:35.
so on the open road you can probably account for...	:49:35.	:49:39.
Uh, be back in a minute.	:49:39.	:49:43.
Can this wait? Not really. She's been here for the third time, and I think she's about to bite.	:49:43.	:49:49.
Someone else'll have to reel her in.	:49:49.	:49:51.
Keys, boss.	:49:52.	:49:53.
And it won't be him either.	:49:54.	:49:59.
I-I met John when I was 18. Three months later, we were married.	:50:00.	:50:06.
My parents wouldn't come - they didn't approve.	:50:06.	:50:12.
It was the age difference - he was 31.	:50:12.	:50:16.
It didn't matter to me.	:50:16.	:50:18.
I loved him.	:50:19.	:50:22.
And I've never...regretted it,	:50:22.	:50:27.
it's just he likes to be...	:50:27.	:50:31.
In control?	:50:31.	:50:32.
No, no, not that, just... always together.	:50:32.	:50:37.
It can feel a little suffocating sometimes.	:50:37.	:50:43.
Chris wasn't like that. By Chris you mean Thomas Barton?	:50:43.	:50:48.
He was Chris to me, and he was different, that was all.	:50:48.	:50:57.
Exciting.	:50:57.	:51:00.
I was flattered, and I was stupid.	:51:00.	:51:04.
It was a crazy thing to do. But it happened, it just happened.	:51:04.	:51:08.
I understand. Do you?	:51:08.	:51:11.
Because I don't, not really.	:51:11.	:51:16.
I knew it was a mistake straightaway.	:51:16.	:51:18.
It didn't last long, just a couple of weeks.	:51:18.	:51:21.
I told him I couldn't do it.	:51:21.	:51:25.
It wasn't worth it, it wasn't worth- risking everything I had,	:51:25.	:51:29.
everything I've got, for a fling.	:51:29.	:51:33.
Where did you go on the night he was killed?	:51:33.	:51:35.
How do you know I went anywhere?	:51:35.	:51:37.
Just answer the question, please, Lisa.	:51:37.	:51:40.
I...wanted some time on my own, I went to my mother's.	:51:40.	:51:45.
She lives near Dartmouth, in Devon.	:51:45.	:51:48.
Did you drive? Yes.	:51:48.	:51:51.
You took your car?	:51:51.	:51:52.
We only have one car.	:51:52.	:51:54.
What difference does that make?	:51:54.	:51:58.
Who else knew about you and Barton,- apart from your husband?	:51:58.	:52:03.
John didn't know.	:52:03.	:52:05.
Didn't he?	:52:05.	:52:07.
John didn't know.	:52:07.	:52:11.
Your wife went to Devon, she drove there in your car,	:52:11.	:52:13.
and that's why you had to take one that was in for a service.	:52:14.	:52:19.
There are people in and out all the time.	:52:19.	:52:21.
Anyone could have had access to that vehicle.	:52:21.	:52:25.
That's probably true.	:52:25.	:52:26.
Anyone could have a motive,	:52:26.	:52:29.
but you're the only one whose wife was having an affair with Thomas Barton.	:52:29.	:52:34.
Lisa?	:52:34.	:52:38.
No, no way.	:52:38.	:52:42.
That never happened.	:52:42.	:52:46.
I don't believe you.	:52:46.	:52:48.
I could say the same thing. We know about the relationship. She confirmed it.	:52:48.	:52:53.
She told you that? Yes, she did.	:52:53.	:52:56.
She didn't think that you knew, but you did, didn't you?	:52:56.	:53:00.
Of course I didn't.	:53:00.	:53:03.
You had to - that's why you went to the Maybrooke.	:53:03.	:53:05.
Maybe you didn't go there to kill him -	:53:05.	:53:07.
maybe you just wanted to warn him off.	:53:07.	:53:11.
I didn't go anywhere.	:53:11.	:53:14.
And you can't prove I did. We'll prove it, Mr Carlisle, I can promise you that.	:53:14.	:53:21.
We know you knew about Barton and Lisa Carlisle's affair.	:53:21.	:53:25.
You saw them together.	:53:25.	:53:28.
And we know why you're so loyal to Carlisle.	:53:28.	:53:31.
I mean, you've been with him a long time.	:53:31.	:53:33.
He gave you a job when many others wouldn't have.	:53:33.	:53:38.
But that loyalty should only be stretched so far.	:53:38.	:53:44.
Did Carlisle tell you that he killed Barton?	:53:44.	:53:49.
John Carlisle is a good man.	:53:49.	:53:51.
You didn't answer the question.	:53:51.	:53:54.
Yeah, I did.	:53:54.	:53:56.
You're hanging by a thread here, Jason.	:53:56.	:54:00.
Accessory, conspiracy - we've got all sorts of options.	:54:00.	:54:05.
Take your best shot.	:54:05.	:54:08.
I really don't have anything more to say.	:54:08.	:54:11.
That is your right, Mr Carlisle.	:54:11.	:54:14.
It does seem such a waste, though.	:54:14.	:54:18.
I mean, given that the affair was over.	:54:18.	:54:21.
Pointless, really. Lisa had made her choice. What?	:54:21.	:54:24.
The affair, the one that you didn't know about.	:54:25.	:54:28.
It was finished, done and dusted.	:54:28.	:54:31.
She'd already chosen you, John.	:54:31.	:54:35.
No. Yeah, the relationship was over.	:54:36.	:54:39.
No, no, no - they were still seeing each other.	:54:39.	:54:44.
They were meeting in the hotel. Mr Carlisle. Just wait...	:54:44.	:54:47.
Sorry, they were what?	:54:47.	:54:49.
I knew, I heard him on the phone.	:54:49.	:54:54.
Barton wasn't there to meet Lisa.	:54:54.	:54:57.
I heard the name of the hotel, he was arranging it all.	:54:57.	:55:00.
He wasn't meeting her - he was there for something completely different.	:55:00.	:55:04.
You know the best bit? You didn't have to kill him.	:55:04.	:55:09.
There was someone else desperate to do it, and they would have done as well.	:55:09.	:55:13.
Except you got there first.	:55:13.	:55:22.
Brian, is Sandra around? She's in an interview.	:55:22.	:55:25.
OK, thanks.	:55:25.	:55:27.
Do you want me to give her a message?	:55:27.	:55:30.
Just ask her to give me a call, will you?	:55:30.	:55:31.
Can I tell her what it's about?	:55:31.	:55:34.
I've got some news for her, that's all. Thanks.	:55:34.	:55:44.
I didn't want him dead. I didn't.	:55:44.	:55:48.
I just wanted it to stop.	:55:48.	:55:50.
So you waited close to the hotel.	:55:50.	:55:54.
Yeah, I was going to go in and, you know, knock on the door.	:55:54.	:56:02.
He was waiting outside when I got there, having a fag.	:56:02.	:56:07.
I told him to leave Lisa alone.	:56:07.	:56:10.
And what did he do?	:56:10.	:56:14.
He smiled at me.	:56:14.	:56:17.
That's what did it.	:56:17.	:56:22.
He'd taken my wife away from me, and he just stood there and he smiled.	:56:22.	:56:27.
What happened next?	:56:27.	:56:31.
He pushed past me.	:56:31.	:56:34.
He was just walking away, he wasn't listening.	:56:34.	:56:37.
I swung my arm out and caught him on the face.	:56:37.	:56:41.
He wobbled a bit, but he was still smiling.	:56:41.	:56:45.
So I hit him again and he went down.	:56:45.	:56:52.
I just didn't want to lose her.	:56:52.	:56:59.
I wasn't going to let that happen.	:56:59.	:57:07.
KNOCK ON THE DOOR	:57:08.	:57:11.
Where's John? Is he here? Can I see him?	:57:11.	:57:14.
I need to see my husband.	:57:14.	:57:15.
That's not possible at the moment.	:57:15.	:57:18.
Can I get you anything?	:57:18.	:57:19.
Cup of tea?	:57:19.	:57:21.
This is all my fault.	:57:21.	:57:24.
I knew how much he loved me, that should've been enough.	:57:24.	:57:30.
Yeah, but you're not responsible for what other people do.	:57:30.	:57:33.
I am responsible, he did it for me.	:57:33.	:57:37.
God, why did I?	:57:37.	:57:40.
I'll never forgive myself.	:57:40.	:57:48.
To UCOS. UCOS.	:57:48.	:57:51.
And all who sail in her. All who sink in her.	:57:51.	:57:54.
I've got some news.	:57:54.	:57:56.
Yeah, we can guess. How long have we got?	:57:56.	:57:59.
We know you've discussed it with Strickland.	:57:59.	:58:02.
We're prepared for the worst.	:58:02.	:58:04.
Pastures new.	:58:04.	:58:06.
Sorry to disappoint you, but Strickland has made some enquiries,	:58:06.	:58:09.
and you're not going to get away that easily.	:58:09.	:58:11.

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