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-Welcome to Codi Pac.

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-I, Geraint Hardy, will be travelling

-all around Wales...

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-..to find some of our treasures.

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-If you want a weekend away,

-you needn't travel far.

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-It's all on the doorstep.

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-Places to eat, places to stay,

-things to do and see.

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-They're all here on Codi Pac.

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-I need a few things

-for this journey. They're all here.

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-I have a notebook, pamphlets,

-an orange camera...

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-..a mobile phone, water, bag

-and a car.

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-I don't need my passport

-because I'm staying in Wales.

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-Wales may be small but there's

-plenty to do and see here.

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-Over the next six programmes...

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-..I'll be visiting six different

-locations.

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-From Wrexham to Machynlleth,

-from Beaumaris to Merthyr Tydfil.

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-I'll be looking at places to stay

-and places to eat.

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-I'll find out a little local

-history and try out some activities.

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-From the exciting to the relaxed,

-there'll be something for everyone.

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-For help

-following the programme...

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-..head to the website

-or search for the Dal Ati app.

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-This week, I'm at Betws-y-Coed.

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-It's a temporary resting place for

-hikers a haven for adventurers...

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-..the gateway to Snowdonia and much,

-much more.

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-Betws means chapel of ease,

-a small church or house of prayer.

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-Betws-y-Coed means

-a house of prayer in the trees.

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-It's a convenient place

-to stay in North Wales.

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-Before I go to look for my hotel, I

-went for a stroll with Edmwnd Rees.

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-He works

-at the local welcome centre.

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-He knows quite a bit

-about the village's history.

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-Edmwnd,

-we've gone past the train station.

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-Where are we headed next?

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-Where are we headed next?

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-We're just passing the old church.

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-St Michael's Old Church is

-Betws-y-Coed's original church.

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-It dates back to the 14th Century.

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-There was probably

-a church here before then.

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-She does get used but she doesn't

-belong to the Church in Wales.

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-The Friends of St Michael's Church

-look after it.

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-They hold services here. A candlelit

-service at Christmas time.

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-And on St Michael's Day

-in September.

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-Here we are

-nearing the first bridge.

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-Yes, the suspension bridge.

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-Am I right to say that this was

-the main way in to Betws-y-Coed?

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-Yes, it was one of the main ways...

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-..for people to come to the church

-in Betws-y-Coed.

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-People could make their way over

-to Pont Y Pair.

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-The road came around the mountain

-over from Capel Garmon.

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-They'd cross the river here

-on stepping stones.

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-Those would be dangerous,

-particularly when there was a flood.

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-During the first world war...

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-..soldiers from the Royal Engineers

-were billeted here.

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-They built a wooden bridge across

-the river here.

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-It was short-lived. I think it was

-taken away in a flood in the 1920s.

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-This bridge was then built

-in 1930 by the town council.

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-Is there a history to when tourists

-started coming to Betws-y-Coed.

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-I would have thought it started

-during the Napoleonic Wars.

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-Before then, it was traditional

-for rich people...

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-..to go on a grand tour of Europe.

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-That period of war

-brought an end to that.

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-People turned to places

-in this country to visit.

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-The Lake District and Snowdonia

-were popular.

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-As a result of all these people

-touring North Wales...

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-..a lot of artists came

-to stay in Betws-y-Coed.

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-Famous people like David Cox stayed

-at the Royal Oak and other places.

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-They would make paintings

-and then people would see them.

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-When the railway came

-to Betws in 1868...

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-..that enabled more ordinary people

-to come here on holiday.

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-Most of the artists

-were from wealthy families.

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-Different people came then

-and the village grew.

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-It grew to the size you see now.

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-Most of the buildings were built

-shortly after the railway came here.

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-A lot of people have done

-the hike that I'm doing today.

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-Where do I go next,

-for which bridge do I aim?

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-You can head up towards Pont Y Pair.

-It crosses the Llugwy river.

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-That's the oldest bridge

-in the village.

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-It dates back to the 15th Century.

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-If you want to do

-an additional two miles...

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-..you can head up the river

-to Miners bridge.

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-That's a wooden bridge

-built on an old roman road.

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-I've got quite a journey

-ahead of me today.

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-It's a wonderful day

-so why not go for it.

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-Thanks very much, Edmwnd

-for the history and advice.

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-Are you heading back to the office?

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-Are you heading back to the office?

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-Yes. It was nice to meet you.

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-Good luck with the programme

-and your journey.

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-It's great to meet local people.

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-They're full of interesting

-and useful local knowledge.

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-Betws is a beautiful village.

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-The Conwy and Llugwy rivers

-are very popular attractions.

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-Waterloo bridge

-is well worth seeing.

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-It was built by Thomas Telford.

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-I'm walking out of the village,

-past Pont Y Pair.

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-It's worth pausing here

-to enjoy the views.

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-I head further

-along the Llugwy river...

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-..toward another bridge

-that's worth a look.

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-The Miners Bridge

-was originally built...

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-..for the men who worked

-at the nearby lead mines.

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-It's the perfect spot

-to take a photograph.

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-After visiting the Miners Bridge...

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-..it's worth making the effort

-to visit the Swallow Falls.

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-It's around three miles to the west

-of Betws-y-Coed.

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-It's been a popular attraction

-since the 19th Century.

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-Without a doubt, it's stunning.

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-It's the perfect end

-to a wonderful hike.

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-This really is beautiful.

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-The next step of my journey

-is the Olif Hotel.

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-I've seen people throw coins

-into the water.

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-Why not.

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-After my long hike...

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-..I can't think of a better place

-to put my head down than Olif hotel.

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-This guesthouse is also

-a Welsh tapas restaurant.

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-It is apparently Betws-y-Coed's

-first boutique town house.

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-Each en-suite bedroom

-has been designed individually.

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-Mine is on the top floor.

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-I'm already happy!

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-Look at this.

-This looks like a French bed.

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-There's Welsh tapestry on the bed.

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-There's plenty of light in the room.

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-This is clever,

-rather than fitting a cupboard...

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-..they've kept it fresh and clean

-with a pole to hang your clothes.

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-Let's check out the bathroom.

-It's nice and modern.

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-There's a wonderful shower here.

-Dear me, check out this bath!

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-In addition to bedrooms...

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-..the restaurant is decorated simply

-with open fireplaces...

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-..wooden floors

-and tasteful furniture.

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-Mari and Aubrey Martin-Matthews

-own this wonderful place.

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-Mari was raised in Manchester

-by her Welsh-speaking family...

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-..who are originally from Lleyn.

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-..who are originally from Lleyn.

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-For years, we've considered

-opening a bed and breakfast.

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-For years, we've considered

-opening a bed and breakfast.

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-We collected recipes for years with

-a view to opening a restaurant.

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-We saw this place

-and thought this was it.

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-We decided that to start,

-we'd open a bed and breakfast.

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-When we saw this place,

-it was nothing like it is now...

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-We thought, it'll be a lot of work

-because we had to redo everything...

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-..every wall, everything.

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-It took time for us to do it.

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-I thought it was worth it.

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-I've noticed that a lot of the

-things you have here are from Wales.

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-Was that a deliberate choice?

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-We thought it was important to make

-sure that we used local produce.

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-We wanted to support

-local businesses.

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-The quality of food in North Wales

-and throughout Wales is amazing.

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-We use Welsh produce

-for everything we can.

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-We heard about this guy

-who produced Welsh chorizo.

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-I thought why don't we do tapas.

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-Then we can do all kinds of things

-to show off the Welsh food.

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-We can showcase them

-in different ways.

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-We wanted to do something

-a little more quirky.

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-Thanks for the chat, Mari

-and thanks for letting me stay.

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-Thank you.

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-There are plenty of places

-to stay at Betws-y-Coed.

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-Like this place.

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-This is the Vagabond Bunkhouse.

-A lot of mountain bikers stay here.

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-A lot of young people stay here.

-There are also family rooms.

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-The important question is, who gets

-the top bunk.

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-People from all over the world

-have signed this flag.

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-I think it's important

-for Codi Pac to sign it too.

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-We move on now to

-The Ferns Guesthouse.

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-It's run by Sarah Jones

-who is learning Welsh.

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-Sarah, we're here at your hotel,

-The Ferns.

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-Thanks for the welcome.

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-For how long

-have you been learning Welsh?

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-I've been learning Welsh

-for six years.

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-From where do you come, originally?

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-Originally, I lived in Oxford.

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-Did you move here to Betws-y-Coed

-to run the hotel?

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-Yes, my husband and I

-wanted to run the hotel.

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-We also wanted a change.

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-Do a lot of people come here

-from abroad?

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-People from all over the world

-come to stay here.

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-We get a lot of people here...

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-..who have travelled across

-the sea to The Ferns.

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-A lot of people come

-from the Midlands.

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-Around two years ago...

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-..I had a lady from Japan

-was staying at the house.

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-It was quite interesting because

-the woman was learning Welsh.

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-She was from Japan and spoke Welsh.

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-She'd learned like you.

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-She'd learned like you.

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-Yeah.

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-I was impressed.

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-What's the best thing about

-Betws-y-Coed in your opinion?

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-Why do people come here?

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-There are a lot of things to do

-in the village.

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-You can go walking in the forest.

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-You can walk along the river.

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-You can play in the orchard.

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-Of course, a lot of people

-want to walk up Snowdon.

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-For you, do you speak Welsh

-in and around the village?

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-Of course.

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-I try.

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-I like speaking Welsh with

-the ladies in the newspaper shop.

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-I like to speak Welsh with the

-ladies in Spar...

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-..when I'm buying bread and cakes.

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-What advice would you give someone

-who wants to learn Welsh?

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-I'm not sure what the Welsh is

-but in English, go for it.

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-"Cer amdani" - go for it.

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-"Cer amdani" - go for it.

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-Go for it.

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-There's one thing I like to do which

-is take a picture, can I do that?

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-Yes.

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-Yes.

-

-OK, one, two, three.

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-If you need more information about

-places to stay head to our website.

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-Ah, great. Wonderful.

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-Great. Lovely.

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-After a wonderful day in

-Betws-y-Coed, I'm a little tired.

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-I'm lucky I can escape

-back to the hotel.

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-I've had a nice relaxed day today

-in sunny Betws-y-Coed.

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-In part two,

-things get more exciting.

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-After a good night's sleep,

-I'm looking forward...

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-..to another busy day

-in Betws-y-Coed.

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-First things first, breakfast!

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-First things first, breakfast!

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-Good morning!

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-Here we go.

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-Great, thanks.

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-I'll put the toast there

-for a minute.

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-It's a nice day, isn't it?

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-Yes. What are you up to today?

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-Have you planned?

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-I'm going to Zipworld today.

-A bit of an adventure today.

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-Eat that and rest up for a little.

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-Thanks very much, Mari.

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-Thanks very much, Mari.

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-Sauce?

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-I'm fine, thanks.

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-Traditionally, it's the incredible

-views and mountains...

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-..that attracted people to this part

-of North Wales.

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-People come here

-to walk and climb mountains...

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-..and to enjoy

-the breathtaking beaches.

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-There are now new activities which

-appeal to a new breed of tourist.

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-I'm looking forward to learning more

-in the company of Rhys Watkin.

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-Can you explain what Zipworld is?

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-It's a company that offers

-alternative experiences.

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-There are three different locations.

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-Can you explain the difference

-between the three locations?

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-This is Zipworld Fforest

-outside Betws-y-Coed.

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-We offer a lot of experiences

-up in the trees.

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-We have a location in Bethesda

-in Penrhyn Quarry.

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-That's where the long Zipworld line

-that everyone's seen is.

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-We also have the slate caverns

-in Blaenau Ffestiniog.

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-They're similar

-just set in old caves.

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-A lot of fun.

-You're open all year too.

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-If people travel from far, they can

-get here from the village for free.

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-We offer a park and ride

-from Betws-y-Coed.

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-If you fancy coming to Fforest...

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-..you can jump in the park and ride

-and come on up.

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-It looks like a lot of fun.

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-Where do we start?

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-We'll start on the nets.

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-Let's go for it.

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-There's a bounce, isn't there.

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-You're better at bouncing.

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-The corners are the trick.

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-The corners are the trick.

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-The corners are hard.

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-As you can see, there are paths

-that go around the forest.

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-They lead to larger squares

-like this square.

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-In some of the squares or rooms

-there are balls.

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-High knees! Boom boom!

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-If you do come here

-with your children...

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-..I'll say one thing,

-it's hard work.

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-I'm out of breath.

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-A tip from the top,

-once you are tired...

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-..this is the perfect place

-to lie down and enjoy the view.

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-I don't need a hotel.

-I'll just sleep here.

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-There's traffic on the road,

-down I go!

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-Excuse me, excuse me.

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-Since I was a young child,

-I have always enjoyed slides.

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-There's only one way

-to finish the journey. Bye!

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-Rhys, that's amazing.

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-There is one small thing left.

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-Yes, the plummet.

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-Yes, the plummet.

-

-The plummet.

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-Ready?

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-Ready?

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-Yes.

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-Before plummeting,

-you have to climb.

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-You climb a 106-foot high tree.

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-One, two, three.

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-Oh, that's horrible.

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-Thank heavens I'm safe.

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-After all that excitement,

-I'm pretty hungry.

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-There's plenty of choice of places

-to eat here in Betws-y-Coed.

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-There's a wonderful coffee shop

-near the old station.

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-Or you can enjoy the atmosphere

-of an old-fashioned train carriage.

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-After the excitement of Zipworld,

-where better to relax...

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-..than Betws-y-Coed's pizzeria.

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-There's a warm welcome

-to everyone in the family.

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-A percentage of their profits go

-toward protecting wild animals...

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-..like the orangutan.

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-If it's a cold day, they have

-blankets so you can sit outside.

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-As it's warm today,

-I'm going to sunbathe!

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-On the other hand,

-if you enjoy ugly houses...

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-..there's one outside the village.

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-If pub grub is more your thing...

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-..the Ty Gwyn is on the edge of

-the village next to Waterloo bridge.

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-A warm, cosy place that offers

-traditional fare.

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-Bye!

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-It's been a full day

-to say the least.

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-I've had some food.

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-I'm travelling in style now.

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-I'm on Betws-y-Coed's

-small steam train.

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-It's perfect for the family's big

-kids, like me...

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-..and the small kids too.

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-Choo, choo!

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-After relaxing on the steam train,

-you can visit the museum.

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-There's plenty of history

-and big kids' toys to enjoy.

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-Next, we're heading out

-of Betws-y-Coed to Ffin y Parc.

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-It's a grand house

-on the road to Llanrwst.

0:20:310:20:34

-It's a unique place

-that's worth a visit.

0:20:340:20:37

-I've heard a lot about this place.

0:20:450:20:47

-Everybody says it's worth a visit.

0:20:480:20:51

-That's certainly true

-as you walk in.

0:20:510:20:54

-Look at these great stairs

-and there's art on every wall.

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-Over here, there's a small

-welcoming cafe in the sunlight.

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-It's peaceful,

-relaxing and elegant.

0:21:030:21:06

-It's all encompassed in one place.

0:21:060:21:09

-This place is awesome.

0:21:100:21:12

-Rowland, Ffin Y Parc

-is an incredible building.

0:21:240:21:27

-Can you tell us

-some of the place's history.

0:21:270:21:30

-We moved here around ten years ago.

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-We decided to open a gallery.

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-We're now in our sixth year.

0:21:360:21:39

-We've had dozens

-of different shows every year.

0:21:390:21:42

-Every month, we take everything off

-the walls and replace them all.

0:21:420:21:46

-What kind of work

-do you accept here?

0:21:470:21:49

-Is there a theme?

0:21:490:21:51

-The artist has to have

-a link to Wales.

0:21:510:21:55

-They've either lived here

-or worked here.

0:21:550:21:58

-Some of them paint landscape.

0:21:580:22:01

-Some of them do portraits

-or abstract art.

0:22:010:22:03

-There's no overarching theme

-for all the work.

0:22:040:22:07

-But there must be something

-to connect the artist with Wales.

0:22:080:22:11

-It's wonderful.

0:22:110:22:13

-What big or exciting names

-have you had displayed here?

0:22:130:22:17

-Chloe Holt, she's a young artist.

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-She's attracting

-a lot of attention at the moment.

0:22:220:22:25

-And then there's Elfyn Jones.

0:22:270:22:29

-We also have Elfyn Lewis.

-We have two Elfyns.

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-Elfyn Lewis is from Porthmadog,

-his work is exciting.

0:22:320:22:35

-He's won a gold medal

-at the Eisteddfod.

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-A lot of people come here

-once or twice a week.

0:22:380:22:42

-There's a coffee shop here

-so people come to sit and chat.

0:22:420:22:46

-They see what's on the walls

-and buy it.

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-What kind of food do you do?

0:22:490:22:51

-We do tea and coffee.

0:22:510:22:53

-There's a selection of cakes

-every day.

0:22:530:22:56

-We make everything here.

0:22:560:22:58

-Between 12.00 and 2.30 we have

-sandwiches, quiche.

0:22:590:23:04

-There are specials every day.

0:23:040:23:07

-There's soup or burgers or pasta

-or salads, that kind of stuff.

0:23:070:23:11

-Rowland, it's been a pleasure

-to be here today.

0:23:120:23:15

-I'm going to wander around

-the place. Thanks for the chat.

0:23:150:23:19

-It's been an adventure from start

-to finish here in Betws-y-Coed.

0:23:410:23:45

-I've found a haven.

0:23:450:23:47

-A quiet place to look back

-on my journey with a smile.

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-Subtitles

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-Subtitles

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-For help to follow the programme...

0:24:020:24:04

-..visit the website

-or look for the Dal Ati app.

0:24:050:24:07

-Angharad and Megan Phillips

-are twins...

0:24:090:24:12

-..and they've made a name for

-themselves as table tennis players.

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-I'm Angharad.

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-I'm Angharad.

-

-And I'm Megan.

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-We're both 21 years old, but I'm

-older than Angharad by one minute.

0:24:290:24:34

-We got a table tennis table as a

-Christmas present when we were ten.

0:24:390:24:44

-We now play for Wales.

0:24:450:24:46

-We represented our country in the

-2010 Commonwealth Games in India...

0:24:460:24:51

-..and in the

-2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.

0:24:510:24:54

-Angharad and Megan,

-you're university students.

0:24:580:25:01

-Where do you study?

0:25:020:25:03

-We're in our first year at Durham

-studying Sociology.

0:25:040:25:08

-Do you live together?

0:25:090:25:11

-We live in the same college, but

-there are 200 people in one college.

0:25:110:25:16

-We see each other a lot...

0:25:160:25:18

-..but it's not as if

-we live in a house together.

0:25:180:25:22

-How often do you see each other?

0:25:230:25:25

-We're doing the same course, so we

-see each other at every lecture...

0:25:250:25:31

-..but we have a different group

-of friends and that's a good thing.

0:25:310:25:35

-It's nice

-to spend a bit of time apart.

0:25:360:25:38

-How much training do you do

-for your table tennis?

0:25:430:25:48

-Before we went to university,

-we played all the time.

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-We played twice a day

-and we went to the gym too.

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-Now that we're studying too,

-we try to train whenever we can.

0:25:560:26:00

-What sort of thing do you do

-in training?

0:26:020:26:06

-We usually train at the table,

-so we work on different shots.

0:26:060:26:10

-We also go to the gym

-to work on our fitness...

0:26:130:26:18

-..and on our strength.

0:26:190:26:21

-How popular is table tennis?

0:26:280:26:30

-Not many Welsh people play...

0:26:320:26:34

-..but table tennis is the second

-most popular sport in the world...

0:26:350:26:39

-..because so many Asians play it.

0:26:400:26:42

-Hopefully, a lot more British people

-will play one day.

0:26:420:26:47

-How exactly do the rankings work?

0:26:470:26:50

-It depends who you beat

-in competitions.

0:26:500:26:53

-The points you gain depend

-on your opponent's world ranking.

0:26:540:26:59

-At the moment, Megan is ranked

-slightly higher than me...

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-..and that's no fun at all!

0:27:030:27:05

-I can work on that.

0:27:060:27:08

-What are your current rankings?

0:27:080:27:11

-I'm ranked number three in Wales

-and Angharad is number four. Sorry!

0:27:110:27:16

-Ooh!

0:27:160:27:18

-I'm not sure

-what my world ranking is...

0:27:180:27:21

-..but it's around 400 or 500.

0:27:210:27:24

-Megan is a minute older than me,

-but I don't see her as a big sister.

0:27:280:27:32

-I don't let her boss me around.

0:27:320:27:34

-I see her more as a friend.

0:27:340:27:36

-I like spending time with Megan

-because she's funny...

0:27:390:27:43

-..and she's kind, most of the time!

0:27:430:27:46

-Megan, I'm sure you and Angharad

-are always interviewed as a pair.

0:27:470:27:52

-Is it sometimes nice to find some

-peace and quiet in your bedroom?

0:27:520:27:56

-Yes, it's nice to find some peace.

0:27:570:27:59

-We do a lot together, but I do enjoy

-being alone sometimes.

0:27:590:28:03

-Tell me about your hobbies.

0:28:040:28:06

-What do you enjoy doing beside

-studying and playing table tennis?

0:28:060:28:11

-I like several different sports

-such as netball and hockey.

0:28:110:28:16

-The two of us like football too.

0:28:170:28:19

-I watch a lot of sport on TV

-and I like watching films.

0:28:190:28:23

-I also enjoy

-socializing with my friends.

0:28:230:28:26

-You celebrated your 21st birthday

-a few months ago.

0:28:280:28:31

-Yes, and it was nice

-to celebrate with the family.

0:28:320:28:35

-Mam and Dad organized

-an amazing trip for us...

0:28:350:28:39

-..to watch Italy

-play Wales at rugby.

0:28:390:28:41

-That was an amazing trip.

0:28:420:28:43

-Are you as keen on rugby

-as those other sports?

0:28:430:28:47

-We both really like rugby

-and we love to watch Wales playing.

0:28:470:28:51

-The little teddy up there...

0:28:590:29:00

-..bears the legend

-2001 National Eisteddfod.

0:29:010:29:04

-Does that mean

-you competed in eisteddfodau?

0:29:050:29:08

-Yes, especially

-when we were at junior school.

0:29:090:29:12

-We were part of a recitation group

-and we competed in gymnastics too.

0:29:120:29:17

-You've been used to competing

-from a young age.

0:29:190:29:23

-Yes. We had the same interests and

-we're naturally competitive people.

0:29:240:29:30

-We competed as a pair too.

0:29:300:29:32

-Is one of you

-more competitive than the other?

0:29:330:29:37

-No, I'd say that

-we're both extremely competitive.

0:29:370:29:41

-You both want to win

-and that's the way it should be.

0:29:410:29:44

-You're similar in many ways...

0:29:490:29:52

-..but your taste in music and films

-is quite different.

0:29:530:29:57

-Yes, we're very different

-when it comes to music.

0:29:580:30:01

-I like a lot of rock music...

0:30:010:30:04

-..but Angharad

-likes 1980s and 1970s music.

0:30:050:30:09

-Do you argue about music

-when you travel to and from Durham?

0:30:090:30:13

-Yes. We never want to listen

-to each other's music.

0:30:130:30:17

-It can be a bit awkward!

0:30:170:30:18

-Other than your taste in music...

0:30:220:30:25

-..is there anything else

-which really sets you apart?

0:30:250:30:30

-Is there a really big difference

-between you?

0:30:300:30:33

-I'm more laid-back than Angharad...

0:30:330:30:36

-..but she wouldn't be happy

-to hear me say that!

0:30:360:30:39

-Maybe that's the main difference.

0:30:390:30:42

-I'm a bit more laid-back.

0:30:420:30:44

-Megan says

-she's more laid-back than you.

0:30:440:30:47

-Oh!

0:30:480:30:49

-Is that true?

0:30:490:30:50

-Is that true?

-

-I don't know. Maybe.

0:30:500:30:52

-If I'm being honest...

0:30:520:30:55

-..she copes better than me

-in a crisis.

0:30:550:30:59

-I get in more of a panic

-than she does, unfortunately.

0:30:590:31:03

-Our personalities

-are pretty similar.

0:31:030:31:07

-I may be slightly more sarcastic

-than her at times.

0:31:070:31:11

-Table tennis took up most of

-our time when we were growing up...

0:31:140:31:18

-..but now we're at university,

-we have time to do different things.

0:31:180:31:24

-Meg has done more sports,

-like netball and hockey...

0:31:250:31:28

-..and I've taken an interest

-in drama.

0:31:290:31:31

-It's strange to see how we've

-developed different interests...

0:31:320:31:36

-..even though we shared the same

-experiences when we were growing up.

0:31:360:31:41

-What aspect of drama attracts you?

0:31:420:31:44

-Acting and performing?

0:31:440:31:46

-In a sense, you have to perform

-when you play table tennis.

0:31:460:31:50

-Yes, it's similar in a way.

0:31:510:31:53

-I've played table tennis

-in front of hundreds of people...

0:31:530:31:57

-..at the Commonwealth Games.

0:31:570:32:00

-I also enjoy being on stage

-in front of lots of people.

0:32:000:32:03

-Do the people in your drama classes

-know about your background?

0:32:040:32:09

-Do they know about your huge success

-in the table tennis world?

0:32:090:32:14

-They found out in dribs and drabs.

0:32:150:32:18

-They had no idea when I joined...

0:32:180:32:20

-..and it was nice to do

-something different with new people.

0:32:200:32:25

-The best thing

-about going to university...

0:32:250:32:28

-..is being able to try new things.

0:32:280:32:32

-This is where you train

-when you're at home.

0:32:360:32:40

-This room could tell some stories!

0:32:410:32:43

-Yes, this is where I took

-my first-ever table tennis shot.

0:32:440:32:49

-I thought you had to serve

-like you do in tennis...

0:32:490:32:53

-..so the ball shot across the room!

0:32:530:32:56

-You'd never have imagined

-I'd end up playing for Wales!

0:32:560:33:00

-We've spent a lot of time

-training here.

0:33:000:33:03

-If your parents hadn't bought this

-table for you all those years ago...

0:33:050:33:10

-..what sport do you think

-you'd have taken up?

0:33:100:33:15

-I wanted to be an athlete

-when I was little.

0:33:160:33:19

-I saw Kelly Holmes win two golds in

-Athens and I wanted to emulate her.

0:33:200:33:25

-I think I could have ended up

-doing any sport.

0:33:260:33:29

-I really wanted to go to the

-Commonwealth Games doing anything.

0:33:290:33:34

-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

0:33:350:33:37

-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

-

-Yes, and your dream came true.

0:33:370:33:41

-This table has an important job

-over Christmas, doesn't it?

0:33:450:33:49

-Yes - that's where we eat.

0:33:490:33:52

-You sit around that table?

0:33:520:33:54

-A lot of people can sit around it,

-so it's done a good job for us.

0:33:550:34:00

-The girls told me the story

-about the table coming to the house.

0:34:020:34:07

-What made you buy

-a table tennis table?

0:34:070:34:10

-We'd made the decision...

0:34:120:34:15

-..to turn

-what we called the flat...

0:34:160:34:18

-..into a games room.

0:34:180:34:20

-We tried to

-come up with something...

0:34:200:34:23

-..that the girls

-didn't have an opportunity to try.

0:34:230:34:27

-They played netball and hockey

-at school.

0:34:270:34:30

-We wanted an indoor sport which

-would be fun for us as a family.

0:34:300:34:35

-It wasn't just for the girls -

-it was for Mam and Dad too!

0:34:350:34:39

-That's how

-we reached the decision...

0:34:390:34:42

-..and we found someone

-who sold table tennis tables.

0:34:420:34:48

-Have they always been sporty?

0:34:480:34:51

-Yes, absolutely.

0:34:510:34:53

-We're both keen on sports

-and we've always supported them.

0:34:530:34:58

-They've done athletics,

-swimming, gymnastics and skiing.

0:34:590:35:03

-They did really well

-at many of those.

0:35:040:35:08

-Are the rest of the family sporty?

0:35:080:35:11

-Yes. It runs in the family.

0:35:110:35:13

-It started with my grandfather.

0:35:140:35:16

-He represented Wales at athletics...

0:35:170:35:20

-..and he played rugby for Llanelli.

0:35:200:35:23

-My brother

-competed in the triple jump...

0:35:240:35:27

-..at the Edmonton Commonwealth Games

-in 1978.

0:35:270:35:31

-I played football for Wales and

-my cousin played rugby for Wales.

0:35:320:35:37

-There's something in the genes.

0:35:370:35:40

-Did you ever imagine they'd go

-so far in the table tennis world?

0:35:400:35:46

-Definitely not.

0:35:460:35:47

-We just gave them the opportunity.

0:35:480:35:50

-When they first took it up,

-I played against them...

0:35:510:35:55

-..and I always beat them

-during the first year.

0:35:550:35:58

-I remember the day Angharad beat Dad

-for the very first time.

0:35:580:36:04

-She ran upstairs when she won!

0:36:040:36:06

-It became obvious that they had

-a real passion for the sport.

0:36:060:36:12

-Once they had that passion, it was

-clear they'd be very successful.

0:36:120:36:17

-Someone from the local club

-saw them playing after school.

0:36:170:36:21

-They were just having a knockabout.

0:36:210:36:23

-This person turned to me and said...

0:36:240:36:26

-.."Do you realize

-your children have a real talent?"

0:36:260:36:30

-Six months later,

-they were playing for Wales.

0:36:300:36:34

-They'd only had the table

-for around 18 months at that stage.

0:36:340:36:38

-We realized very suddenly

-that they have a special talent.

0:36:390:36:43

-Join me after the break

-back here in Denbigh...

0:36:440:36:47

-..when I may show off

-my table tennis skills!

0:36:470:36:52

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0:36:520:36:52

-Subtitles

0:36:560:36:56

-Subtitles

-

-Subtitles

0:36:560:36:58

-Welcome back to Denbigh,

-where I'm spending time...

0:36:590:37:02

-..with table tennis twins

-Angharad and Megan Phillips.

0:37:030:37:06

-Where are we now, ladies?

0:37:110:37:13

-This is one of our favourite places

-in Denbigh.

0:37:140:37:18

-This chocolate shop is the

-perfect place to come and relax...

0:37:180:37:23

-..after a training camp

-or a competition.

0:37:230:37:26

-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

0:37:260:37:29

-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

-

-Yes. It's called The Full Monty.

0:37:290:37:32

-It's hot chocolate topped with

-marshmallows, a Flake and cream.

0:37:320:37:37

-This isn't part of your normal diet!

0:37:370:37:39

-No, it's a treat because

-we eat healthily most of the time.

0:37:400:37:44

-It's important to treat yourself!

0:37:440:37:47

-That's the drink,

-so what do you have to eat here?

0:37:470:37:50

-We love to eat chocolate pizza

-when we're here.

0:37:520:37:55

-Chocolate pizza?

0:37:550:37:57

-Thank you, Nia.

0:37:570:37:58

-Thank you, Nia.

-

-You're welcome.

0:37:580:38:00

-Wow!

0:38:000:38:01

-Wow!

-

-It's definitely a treat!

0:38:010:38:03

-This is a dream come true

-for a chocoholic like me!

0:38:040:38:07

-What's the best thing

-about being twins?

0:38:120:38:15

-We always have a friend.

0:38:170:38:18

-We never feel lonely.

0:38:190:38:21

-What's the worst thing?

0:38:220:38:23

-What's the worst thing?

-

-When people treat us as one person.

0:38:230:38:28

-We may be similar,

-but we're also individuals.

0:38:280:38:33

-There isn't much I dislike

-about being a twin.

0:38:330:38:36

-They say that twins

-finish each other's sentences...

0:38:370:38:42

-..and feel the same emotions.

0:38:420:38:45

-Is that true about you?

0:38:460:38:47

-When it comes to finishing

-each other's sentences...

0:38:480:38:52

-..we're likely to do that sometimes.

0:38:520:38:55

-But we don't share each other's

-emotions and we're not telepathic.

0:38:550:39:00

-Really?

0:39:000:39:01

-Really?

-

-Unfortunately not.

0:39:010:39:03

-Well, as it happens...

0:39:030:39:05

-..I have a cup here

-that's full of words.

0:39:050:39:10

-I'll take a word out of the cup...

0:39:100:39:16

-..and you write down

-the first thing that comes to mind.

0:39:160:39:20

-You can write a word

-or draw a picture.

0:39:210:39:23

-Here comes the first word.

0:39:240:39:26

-Anifail - animal.

0:39:270:39:29

-Neither of you are artists!

0:39:330:39:36

-You won't be able to work out

-what this is!

0:39:360:39:39

-Finished?

0:39:390:39:40

-Show your pictures to the camera.

0:39:410:39:43

-Angharad, what's that?

0:39:440:39:45

-Angharad, what's that?

-

-A cat, but it may not look like one!

0:39:450:39:48

-Megan?

0:39:480:39:49

-Megan?

-

-A lion.

0:39:490:39:50

-A big cat.

0:39:510:39:52

-A big cat.

-

-The same family.

0:39:520:39:53

-Yours is better than mine!

0:39:540:39:56

-Here comes the next word.

0:39:580:39:59

-Dinbych - Denbigh.

0:40:000:40:01

-Ooh!

0:40:020:40:04

-Ready?

0:40:080:40:09

-This is rubbish!

0:40:100:40:11

-Turn your papers around now.

0:40:120:40:14

-You've both drawn similar castles.

0:40:160:40:19

-That is a bit weird.

0:40:190:40:21

-Let's move on.

0:40:220:40:23

-I enjoy being a quizmaster!

0:40:240:40:26

-Bwyd - food.

0:40:260:40:28

-This is really spooky.

-Show your pictures.

0:40:300:40:33

-You don't even like pizza!

0:40:370:40:39

-I think that definitely

-proves something.

0:40:410:40:44

-Here comes the next word.

0:40:440:40:46

-Dillad - clothes.

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-Ready?

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-Show your pictures.

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-They're almost identical.

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-They're almost identical.

-

-It made me drop my pen!

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-That's spooky.

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-Yes. You both left a gap

-and neither of you drew a head.

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-You see?

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-You see?

-

-We are telepathic!

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-We appreciate Mam and Dad's support.

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-They've travelled everywhere with us

-and they're always behind us.

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-Yes. Mam and Dad

-have been very supportive.

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-It would have been hard

-to succeed without them.

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-We really appreciate them.

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-They're on a long

-and very expensive journey.

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-You're their taxi

-and the extra equipment costs money.

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-Yes, that's definitely true.

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-The sports system

-in Wales and Britain...

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-..relies really heavily on parents.

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-Children need supportive parents...

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-..who also have the means

-to support their children.

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-It's really unfair, in some ways.

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-Many children who played with our

-daughters when they started out...

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-..fell by the wayside because their

-parents just couldn't support them.

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-It is unfair, but we're fortunate

-enough to be able to support them.

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-We've been to some incredible places

-along the way.

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-Places we would never have visited.

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-We've been to China and India and

-to several countries around Europe.

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-We've also been to Halifax,

-Barnsley and Accrington!

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-Would you be happy to see one

-of the girls turn professional...

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-..after they've graduated?

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-If one of them says they

-want to turn professional...

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-..we'd support her to the hilt.

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-One problem for British

-table tennis players...

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-..is that players don't earn

-much money in this country.

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-You couldn't live

-on simply playing table tennis.

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-Not if you stayed in Britain.

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-I usually feel nervous and excited

-before I play a match.

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-I try not to think

-about my opponent...

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-..and just focus

-on what I'm going to do.

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-I definitely have an adrenaline rush

-before a match.

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-My heart starts to race.

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-I have to control those feelings

-or I'll become really nervous.

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-At the same time, it just shows me

-that I'm excited about the match.

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-Angharad and Megan,

-can you give me a quick lesson?

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-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

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-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

-

-We'll try.

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-Great.

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-How should I hold this bat, Megan?

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-Most hold it

-as if you're shaking hands...

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-..with one finger

-going down the bat.

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-Hello! How are you?

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-Exactly.

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-You start with a serve,

-just like tennis.

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-Yes. Throw the ball up around

-six inches in a straight line.

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-A backhand serve looks like this.

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-It has to bounce on this side

-then on the other side.

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-That's it - perfect.

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-That's it - perfect.

-

-Really?

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-Yes.

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-What's the longest rally you've had?

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-What's the longest rally you've had?

-

-I don't know.

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-We once did a 300-stroke rally

-for Children In Need.

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-What?

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-The world record is eight hours.

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-The world record is eight hours.

-

-Non-stop?

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-Yes.

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-Whoa! That's a lot of hitting.

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-I don't think

-we'll try to break that record.

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-What's next for you two?

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-A competition in Luxembourg

-next week.

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-We'll travel there

-with the Wales team...

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-..to play people from across Europe.

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-It will be our biggest competition

-for a long time.

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-Megan, you're off to China.

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-Yes, I'm competing

-in the World Championships.

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-How long will you be in China?

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-For just over a week...

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-..then it's straight back

-to university to sit my exams.

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-You're getting better.

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-I spoke too soon!

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-How long will you continue

-to play table tennis?

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-We definitely want to carry on

-until the next Commonwealth Games.

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-We'll do three years at university

-and the Games will be a year away.

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-Our hope is to train hard

-and be selected again.

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-After that, I'm not sure.

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-We'll have to see how it goes.

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-You must hear this pinging noise

-in your sleep!

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-Oh, no!

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-What advice would you offer

-to a young person...

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-..who wants to take up table tennis,

-or any other sport?

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-Find a sport you really enjoy.

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-If you enjoy it, training is easy.

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-You have to put a lot of hours in...

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-..but if you make it fun,

-it doesn't feel like hard work.

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-Angharad and Megan,

-thank you for the welcome...

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-..and for the great tips.

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-Good luck in Luxembourg

-and in China.

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-Thank you.

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