Sun, 21 May 2017 10:00 Dal Ati

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-Welcome to Codi Pac.

-I, Geraint Hardy, will be travelling

-all around Wales...

-..to find some of our treasures.

-If you want a weekend away,

-you needn't travel far.

-It's all on the doorstep.

-Places to eat, places to stay,

-things to do and see.

-They're all here on Codi Pac.

-I need a few things

-for this journey. They're all here.

-I have a notebook, pamphlets,

-an orange camera...

-..a mobile phone, water, bag

-and a car.

-I don't need my passport

-because I'm staying in Wales.

-Wales may be small but there's

-plenty to do and see here.

-Over the next six programmes...

-..I'll be visiting six different

-locations.

-From Wrexham to Machynlleth,

-from Beaumaris to Merthyr Tydfil.

-I'll be looking at places to stay

-and places to eat.

-I'll find out a little local

-history and try out some activities.

-From the exciting to the relaxed,

-there'll be something for everyone.

-For help

-following the programme...

-..head to the website

-or search for the Dal Ati app.

-This week, I'm at Betws-y-Coed.

-It's a temporary resting place for

-hikers a haven for adventurers...

-..the gateway to Snowdonia and much,

-much more.

-Betws means chapel of ease,

-a small church or house of prayer.

-Betws-y-Coed means

-a house of prayer in the trees.

-It's a convenient place

-to stay in North Wales.

-Before I go to look for my hotel, I

-went for a stroll with Edmwnd Rees.

-He works

-at the local welcome centre.

-He knows quite a bit

-about the village's history.

-Edmwnd,

-we've gone past the train station.

-Where are we headed next?

-Where are we headed next?

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-We're just passing the old church.

-St Michael's Old Church is

-Betws-y-Coed's original church.

-It dates back to the 14th Century.

-There was probably

-a church here before then.

-She does get used but she doesn't

-belong to the Church in Wales.

-The Friends of St Michael's Church

-look after it.

-They hold services here. A candlelit

-service at Christmas time.

-And on St Michael's Day

-in September.

-Here we are

-nearing the first bridge.

-Yes, the suspension bridge.

-Am I right to say that this was

-the main way in to Betws-y-Coed?

-Yes, it was one of the main ways...

-..for people to come to the church

-in Betws-y-Coed.

-People could make their way over

-to Pont Y Pair.

-The road came around the mountain

-over from Capel Garmon.

-They'd cross the river here

-on stepping stones.

-Those would be dangerous,

-particularly when there was a flood.

-During the first world war...

-..soldiers from the Royal Engineers

-were billeted here.

-They built a wooden bridge across

-the river here.

-It was short-lived. I think it was

-taken away in a flood in the 1920s.

-This bridge was then built

-in 1930 by the town council.

-Is there a history to when tourists

-started coming to Betws-y-Coed.

-I would have thought it started

-during the Napoleonic Wars.

-Before then, it was traditional

-for rich people...

-..to go on a grand tour of Europe.

-That period of war

-brought an end to that.

-People turned to places

-in this country to visit.

-The Lake District and Snowdonia

-were popular.

-As a result of all these people

-touring North Wales...

-..a lot of artists came

-to stay in Betws-y-Coed.

-Famous people like David Cox stayed

-at the Royal Oak and other places.

-They would make paintings

-and then people would see them.

-When the railway came

-to Betws in 1868...

-..that enabled more ordinary people

-to come here on holiday.

-Most of the artists

-were from wealthy families.

-Different people came then

-and the village grew.

-It grew to the size you see now.

-Most of the buildings were built

-shortly after the railway came here.

-A lot of people have done

-the hike that I'm doing today.

-Where do I go next,

-for which bridge do I aim?

-You can head up towards Pont Y Pair.

-It crosses the Llugwy river.

-That's the oldest bridge

-in the village.

-It dates back to the 15th Century.

-If you want to do

-an additional two miles...

-..you can head up the river

-to Miners bridge.

-That's a wooden bridge

-built on an old roman road.

-I've got quite a journey

-ahead of me today.

-It's a wonderful day

-so why not go for it.

-Thanks very much, Edmwnd

-for the history and advice.

-Are you heading back to the office?

-Are you heading back to the office?

-

-Yes. It was nice to meet you.

-Good luck with the programme

-and your journey.

-It's great to meet local people.

-They're full of interesting

-and useful local knowledge.

-Betws is a beautiful village.

-The Conwy and Llugwy rivers

-are very popular attractions.

-Waterloo bridge

-is well worth seeing.

-It was built by Thomas Telford.

-I'm walking out of the village,

-past Pont Y Pair.

-It's worth pausing here

-to enjoy the views.

-I head further

-along the Llugwy river...

-..toward another bridge

-that's worth a look.

-The Miners Bridge

-was originally built...

-..for the men who worked

-at the nearby lead mines.

-It's the perfect spot

-to take a photograph.

-After visiting the Miners Bridge...

-..it's worth making the effort

-to visit the Swallow Falls.

-It's around three miles to the west

-of Betws-y-Coed.

-It's been a popular attraction

-since the 19th Century.

-Without a doubt, it's stunning.

-It's the perfect end

-to a wonderful hike.

-This really is beautiful.

-The next step of my journey

-is the Olif Hotel.

-I've seen people throw coins

-into the water.

-Why not.

-After my long hike...

-..I can't think of a better place

-to put my head down than Olif hotel.

-This guesthouse is also

-a Welsh tapas restaurant.

-It is apparently Betws-y-Coed's

-first boutique town house.

-Each en-suite bedroom

-has been designed individually.

-Mine is on the top floor.

-I'm already happy!

-Look at this.

-This looks like a French bed.

-There's Welsh tapestry on the bed.

-There's plenty of light in the room.

-This is clever,

-rather than fitting a cupboard...

-..they've kept it fresh and clean

-with a pole to hang your clothes.

-Let's check out the bathroom.

-It's nice and modern.

-There's a wonderful shower here.

-Dear me, check out this bath!

-In addition to bedrooms...

-..the restaurant is decorated simply

-with open fireplaces...

-..wooden floors

-and tasteful furniture.

-Mari and Aubrey Martin-Matthews

-own this wonderful place.

-Mari was raised in Manchester

-by her Welsh-speaking family...

-..who are originally from Lleyn.

-..who are originally from Lleyn.

-

-For years, we've considered

-opening a bed and breakfast.

-For years, we've considered

-opening a bed and breakfast.

-We collected recipes for years with

-a view to opening a restaurant.

-We saw this place

-and thought this was it.

-We decided that to start,

-we'd open a bed and breakfast.

-When we saw this place,

-it was nothing like it is now...

-We thought, it'll be a lot of work

-because we had to redo everything...

-..every wall, everything.

-It took time for us to do it.

-I thought it was worth it.

-I've noticed that a lot of the

-things you have here are from Wales.

-Was that a deliberate choice?

-We thought it was important to make

-sure that we used local produce.

-We wanted to support

-local businesses.

-The quality of food in North Wales

-and throughout Wales is amazing.

-We use Welsh produce

-for everything we can.

-We heard about this guy

-who produced Welsh chorizo.

-I thought why don't we do tapas.

-Then we can do all kinds of things

-to show off the Welsh food.

-We can showcase them

-in different ways.

-We wanted to do something

-a little more quirky.

-Thanks for the chat, Mari

-and thanks for letting me stay.

-Thank you.

-There are plenty of places

-to stay at Betws-y-Coed.

-Like this place.

-This is the Vagabond Bunkhouse.

-A lot of mountain bikers stay here.

-A lot of young people stay here.

-There are also family rooms.

-The important question is, who gets

-the top bunk.

-People from all over the world

-have signed this flag.

-I think it's important

-for Codi Pac to sign it too.

-We move on now to

-The Ferns Guesthouse.

-It's run by Sarah Jones

-who is learning Welsh.

-Sarah, we're here at your hotel,

-The Ferns.

-Thanks for the welcome.

-For how long

-have you been learning Welsh?

-I've been learning Welsh

-for six years.

-From where do you come, originally?

-Originally, I lived in Oxford.

-Did you move here to Betws-y-Coed

-to run the hotel?

-Yes, my husband and I

-wanted to run the hotel.

-We also wanted a change.

-Do a lot of people come here

-from abroad?

-People from all over the world

-come to stay here.

-We get a lot of people here...

-..who have travelled across

-the sea to The Ferns.

-A lot of people come

-from the Midlands.

-Around two years ago...

-..I had a lady from Japan

-was staying at the house.

-It was quite interesting because

-the woman was learning Welsh.

-She was from Japan and spoke Welsh.

-She'd learned like you.

-She'd learned like you.

-

-Yeah.

-I was impressed.

-What's the best thing about

-Betws-y-Coed in your opinion?

-Why do people come here?

-There are a lot of things to do

-in the village.

-You can go walking in the forest.

-You can walk along the river.

-You can play in the orchard.

-Of course, a lot of people

-want to walk up Snowdon.

-For you, do you speak Welsh

-in and around the village?

-Of course.

-I try.

-I like speaking Welsh with

-the ladies in the newspaper shop.

-I like to speak Welsh with the

-ladies in Spar...

-..when I'm buying bread and cakes.

-What advice would you give someone

-who wants to learn Welsh?

-I'm not sure what the Welsh is

-but in English, go for it.

-"Cer amdani" - go for it.

-"Cer amdani" - go for it.

-

-Go for it.

-There's one thing I like to do which

-is take a picture, can I do that?

-Yes.

-Yes.

-

-OK, one, two, three.

-If you need more information about

-places to stay head to our website.

-Ah, great. Wonderful.

-Great. Lovely.

-After a wonderful day in

-Betws-y-Coed, I'm a little tired.

-I'm lucky I can escape

-back to the hotel.

-I've had a nice relaxed day today

-in sunny Betws-y-Coed.

-In part two,

-things get more exciting.

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-After a good night's sleep,

-I'm looking forward...

-..to another busy day

-in Betws-y-Coed.

-First things first, breakfast!

-First things first, breakfast!

-

-Good morning!

-Here we go.

-Great, thanks.

-I'll put the toast there

-for a minute.

-It's a nice day, isn't it?

-Yes. What are you up to today?

-Have you planned?

-I'm going to Zipworld today.

-A bit of an adventure today.

-Eat that and rest up for a little.

-Thanks very much, Mari.

-Thanks very much, Mari.

-

-Sauce?

-I'm fine, thanks.

-Traditionally, it's the incredible

-views and mountains...

-..that attracted people to this part

-of North Wales.

-People come here

-to walk and climb mountains...

-..and to enjoy

-the breathtaking beaches.

-There are now new activities which

-appeal to a new breed of tourist.

-I'm looking forward to learning more

-in the company of Rhys Watkin.

-Can you explain what Zipworld is?

-It's a company that offers

-alternative experiences.

-There are three different locations.

-Can you explain the difference

-between the three locations?

-This is Zipworld Fforest

-outside Betws-y-Coed.

-We offer a lot of experiences

-up in the trees.

-We have a location in Bethesda

-in Penrhyn Quarry.

-That's where the long Zipworld line

-that everyone's seen is.

-We also have the slate caverns

-in Blaenau Ffestiniog.

-They're similar

-just set in old caves.

-A lot of fun.

-You're open all year too.

-If people travel from far, they can

-get here from the village for free.

-We offer a park and ride

-from Betws-y-Coed.

-If you fancy coming to Fforest...

-..you can jump in the park and ride

-and come on up.

-It looks like a lot of fun.

-Where do we start?

-We'll start on the nets.

-Let's go for it.

-There's a bounce, isn't there.

-You're better at bouncing.

-The corners are the trick.

-The corners are the trick.

-

-The corners are hard.

-As you can see, there are paths

-that go around the forest.

-They lead to larger squares

-like this square.

-In some of the squares or rooms

-there are balls.

-High knees! Boom boom!

-If you do come here

-with your children...

-..I'll say one thing,

-it's hard work.

-I'm out of breath.

-A tip from the top,

-once you are tired...

-..this is the perfect place

-to lie down and enjoy the view.

-I don't need a hotel.

-I'll just sleep here.

-There's traffic on the road,

-down I go!

-Excuse me, excuse me.

-Since I was a young child,

-I have always enjoyed slides.

-There's only one way

-to finish the journey. Bye!

-Rhys, that's amazing.

-There is one small thing left.

-Yes, the plummet.

-Yes, the plummet.

-

-The plummet.

-Ready?

-Ready?

-

-Yes.

-Before plummeting,

-you have to climb.

-You climb a 106-foot high tree.

-One, two, three.

-Oh, that's horrible.

-Thank heavens I'm safe.

-After all that excitement,

-I'm pretty hungry.

-There's plenty of choice of places

-to eat here in Betws-y-Coed.

-There's a wonderful coffee shop

-near the old station.

-Or you can enjoy the atmosphere

-of an old-fashioned train carriage.

-After the excitement of Zipworld,

-where better to relax...

-..than Betws-y-Coed's pizzeria.

-There's a warm welcome

-to everyone in the family.

-A percentage of their profits go

-toward protecting wild animals...

-..like the orangutan.

-If it's a cold day, they have

-blankets so you can sit outside.

-As it's warm today,

-I'm going to sunbathe!

-On the other hand,

-if you enjoy ugly houses...

-..there's one outside the village.

-If pub grub is more your thing...

-..the Ty Gwyn is on the edge of

-the village next to Waterloo bridge.

-A warm, cosy place that offers

-traditional fare.

-Bye!

-It's been a full day

-to say the least.

-I've had some food.

-I'm travelling in style now.

-I'm on Betws-y-Coed's

-small steam train.

-It's perfect for the family's big

-kids, like me...

-..and the small kids too.

-Choo, choo!

-After relaxing on the steam train,

-you can visit the museum.

-There's plenty of history

-and big kids' toys to enjoy.

-Next, we're heading out

-of Betws-y-Coed to Ffin y Parc.

-It's a grand house

-on the road to Llanrwst.

-It's a unique place

-that's worth a visit.

-I've heard a lot about this place.

-Everybody says it's worth a visit.

-That's certainly true

-as you walk in.

-Look at these great stairs

-and there's art on every wall.

-Over here, there's a small

-welcoming cafe in the sunlight.

-It's peaceful,

-relaxing and elegant.

-It's all encompassed in one place.

-This place is awesome.

-Rowland, Ffin Y Parc

-is an incredible building.

-Can you tell us

-some of the place's history.

-We moved here around ten years ago.

-We decided to open a gallery.

-We're now in our sixth year.

-We've had dozens

-of different shows every year.

-Every month, we take everything off

-the walls and replace them all.

-What kind of work

-do you accept here?

-Is there a theme?

-The artist has to have

-a link to Wales.

-They've either lived here

-or worked here.

-Some of them paint landscape.

-Some of them do portraits

-or abstract art.

-There's no overarching theme

-for all the work.

-But there must be something

-to connect the artist with Wales.

-It's wonderful.

-What big or exciting names

-have you had displayed here?

-Chloe Holt, she's a young artist.

-She's attracting

-a lot of attention at the moment.

-And then there's Elfyn Jones.

-We also have Elfyn Lewis.

-We have two Elfyns.

-Elfyn Lewis is from Porthmadog,

-his work is exciting.

-He's won a gold medal

-at the Eisteddfod.

-A lot of people come here

-once or twice a week.

-There's a coffee shop here

-so people come to sit and chat.

-They see what's on the walls

-and buy it.

-What kind of food do you do?

-We do tea and coffee.

-There's a selection of cakes

-every day.

-We make everything here.

-Between 12.00 and 2.30 we have

-sandwiches, quiche.

-There are specials every day.

-There's soup or burgers or pasta

-or salads, that kind of stuff.

-Rowland, it's been a pleasure

-to be here today.

-I'm going to wander around

-the place. Thanks for the chat.

-It's been an adventure from start

-to finish here in Betws-y-Coed.

-I've found a haven.

-A quiet place to look back

-on my journey with a smile.

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-Angharad and Megan Phillips

-are twins...

-..and they've made a name for

-themselves as table tennis players.

-I'm Angharad.

-I'm Angharad.

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-And I'm Megan.

-We're both 21 years old, but I'm

-older than Angharad by one minute.

-We got a table tennis table as a

-Christmas present when we were ten.

-We now play for Wales.

-We represented our country in the

-2010 Commonwealth Games in India...

-..and in the

-2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow.

-Angharad and Megan,

-you're university students.

-Where do you study?

-We're in our first year at Durham

-studying Sociology.

-Do you live together?

-We live in the same college, but

-there are 200 people in one college.

-We see each other a lot...

-..but it's not as if

-we live in a house together.

-How often do you see each other?

-We're doing the same course, so we

-see each other at every lecture...

-..but we have a different group

-of friends and that's a good thing.

-It's nice

-to spend a bit of time apart.

-How much training do you do

-for your table tennis?

-Before we went to university,

-we played all the time.

-We played twice a day

-and we went to the gym too.

-Now that we're studying too,

-we try to train whenever we can.

-What sort of thing do you do

-in training?

-We usually train at the table,

-so we work on different shots.

-We also go to the gym

-to work on our fitness...

-..and on our strength.

-How popular is table tennis?

-Not many Welsh people play...

-..but table tennis is the second

-most popular sport in the world...

-..because so many Asians play it.

-Hopefully, a lot more British people

-will play one day.

-How exactly do the rankings work?

-It depends who you beat

-in competitions.

-The points you gain depend

-on your opponent's world ranking.

-At the moment, Megan is ranked

-slightly higher than me...

-..and that's no fun at all!

-I can work on that.

-What are your current rankings?

-I'm ranked number three in Wales

-and Angharad is number four. Sorry!

-Ooh!

-I'm not sure

-what my world ranking is...

-..but it's around 400 or 500.

-Megan is a minute older than me,

-but I don't see her as a big sister.

-I don't let her boss me around.

-I see her more as a friend.

-I like spending time with Megan

-because she's funny...

-..and she's kind, most of the time!

-Megan, I'm sure you and Angharad

-are always interviewed as a pair.

-Is it sometimes nice to find some

-peace and quiet in your bedroom?

-Yes, it's nice to find some peace.

-We do a lot together, but I do enjoy

-being alone sometimes.

-Tell me about your hobbies.

-What do you enjoy doing beside

-studying and playing table tennis?

-I like several different sports

-such as netball and hockey.

-The two of us like football too.

-I watch a lot of sport on TV

-and I like watching films.

-I also enjoy

-socializing with my friends.

-You celebrated your 21st birthday

-a few months ago.

-Yes, and it was nice

-to celebrate with the family.

-Mam and Dad organized

-an amazing trip for us...

-..to watch Italy

-play Wales at rugby.

-That was an amazing trip.

-Are you as keen on rugby

-as those other sports?

-We both really like rugby

-and we love to watch Wales playing.

-The little teddy up there...

-..bears the legend

-2001 National Eisteddfod.

-Does that mean

-you competed in eisteddfodau?

-Yes, especially

-when we were at junior school.

-We were part of a recitation group

-and we competed in gymnastics too.

-You've been used to competing

-from a young age.

-Yes. We had the same interests and

-we're naturally competitive people.

-We competed as a pair too.

-Is one of you

-more competitive than the other?

-No, I'd say that

-we're both extremely competitive.

-You both want to win

-and that's the way it should be.

-You're similar in many ways...

-..but your taste in music and films

-is quite different.

-Yes, we're very different

-when it comes to music.

-I like a lot of rock music...

-..but Angharad

-likes 1980s and 1970s music.

-Do you argue about music

-when you travel to and from Durham?

-Yes. We never want to listen

-to each other's music.

-It can be a bit awkward!

-Other than your taste in music...

-..is there anything else

-which really sets you apart?

-Is there a really big difference

-between you?

-I'm more laid-back than Angharad...

-..but she wouldn't be happy

-to hear me say that!

-Maybe that's the main difference.

-I'm a bit more laid-back.

-Megan says

-she's more laid-back than you.

-Oh!

-Is that true?

-Is that true?

-

-I don't know. Maybe.

-If I'm being honest...

-..she copes better than me

-in a crisis.

-I get in more of a panic

-than she does, unfortunately.

-Our personalities

-are pretty similar.

-I may be slightly more sarcastic

-than her at times.

-Table tennis took up most of

-our time when we were growing up...

-..but now we're at university,

-we have time to do different things.

-Meg has done more sports,

-like netball and hockey...

-..and I've taken an interest

-in drama.

-It's strange to see how we've

-developed different interests...

-..even though we shared the same

-experiences when we were growing up.

-What aspect of drama attracts you?

-Acting and performing?

-In a sense, you have to perform

-when you play table tennis.

-Yes, it's similar in a way.

-I've played table tennis

-in front of hundreds of people...

-..at the Commonwealth Games.

-I also enjoy being on stage

-in front of lots of people.

-Do the people in your drama classes

-know about your background?

-Do they know about your huge success

-in the table tennis world?

-They found out in dribs and drabs.

-They had no idea when I joined...

-..and it was nice to do

-something different with new people.

-The best thing

-about going to university...

-..is being able to try new things.

-This is where you train

-when you're at home.

-This room could tell some stories!

-Yes, this is where I took

-my first-ever table tennis shot.

-I thought you had to serve

-like you do in tennis...

-..so the ball shot across the room!

-You'd never have imagined

-I'd end up playing for Wales!

-We've spent a lot of time

-training here.

-If your parents hadn't bought this

-table for you all those years ago...

-..what sport do you think

-you'd have taken up?

-I wanted to be an athlete

-when I was little.

-I saw Kelly Holmes win two golds in

-Athens and I wanted to emulate her.

-I think I could have ended up

-doing any sport.

-I really wanted to go to the

-Commonwealth Games doing anything.

-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

-It's lucky we got into table tennis.

-

-Yes, and your dream came true.

-This table has an important job

-over Christmas, doesn't it?

-Yes - that's where we eat.

-You sit around that table?

-A lot of people can sit around it,

-so it's done a good job for us.

-The girls told me the story

-about the table coming to the house.

-What made you buy

-a table tennis table?

-We'd made the decision...

-..to turn

-what we called the flat...

-..into a games room.

-We tried to

-come up with something...

-..that the girls

-didn't have an opportunity to try.

-They played netball and hockey

-at school.

-We wanted an indoor sport which

-would be fun for us as a family.

-It wasn't just for the girls -

-it was for Mam and Dad too!

-That's how

-we reached the decision...

-..and we found someone

-who sold table tennis tables.

-Have they always been sporty?

-Yes, absolutely.

-We're both keen on sports

-and we've always supported them.

-They've done athletics,

-swimming, gymnastics and skiing.

-They did really well

-at many of those.

-Are the rest of the family sporty?

-Yes. It runs in the family.

-It started with my grandfather.

-He represented Wales at athletics...

-..and he played rugby for Llanelli.

-My brother

-competed in the triple jump...

-..at the Edmonton Commonwealth Games

-in 1978.

-I played football for Wales and

-my cousin played rugby for Wales.

-There's something in the genes.

-Did you ever imagine they'd go

-so far in the table tennis world?

-Definitely not.

-We just gave them the opportunity.

-When they first took it up,

-I played against them...

-..and I always beat them

-during the first year.

-I remember the day Angharad beat Dad

-for the very first time.

-She ran upstairs when she won!

-It became obvious that they had

-a real passion for the sport.

-Once they had that passion, it was

-clear they'd be very successful.

-Someone from the local club

-saw them playing after school.

-They were just having a knockabout.

-This person turned to me and said...

-.."Do you realize

-your children have a real talent?"

-Six months later,

-they were playing for Wales.

-They'd only had the table

-for around 18 months at that stage.

-We realized very suddenly

-that they have a special talent.

-Join me after the break

-back here in Denbigh...

-..when I may show off

-my table tennis skills!

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-Welcome back to Denbigh,

-where I'm spending time...

-..with table tennis twins

-Angharad and Megan Phillips.

-Where are we now, ladies?

-This is one of our favourite places

-in Denbigh.

-This chocolate shop is the

-perfect place to come and relax...

-..after a training camp

-or a competition.

-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

-You've both ordered a mammoth drink.

-

-Yes. It's called The Full Monty.

-It's hot chocolate topped with

-marshmallows, a Flake and cream.

-This isn't part of your normal diet!

-No, it's a treat because

-we eat healthily most of the time.

-It's important to treat yourself!

-That's the drink,

-so what do you have to eat here?

-We love to eat chocolate pizza

-when we're here.

-Chocolate pizza?

-Thank you, Nia.

-Thank you, Nia.

-

-You're welcome.

-Wow!

-Wow!

-

-It's definitely a treat!

-This is a dream come true

-for a chocoholic like me!

-What's the best thing

-about being twins?

-We always have a friend.

-We never feel lonely.

-What's the worst thing?

-What's the worst thing?

-

-When people treat us as one person.

-We may be similar,

-but we're also individuals.

-There isn't much I dislike

-about being a twin.

-They say that twins

-finish each other's sentences...

-..and feel the same emotions.

-Is that true about you?

-When it comes to finishing

-each other's sentences...

-..we're likely to do that sometimes.

-But we don't share each other's

-emotions and we're not telepathic.

-Really?

-Really?

-

-Unfortunately not.

-Well, as it happens...

-..I have a cup here

-that's full of words.

-I'll take a word out of the cup...

-..and you write down

-the first thing that comes to mind.

-You can write a word

-or draw a picture.

-Here comes the first word.

-Anifail - animal.

-Neither of you are artists!

-You won't be able to work out

-what this is!

-Finished?

-Show your pictures to the camera.

-Angharad, what's that?

-Angharad, what's that?

-

-A cat, but it may not look like one!

-Megan?

-Megan?

-

-A lion.

-A big cat.

-A big cat.

-

-The same family.

-Yours is better than mine!

-Here comes the next word.

-Dinbych - Denbigh.

-Ooh!

-Ready?

-This is rubbish!

-Turn your papers around now.

-You've both drawn similar castles.

-That is a bit weird.

-Let's move on.

-I enjoy being a quizmaster!

-Bwyd - food.

-This is really spooky.

-Show your pictures.

-You don't even like pizza!

-I think that definitely

-proves something.

-Here comes the next word.

-Dillad - clothes.

-Ready?

-Show your pictures.

-They're almost identical.

-They're almost identical.

-

-It made me drop my pen!

-That's spooky.

-Yes. You both left a gap

-and neither of you drew a head.

-You see?

-You see?

-

-We are telepathic!

-We appreciate Mam and Dad's support.

-They've travelled everywhere with us

-and they're always behind us.

-Yes. Mam and Dad

-have been very supportive.

-It would have been hard

-to succeed without them.

-We really appreciate them.

-They're on a long

-and very expensive journey.

-You're their taxi

-and the extra equipment costs money.

-Yes, that's definitely true.

-The sports system

-in Wales and Britain...

-..relies really heavily on parents.

-Children need supportive parents...

-..who also have the means

-to support their children.

-It's really unfair, in some ways.

-Many children who played with our

-daughters when they started out...

-..fell by the wayside because their

-parents just couldn't support them.

-It is unfair, but we're fortunate

-enough to be able to support them.

-We've been to some incredible places

-along the way.

-Places we would never have visited.

-We've been to China and India and

-to several countries around Europe.

-We've also been to Halifax,

-Barnsley and Accrington!

-Would you be happy to see one

-of the girls turn professional...

-..after they've graduated?

-If one of them says they

-want to turn professional...

-..we'd support her to the hilt.

-One problem for British

-table tennis players...

-..is that players don't earn

-much money in this country.

-You couldn't live

-on simply playing table tennis.

-Not if you stayed in Britain.

-I usually feel nervous and excited

-before I play a match.

-I try not to think

-about my opponent...

-..and just focus

-on what I'm going to do.

-I definitely have an adrenaline rush

-before a match.

-My heart starts to race.

-I have to control those feelings

-or I'll become really nervous.

-At the same time, it just shows me

-that I'm excited about the match.

-Angharad and Megan,

-can you give me a quick lesson?

-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

-I'm not sure how much I'll learn!

-

-We'll try.

-Great.

-How should I hold this bat, Megan?

-Most hold it

-as if you're shaking hands...

-..with one finger

-going down the bat.

-Hello! How are you?

-Exactly.

-You start with a serve,

-just like tennis.

-Yes. Throw the ball up around

-six inches in a straight line.

-A backhand serve looks like this.

-It has to bounce on this side

-then on the other side.

-That's it - perfect.

-That's it - perfect.

-

-Really?

-Yes.

-What's the longest rally you've had?

-What's the longest rally you've had?

-

-I don't know.

-We once did a 300-stroke rally

-for Children In Need.

-What?

-The world record is eight hours.

-The world record is eight hours.

-

-Non-stop?

-Yes.

-Whoa! That's a lot of hitting.

-I don't think

-we'll try to break that record.

-What's next for you two?

-A competition in Luxembourg

-next week.

-We'll travel there

-with the Wales team...

-..to play people from across Europe.

-It will be our biggest competition

-for a long time.

-Megan, you're off to China.

-Yes, I'm competing

-in the World Championships.

-How long will you be in China?

-For just over a week...

-..then it's straight back

-to university to sit my exams.

-You're getting better.

-I spoke too soon!

-How long will you continue

-to play table tennis?

-We definitely want to carry on

-until the next Commonwealth Games.

-We'll do three years at university

-and the Games will be a year away.

-Our hope is to train hard

-and be selected again.

-After that, I'm not sure.

-We'll have to see how it goes.

-You must hear this pinging noise

-in your sleep!

-Oh, no!

-What advice would you offer

-to a young person...

-..who wants to take up table tennis,

-or any other sport?

-Find a sport you really enjoy.

-If you enjoy it, training is easy.

-You have to put a lot of hours in...

-..but if you make it fun,

-it doesn't feel like hard work.

-Angharad and Megan,

-thank you for the welcome...

-..and for the great tips.

-Good luck in Luxembourg

-and in China.

-Thank you.

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