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Mon, 03 Jul 2017

Bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chwmni Llaeth y Llan. Meinir and Alun find out how the scheme to help eliminate TB is being received by farmers and Daloni visits the Village Dairy / Lla...


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-Every Welsh cattle farmer's aim

-is to tackle and eradicate TB.

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-It's been a problem for over

-20 years for the rural community.

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-Have we found the answer in

-the Welsh Government's new plans?

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-Also tonight, Daloni visits

-a company in Llanefydd...

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-..which has diversified the farm...

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-..creating a multi-million pound

-business and local work.

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-Maintaining a vibrant countryside

-is the message from a report...

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-..published today by Baroness

-Eluned Morgan of the Labour party.

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-She's called on the Welsh Government

-to establish a strong programme...

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-..to prepare the rural economy

-for Brexit.

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-We'll look more closely

-at the report next week...

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-..and ask

-how realistic are these aims?

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-Next, a full response to the

-Welsh Government's programme...

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-..to deal with the challenge of TB

-on our farms.

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-In the words of the Government...

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-..the new programme to eradicate TB

-consists of stronger methods.

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-What are the views of those

-who must implement the new rules?

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-Alun has the story.

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-I can see the industry shrinking...

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-..and the ability of the industry

-to be of international importance.

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-They've pushed us into a corner -

-theirs is the only way.

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-It's got to be sorted out, yes...

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-..but to get people working together

-would be so much better.

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-There are many new elements

-to the programme.

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-One of those is the intention

-to split Wales into five regions...

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-..in terms of risk.

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-Two high, two medium and one low.

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-One farmer who's worried

-about splitting Wales...

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-..is former president

-of the World Limousin Society...

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-..Aled Edwards, Home Farm, Cilycwm.

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-We live in a relatively clean area.

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-We'll end up in a medium-risk area

-in terms of zoning.

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-I'm worried

-that we'll have a situation...

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-..where the market

-for selling bulls will shrink...

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-..as it has done

-over the past decade.

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-We lost our market in Scotland

-ten years ago...

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-..when the need for testing animals

-after they'd been sold came in.

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-We're seeing that happening again...

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-..in the context of what's

-happening in England and in Wales.

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-Areas in North-West England...

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-..will lose interest in bulls

-from this area.

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-If we're talking about bringing

-new blood into the herd...

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-..how difficult will that be

-in the future?

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-It'll make it difficult for us as

-we look westwards and eastwards...

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-..for stock bulls in the future.

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-It's been frustrating for us to buy

-stocks bulls over the past decade.

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-We're not very competitive

-in the British market.

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-We compete against

-the Scottish, English and Irish...

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-..for stock bulls.

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-Our market is smaller and the price

-we receive for our bulls is lower.

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-We're trying to keep the quality

-of the herd as high as possible.

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-We're trying to keep ahead

-and be adventurous in what we do.

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-The rules they've introduced

-make life more difficult for us...

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-..to maintain a progressive herd.

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-If a farm has chronic TB...

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-..an individual

-eradication plan will be created...

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-..to completely rid the herd

-of the diseases.

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-If a badger with the disease

-is found on the farm...

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-..consideration will be given

-to destroying it in a humane manner.

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-Unfortunately,

-only around 50 farms in Wales...

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-..fall into the category.

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-The question is,

-are these plans strong enough?

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-TB is a major problem

-in the Llys y Fran area.

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-Penlan dairy farm is home to three

-generations of the Griffiths family.

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-Over the past 22 months,

-they've lost 98 cattle.

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-We've suffered a lot,

-losing so many animals.

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-It's a difficult situation,

-numbers are down...

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-..and we're losing a lot of value.

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-It's nice to hear

-that they've realised...

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-..that it's the wild animals

-spreading TB in this area...

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-..amongst the dairy cows.

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-Andrew, you'll receive

-an individual plan for the farm.

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-Does that sound like

-more hard work for you?

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-We can't move any of the animals.

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-We can buy animals in...

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-..but there's an added cost.

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-We have to keep them apart,

-we need isolation units.

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-There's so much hygiene work to do.

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-They say we have to wash

-the feeding troughs after every cow.

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-It's virtually impossible.

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-It'll get worse.

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-Yes, there are so many new rules

-coming in.

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-We're not 100% sure

-what's going to happen.

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-I hope it improves

-but there's a lot of work to do.

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-If I can turn

-to the voice of experience...

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-..can you remember a time when

-things were different and better?

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-TB wasn't a problem years ago...

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-..and then TB became a problem.

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-They managed to overcome

-the problem fairly quickly.

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-They tackled it right away

-and overcame it.

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-They stopped it spreading

-in no time at all.

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-The way they're tackling it

-this time is very different.

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-We've known for months

-and many years...

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-..that they're dragging their feet.

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-They've left it too long this time.

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-The Welsh Government

-are using public money...

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-..to buy the infected cattle.

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-The intention is to decrease the

-maximum sum available to farmers...

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-..from 15,000 to 5,000.

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-The state buys the animal

-when it fails the test.

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-It's not compensation.

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-It's difficult for us to invest

-in a high quality stock bull...

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-..in the Limousin breed because

-it could cost 20,000 - 50,000.

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-If we get it back to the farm

-and it has TB, we only get 5,000.

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-It's very frustrating for us.

-We have to reassess the situation.

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-I know 5,000 is a lot of money

-but it will still affect farmers.

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-You could have an animal

-that's won in shows a few times...

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-..and it's worth a lot of money,

-this will only drag the price down.

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-It's not going to be enough

-for what you receive for the animal.

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-We buy expensive cattle

-because we breed here.

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-We've probably lost

-eight or nine cattle families.

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-You lose them overnight.

-That's more upsetting than anything.

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-When considering the measures

-in the plan...

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-..the question is,

-who will benefit the most?

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-The Government sitting in its

-offices dealing with TB from afar...

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-..or the farmers facing

-the challenges on a daily basis?

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-Certainly, it's more political

-than scientific. That's very sad.

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-We need scientific experts to stand

-up and say, "We have to do this."

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-Personally, as a family

-trying to rear the Dyfri herd...

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-..it's a worrying time again.

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-We've had worrying times in the past

-and overcome them.

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-I don't know

-how we'll survive this time.

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-I'll try and get

-as many bloodlines into the herd...

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-..and keep my customers happy...

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-..but the Government

-isn't helping me.

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-The Government

-needs to grasp the situation.

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-They have a responsibility

-to do something about the disease.

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-They put pressure on the industry,

-they talk about partnerships...

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-..but the plans they're implementing

-must gain international respect.

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-That's the response of the farmers.

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-What about other businesses

-within the industry?

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-How will it affect marts like this,

-in Carmarthen?

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-How do you see this

-affecting your business?

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-If you look at the consultation for

-marts, auctioneers and farmers...

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-..the message they sent back

-in the consultation...

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-..wasn't accepted at all.

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-These guidelines will cause

-difficulties, it'll split farmers.

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-For me, it's a step

-in the wrong direction.

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-How many buyers do you have

-coming from England?

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-From West Wales, most of the cattle

-are taken out of this area...

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-..to be fattened,

-to England, specifically...

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-..the west of England

-and as far north as Yorkshire.

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-They're clean areas.

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-Those buyers have much cheaper food

-available to fatten their animals.

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-We need them here to buy the stock.

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-That's been the system for centuries

-and it will continue.

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-Will prices fall in this area

-because of the changes?

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-I hope they don't but the buyer

-will have additional costs.

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-Those costs will come straight back

-through us to the seller.

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-If that happens,

-the cattle will be devalued.

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-The Welsh Government's

-TB eradication board...

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-..has members across the industry.

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-John Owen, Coleg Sir Gar Farm

-in Gelli Aur...

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-..is chairman

-of the south-west area.

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-We welcome the fact that the

-Government, for the first time...

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-..has acknowledged the link

-between wildlife and TB in cattle.

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-We wanted to see further steps

-involving this...

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-..but we feel it's a step

-in the right direction.

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-Is it fair on farmers that haven't

-had TB in high-risk areas?

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-This plan will devalue their cattle.

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-Unfortunately,

-the way things have developed...

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-..I can't see another way around it.

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-All the other countries

-are going in this direction.

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-They put a different emphasis

-on different areas.

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-It's unfortunate, of course...

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-..especially if your herd

-is disease-free.

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-What about the maximum compensation

-pay out?

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-Does it contradict the message...

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-..that farmers need to improve

-the quality of their stock?

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-It could be seen like that.

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-There are circumstances where it

-makes a difference to the animals.

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-It's helped improve the bulls

-in a pedigree herd.

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-In contrast to England

-where they are compensated...

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-..according to the average price

-of the cattle...

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-..when they're sold in the marts...

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-..we are better off in Wales.

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-We are compensated according to

-the value of the individual animal.

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-As well as the sellers, the cattle

-buyers are prominent in the mart.

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-What effect will this have

-on their business?

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-There's no light

-at the end of the tunnel.

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-I fear we'll be in the same position

-in five years' time.

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-Something has to be done.

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-It's affecting the lives

-of so many people.

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-They're testing the animals

-all the time.

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-The animals realise this, they

-become wild and people get injured.

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-It's unbearable.

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-We feed about 1,400 cattle

-ourselves all the time.

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-We sell 200-300 cattle a week

-through the dealing business.

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-With the new regulations, how much

-will it change things for farmers?

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-It's going to make things difficult.

-We send a lot of cattle to England.

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-Them people will not take the cattle

-because they won't test the cattle.

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-It's affecting the Welsh cattle

-and devaluing them really.

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-At times, we wonder

-if it's worth carrying on.

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-There's so much hassle about it.

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-We work hard on the job.

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-If this carries on, people

-will start leaving the industry.

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-We can't let this carry on.

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-Of course, the farmers

-must deal with the problem daily.

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-How does TB affect your business?

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-We're under restrictions

-at the moment because of the TB.

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-We've lost six animals

-over the last six months.

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-They all came back negative.

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-They need to re-do the skin test,

-it's out-of date.

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-It's already a struggle

-with the TB regulations.

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-What frustrates a lot of farmers

-is the lack of help.

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-They introduce

-more and more regulations...

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-..without trying

-to sort out the problem.

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-It's time for a break.

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-After the break, Daloni visits

-a family from Llanefydd...

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-..who've developed their milking

-parlour and invested 4m.

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-See you soon.

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-A decision facing

-many dairy farmers...

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-..is whether to give up completely,

-expand their business...

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-..or stay exactly the same...

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-..and accept that market prices

-will fluctuate.

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-Daloni meets one family

-who've diversified their farm...

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-..and now have an annual turnover

-of 4m.

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-Tal Y Bryn Farm, Llanefydd,

-home of Llaeth Y Llan.

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-Recently, their new production unit

-was opened...

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-..after an investment of over 4m.

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-Since starting the business

-32 years ago...

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-..they've increased a business

-which once had 50 cows...

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-..to a business which is prominent

-across the country.

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-Back in the 1980s, Gareth and Falmai

-Roberts had a small milk round...

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-..delivering from door to door

-locally, selling their milk.

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-They would talk to their customers

-and understood their needs.

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-Like every market, fashions changed.

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-Skimmed milk was new at the time.

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-They started potting the leftover

-cream and started making yogurt.

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-When we started,

-everyone wanted low fat.

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-It was important.

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-There was an image that fat

-was bad for you...

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-..and it made you put on weight.

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-Because we had so much skim

-left over...

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-..it was a great opportunity for us.

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-In those days, low fat was popular.

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-How much milk

-were you processing at the time?

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-At the start,

-we had plenty of skim left over...

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-..but the business grew

-to a point...

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-..that we were buying milk

-in by the 1990s...

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-..in addition to the milk

-from our dairy herd.

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-We were just reacting

-to the demand in the market.

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-The truth about it,

-as owners of the business...

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-..we weren't showing

-that much enterprise.

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-We were just reacting to the demand.

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-We were doing

-a little bit more each time.

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-In truth,

-we knew how to fill 1,000 pots...

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-..but filling one more

-was a new experience.

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-It worked, Falmai.

-You spoke to people face-to-face.

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-You had faith in your produce.

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-You also needed confidence

-in yourself as a business...

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-..to produce that level.

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-Customers wanted to know

-where the produce came from...

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-..and they wanted to see us

-week on week.

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-That's important to them and us.

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-It's a good story. It's been

-a big boost to market the produce.

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-As the Llaeth Y Llan name spread...

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-..orders came in

-from the big supermarkets.

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-As the business grew,

-difficult decisions had to be made.

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-Should they invest in the milking...

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-..or continue expanding

-the yogurt business.

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-How difficult

-was making that big decision?

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-Stop milking and produce

-more yogurt.

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-It was a difficult decision...

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-..because I came from

-an agricultural background.

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-From an economic point of view,

-it was an easy decision.

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-We could make enough money

-from the farm to re-invest.

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-It was essential for us

-to concentrate on the yogurt.

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-As Llaeth Y Llan

-celebrated 25 years of production...

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-..the milking parlour was closed.

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-All the milk used here comes

-from within 10 miles of the farm.

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-It's brought here

-by De Arfon Creameries.

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-They produce 60 tonnes of yogurt

-every week.

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-We've rebranded.

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-That strengthened the brand.

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-Our sales increased

-on the back of that.

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-We also built a new facility

-to produce more yogurt.

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-That must have been a huge step.

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-It was a huge step

-but it was also very satisfying.

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-We were missing out on contracts

-because we didn't have the capacity.

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-Did you receive financial aid

-for the new facility?

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-There was a grant

-from the Welsh Government...

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-..to create jobs.

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-It's linked to the number of jobs

-we create.

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-How many people work here now?

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-We have 50 people working here.

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-We hope to increase the workforce

-to 70 within four years.

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-How easy is it to make a profit

-from yogurt?

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-Can you make big profits?

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-It's not easy. You have to keep

-your production costs down.

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-The production cost of the item

-is crucial.

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-The political landscape

-is changing quickly.

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-How much of an impact

-will Brexit have on your business?

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-In the past year,

-our production costs have increased.

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-The price of imported raw materials

-from Europe has risen.

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-Pots, caps, lids, the price

-of plastic has increased...

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-..but the value of the pound has

-presented us with opportunities...

0:21:420:21:48

-..with European supermarkets.

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-Customers want to work

-with British firms...

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-..instead of importing from Europe.

0:21:550:21:57

-You have an incredible work ethic.

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-You've worked very hard

-to get to where you are.

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-Yes, but it's been very satisfying.

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-If you don't enjoy something,

-you wouldn't do it.

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-You do it for yourself

-and your family.

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-That's very important.

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-Is it too late for people

-to consider diversifying?

0:22:240:22:27

-No, not at all.

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-I'm saying that because

-if that person has energy...

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-..if that person is happy

-working outside normal hours...

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-..if that person is happy

-to produce high-quality produce...

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-..there's plenty of hope.

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-What's the future for Llaeth Y Llan?

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-The future is creating jobs...

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-..and create a future

-for my family...

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-..by putting something in place

-that will last another generation.

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-That's it for this week.

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-From Carmarthen Mart, cheerio.

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Bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chwmni Llaeth y Llan. Meinir and Alun find out how the scheme to help eliminate TB is being received by farmers and Daloni visits the Village Dairy / Llaeth y Llan.


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