Bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chwmni Llaeth y Llan. Meinir and Alun find out how the scheme to help eliminate TB is being received by farmers and Daloni visits the Village Dairy / Lla...
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-Every Welsh cattle farmer's aim
-is to tackle and eradicate TB.
-It's been a problem for over
-20 years for the rural community.
-Have we found the answer in
-the Welsh Government's new plans?
-Also tonight, Daloni visits
-a company in Llanefydd...
-..which has diversified the farm...
-..creating a multi-million pound
-business and local work.
-Maintaining a vibrant countryside
-is the message from a report...
-..published today by Baroness
-Eluned Morgan of the Labour party.
-She's called on the Welsh Government
-to establish a strong programme...
-..to prepare the rural economy
-We'll look more closely
-at the report next week...
-how realistic are these aims?
-Next, a full response to the
-Welsh Government's programme...
-..to deal with the challenge of TB
-on our farms.
-In the words of the Government...
-..the new programme to eradicate TB
-consists of stronger methods.
-What are the views of those
-who must implement the new rules?
-Alun has the story.
-I can see the industry shrinking...
-..and the ability of the industry
-to be of international importance.
-They've pushed us into a corner -
-theirs is the only way.
-It's got to be sorted out, yes...
-..but to get people working together
-would be so much better.
-There are many new elements
-to the programme.
-One of those is the intention
-to split Wales into five regions...
-..in terms of risk.
-Two high, two medium and one low.
-One farmer who's worried
-about splitting Wales...
-..is former president
-of the World Limousin Society...
-..Aled Edwards, Home Farm, Cilycwm.
-We live in a relatively clean area.
-We'll end up in a medium-risk area
-in terms of zoning.
-that we'll have a situation...
-..where the market
-for selling bulls will shrink...
-..as it has done
-over the past decade.
-We lost our market in Scotland
-ten years ago...
-..when the need for testing animals
-after they'd been sold came in.
-We're seeing that happening again...
-..in the context of what's
-happening in England and in Wales.
-Areas in North-West England...
-..will lose interest in bulls
-from this area.
-If we're talking about bringing
-new blood into the herd...
-..how difficult will that be
-in the future?
-It'll make it difficult for us as
-we look westwards and eastwards...
-..for stock bulls in the future.
-It's been frustrating for us to buy
-stocks bulls over the past decade.
-We're not very competitive
-in the British market.
-We compete against
-the Scottish, English and Irish...
-..for stock bulls.
-Our market is smaller and the price
-we receive for our bulls is lower.
-We're trying to keep the quality
-of the herd as high as possible.
-We're trying to keep ahead
-and be adventurous in what we do.
-The rules they've introduced
-make life more difficult for us...
-..to maintain a progressive herd.
-If a farm has chronic TB...
-eradication plan will be created...
-..to completely rid the herd
-of the diseases.
-If a badger with the disease
-is found on the farm...
-..consideration will be given
-to destroying it in a humane manner.
-only around 50 farms in Wales...
-..fall into the category.
-The question is,
-are these plans strong enough?
-TB is a major problem
-in the Llys y Fran area.
-Penlan dairy farm is home to three
-generations of the Griffiths family.
-Over the past 22 months,
-they've lost 98 cattle.
-We've suffered a lot,
-losing so many animals.
-It's a difficult situation,
-numbers are down...
-..and we're losing a lot of value.
-It's nice to hear
-that they've realised...
-..that it's the wild animals
-spreading TB in this area...
-..amongst the dairy cows.
-Andrew, you'll receive
-an individual plan for the farm.
-Does that sound like
-more hard work for you?
-We can't move any of the animals.
-We can buy animals in...
-..but there's an added cost.
-We have to keep them apart,
-we need isolation units.
-There's so much hygiene work to do.
-They say we have to wash
-the feeding troughs after every cow.
-It's virtually impossible.
-It'll get worse.
-Yes, there are so many new rules
-We're not 100% sure
-what's going to happen.
-I hope it improves
-but there's a lot of work to do.
-If I can turn
-to the voice of experience...
-..can you remember a time when
-things were different and better?
-TB wasn't a problem years ago...
-..and then TB became a problem.
-They managed to overcome
-the problem fairly quickly.
-They tackled it right away
-and overcame it.
-They stopped it spreading
-in no time at all.
-The way they're tackling it
-this time is very different.
-We've known for months
-and many years...
-..that they're dragging their feet.
-They've left it too long this time.
-The Welsh Government
-are using public money...
-..to buy the infected cattle.
-The intention is to decrease the
-maximum sum available to farmers...
-..from 15,000 to 5,000.
-The state buys the animal
-when it fails the test.
-It's not compensation.
-It's difficult for us to invest
-in a high quality stock bull...
-..in the Limousin breed because
-it could cost 20,000 - 50,000.
-If we get it back to the farm
-and it has TB, we only get 5,000.
-It's very frustrating for us.
-We have to reassess the situation.
-I know 5,000 is a lot of money
-but it will still affect farmers.
-You could have an animal
-that's won in shows a few times...
-..and it's worth a lot of money,
-this will only drag the price down.
-It's not going to be enough
-for what you receive for the animal.
-We buy expensive cattle
-because we breed here.
-We've probably lost
-eight or nine cattle families.
-You lose them overnight.
-That's more upsetting than anything.
-When considering the measures
-in the plan...
-..the question is,
-who will benefit the most?
-The Government sitting in its
-offices dealing with TB from afar...
-..or the farmers facing
-the challenges on a daily basis?
-Certainly, it's more political
-than scientific. That's very sad.
-We need scientific experts to stand
-up and say, "We have to do this."
-Personally, as a family
-trying to rear the Dyfri herd...
-..it's a worrying time again.
-We've had worrying times in the past
-and overcome them.
-I don't know
-how we'll survive this time.
-I'll try and get
-as many bloodlines into the herd...
-..and keep my customers happy...
-..but the Government
-isn't helping me.
-needs to grasp the situation.
-They have a responsibility
-to do something about the disease.
-They put pressure on the industry,
-they talk about partnerships...
-..but the plans they're implementing
-must gain international respect.
-That's the response of the farmers.
-What about other businesses
-within the industry?
-How will it affect marts like this,
-How do you see this
-affecting your business?
-If you look at the consultation for
-marts, auctioneers and farmers...
-..the message they sent back
-in the consultation...
-..wasn't accepted at all.
-These guidelines will cause
-difficulties, it'll split farmers.
-For me, it's a step
-in the wrong direction.
-How many buyers do you have
-coming from England?
-From West Wales, most of the cattle
-are taken out of this area...
-..to be fattened,
-to England, specifically...
-..the west of England
-and as far north as Yorkshire.
-They're clean areas.
-Those buyers have much cheaper food
-available to fatten their animals.
-We need them here to buy the stock.
-That's been the system for centuries
-and it will continue.
-Will prices fall in this area
-because of the changes?
-I hope they don't but the buyer
-will have additional costs.
-Those costs will come straight back
-through us to the seller.
-If that happens,
-the cattle will be devalued.
-The Welsh Government's
-TB eradication board...
-..has members across the industry.
-John Owen, Coleg Sir Gar Farm
-in Gelli Aur...
-of the south-west area.
-We welcome the fact that the
-Government, for the first time...
-..has acknowledged the link
-between wildlife and TB in cattle.
-We wanted to see further steps
-..but we feel it's a step
-in the right direction.
-Is it fair on farmers that haven't
-had TB in high-risk areas?
-This plan will devalue their cattle.
-the way things have developed...
-..I can't see another way around it.
-All the other countries
-are going in this direction.
-They put a different emphasis
-on different areas.
-It's unfortunate, of course...
-..especially if your herd
-What about the maximum compensation
-Does it contradict the message...
-..that farmers need to improve
-the quality of their stock?
-It could be seen like that.
-There are circumstances where it
-makes a difference to the animals.
-It's helped improve the bulls
-in a pedigree herd.
-In contrast to England
-where they are compensated...
-..according to the average price
-of the cattle...
-..when they're sold in the marts...
-..we are better off in Wales.
-We are compensated according to
-the value of the individual animal.
-As well as the sellers, the cattle
-buyers are prominent in the mart.
-What effect will this have
-on their business?
-There's no light
-at the end of the tunnel.
-I fear we'll be in the same position
-in five years' time.
-Something has to be done.
-It's affecting the lives
-of so many people.
-They're testing the animals
-all the time.
-The animals realise this, they
-become wild and people get injured.
-We feed about 1,400 cattle
-ourselves all the time.
-We sell 200-300 cattle a week
-through the dealing business.
-With the new regulations, how much
-will it change things for farmers?
-It's going to make things difficult.
-We send a lot of cattle to England.
-Them people will not take the cattle
-because they won't test the cattle.
-It's affecting the Welsh cattle
-and devaluing them really.
-At times, we wonder
-if it's worth carrying on.
-There's so much hassle about it.
-We work hard on the job.
-If this carries on, people
-will start leaving the industry.
-We can't let this carry on.
-Of course, the farmers
-must deal with the problem daily.
-How does TB affect your business?
-We're under restrictions
-at the moment because of the TB.
-We've lost six animals
-over the last six months.
-They all came back negative.
-They need to re-do the skin test,
-it's out-of date.
-It's already a struggle
-with the TB regulations.
-What frustrates a lot of farmers
-is the lack of help.
-more and more regulations...
-to sort out the problem.
-It's time for a break.
-After the break, Daloni visits
-a family from Llanefydd...
-..who've developed their milking
-parlour and invested 4m.
-See you soon.
-A decision facing
-many dairy farmers...
-..is whether to give up completely,
-expand their business...
-..or stay exactly the same...
-..and accept that market prices
-Daloni meets one family
-who've diversified their farm...
-..and now have an annual turnover
-Tal Y Bryn Farm, Llanefydd,
-home of Llaeth Y Llan.
-Recently, their new production unit
-..after an investment of over 4m.
-Since starting the business
-32 years ago...
-..they've increased a business
-which once had 50 cows...
-..to a business which is prominent
-across the country.
-Back in the 1980s, Gareth and Falmai
-Roberts had a small milk round...
-..delivering from door to door
-locally, selling their milk.
-They would talk to their customers
-and understood their needs.
-Like every market, fashions changed.
-Skimmed milk was new at the time.
-They started potting the leftover
-cream and started making yogurt.
-When we started,
-everyone wanted low fat.
-It was important.
-There was an image that fat
-was bad for you...
-..and it made you put on weight.
-Because we had so much skim
-..it was a great opportunity for us.
-In those days, low fat was popular.
-How much milk
-were you processing at the time?
-At the start,
-we had plenty of skim left over...
-..but the business grew
-to a point...
-..that we were buying milk
-in by the 1990s...
-..in addition to the milk
-from our dairy herd.
-We were just reacting
-to the demand in the market.
-The truth about it,
-as owners of the business...
-..we weren't showing
-that much enterprise.
-We were just reacting to the demand.
-We were doing
-a little bit more each time.
-we knew how to fill 1,000 pots...
-..but filling one more
-was a new experience.
-It worked, Falmai.
-You spoke to people face-to-face.
-You had faith in your produce.
-You also needed confidence
-in yourself as a business...
-..to produce that level.
-Customers wanted to know
-where the produce came from...
-..and they wanted to see us
-week on week.
-That's important to them and us.
-It's a good story. It's been
-a big boost to market the produce.
-As the Llaeth Y Llan name spread...
-..orders came in
-from the big supermarkets.
-As the business grew,
-difficult decisions had to be made.
-Should they invest in the milking...
-..or continue expanding
-the yogurt business.
-was making that big decision?
-Stop milking and produce
-It was a difficult decision...
-..because I came from
-an agricultural background.
-From an economic point of view,
-it was an easy decision.
-We could make enough money
-from the farm to re-invest.
-It was essential for us
-to concentrate on the yogurt.
-As Llaeth Y Llan
-celebrated 25 years of production...
-..the milking parlour was closed.
-All the milk used here comes
-from within 10 miles of the farm.
-It's brought here
-by De Arfon Creameries.
-They produce 60 tonnes of yogurt
-That strengthened the brand.
-Our sales increased
-on the back of that.
-We also built a new facility
-to produce more yogurt.
-That must have been a huge step.
-It was a huge step
-but it was also very satisfying.
-We were missing out on contracts
-because we didn't have the capacity.
-Did you receive financial aid
-for the new facility?
-There was a grant
-from the Welsh Government...
-..to create jobs.
-It's linked to the number of jobs
-How many people work here now?
-We have 50 people working here.
-We hope to increase the workforce
-to 70 within four years.
-How easy is it to make a profit
-Can you make big profits?
-It's not easy. You have to keep
-your production costs down.
-The production cost of the item
-The political landscape
-is changing quickly.
-How much of an impact
-will Brexit have on your business?
-In the past year,
-our production costs have increased.
-The price of imported raw materials
-from Europe has risen.
-Pots, caps, lids, the price
-of plastic has increased...
-..but the value of the pound has
-presented us with opportunities...
-..with European supermarkets.
-Customers want to work
-with British firms...
-..instead of importing from Europe.
-You have an incredible work ethic.
-You've worked very hard
-to get to where you are.
-Yes, but it's been very satisfying.
-If you don't enjoy something,
-you wouldn't do it.
-You do it for yourself
-and your family.
-That's very important.
-Is it too late for people
-to consider diversifying?
-No, not at all.
-I'm saying that because
-if that person has energy...
-..if that person is happy
-working outside normal hours...
-..if that person is happy
-to produce high-quality produce...
-..there's plenty of hope.
-What's the future for Llaeth Y Llan?
-The future is creating jobs...
-..and create a future
-for my family...
-..by putting something in place
-that will last another generation.
-That's it for this week.
-From Carmarthen Mart, cheerio.
-S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf.
Bydd Daloni yn ymweld a chwmni Llaeth y Llan. Meinir and Alun find out how the scheme to help eliminate TB is being received by farmers and Daloni visits the Village Dairy / Llaeth y Llan.