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Mon, 26 Jun 2017

Bydd Alun yn gweld sut mae un teulu wedi mynd ati i gynhyrchu cig gafr yn Sir Benfro. Alun hears how one family in Pembrokeshire has started producing goat meat.


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-TB is an issue that causes concern

-for many Welsh farmers.

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-The Welsh Government

-has published its latest plan...

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-..to tackle the problem.

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-What does it mean for farmers?

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-I'll be asking the Cabinet Secretary

-for Environment and Rural Affairs...

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-..Lesley Griffiths, about the plan.

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-I'll also catch up with

-Christianne Glossop and the unions.

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-Daloni will hear about

-a new enterprise for young farmers.

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-Alun visits one family hoping to see

-a rise in popularity for goat meat.

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-The Welsh Government published its

-TB eradication plan nine years ago.

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-Since then,

-we've had numerous updates.

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-How effective

-has the Government's efforts been?

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-The disease continues

-to destroy lives and businesses.

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-The level of TB in Wales

-has remained constant.

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-There's been a reduction

-in the number of herds affected...

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-..since 2012, but the number

-of cattle killed in the past year...

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-..is 22% higher

-than the previous year.

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-Following hours of debate

-in the National Assembly...

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-..what are their plans

-to tackle the problem?

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-We'll start those action plans and

-that will be part of the process.

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-It's important we have

-an eradication programme.

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-We want a TB-free Wales.

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-I went out to consultation

-following a statement last October.

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-One area we're taking forward

-is the regionalisation approach.

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-Many people wanted that,

-some people didn't.

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-I think it's the right approach.

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-The low incidents area

-will be able to declare TB free...

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-..in the short term.

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-That will send out

-a positive message.

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-There will be farmers who won't

-have had TB. Is it fair for them?

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-That's something

-we would have to monitor.

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-We looked at whether we should have

-an annual delivery plan.

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-I think the delivery plan

-should be flexible...

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-..and something

-we monitor carefully.

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-If that is the case,

-we can react to it.

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-Looking at the cap of 5,000

-in compensation per animal...

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-..this will have a dramatic effect

-on pedigree herds.

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-We looked at the difference it would

-have made on last year's figures.

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-It would have affected 1%

-of the compensation.

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-We have to do something

-to save funding.

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-Some of our funding budget

-comes from the EU.

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-We won't have that

-in a few years' time.

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-If people are concerned

-about pedigree cattle...

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-..they can insure them and

-I know it's at a very early stage...

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-..but that's something

-they can look at.

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-Following today's announcement...

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-..what are the views of the unions

-about the Government's plans?

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-They have listened

-to what we asked them to do.

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-That's something we welcome.

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-One of the main points

-they changed...

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-..is stopping testing cattle

-every six months.

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-They haven't moved the threshold

-for inconclusive reactors.

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-They won't take more cattle -

-that was their original intention...

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-..or part of their consultation.

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-What changes will affect farmers?

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-They will now be splitting Wales

-into five regional areas.

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-Farmers in areas with

-very little TB, in North Wales...

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-..must test animals

-after moving them in to the area.

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-That will incur extra costs

-for them...

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-..and they will be less inclined

-to buy those animals.

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-It's going to create two markets

-in Wales...

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-..and that'll be a concern not only

-for farmers buying animals in...

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-..but also for farmers in areas

-where TB is present.

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-Their prices are likely to fall

-and that will be a concern for them.

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-We welcome the fact they will look

-at badgers on the worst farms...

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-..the farms that have been affected

-for two years or more.

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-It's a small step but a step

-in the right direction for us.

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-They could have done more sooner but

-let's take it one step at a time.

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-What's your response to the areas

-that have been created...

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-..and the rules that come with them?

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-On Anglesey and in nearby areas,

-they don't have a problem.

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-They've tightened the rules

-in those areas.

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-We welcome that.

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-It's difficult. I live in an area

-where I milk cattle.

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-I don't sell them

-so it's had little effect.

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-Where there are store cattle...

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-..the prices of those animals

-could be affected.

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-That's the problem.

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-I don't welcome that aspect

-but there is a way to make it work.

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-We can't continue with high-affected

-and low-affected areas...

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-..in the long term.

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-I hope they can implement this plan

-fairly quickly...

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-..to eradicate it quickly.

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-That's what I'd like. We don't want

-these regulations forever.

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-Christianne Glossop,

-Wales' chief veterinary officer...

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-..played a key part

-in the consultation.

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-With regards to our chronic

-TB breakdowns...

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-..those that have been on the go

-for more than 18 months...

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-..and we have between

-50 and 60 of those...

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-..each of those

-will have an action plan...

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-..developed between the

-Animal and Plant Health Agency...

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-..Welsh Government

-and their own vets...

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-..and on the farms where we

-can demonstrate badger activity...

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-..we will cage trap badgers

-and test them for TB.

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-Where we find

-test-positive badgers...

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-..we will be humanely killing

-those badgers.

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-Why don't you follow

-the Republic of Ireland...

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-..who have done a badger cull

-on a wider scale...

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-..and reduced TB incidents by 40%?

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-That was in certain areas

-of the Republic of Ireland.

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-They are regrouping

-to consider their next steps.

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-We don't believe

-that's necessary in Wales.

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-Our badger survey has shown us

-where we have infected badgers.

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-The problem of TB

-and the connection with badgers...

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-..is most significant

-in our chronic herd breakdowns.

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-We want to adopt

-a different approach.

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-There are big concerns

-about badgers.

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-Are the steps they're taking

-with badgers going far enough?

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-Are they taking it seriously

-or are they merely symbolic steps?

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-Initially, only a handful of farms

-will receive this treatment...

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-..in terms of testing the badgers.

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-There is more work to do

-in recording the evidence...

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-..to allow us

-to take the next steps.

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-We regularly feature farms

-adopting milking systems...

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-..similar to ones in New Zealand

-but what about their sheep systems?

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-Coed Coch Farm near Abergele

-is experimenting.

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-They've established a share farm

-with a large flock of Romneys.

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-Daloni has more on this story.

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-Last October,

-Coed Coch Farms Ltd was established.

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-It's a share farming partnership

-between three farmers...

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-..Rhys Williams, Harry

-Fetherstonhaugh and Emyr Jones.

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-Harry owns the land - 900 acres.

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-He has 50% of the company's shares.

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-Emyr is the shepherd

-and he has 5% of the shares.

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-Administrator Rhys owns

-the remainder of the shares, 45%.

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-The enterprise was his idea.

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-I had a relatively small business

-at home on the Llyn Peninsula.

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-I was looking for a way

-to expand the sheep business.

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-One of the possibilities

-I researched was share farms.

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-Why Romney sheep?

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-We're very aware of the challenges

-facing the industry.

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-New Zealand faced

-the same situation in the 1980s.

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-The subsidies disappeared

-practically overnight.

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-They developed a breed

-which was sustainable.

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-Rhys is also the Head of Farming

-at Coleg Glynllifon.

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-He's eager to encourage and invest

-in the future of young farmers.

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-If you can get farmers

-to buy into the system...

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-..they will be more enthusiastic

-and businesses will succeed better.

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-Having young blood also helps.

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-Our aim is not only to grow a

-business but to help young farmers.

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-Initially, we've brought Emyr in.

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-As the company grows and develops...

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-..Emyr will have the opportunity

-to increase his share in the farm.

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-How's it going so far, Emyr?

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-How's it going so far, Emyr?

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-It's going well.

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-We've faced a few challenges

-in the first few months...

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-..but things are starting

-to settle down now.

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-We've had a very good season.

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-I hope they'll hit the targets.

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-What kind of sheep is the Romney?

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-It's a different sheep to the ones

-I'm used to handling.

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-It's not dissimilar

-to a Welsh sheep.

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-It's larger and looks after itself.

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-And eats less.

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-I don't know about eating less...

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-..but it makes better use

-of what's in front of it.

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-It eats everything

-that's on its plate.

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-Yes, I'd like to think so,

-and turn that into milk.

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-The system as it is now

-is very tight.

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-Lambing in early April

-and weaning by August 1.

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-It's hoped that the lambs

-will reach 40kgs...

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-..before heading to the abattoir

-with about 20kgs used as meat.

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-Everything heading to market has

-to be sold by the end of September.

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-That is when

-the farm's financial year ends.

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-We're trying to control costs...

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-..and concentrates

-is one of the main costs.

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-We have a tight budget

-for concentrates this year.

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-We budgeted 2 per sheep and

-only spent 1.80 on concentrates.

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-How has the lambing season been?

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-The weather for lambing season

-couldn't have been better.

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-The weather was fantastic...

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-..but it will be difficult for us to

-show a profit to reinvest this year.

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-Our scanning wasn't as good as

-we wanted, it was under our target.

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-From 2,300 sheep,

-how many lambs did you have?

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-We were fortunate enough

-to sell 2,800.

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-That's quite low.

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-We'd budgeted to sell 125%.

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-We scanned at 141%...

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-..and from the research work I did

-with the New Zealand systems...

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-..you should expect a fall between

-scanning and selling of 30%.

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-We've docked the sheep's tails

-recently to get the tailing count.

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-We're down about 24%.

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-The company received

-a 3,000 Farming Connect grant...

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-..to help draw up the contract

-between the partners.

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-They also organised for

-Murray Rohloff from New Zealand...

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-..to visit Coed Coch

-to offer advice to the farmers.

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-When we went through

-our big economic revolution...

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-..in New Zealand, where 40% of

-our government money disappeared...

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-..and then we realised that we had

-to have money in the bank to use...

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-..it's not just looking

-at overall wealth accumulation.

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-We had to be generating cash

-because no-one owed us a living.

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-It all came back down to profit.

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-Some wise guy said

-income is vanity, profit is sanity.

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-I still say

-that's the wisest thing I've heard.

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-With such

-an uncertain future ahead...

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-..will a system like this

-survive and pay its way?

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-The existing farm

-wasn't making any money.

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-It couldn't go on. I was looking

-for a vehicle to go forward.

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-I'm in my 60s

-and we need younger blood.

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-It's turned out to be

-an absolutely fantastic recipe.

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-It's great to see two young people

-involved in the business.

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-The system's working well

-and I'm absolutely thrilled with it.

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-With the sheep market

-as it is right now...

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-..it's difficult knowing how

-successful this enterprise will be.

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-They don't have any control

-over the price of lambs.

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-They have to accept

-what they're offered.

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-Dairy farmers receive a cheque

-once a month...

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-..but here,

-they receive payment annually.

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-However, they have tight controls.

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-Their costs are low

-and they do that without a subsidy.

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-Maybe this is the way forward.

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-Best of luck to them.

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-It's time for a break.

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-Later, Alun joins a young couple

-who make a living from goat meat.

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-We'll see you in two minutes.

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-Goat meat is very popular

-across the world.

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-Having said that, only a small

-proportion is eaten in Wales.

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-A Pembrokeshire family has realised

-there is a profitable market for it.

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-As a result, they've decided

-to expand their business.

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-Alun went to meet them.

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-Back in November 2015, Megan and

-Damian McNamara bought two goats...

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-..to keep as pets.

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-They now have 200 goats.

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-Former nurse Megan

-has left her profession...

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-..to concentrate

-on rearing the goats.

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-This is their first year

-selling the meat...

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-..and business

-is exceptionally good.

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-It's been so good, they've struggled

-to cope with the demand.

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-They keep Boer goats at

-Moat Village Farm near Maenclochog.

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-They are the best

-for producing high quality meat.

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-Megan, it's your mother's farm...

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-..but why did you decide

-to keep goats on the farm?

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-I've wanted goats here since I was

-so high but Mam doesn't like them.

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-She kept saying, "No, I don't

-want them on the farm"...

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-..so it's been almost a rebellion

-to get them here.

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-When we bought the first two...

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-..Damian said the plan was for him

-to go in a see Jude, Mam...

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-..and say he was buying the first

-two for me as Christmas gifts.

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-She agreed. That's when

-Myrtle and Olive came here.

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-Mam helps out a lot,

-there's a lot of support here...

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-..but it's our business.

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-What challenges do you face?

-Is it the same as keeping sheep?

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-Worms is the greatest problem.

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-When they graze out here,

-we have to do rotational grazing.

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-I regularly do faecal egg counts.

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-Listeria is also a problem.

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-To try and overcome that,

-we do all the haylage here.

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-We triple rap it and add additives

-and we trap moles...

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-..just to try and get it top notch.

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-I didn't realise

-they were such sensitive animals.

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-They are very sensitive.

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-How do you keep them?

-They're grazing right now.

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-Are they mostly out in the fields

-or do you have to keep them indoors?

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-We have to keep them in.

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-They don't like rain

-so they need 24/7 shelter.

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-That's difficult

-with this number of goats.

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-We do keep them in

-during the winter.

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-They just came back out last week.

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-With sheep,

-the males are sent to be eaten...

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-..whilst growing the numbers

-of ewes.

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-At the moment, all the females

-are kept here to build the flock.

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-The males are sent away for meat.

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-We regularly weigh them

-and then send the males.

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-How old are they when they go away?

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-It depends. We send them away

-when they're 40kgs.

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-That's from five months

-but before twelve months.

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-Interesting, Megan.

-What happens here?

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-These are the meat boys.

-These are all up to weight.

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-They're all 40kgs.

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-This side,

-these are slightly younger.

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-They're about 25-30kgs, maybe more.

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-40kgs is the target.

-How much meat is produced?

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-About 48%. The carcass is 18-20kgs.

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-What is the value of a kilo for you?

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-About 9 a kilo, just chopped up,

-all the carcass.

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-It costs more to buy cutlets

-or a joint...

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-..up to about 20 a kilo.

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-One goat is quite valuable

-when you sell it from home.

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-We can get up to 200 per goat,

-each and every goat.

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-I'll have to move the bag - they're

-about to mug me for the cake!

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-There we go, thank you, lads!

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-Give me some room

-to feed the goats next door.

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-They need it more than you.

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-You've grown enough.

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-So, the next question is

-what about the billy goats?

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-How many do you keep

-for the 70 nanny goats?

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-We have four billy goats

-for the 100 nanny goats.

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-Those are the companions.

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-These are the animals

-we invest the most in...

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-..to get the genetics.

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-Where do you get that genetic? Is

-it easy finding something different?

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-There can't be many

-throughout Britain.

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-It's quite difficult. Basil

-came from Australia as an embryo.

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-Here's Prince. He came from Suffolk.

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-I think Prince is a first

-generation embryo from Australia.

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-For us, here, we choose a billy goat

-with a short backside and body.

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-That's what sells well for us.

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-Here's Prince.

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-When you buy an animal like Prince

-how much money do you need?

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-About 600.

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-Doing everything as locally

-as possible is important to Megan.

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-The abattoir is Maddocks in Maesteg.

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-Cig Lodor in Rosebush

-cuts the carcass.

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-The meat is sold directly

-from the farm.

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-While the meat cooks on the barbie,

-I'll have a quick word with you...

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-..as the partner in crime

-in this development.

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-You're foodies as much as anything.

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-Food is very important to you,

-I can sense that.

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-Yes, I was brought up on a farm

-and I always want fresh meat.

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-It's something we decided,

-that's where we want to go.

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-Megan, you used to work as a nurse.

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-This is more than just a trade.

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-This is my life now.

-It all comes from the heart.

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-You've seen the goats,

-they're full of mischief.

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-The only thing left to do for me,

-who's never eaten goat meat...

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-..is to see what it tastes like.

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-Chef, are you serving?

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-Just about ready.

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-Wow. Let's taste it.

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-Cheers, folks.

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-It doesn't smell

-anything like I thought it would.

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-We have an idea about the smell of

-goat meat and it's nothing like it.

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-You told me before

-that it was sweet.

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-It's very similar to a mountain ewe.

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-That's my favourite meat.

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-There's something

-very healthy about it. Lovely.

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-Congratulations.

-You've found something unique.

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-The market is sure to grow

-in the future.

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-I hope so. Thank you.

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-That's it for this week,

-from Cardiff Bay.

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-Thanks for your company. Cheerio.

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Bydd Alun yn gweld sut mae un teulu wedi mynd ati i gynhyrchu cig gafr yn Sir Benfro. Alun hears how one family in Pembrokeshire has started producing goat meat.


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