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Bydd Meinir ac Alun yn Sioe Pontargothi ac yn holi beth yw gwerth y sioeau bach i ffermwyr. Meinir and Alun visit Pontargothi Show and ask whether local shows are important to f...


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-The shows have started.

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-This show has been held in

-Pontargothi for almost 100 years.

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-New legislation from the Welsh

-Government has been introduced.

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-Will it sound the death knell

-for some local shows?

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-Meinir is also at the show asking

-how the new quarantine rules...

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-..will affect small shows.

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-A century after the death of

-Hedd Wyn, Daloni visits Yr Ysgwrn...

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-..where agriculture

-is alive in a museum.

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-First, I'm here to ask why people

-still attend small shows.

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-This show started way back in 1898

-and it's still going strong today...

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-..with high numbers of horses,

-cattle and sheep for the visitors.

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-What is the value of a show

-like this for farmers these days?

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-In terms of the business,

-it's very important as an advert...

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-..for selling stock

-and the countryside.

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-It's a platform for youngsters to

-compete in different competitions...

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-..such as cooking and showing sheep.

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-That's very important.

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-We meet local characters...

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-..and yeah, meeting people.

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-This is the foundation

-of the industry.

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-Youngsters are showing their stock.

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-Without shows like this,

-there's no starting point.

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-Dairy farmer Iwan Morgan, Nantybwla,

-has competed here for years.

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-Last year you were a winner

-at the Royal Welsh.

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-How is that different

-to competing here?

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-Preparation is the same,

-hard work...

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-..you need the best standard

-wherever you're competing.

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-Do you see youngsters

-with the enthusiasm to compete?

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-I see more and more.

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-It's hard work

-but it's a lot of fun.

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-They enjoy being part of a society.

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-They enjoy meeting up

-and getting to know each other.

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-You're very close to Carmarthen.

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-Does the way you compete

-include people from the town?

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-I think it's important that you

-take time to talk to people.

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-It's important that we make

-a good impression on the public.

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-We want people to buy our produce.

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-It's important to take our produce

-to the people.

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-Catrin Reed's a part-time farmer.

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-What's the attraction

-of the shows for her?

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-We've attended shows

-for many years.

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-At the small shows, we build up

-experience and confidence...

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-..to compete in the larger shows.

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-If we don't support these shows,

-the community misses out.

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-We're trying our best

-to support these shows...

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-..throughout the year.

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-If something prevented a show

-like this happening...

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-..you'd be quite sad about it.

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-It would be a loss. We're also here

-to try and sell our stock.

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-I had a foal. Hopefully,

-someone saw the foal today.

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-At the end of the year,

-they might want to buy it.

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-It's a way to sell too,

-in addition to a fun day out.

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-Chairperson Meinir Davies

-is coordinating the day's events.

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-Who are the people in attendance

-and where do they come from?

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-It's a mixture from near and far,

-from all backgrounds.

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-People who live in towns

-want something different.

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-They go to work day to day.

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-For people in rural Wales, this is

-our chance to show what we can do.

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-What are farmers telling you

-about the value of them?

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-Has that changed over the years?

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-Originally, it was an opportunity

-to socialise...

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-..but it's more important now

-as a showing event...

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-..especially with the pressure to

-compete with Brexit on the horizon.

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-It changes all the time.

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-How does the future look for you?

-You sound confident.

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-Yes, we have a strong committee.

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-It helps that we own the land

-and we can do as we wish.

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-That gives us some certainty

-for the future.

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-Today in the show,

-there's a feast of competition.

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-As a result of new legislation,

-there are concerns...

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-..that this sight could disappear.

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-They want to close down small shows.

-It's diabolical.

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-They also want the money.

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-I completely oppose the idea.

-It doesn't make any sense.

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-It's another way to get money

-from farmers.

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-Cabinet Secretary for the

-Environment and Rural Affairs...

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-..Lesley Griffiths,

-announced that quarantine units...

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-..will come into force in Wales

-on June 12.

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-Quarantine units will ensure that

-cattle, sheep and goat farmers...

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-..can decide between

-approved quarantine units...

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-..to control livestock movement...

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-..or continue to use the six-day

-movement restriction on their herd.

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-Right now, if you want to attend

-more than one show in a week...

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-..you can have a separate field

-or shed.

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-Under the new system, farmers must

-register for a quarantine unit...

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-..and pay almost 173.

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-On the eve of the show season...

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-..is now the correct time

-to introduce new legislation?

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-As one of the officials,

-how will the quarantine units...

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-..affect small shows?

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-It is rather concerning

-for small shows.

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-We've had a lot of exhibitors

-telling us today on their way in...

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-..that they're really worried

-about it.

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-There are related costs

-and new regulations.

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-Some believe the regulations

-we already have are sufficient.

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-It gives farmers

-another layer of regulations.

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-If farmers are concerned

-about attending shows...

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-..we'll worry about our exhibitors.

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-Gwynne Davies from Tregaron

-is unhappy with the new regulations.

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-To show his dissatisfaction...

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-..he's presented a petition

-to the Welsh Government.

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-The industry has called

-for an end to the six-day rule.

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-It's ended on the main holding

-but you now need a quarantine unit.

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-I don't think anyone realises

-the problems that will arise.

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-If you want a quarantine unit,

-it'll be a major headache.

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-You have to wear

-different clothes inside it.

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-You can't use the same food.

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-If you're driving a tractor, it has

-to be washed when it comes out.

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-The problem

-we have in small shows...

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-..the isolation units we had worked.

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-They're adding

-the quarantine unit...

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-..to the small shows.

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-The system we had,

-the isolation unit, worked.

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-Everyone knew how it worked

-and I wish someone would ask...

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-.."Has there been a problem

-with isolation units?"

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-Geraint Jones, Brynyrwyn,

-Ystrad Meurig...

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-..has already registered

-for a quarantine unit.

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-I was one of the first to register.

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-I did it before receiving

-the letter.

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-Everything was due to change

-on the 10th...

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-..and I'd paid entry fees

-to Malvern four days later.

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-We also had a show

-the following week.

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-I had to do it

-otherwise I'd lose a lot of money.

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-I wanted to attend the shows

-and sell.

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-What surprised me,

-when the official came out...

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-..this was one of his first farms.

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-He didn't know the rules properly.

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-He asked me for the CPH number

-of the quarantine unit.

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-I'd ask them for an inspection

-so that I could have one.

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-They started off on the wrong foot.

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-For farmers who don't exhibit...

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-..they need quarantine units

-to move animals from day to day.

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-It could be beneficial but it's one

-more thing to catch a farmer out.

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-You move them in, move them out.

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-If you don't do it correctly,

-there goes your Single Farm Payment.

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-All they want to do is finish it.

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-They should be speaking to people

-at the shows...

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-..to see what works best.

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-I don't mind there being regulations

-but it must work for everyone.

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-Christianne Glossop is responsible

-for drawing up the new legislation.

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-This is the alternative

-to the six-day standstill.

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-I've talked to a lot of farmers

-about this.

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-They are saying they're content

-to stay with the six-day standstill.

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-They can plan their movements

-to hold the farm in lockdown...

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-..for six days

-before they move animals off.

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-Farmers are saying that's possible

-for most of the year...

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-..but as they come to the autumn and

-there's movement of ewes and rams...

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-..that's when the six-day standstill

-becomes difficult.

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-For them, the option of a

-quarantine unit comes into its own.

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-The majority of people I spoke to...

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-..are worried about the future

-of local shows.

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-..and the youngsters

-who attend these shows.

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-What's your response to this?

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-The way people taking animals

-to shows have managed up to now...

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-..is they've had a show isolation.

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-The industry asked us if we

-would agree to a show isolation...

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-..and a quarantine unit

-and a six-day standstill...

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-..and it was becoming complicated.

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-This has given us an opportunity

-to wipe the slate clean...

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-..start with a blank sheet

-and say you can work...

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-..with a six-day standstill or the

-quarantine unit or a combination.

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-If they're not able to go

-to the expense and effort...

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-..of introducing

-a quarantine unit...

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-..it won't stop them visiting shows

-but it will reduce the number.

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-What was complicated

-about the show isolation unit?

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-It allowed the freedom

-to go to any shows you wanted...

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-..any day of the week.

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-Those arrangements were in place

-before the Working Smarter review.

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-The industry asked us

-to change the arrangements.

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-I'm really disappointed...

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-..that we now seem

-to be having a reaction...

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-..to something that took five years.

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-Over the past five years, we've been

-criticised for dragging our heels.

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-Now we're being asked to delay this

-until the end of the show season...

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-..or to change the arrangements...

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-..when we've worked with

-the industry as much as possible.

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-According to what the chief

-veterinary officer has said...

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-..has the industry misinterpreted

-the needs of cattle owners?

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-In a statement, NFU Cymru said...

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-"Given the short time scale

-and lack of detailed information...

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-"..on the requirements of quarantine

-units in the public domain...

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-"..NFU Cymru requested a transition

-period for quarantine units...

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-"..and approved isolation facilities

-allowing both to run in parallel.

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-"We are yet to be convinced

-that the current rules...

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-"..fit our core principles

-and as such we are committed...

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-"..to feeding back the concerns

-of our members over issues...

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-"..with the implementation

-of quarantine units."

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-According to a spokesperson

-from the FUW...

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-"The existence of the quarantine

-units isn't the problem...

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-"..but the nature

-of the regulations...

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-"..and the timing

-of their introduction is.

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-"In the absence of changes to

-the six-day movement restriction...

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-"..the FUW has argued for the

-introduction of quarantine units...

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-"..with fair regulations which

-allow trade during busy times...

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-"..and for this to be done

-within a fair timeframe."

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-"We have also argued in favour

-of the isolation units...

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-"..which already exist for shows."

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-How do people feel

-back in Pontargothi?

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-The Government

-wants to end small shows.

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-I'll give you an example

-with the Royal Welsh Show.

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-We're showing at the Cardigan Show

-the following Wednesday.

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-If you don't have quarantine,

-you can't attend the show.

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-We're not going to do it.

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-I've spoken to a lot of people,

-they're not going to do it.

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-We already have regulations

-in place.

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-It's worked since the outbreak

-of Foot and Mouth.

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-The vet has passed our quarantine

-unit, it's called a show unit now.

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-They can just change the wording

-and call it a quarantine unit.

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-We have to pay for the pleasure

-to keep the countryside alive now.

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-Farmers attending shows

-want to exhibit their sheep.

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-They don't want barriers. They just

-want something to make life easier.

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-This standstill needs to be stopped,

-don't make things more complicated.

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-As it is now,

-it's not helping us at all.

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-That's it for Part 1.

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-After the break, we visit Hedd Wyn's

-former home after its renovation.

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-See you in two minutes.

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-Let's be honest. As farmers,

-we face an uncertain future.

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-Who knows what will happen

-after Brexit.

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-We face losing a market, losing

-subsidies and total uncertainty.

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-Is there another way

-to make money from farming...

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-..mankind's oldest skill?

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-Is it possible to turn agriculture

-into a museum?

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-What they have at Yr Ysgwrn

-in Trawsfynydd is unique.

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-The land that surrounds me

-is steeped in history...

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-..but it is also a working farm.

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-Yr Ysgwrn was home

-to Ellis Humphrey Evans.

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-His bardic name was Hedd Wyn.

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-As a young 30-year-old farmer...

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-..he won the Black Chair at the

-1917 Birkenhead National Eisteddfod.

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-He never had the chance

-to sit in it.

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-He died on the battlefield

-during the First World War...

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-..almost a century ago.

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-Ellis Humphrey Evans

-was the eldest of 11 children.

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-He moved here, to Yr Ysgwrn,

-when he was a few weeks old.

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-His parents managed

-to make a living from farming.

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-Gerald Williams,

-Hedd Wyn's nephew...

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-..has farmed Yr Ysgwrn

-for many years...

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-..as well as welcoming thousands

-of visitors to the family home.

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-I had to live on the farm,

-but I was spending more time...

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-..talking to the visitors.

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-I'd done it all my life,

-it was nothing new for me.

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-Has farming changed

-for better or for worse?

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-That's a good question.

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-Around here, you didn't farm

-to produce your own food.

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-You farmed to make a living.

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-The house, and 170 acres of land...

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-..were bought

-by the Snowdonia National Park.

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-The venture was funded by the

-National Heritage Memorial Fund...

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-..and the Welsh Government.

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-By now, 3.4m has been spent here...

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-..to develop a museum

-and educational facilities...

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-..as well as the farm.

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-It would have been nice

-seeing it spent on agriculture...

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-..but only a small proportion

-was spent on the farming side.

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-We invested just under 400,000...

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-..on the agricultural

-and rural management.

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-..over the past few years.

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-Again, they say we didn't

-get much for our money...

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-..but we have to remember

-the heritage of the farm...

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-..and the historic implications.

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-There's landscaping work

-and cladding the buildings...

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-..to bring them up to standard.

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-At the end of the day,

-the museum status comes first...

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-..and the heritage and culture

-associated with Yr Ysgwrn.

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-In those terms, the agricultural

-side has to take a step back.

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-Where has the 400,000 been spent?

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-New equipment, a new shed...

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-..and a new compound.

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-Work in the woodlands and a lot

-of work on the natural landscape.

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-We're in a position

-to better control the holding now.

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-Meilir and Catrin Jarrett

-are the farm's tenants.

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-They live in Trawsfynydd and have

-farmed here for almost five years.

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-Both work full-time. Meilir is

-a farm-hand and Catrin is a teacher.

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-How did you become tenants

-of Yr Ysgwrn?

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-We saw an advert

-in the local paper.

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-The National Park was looking

-for a tenant for a 10-year period.

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-It was a great opportunity

-to get into the agricultural world.

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-Opportunities like this

-don't arise often.

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-No. If you're a young couple,

-you go for it.

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-What kind of farming do you do here?

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-Traditional farming,

-much like the work done by Gerald.

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-It's a hill farm.

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-There have been changes recently.

-Have they been for the better?

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-For better and worse.

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-A lot of money has been invested.

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-It's interesting to see

-how it's changed here.

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-What are the major changes?

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-This compound is new. That's

-the greatest change on the farm.

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-We work full time.

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-We need a shed that simple's and

-requires the least amount of labour.

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-What's special about it?

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-Some parts of the floor

-have made life easier.

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-There's no need to scrape

-under the cattle during the winter.

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-It saves us

-having to pay for hay.

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-In terms of the payments

-you receive...

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-..does the Single Farm payment

-come to you or the National Park?

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-The subsidies come to us.

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-That's well worth having.

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-It's crucial for a farm like this.

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-What are your aims during this time?

0:21:040:21:07

-We'd like to extend the tenancy,

-if that's possible...

0:21:080:21:13

-..and make as much money as we can.

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-Without it, life would be difficult.

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-That's the aim of every farmer,

-to make a living.

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-Farming is difficult enough

-as it is.

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-Does the fact that more visitors

-will flock to Yr Ysgwrn...

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-..make it more difficult

-to farm here?

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-It's been a learning process

-for all of us, Meilir and ourselves.

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-The holding has changed a lot

-since we took it over from Gerald.

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-Stock patterns have changed

-quite considerably.

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-That affected our expectations

-as an authority...

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-..and our hopes for the holding.

0:21:570:21:59

-What is Yr Ysgwrn now?

-A museum or a farm?

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-It's a lot of things.

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-That's what makes it interesting

-and a challenge.

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-It's a museum for some, it's

-a tourist attraction for others.

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-It's a very special place...

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-..in terms of its

-cultural history and heritage.

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-For Meilir and myself,

-it's a working farm.

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-It's difficult to put it

-into one box.

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-It was the authority's decision to

-make it a destination for tourists.

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-At the end of the day,

-it must be self-sufficient.

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-It also wanted it

-to be a working farm.

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-We hope that modern techniques and

-traditional patterns can continue.

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-On the one hand, the history

-of Yr Ysgwrn must be preserved.

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-On the other hand, Catrin and Meilir

-need to make a living.

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-It's time to find a resolution

-which satisfies both sides.

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-That might be the story

-for farms across Wales.

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-Farmers will have to consider

-what works and what doesn't work...

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-..to ensure a stronger future.

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-That's all for this week.

-We're back the same time next week.

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-Goodbye.

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Bydd Meinir ac Alun yn Sioe Pontargothi ac yn holi beth yw gwerth y sioeau bach i ffermwyr. Meinir and Alun visit Pontargothi Show and ask whether local shows are important to farmers.


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