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-Michael Gove on his soapbox

-in the Oxford Farming Conference.

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-Aled Jones was there

-to hear Welsh responses.

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-When he started talking, he talked

-about food and that's important.

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-We often hear that

-the environment is the top priority.

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-Gareth Wyn Jones and George Monbiot

-go head to head.

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-We'll never agree but it's important

-for the two sides to show respect.

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-An old skill attracts competitors

-in the name of charity.

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-A large crowd's turned out

-after hearing that you're the judge!

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-2018 is likely to be

-a crucial year...

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-..for the future of agriculture

-in Wales as we face many challenges.

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-There are concerns

-about losing our lamb market...

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-..and the introduction

-of export tariffs.

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-One thing is certain,

-major changes are afoot.

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-In the Oxford Farming Conference,

-one thing became apparent.

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-The Basic Payment

-would continue beyond 2019.

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-Former Assistant Chief Executive

-of the RWAS Aled Jones...

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-..was there on our behalf.

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-Aled is familiar

-with the conference.

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-He's attended it as winner

-of an RWAS scholarship...

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-..and also as a speaker

-in the conference's annual debate.

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-What's ahead of him this year...

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-..with only a year to go

-until we leave the European Union?

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-The beginning of a new year...

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-..is the ideal opportunity

-to look to the future.

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-That's why I'm in Oxford

-for the annual farming conference.

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-There's a lot to discuss

-over the next two days.

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-I'm looking forward

-to hearing the speakers...

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-..discussing the future

-of our industry.

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-The opening session of

-the conference is the political one.

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-Michael Gove, Defra's Secretary

-of State, is first on stage.

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-We guaranteed the amount

-we allocate to farming support...

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-..will be protected throughout

-and beyond this period to 2022.

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-The money pot for farmers

-stays at the same level...

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-..3bn a year in the short term...

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-..but what will happen

-to the devolved nations?

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-You set out an ambitious vision

-for a British agricultural policy.

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-How much of that will filter down

-to the devolved administrations?

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-Is your thinking aligned

-along those visions?

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-I have found that Lesley Griffiths,

-on behalf of the Welsh Government...

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-..to be a thoughtful and progressive

-colleague with whom to work.

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-Obviously, one thing

-with Scotland and Wales...

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-..is that it's in the nature

-of the physical environment...

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-..of the landscape that different

-types of farming predominate.

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-Different types of support

-may be required.

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-We can make sure

-that devolved administrations...

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-..develop their own policy.

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-People recognise

-that we want to encourage...

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-..more productive agriculture,

-more sustainable agriculture...

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-..and also make sure

-we're thinking environmentally.

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-That's a theme we all echo.

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-Michael Gove has set out his agenda

-with many challenges.

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-He also offers stability

-in the short term.

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-I recognise the heart

-of almost all farming businesses...

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-..is food production.

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-A core element of Defra's mission

-is supporting farmers...

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-..in the provision of competitively

-priced, healthy, sustainable...

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-..and nutritious food

-and pursuing greater market access.

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-One of the major points

-Gove emphasised...

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-..was the creation

-of a new food policy...

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-..to represent the food chain

-in its entirety.

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-He wants standards maintained

-and better access to markets...

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-..and more value for our produce.

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-He also emphasised

-that Defra is confident...

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-..of creating partnerships in Europe

-to sell our produce.

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-That's their aim

-and they're confident of doing so.

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-Time will tell.

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-When he started talking, he talked

-about food and that's important.

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-We often hear that

-the environment is the top priority.

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-Today he talked about food.

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-My job is to produce food.

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-The environment is important

-to us all because we live in it...

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-..but food production

-is more important to most farmers.

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-Paying landowners for the amount

-of agricultural land they have...

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-..is unjust and inefficient.

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-Gove was certain

-that CAP was defective.

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-After the handover period...

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-..a new policy of farming subsidies

-will be introduced.

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-What does it emphasise?

-The environment, mostly.

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-That's one of the aims and the

-main focus of our subsidy system.

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-Upland farmers in Wales or Cumbria,

-crofters in Scotland...

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-..or small livestock farmers

-in Northern Ireland.

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-We need support

-for those who keep rural life vital.

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-He acknowledged the value

-of upland farming.

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-The businesses might be small

-and barely profitable...

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-..but the contribution they make

-to communities, rural life...

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-..and the environment and landscape

-is important to safeguard...

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-..and it requires subsidies.

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-I welcomed the idea

-of helping upland farms...

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-..rural communities

-and the environment.

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-I would have liked

-if he'd added more detail...

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-..about how the devolved nations...

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-..can have their voices heard

-when new policies are made.

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-Finally,

-Gove emphasised the importance...

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-..of defending and improving

-our natural resources.

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-It will be a central part

-of policies from now on.

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-Michael Gove outlining

-his aims there...

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-..but, as has been

-mentioned already...

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-..agriculture has been devolved

-to Cardiff.

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-What does Lesley Griffiths,

-the Cabinet Secretary...

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-..for Energy, Planning and Rural

-Affairs, have to say about this?

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-We have been very firm in our belief

-that the UK Government...

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-..needed to commit to fair funding

-for our farmers post-Brexit.

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-It was welcome to hear 2024,

-I'd only previously heard 2022.

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-The most important thing is that we

-have that assurance about funding.

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-We said we could not

-lose a penny post-Brexit...

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-..and we'll hold

-the UK Government to account.

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-Does this announcement provide

-farmers with more stability?

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-One of the partners of Cara,

-who offer agricultural advice...

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-..is Wendy Jenkins.

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-It's important that farmers

-start looking to the future.

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-This is the time to do so.

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-They have six years of security

-in financial terms.

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-Businesses should look at the

-opportunities on their farms.

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-Look at farms as businesses

-and not a way of life.

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-They should research

-additional income streams...

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-..adapt accordingly

-to new policies...

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-..not rely on payments and get

-the farm working to its potential.

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-What is Lesley Griffiths' vision

-for future policies?

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-We will have our own

-Welsh agricultural policy.

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-I've made it clear, agriculture has

-been devolved to Wales for 20 years.

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-Any policies we have should be right

-for Wales, right for our farmers.

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-I've always said I cannot envisage

-a time farmers won't need support.

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-Michael Gove talked about public

-money for public goods and services.

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-That's the line we've looked at.

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-It's important we have high-quality

-food which Wales is renowned for.

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-It's equally important we have

-high environmental standards.

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-The direction is clear.

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-Some weeks ago,

-a new network was launched...

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-..to bring farming

-and nature bodies together...

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-..to discuss the way forward.

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-Farmer Geraint Davies, Fedw Arian,

-Bala, is part of the network.

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-It's important to have a network

-such as the one we've formed...

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-..to inspire debate

-about the importance...

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-..of caring for the environment

-the way farmers currently do.

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-Bodies such as RSPB,

-Wildlife Trust, Woodland Trust...

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-..have been on the other side

-of the table traditionally...

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-..where agriculture is involved.

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-Creating partnerships is crucial if

-we want to take agriculture forward.

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-We want to create

-a successful future for it.

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-One man who's watching

-the Brexit negotiations carefully...

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-..is the IBERS lecturer

-in Aberystwyth, Penri James.

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-Farmers won't receive money

-because they farm...

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-..or because they hold

-a certain amount of land.

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-They'll receive money

-for doing something.

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-That's similar to some

-of the Pillar 2 strands we've seen.

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-If a farmer undertakes a project...

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-..or fences a portion of land

-near a river...

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-..they receive

-a certain amount of money.

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-That's compensation money,

-not money for public welfare.

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-This is an example

-of what's happening...

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-..but the way the payment

-is allocated will be very different.

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-The way we use our animals on this

-farm to control the landscape...

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-..the meat we sell

-is merely a bi-product of that.

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-The taxpayer should be proud

-of buying our produce.

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-We look after the environment

-and produce food at the same time.

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-Plenty to discuss in the future

-and change is inevitable.

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-Let's take a break.

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-Join us later

-as we re-visit Oxford...

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-..and we attend

-a hedgelaying competition.

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-See you in two minutes' time.

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-Brexit claimed a high proportion

-of the debate in Oxford...

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-..but many other points

-were also raised.

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-It's a conference that's certainly

-looking to the future.

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-Let's return to Aled Jones.

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-In the next part

-of the conference...

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-..we heard about the challenges

-some farmers have faced.

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-They've had to change to survive.

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-..some pretty amazing people.

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-Doctors, surgeons,

-therapists, family, friends...

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-..that have helped me

-rebuild my life.

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-Tim Papworth from Norfolk fell off

-a ladder in a potato shed in 2010.

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-Since then, he's raised awareness

-of health and safety.

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-"I can't have something dangerous.

-I'll fix it."

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-What I should have thought was...

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-.."Are you the right man

-to go up that ladder?"

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-Carla Borges explained in detail...

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-..what she's achieved with

-the family business in Brazil...

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-..from the position

-of a woman in agriculture.

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-We wanted to go one step further.

-I was watching YouTube...

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-Duncan McConchie

-spoke about diversifying.

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-He returned to the family farm

-after a media career.

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-He's established a tourist business

-on the farm's hilly land.

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-Every story had its own message...

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-..but what impression

-has the conference left...

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-..on Rhys Richards, this year's

-recipient of the RWAS Scholarship?

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-It's been a great opportunity

-to meet other people...

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-..who are linked to farming

-up and down the country.

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-We've listened

-to a variety of farmers.

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-Did you feel inspired

-listening to them?

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-Are you confident for the future?

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-Yes. I'm still nervous but let's see

-what comes out of the deal.

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-I'm a sheep farmer at home. I'm

-nervous about the deal with Europe.

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-When we get more information

-about that...

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-..I'll be more confident

-about planning my business.

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-Night has fallen in Oxford.

-I'm here in the historic Union.

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-I remember being here two years ago,

-nervous about the debate.

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-Tonight,

-it's Gareth Wyn Jones' turn.

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-I wonder how he'll get on.

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-The debate subject is

-this house believes eating meat...

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-..will become a thing of the past

-by 2100.

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-George Monbiot will debate

-in favour of the subject.

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-Gareth will oppose.

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-The Union chamber is packed

-as everyone prepares.

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-We can feed everyone in this country

-on 3m of our 18m hectares.

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-That majority of farmers

-that I know, and landowners...

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-..they want to leave that land

-in a better state...

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-..for the next generation.

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-What we've seen at the same time,

-which is what we've seen before...

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-..is that the technological shift...

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-..will be accompanied

-by an ethical shift.

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-I really believe

-they should respect our right...

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-..to produce it and eat it...

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-..because that is something

-I believe in.

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-With the speakers finished, the

-audience can express their views.

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-Who wins the debate?

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-As expected, the motion was refused

-and Gareth was victorious.

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-Congratulations.

-You won the debate. How do you feel?

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-Excellent.

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-Standing there, I never thought

-I'd do anything like this.

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-I feel it's something

-that needs to be debated.

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-The vegans are raising their voices

-and there are more of them.

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-You need to be respectful...

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-..and speak about the future

-for us as farmers.

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-We need to listen to their views.

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-Tonight,

-we had respect on both sides.

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-We've had fun and that's important.

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-I spoke from the heart.

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-I spoke about something

-I believe in.

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-I hope I've made sure that there's

-a future for the younger generation.

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-George Monbiot was a well-known

-adversary. Are you friends now?

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-I don't know. I gave him a heart

-from the Carneddau.

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-Hopefully George will accept this.

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-We'll never agree but it's important

-for both sides to show respect.

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-The first day is over

-and there's plenty to ponder.

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-This is the final day.

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-The conference embraces change this

-year by moving to a new location...

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-..the Sheldonian Theatre.

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-James Wong is the first speaker.

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-He wants to reduce waste and get

-the best nourishment from our food.

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-We waste a third

-of all food that's produced.

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-We have more than enough food.

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-I enjoyed James Wong's speech.

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-He impressed us with statistics

-about the future of food...

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-..and how the industry will feed

-the world's population...

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-..which will soon reach 10bn.

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-What struck me was the problem

-he emphasised about food waste.

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-Not waste in production

-or processing...

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-..but the waste that happens

-in our own homes.

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-That was the main problem.

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-Well, the conference is over.

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-One thing is certain.

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-As we leave the EU,

-the change process is inevitable.

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-The conference has enlightened us

-on government policies...

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-..and the handover period.

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-It's challenged us

-to think differently.

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-The message is clear -

-don't be scared of change...

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-..embrace the opportunities

-that come your way.

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-That's the important message

-to secure the future.

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-Let's return to Wales.

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-One tradition could provide the

-answer to Michael Gove's challenge.

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-Technology has helped farmers

-in their day-to-day lives...

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-..but some rural practices

-still rely...

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-..on a good eye and a skilful hand.

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-One of those is hedgelaying.

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-I'm in St Asaph

-to see the best at work.

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-This competition was first held

-in 2011...

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-..to raise money

-for a motor neurone charity...

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-..following the death of

-Maldwyn Owen, Nanerth, Pandy Tudur.

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-This is the seventh event.

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-Emrys Owen is one of the organisers.

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-Since we started this in 2011...

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-..a lot of people

-have restarted laying hedges.

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-They lay hedges for us too.

-Fair play to them.

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-They enjoy coming

-and raising money for a good cause.

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-In other professional competitions,

-they're paid to compete.

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-We don't do that.

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-If we paid them,

-we'd have no money left.

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-There are 30 competitors

-here today...

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-..in different categories

-depending on the standard...

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-..for youngsters, novices

-and an open category.

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-The aim is to lay the branches

-on top of each other...

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-..to a height of a metre

-above ground.

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-The trees will then grow back

-from the root, through each other...

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-..to create a boundary

-that stops livestock crossing...

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-..and provide shelter for birds

-and different creatures.

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-It's one of the best things you can

-do to promote biodiversity...

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-..and provide shelter.

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-Competitions last between

-9.00am and 3.00pm.

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-It all appears to be done at a

-leisurely pace but it's hard work.

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-It's all done under

-the eagle eye of the judge...

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-..Gwynfor Edwards from Towyn.

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-It's a great competition.

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-You have to take great care

-to choose the best.

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-Does hedgelaying provide people

-with a living?

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-Oh, yes. I think Tir Cymun

-was the original scheme.

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-Tir Gofal was then introduced.

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-Glastir provides people

-with a lot of work.

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-Without a doubt.

-There's a good crowd here today.

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-They're here

-because you're the judge!

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-A father and son competing here

-today are Aeryn and Rhys Jones.

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-It's my second time competing,

-we've wanted to do it for a while.

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-I didn't have

-enough confidence to do it.

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-I joined Dad down in Hafren,

-Llanidloes, a month ago.

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-I came third

-and I was over the moon.

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-It made me want to try it again.

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-Here today, tell me

-about the quality of the wood.

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-The hedge quality is good today.

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-It's been an excellent competition.

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-There are some good

-hedge layers here today.

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-We've seen some hard workers.

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-Everyone deals

-with whatever's in front of them.

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-Are you happy

-with what you've been given?

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-There's a nice turn in it.

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-There's a nice turn in it.

-

-That's a challenge.

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-Well, yes, but it's different.

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-It's an additional challenge.

-Are you working hard too?

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-One day maybe.

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-I've come from The Wirral. A group

-of us are countryside volunteers.

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-We go out once a week.

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-Before starting,

-do you have a plan in mind?

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-Do you wait and see what happens

-to the next hedge along?

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-You have to. Your work

-is laid over your neighbour's.

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-I had to use the chainsaw

-on the tree.

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-There are a lot of branches too.

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-You've been given a difficult

-section, it's very thick.

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-Oh, bloody hell, yeah. It's OK.

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-I've been joined by Derrick Jones...

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-..who owns the land

-where the competition is being held.

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-How important is it for you to be

-able to offer this opportunity?

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-It's very important for me

-to have this opportunity.

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-When the lads asked me if I was

-willing to host the competition...

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-..I was very happy.

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-As a farmer,

-how valuable is this for you?

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-It's very important for me.

-I appreciate hedges.

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-It's as good as the contents

-of a sheep's belly.

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-Shelter is often more valuable

-than what's in her belly.

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-I'd like to take this opportunity...

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-After a day of competition,

-here are the results.

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-First in the novice category,

-Andy Brown from Shocklach.

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-Huw Hulme from Oakenholt

-won the intermediate category.

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-Winner of the open category

-and the best local hedgelayer...

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-..Dei Pandy Williams.

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-Here's an excellent example of a

-rural community working in unison...

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-..to raise money for a good cause

-whilst maintaining a skill...

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-..essential

-for effective conservation.

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-Old traditions

-with one eye on the future.

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-That's all for this week.

-Thanks for joining us.

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-See you next week.

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