Mon, 24 Oct 2016 Ffermio


Mon, 24 Oct 2016

Bydd Meinir yn ymweld a Wyn Jones yn ardal Rhandirmwyn ger Llanymddyfri, sy'n cyfuno ei waith ar y fferm a'i yrfa rygbi broffesiynol. Meinir visits Wyn Jones who combines farmin...


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-Hello and a warm welcome to Ffermio.

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-We're in the lovely area

-of Rhandirmwyn near Llandovery.

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-Later on the programme...

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-..I meet a young farmer

-who divides his time...

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-..between working in these fields

-and his career on the rugby pitch.

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-Coming up, Daloni will be visiting

-a brand-new egg venture...

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-..and we'll have the second question

-in our competition.

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-We begin this week's programme

-at the Senedd in Cardiff...

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-..and the latest developments

-regarding TB.

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-Since the postponement

-of the badger vaccination scheme...

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-..people have been keen to hear the

-Welsh Government's next strategy...

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-..to control and eradicate TB

-in cattle here in Wales.

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-Cabinet Secretary

-Lesley Griffiths...

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-..has announced

-a 12-week consultation...

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-..to look at plans that could allow

-the culling of infected badgers...

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-..in badly-affected areas,

-as has happened in Northern Ireland.

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-But one measure which will be

-introduced immediately...

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-..is the division of Wales

-into three zones.

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-One of the measures we are bringing

-forward in today's statement...

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-..is regionalization.

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-We know that TB

-is a very complex picture...

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-..but it's also not

-a uniform picture across Wales.

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-We have a low incidence area,

-we have two intermediate areas...

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-..and two high TB incidence areas.

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-In those high incidence areas,

-we have some farms...

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-..that have been under herd

-breakdown restrictions for years.

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-I don't think that's sustainable

-or acceptable.

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-We have to find

-a different way of dealing with it.

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-One of the plans

-is to have bespoke action plans...

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-..for those chronic herd breakdowns.

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-I would expect the farmer,

-their vet and the APHA...

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-..to work together to come up

-with that bespoke action plan.

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-When you looked at

-the most challenging areas...

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-..you referred to

-the Northern Irish Pilot Project.

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-Tell us why you decided

-to refer to that.

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-They cage-trapped badgers.

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-If they were negative,

-they vaccinated them.

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-If they were positive,

-they were humanely killed.

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-I've been looking very closely

-at the outcome of that.

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-It's important

-for badgers' health and welfare too.

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-We want to see

-a healthier badger population too.

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-I'm not going to pre-empt

-the bespoke action plans...

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-..but it's important

-to look at all options.

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-The consultation is also considering

-an Informed Purchasing Scheme...

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-..to help farmers make decisions...

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-..based on the health

-of the cattle they want to buy.

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-It also proposes reducing the TB

-compensation cap to 5,000.

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-Plenty of food for thought.

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-After the initial discussion

-in the Senedd a few weeks ago...

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-..how do the other parties feel

-about the consultation?

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-I hope everyone

-will react positively.

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-We finally have the opportunity

-to create...

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-..a national and regional plan

-that will eradicate this disease.

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-A plan that will get to grips with

-TB both in cattle and in wildlife...

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-..in a moderate way

-that is proportionate...

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-..to the problems we have

-in different areas.

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-Some of the plans stand out...

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-..such as relaxing regulations

-in some areas in North Wales.

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-Does that take us back

-to a time before testing...

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-..and does it increase the risk?

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-That area has been done, of course.

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-When it comes to something specific

-concerning TB...

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-..it is possible to treat areas such

-as north-west Wales as lower risk...

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-..compared to other areas.

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-It follows that the burden on

-farmers in those areas will be less.

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-Not everyone will agree

-but I think it's the way forward...

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-..to get the public and farmers

-on board.

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-The European Commission will also

-see we take the matter seriously.

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-I welcome some parts

-of the statement...

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-..that we heard from the

-Cabinet Secretary this afternoon.

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-However, I don't feel

-it goes far enough at the moment.

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-I feel that all badgers

-carrying the disease must be culled.

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-I think it's important

-that the Welsh Government acts...

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-..after this consultation.

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-A vacuum has surrounded governmental

-policy on this matter...

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-..for the past year...

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-..since they confirmed

-they were postponing vaccination.

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-I give a cautious welcome

-to the statement.

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-After five years of denying that

-badger culling has a role to play...

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-..the government is now saying

-culling could have a role...

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-..on the basis

-of the Northern Ireland model.

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-That is an important step.

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-We should remember that this

-is a consultation document...

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-..and not a definitive strategy.

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-Those in the agricultural sector,

-rural communities and beyond...

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-..who believe in badger culling

-should respond positively to this...

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-..and urge the government

-to move in that direction.

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-Since the introduction

-of the eradication scheme in 2012...

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-..the number of new cases

-has fallen 19%.

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-That seems to be good news.

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-Are the agricultural unions happy?

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-There is a glimmer of hope today.

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-She's spoken about the areas

-badly affected by TB.

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-We've experienced this problem

-for over 20 years at home.

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-Up to now, we haven't

-held out much hope in Wales.

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-Badgers have been culled in England.

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-I half expected Wales

-to follow in England's footsteps.

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-But areas like Meirionnydd or

-Anglesey rear good-quality cattle...

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-..that are free of TB...

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-..and that are as good as any cattle

-anywhere in the world.

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-They can now demonstrate this.

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-It's definitely a step

-in the right direction.

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-The other important thing...

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-..is that they've recognized the

-problem that exists in the wild.

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-Now that they've done that...

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-..I hope we can build positively to

-find a solution to the TB problem.

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-The consultation

-closes on 10 January.

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-The Cabinet Secretary is encouraging

-anyone with an interest to respond.

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-I think it's important that people

-participate in the consultation.

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-That's what it's there for.

-I'm not pre-empting anything.

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-I have no set ideas. I'm very

-interested to hear people's views.

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-I don't think

-I've been controversial.

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-I've ruled out

-an England-style cull in Wales.

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-I think it's important that we keep

-that evidence-based approach...

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-..which we've always had.

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-I want to see a TB-free Wales

-and I'm sure everybody else does...

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-..particularly

-in the farming sector.

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-Very often these days, farmers' sons

-venture into all sorts of sectors...

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-..to earn a living.

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-Often, the work

-has nothing to do with agriculture.

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-But today, I've come to a farm

-in Rhandirmwyn...

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-..to meet a young farmer

-who's discovered...

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-..that his farming skills

-come in handy on the rugby pitch.

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-The Llandovery players will not

-be happy with the yellow card.

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-Wyn Jones goes for the line!

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-He turns. He looks as though

-he's grounded the ball.

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-The Llandovery boys...

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-..are convinced that

-the Cilycwm farmer has scored a try.

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-Clynmawr near Cilycwm

-is Wyn Jones' home.

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-This is where he developed

-his skills as a rugby player.

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-The hard, physical work

-he does on the farm...

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-..has been an advantage to him

-when playing as a loose-head prop...

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-..first for Llandovery RFC

-and then for the Scarlets.

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-I started out at Llandovery

-playing for the Under 7s.

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-I went up

-through the various age groups...

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-..from the Under 7s to the Under 16s

-and then the youth team.

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-I then made it into the first team.

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-From there, I worked my way up.

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-I've gone about it

-the old-fashioned way!

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-That's the way.

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-When did the big moment come?

-When did you play for the Scarlets?

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-I trained with them a little

-before then so I was used to it.

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-I first played in an LV= game

-about three or four seasons ago.

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-That's where it started.

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-Llandovery RFC have had

-an excellent season as well.

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-Yes, we had a very good season

-last year.

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-We did well in the league

-and we won the cup.

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-It was a big thing for the club.

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-The last time we won it

-was about ten years ago.

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-I remember watching it and thinking

-I'd like to do that one day!

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-It was nice to be part of the team

-that won it last year.

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-How has the farm helped your career?

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-As with all farms,

-there's a lot of hard work involved.

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-That can be seen in my rugby.

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-You always have to work hard.

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-I've been used to working hard

-from a young age...

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-..so that's definitely a help.

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-Wyn farms with his parents,

-Emyr and Heulwen Jones...

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-..on a 400-acre farm.

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-They keep 50 crossbred

-British Blue cattle and 650 sheep.

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-But as Wyn becomes more successful

-on the rugby field...

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-..responsibility for the farm

-falls on his parents' shoulders.

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-Wyn has had a ball in his hand

-as long as I can remember.

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-He was always playing with a ball

-with the neighbours.

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-They were always kicking a ball

-or dealing with the sheep.

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-Being brought up on a farm prepares

-you for something like rugby.

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-Oh, certainly.

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-I remember a Bluefaced ram

-knocking Wyn to the floor...

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-..when he was very little.

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-He got up, the ram knocked him over

-again and he got straight back up.

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-You get used to taking blows

-on a farm.

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-As a mother, how does it feel

-to watch your son playing rugby?

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-I get very nervous.

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-I can't concentrate

-on the game really.

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-I just watch Wyn.

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-What I'm most concerned about

-is that he avoids getting injured.

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-I also want him to have a good game,

-of course.

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-Wyn is lucky that you can both

-keep things going on the farm.

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-It works quite well at the moment.

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-We're lucky

-that we're in good health.

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-Wyn does help out as much as he can,

-fair play.

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-He's a strong lad and can help with

-a lot of the heavy work on the farm.

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-One of his main interests

-has always been Suffolk sheep.

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-He has his own flock

-of pedigree Suffolk sheep.

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-We rear our own rams

-and we sell some as well.

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-Wyn has always enjoyed

-working on the farm.

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-That's why he decided to study

-Agriculture with Animal Science...

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-..at Aberystwyth University.

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-It was always something I wanted to

-do. That's where Dad went as well.

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-It had always been my goal.

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-Had you always wanted to farm?

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-Yes. Since I was a young lad, I

-always wanted to come home to farm.

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-That was the first thing

-I wanted to do.

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-The rugby has happened

-through playing rugby.

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-I never thought

-I'd be a full-time rugby player.

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-I always thought

-I'd be a full-time farmer!

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-You have sheep and cattle here.

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-Which do you prefer?

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-Which do you prefer?

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-I prefer sheep.

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-I don't know why I chose

-Suffolk sheep when I was young.

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-But I love them. I have a little

-flock and I really enjoy it.

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-At the moment, Emyr and Heulwen...

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-..are very proud of Wyn's success

-as a rugby player.

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-But what does the future hold

-at Clynmawr?

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-He'll come back to the farm,

-without a doubt.

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-But whether he'll be here full-time,

-we don't know.

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-The farm might not be large enough

-for that.

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-He has other interests so maybe

-he could follow up one of those too.

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-He really likes farming

-but I'm not sure a farm like this...

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-..will be able to sustain him

-in the future.

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-But at the moment, the rugby

-and farming complement each other.

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-Yes, certainly.

-His heart is in both.

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-It's very nice for him to be able to

-come back to the farm to switch off.

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-I'm sure you're both

-very proud of him.

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-Oh, yes. We're very proud.

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-When he scored a try last year

-to win the Swalec Cup...

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-..we were extremely proud.

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-Which do you prefer at the moment -

-the rugby or the farming?

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-At the moment,

-rugby's the big thing.

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-Playing rugby professionally doesn't

-last long - it's a short career.

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-There'll be plenty of time to farm

-afterwards.

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-Rugby's the main thing

-but I enjoy farming.

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-Will you come home to Clynmawr?

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-Will you come home to Clynmawr?

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-Yes, I hope so.

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-That's what I always wanted to do.

-That's why I went to Aberystwyth.

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-Hopefully one day,

-that's what I will do.

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-At the moment,

-Mam and Dad are at home...

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-..and I help when I have a day off.

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-But I hope to be at home full-time

-one day.

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-We'll take a short break now.

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-Join us shortly to hear our

-second question in the competition.

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-And Daloni will be finding out more

-about starting an egg business.

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-Don't go away!

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-Welcome back.

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-There has been a recent increase...

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-..in the number of people

-who eat eggs and chicken.

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-New business opportunities

-have arisen to meet those demands.

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-Daloni

-met a husband and wife team...

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-..who are venturing into

-the industry at a very high level.

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-How do you go

-from keeping 30 chickens...

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-..to keeping 16,000 of them

-in an enormous shed like this?

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-That's what's about to happen...

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-..here at Parc Gwern-Nannau Farm

-in Llangwm, near Cerrigydrudion.

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-One small business

-is about to expand into a big one.

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-With the help of Agrisgop,

-Arwel and Delyth Jones...

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-..are starting an egg business

-on their 56-acre farm.

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-They've both been keen

-to work on the farm...

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-..rather than being

-in full-time jobs.

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-Because of a lack of land, that

-hasn't been possible - until now.

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-Since we moved here

-four years ago...

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-..we've considered what we could do

-to bring more into the business.

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-We've kept chickens for years.

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-We thought

-it would be a good idea...

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-..if we went into eggs.

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-That's how it all started.

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-There'll be 16,000 chickens here.

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-I've given up my job,

-so I'll be at home full-time...

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-..doing the day-to-day work.

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-It's a good location, Arwel,

-not far from anywhere.

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-We're lucky to be by the road,

-making it convenient for lorries...

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-..to pick up the eggs

-and to deliver feed.

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-Do you need a contract

-to start such an enterprise?

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-The first thing we did

-was look for a contract.

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-We've gone with Lloyd's.

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-We buy the chickens from them...

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-..we buy the feed from them

-and we sell the eggs back to them.

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-Egg production as a business...

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-..is worth over 39 million

-in Wales every year...

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-..and there's a growing demand here

-for both eggs and chicks.

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-Elaine Rees organizes meetings...

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-..with members of Agrisgop's

-chicken group up to twice a month.

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-It's a chance for poultry farmers

-to discuss all aspects of the job.

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-Where costs are concerned...

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-..do you need a bucketful of money

-to start an enterprise like this?

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-You must talk to your bank

-and secure their support, I think.

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-It costs about half a million,

-500,000, to start up.

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-When will they start

-to get some of that back?

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-They say that if you look

-at the figures...

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-..and talk to the bank...

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-..that the bank likes

-to make the money over ten years.

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-But it's a job to know

-from one year to the next...

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-..what the price of eggs will be

-and what feed will cost.

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-But banks always say...

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-..that they're comfortable

-with loans over ten years.

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-What advice would you give

-to anyone considering such a scheme?

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-Getting a contract

-is very important.

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-Eggs and a big shed are useless

-if there's nowhere for them to go.

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-And get support from the bank,

-unless you have money under the bed!

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-No, you do need the bank behind you.

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-With the unit about to open...

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-..Delyth has left her full-time job

-at a local school...

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-..to focus on chickens and eggs.

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-When is the first chicken

-arriving here, Delyth?

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-The chickens are coming

-on 1 November.

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-Are they? Not long now then!

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-Are they? Not long now then!

-

-No, it's not.

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-It'll be here before we turn around.

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-It'll be here before we turn around.

-

-And it's an enormous shed.

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-What are the dimensions?

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-It's 92 metres long.

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-Yes, it's quite long!

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-Would it have been hard

-without Agrisgop's support?

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-Yes, it would have been much harder.

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-Arwel and I

-are very grateful to Elaine.

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-She's helped us all along the way.

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-Without her, I don't think

-we'd have got where we are today.

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-And you'll be here collecting eggs

-from now on, Delyth!

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-Yes, and I'll need

-to get into a routine quickly!

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-After the chickens arrive...

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-..Arwel will still keep

-about 100 Cheviot and Beulah sheep.

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-I'll still keep sheep.

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-I like being with sheep.

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-I even compete at some shows.

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-I even compete at some shows.

-

-Do you?

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-But you still work full-time.

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-Yes, I'm still a full-time builder.

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-Is keeping chickens

-something you really want to do?

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-I've been thinking about it

-for years, but now it's a reality.

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-And Delyth, clearly...

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-She's really looking forward to it.

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-She's really looking forward to it.

-

-She's very enthusiastic.

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-Were there other options

-on this land?

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-Not on this land, no.

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-This farm is so small.

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-I think this is the only way

-we could have carried on farming.

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-And you're delighted.

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-And you're delighted.

-

-Yes, I am.

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-You get the best of three worlds!

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-You get the best of three worlds!

-

-Hopefully, yes.

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-Within a few days, there will be

-16,000 chickens on this land.

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-Do you know what?

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-I get the feeling...

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-..that Delyth and Arwel

-are fully invested in this scheme.

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-They're so passionate

-about what they're doing.

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-You can't help

-but wish them the best of luck.

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-So, this is the way forward.

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-Yes, certainly.

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-We've given it 100%...

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-..and we're determined

-to make it succeed.

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-For the next generation.

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-For the next generation.

-

-For the next generation, yes.

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-To have something here to keep

-the children in the countryside.

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-Pencil and paper at the ready!

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-Alun has the second question

-in our competition.

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-Trailer Competition

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-Once again this year,

-we have three excellent prizes.

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-They've all been donated

-by Ifor Williams Trailers.

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-The first prize

-is the HB506 horsebox trailer...

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-..worth 4,180 + VAT.

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-The second prize is the P8G trailer

-worth 1,945 + VAT.

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-The third prize

-is the P7e trailer worth 950 + VAT.

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-To win one of them, you will have

-to answer five simple questions.

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-The first letter of each answer will

-be an anagram of a five-letter word.

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-You'll need to send us that word

-by 23 November.

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-Here is the second question.

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-A mechanical farmhand

-in the milking parlour.

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-The details and rules of

-the competition are on our website.

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-That's it for another week.

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-I've certainly enjoyed myself

-here in Rhandirmwyn...

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-..hearing about Wyn Jones, Clynmawr.

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-Remember that name because I'm sure

-we'll hear it a lot in the future.

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-Until next time,

-thank you for joining us. Goodbye.

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Bydd Meinir yn ymweld a Wyn Jones yn ardal Rhandirmwyn ger Llanymddyfri, sy'n cyfuno ei waith ar y fferm a'i yrfa rygbi broffesiynol. Meinir visits Wyn Jones who combines farming and rugby.


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