Haf Madoc Wilson ‹ Cyfres 1

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-Tracing the family tree -is an obsession for Welsh people.	0:00:00	0:00:05
-We like to ask where do you come -from and to whom are you related.	0:00:05	0:00:09
-In the National Library -in Aberystwyth...	0:00:09	0:00:12
-..the Perthyn team is investigating -some of your stories.	0:00:12	0:00:16
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-A few months ago, we invited you -to send us your family stories.	0:00:50	0:00:55
-They've been flooding in -from all over Wales.	0:00:55	0:00:59
-The National Library of Wales -is home to a team of experts...	0:01:03	0:01:07
-..who've been investigating -your stories.	0:01:07	0:01:11
-One of the stories -that caught their attention...	0:01:17	0:01:21
-..takes us to Borth-y-Gest -to meet Haf Madoc Wilson...	0:01:21	0:01:25
-..who wants our help to find out -more about her grandfather's family.	0:01:25	0:01:30
-Tracing your family tree -is a recent obsession for you.	0:01:33	0:01:37
-What prompted you to start?	0:01:37	0:01:39
-I was giving a lift home -to someone...	0:01:39	0:01:42
-..who'd been tracing -her family tree...	0:01:42	0:01:45
-..and though I'm ashamed to say it, -I thought, oh, no, not another one!	0:01:45	0:01:49
-She told me her great-grandfather -lived in the Liverpool Arms...	0:01:50	0:01:54
-..in Menai Bridge, which is where -my grandfather was raised.	0:01:54	0:01:59
-I said to her, -"Don't tell me any more.	0:01:59	0:02:01
-"Let me go home -and check my facts first."	0:02:02	0:02:05
-But I could find nothing about him.	0:02:05	0:02:08
-Was your search proving difficult?	0:02:08	0:02:11
-William Williams -was my great-grandfather.	0:02:12	0:02:15
-There are a number of those -in this area...	0:02:15	0:02:18
-..when you consider the hundreds -of quarrymen who lived here.	0:02:18	0:02:22
-Williams is a popular surname -and William Williams even more so.	0:02:23	0:02:27
-Are there specific questions -you'd like to ask...	0:02:28	0:02:31
-..and facts you'd like to find out?	0:02:31	0:02:34
-I've heard that my family -on my grandfather's side...	0:02:34	0:02:38
-..ran a quarry above Llanllechid -called Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.	0:02:38	0:02:43
-They say that Lord Penrhyn -made such a misery of their lives...	0:02:44	0:02:48
-..that they gave it up.	0:02:48	0:02:50
-I'd like to know if that's true.	0:02:50	0:02:53
-I'd also like to know -a little about them...	0:02:53	0:02:56
-..their way of life -and if they're still in the area.	0:02:56	0:03:00
-Haf returns to Church Island -in the Menai Strait...	0:03:03	0:03:07
-..to visit a family grave.	0:03:07	0:03:09
-When I started tracing -the family's history...	0:03:12	0:03:15
-..I was both shocked and ashamed -to discover how little I knew.	0:03:15	0:03:21
-The only thing I knew -about my grandfather...	0:03:21	0:03:24
-..was that he was raised -in the Liverpool Arms...	0:03:24	0:03:28
-..and his parents were buried -on Church Island near Menai Bridge.	0:03:28	0:03:33
-My grandfather always wore a sprig -of southernwood in his buttonhole.	0:03:37	0:03:41
-As a little girl, I'd ask him, -"Why are you wearing that?"	0:03:41	0:03:46
-He'd say, "All quarrymen wear them."	0:03:46	0:03:48
-He also had three spots -like a tattoo on his hand.	0:03:49	0:03:52
-I asked him the same question again, -"Why, Taid?"	0:03:52	0:03:56
-He wasn't the type to have a tattoo.	0:03:56	0:03:58
-But he told me -that all quarrymen had them.	0:03:58	0:04:01
-As a little girl, -I didn't ask any more about it.	0:04:02	0:04:05
-Here on Church Island is where -my great-grandparents are buried.	0:04:10	0:04:16
-William Williams, -my great-grandfather...	0:04:16	0:04:19
-..ran the Liverpool Arms -just around the corner.	0:04:19	0:04:23
-As you can see...	0:04:23	0:04:25
-..it's a very peaceful place -and I'm fond of coming here.	0:04:25	0:04:29
-Before running the Liverpool Arms, -he had many jobs in Menai Bridge...	0:04:29	0:04:34
-..before dying of TB -at the age of 34 years.	0:04:34	0:04:37
-He left three sons, -one of whom was Haf's grandfather.	0:04:37	0:04:41
-I knew my grandfather, -Evan Williams...	0:04:41	0:04:44
-..was brought up in -the Liverpool Arms in Menai Bridge.	0:04:44	0:04:48
-He was raised by his mother -and his stepfather.	0:04:48	0:04:52
-After his mother died, -his stepfather remarried.	0:04:52	0:04:56
-But my grandfather -always emphasized...	0:04:56	0:04:59
-..that he'd had -a happy upbringing.	0:04:59	0:05:03
-It was my grandfather's story that -inspired me to begin this journey...	0:05:07	0:05:12
-..but there are complexities -and gaps in the family tree.	0:05:12	0:05:17
-I've reached a point -where I can't go any further.	0:05:17	0:05:21
-One of the mysteries -is how William Williams...	0:05:21	0:05:25
-..came to be a publican -in Menai Bridge.	0:05:25	0:05:28
-And what truth -is in the family tale...	0:05:28	0:05:31
-..that Haf's family ran Bryn -Hafod-y-Wern Quarry near Bethesda?	0:05:31	0:05:36
-She hopes to fill in the gaps -at the National Library.	0:05:37	0:05:41
-Perthyn has found a link between her -family and Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...	0:05:42	0:05:47
-..a stone's throw from the quarry.	0:05:47	0:05:50
-What else has come to light?	0:05:50	0:05:52
-We know you've already started -researching your family history...	0:05:53	0:05:57
-..but can't go back further -than your great-grandfather.	0:05:57	0:06:02
-But by checking parish records...	0:06:02	0:06:04
-..we've found that the first -of your relatives...	0:06:05	0:06:08
-..to live at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern -was William Philip...	0:06:09	0:06:12
-..a miller from Llanbeblig.	0:06:12	0:06:14
-In 1761, he married -Mary Pritchard from Llanllechid.	0:06:14	0:06:18
-They moved in to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.	0:06:19	0:06:21
-Very interesting. -That's going back many years.	0:06:22	0:06:25
-So you didn't know that.	0:06:26	0:06:27
-So you didn't know that. - -No, I knew nothing about that.	0:06:27	0:06:29
-Perthyn has managed to trace -Haf's family tree back 300 years...	0:06:29	0:06:34
-..and six generations -to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...	0:06:34	0:06:38
-..where William Philip -and Mary Pritchard farmed.	0:06:39	0:06:42
-Usually, -poor families such as yours...	0:06:44	0:06:47
-..wouldn't have left -any documentation behind.	0:06:47	0:06:50
-But we've found one document...	0:06:51	0:06:53
-..from the Court of Great Sessions -in 1773.	0:06:53	0:06:56
-The high court dealt -with the most serious crimes.	0:06:56	0:07:01
-Oh, dear!	0:07:02	0:07:03
-The document records that two girls -- Jane Owen and Catherine Jones...	0:07:04	0:07:10
-..were caught stealing clothes...	0:07:10	0:07:12
-..and selling them to Mary Pritchard -of Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.	0:07:13	0:07:16
-This document records the testimony -of Jane Owen...	0:07:17	0:07:21
-..which shows that they stole...	0:07:21	0:07:25
-..three shirts, four cravats...	0:07:25	0:07:28
-..three pairs of stockings...	0:07:29	0:07:32
-..one large handkerchief -and one small one.	0:07:32	0:07:35
-It goes on to say -that Mary Pritchard...	0:07:36	0:07:39
-..had encouraged them -to steal the goods...	0:07:39	0:07:42
-..and had pledged -to buy them from them.	0:07:43	0:07:46
-She supplied the bullets -and the others fired them.	0:07:47	0:07:51
-That's what this evidence suggests.	0:07:51	0:07:54
-I'm sure I'll be ribbed about that.	0:07:54	0:07:57
-During the 18th century, -thieves were severely punished.	0:08:00	0:08:04
-Theft was as serious a crime -as murder.	0:08:04	0:08:07
-With prisons overflowing, -from 1710 onwards...	0:08:07	0:08:11
-..the worst prisoners -were exiled to America...	0:08:11	0:08:14
-..and later to Australia.	0:08:15	0:08:17
-What fate befell Mary Pritchard -and the two girls back in 1773?	0:08:20	0:08:24
-After hearing -the pair's testimony...	0:08:25	0:08:27
-..we know that one of them...	0:08:28	0:08:31
-..was exiled for seven years.	0:08:32	0:08:33
-What happened to Mary Pritchard?	0:08:34	0:08:37
-Fortunately, -we have found another document...	0:08:37	0:08:41
-..which records Mary's verdict.	0:08:42	0:08:44
-She's referred to here as Mary, -wife of William Philip.	0:08:44	0:08:48
-She was found not guilty.	0:08:49	0:08:51
-Thank goodness for that.	0:08:51	0:08:54
-After the death of William Philip...	0:08:55	0:08:58
-..what happened -to Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm?	0:08:58	0:09:02
-We've found a lease which shows -that following his death...	0:09:03	0:09:07
-..the farm was divided -between two of the sons.	0:09:08	0:09:12
-The family -didn't actually own the farm.	0:09:12	0:09:16
-Lord Penrhyn...	0:09:17	0:09:18
-..actually owned the farm -and the family were tenant farmers.	0:09:19	0:09:24
-He does come into the story then.	0:09:24	0:09:26
-This is the first reference -to link Bryn Hafod-y-Wern...	0:09:26	0:09:30
-..with Lord Penrhyn.	0:09:30	0:09:32
-Perthyn has proved that Haf's family -farmed in the Llanllechid area...	0:09:33	0:09:38
-..more than two centuries ago...	0:09:38	0:09:41
-..and were tenants -to Lord Penrhyn...	0:09:41	0:09:43
-..who, in time, would have a major -influence on North Wales's quarries.	0:09:44	0:09:49
-Haf returns -to her ancestors' birthplace.	0:09:49	0:09:53
-It's hard to believe...	0:09:57	0:09:59
-..but I was a pupil at Llanllechid -primary school many years ago.	0:10:00	0:10:04
-I always felt happy there.	0:10:04	0:10:06
-It's strange going back...	0:10:06	0:10:08
-..to the same area -and having that same feeling.	0:10:09	0:10:13
-I felt as though I belonged here...	0:10:14	0:10:16
-..but couldn't prove the link -until this research.	0:10:16	0:10:20
-This is the first mention -of Lord Penrhyn in the story.	0:10:22	0:10:26
-He's closely associated -with the Bethesda area.	0:10:28	0:10:31
-Up to now, farming is the only -occupation that's been mentioned.	0:10:32	0:10:37
-But knowing the connection Lord -Penrhyn had with the quarries...	0:10:37	0:10:43
-..I wonder if my family...	0:10:43	0:10:45
-..had a role -to play in the quarrying industry.	0:10:46	0:10:50
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-Perthyn has traced -Haf Madoc Wilson's family tree...	0:11:07	0:11:11
-..back 250 years to -Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm, Bethesda...	0:11:11	0:11:15
-..a stone's throw -from Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.	0:11:15	0:11:19
-She's been led to believe -that her family ran it.	0:11:19	0:11:22
-They were tenants of Lord Penrhyn.	0:11:22	0:11:25
-Richard Pennant was the first -in a long line of lords...	0:11:25	0:11:29
-..who transformed -North Wales forever.	0:11:29	0:11:32
-But as tenant farmers...	0:11:32	0:11:34
-..would Haf's family -have run the quarry?	0:11:35	0:11:37
-Haf has come to Penrhyn Castle -to meet historian, Dr Dafydd Gwyn.	0:11:38	0:11:42
-I understand that my family...	0:11:44	0:11:46
-..were tenants of Lord Penrhyn's -estate in the 18th century.	0:11:46	0:11:51
-What sort of landlord was he?	0:11:51	0:11:53
-Well, he was a man of his times.	0:11:54	0:11:56
-Richard Pennant, -the first Lord Penrhyn...	0:11:56	0:11:59
-..was certainly an industrious man.	0:12:00	0:12:02
-He constructed roads and railways -and opened quarries.	0:12:03	0:12:06
-He built villages and homes -for farmhands and quarrymen.	0:12:06	0:12:10
-He was a man of the new age.	0:12:10	0:12:13
-He was more of a capitalist -than an old-fashioned landlord.	0:12:13	0:12:18
-Lord Penrhyn -tried to acquire leaseholds...	0:12:19	0:12:22
-..and extend estates -across the valley...	0:12:22	0:12:25
-..to create one large estate.	0:12:26	0:12:28
-The estate was growing during your -family's time at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.	0:12:28	0:12:33
-It's unlikely...	0:12:33	0:12:35
-..that a family such as yours -would have run a quarry.	0:12:36	0:12:40
-Quarries were run by rich men.	0:12:40	0:12:43
-Bankers and lords -such as Richard Pennant.	0:12:43	0:12:46
-Local people -were given the opportunity...	0:12:46	0:12:49
-..to become stewards or managers -of a quarry and ordinary quarrymen.	0:12:49	0:12:54
-But they didn't run larger quarries.	0:12:55	0:12:57
-It's apparent that Haf's family -didn't run the quarry.	0:13:00	0:13:03
-But is there any truth at all -to the family story...	0:13:04	0:13:07
-..linking them to the quarries?	0:13:07	0:13:10
-The history of the North Wales slate -quarries is very much a part of us.	0:13:11	0:13:17
-We're surrounded by them.	0:13:17	0:13:19
-They've scarred our landscape.	0:13:20	0:13:22
-Haf's family farmed this land -during a period of change.	0:13:23	0:13:27
-The farming landscape changed -into an industrial landscape.	0:13:27	0:13:32
-In the mid-18th century, a high -proportion of slate was produced.	0:13:33	0:13:37
-A century later, the industry was -at its peak, employing 15,000 men.	0:13:38	0:13:42
-The quarries of Penrhyn...	0:13:45	0:13:47
-..and Dinorwig -were the largest in the world.	0:13:47	0:13:50
-Remnants of those days -can still be seen.	0:13:51	0:13:54
-Hello, nice to meet you.	0:13:59	0:14:01
-Welcome to the museum.	0:14:01	0:14:03
-If Haf's family -didn't run the quarry...	0:14:03	0:14:06
-..was there any evidence to suggest -they were associated with it at all?	0:14:07	0:14:11
-At the slate museum in Llanberis, -former quarryman, Peredur Hughes...	0:14:11	0:14:17
-..has found information -about Haf's family.	0:14:17	0:14:20
-Could the mystery be solved?	0:14:20	0:14:22
-Evidence has come to light...	0:14:24	0:14:26
-..proving that -your great-great-grandfather...	0:14:27	0:14:30
-..David Williams was a quarryman.	0:14:30	0:14:33
-It's more than likely that he worked -at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.	0:14:33	0:14:38
-The evidence has come about...	0:14:38	0:14:41
-..through the censuses.	0:14:42	0:14:44
-This census...	0:14:44	0:14:46
-..from 1841...	0:14:46	0:14:50
-..records that David is a quarryman.	0:14:50	0:14:55
-He's only 15 years old, -at such a young age.	0:14:55	0:14:59
-There weren't many quarrymen -working at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern.	0:14:59	0:15:04
-Probably, he came to work there...	0:15:04	0:15:07
-..because he lived so close -to the quarry.	0:15:08	0:15:10
-That's where his career began.	0:15:11	0:15:13
-He would have learned how to split -and chip the stone for roof tiles.	0:15:13	0:15:18
-What kind of life -did the quarrymen lead?	0:15:19	0:15:23
-David Williams -lived through hard times...	0:15:23	0:15:26
-..due to the working conditions -back then.	0:15:27	0:15:30
-They were out in all weathers.	0:15:31	0:15:33
-From what we know, -they would have worn sacks...	0:15:34	0:15:38
-..around their shoulders -to keep them dry.	0:15:38	0:15:41
-The sack would've been coated -in goose fat or something similar...	0:15:41	0:15:46
-..to protect them from the rain, -the wet conditions and the wind.	0:15:46	0:15:52
-The work of a quarryman -such as David Williams...	0:15:52	0:15:56
-..Haf's great-great-grandfather, -was dangerous and physical.	0:15:56	0:16:00
-They would hang for hours from ropes -suspended over the rock face.	0:16:00	0:16:05
-Working conditions were severe.	0:16:05	0:16:07
-As well as being exposed -to the slate dust...	0:16:08	0:16:11
-..using dangerous tools -led to numerous accidents.	0:16:11	0:16:14
-Over time, there were many deaths.	0:16:16	0:16:18
-In 1821, Lord Penrhyn -sent more than 20 men...	0:16:22	0:16:25
-..from his quarry in Bethesda...	0:16:25	0:16:27
-..to start work -at Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry.	0:16:28	0:16:31
-But their time there -was short-lived.	0:16:31	0:16:33
-The running of Bryn Hafod-y-Wern -quarry was costly and problematic.	0:16:39	0:16:44
-Slate had to be extracted -from deep within the seam.	0:16:44	0:16:47
-Lord Penrhyn gave up on it...	0:16:47	0:16:50
-..allowing the Bangor Slate Company -to take it over in 1845.	0:16:50	0:16:56
-It's most likely -that David Williams went there...	0:16:58	0:17:02
-..to work for this company.	0:17:03	0:17:05
-The Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry...	0:17:05	0:17:08
-..was in competition -with Lord Penrhyn's quarries.	0:17:08	0:17:12
-The slate and all the waste -had to be carried up the mountain...	0:17:12	0:17:16
-..because the land beneath -the quarry belonged to Penrhyn.	0:17:17	0:17:21
-He did all he could -to make it difficult for them.	0:17:21	0:17:24
-He cut off the water supply -that was essential to the quarry.	0:17:24	0:17:29
-In the 1860s, -Bryn Hafod-y-Wern quarry closed.	0:17:29	0:17:33
-Haf is visiting her ancestors' farm -for the first time.	0:17:39	0:17:43
-From their home here -above Penrhyn Castle...	0:17:44	0:17:47
-..they would have witnessed -a period of great change...	0:17:47	0:17:51
-..as well as the dispute between the -lords of Penrhyn and the quarrymen.	0:17:51	0:17:56
-Haf's family's connection -with Bryn Hafod-y-Wern Farm...	0:18:04	0:18:08
-..goes back six generations to -William Philip and Mary Pritchard.	0:18:08	0:18:13
-Their grandson, David Williams, was -the first quarryman in the family.	0:18:13	0:18:19
-Peredur -has more information about him.	0:18:21	0:18:23
-Here we have -the birth certificate...	0:18:25	0:18:28
-..of David Williams's child, -William...	0:18:28	0:18:33
-..in 1856.	0:18:34	0:18:36
-As you can see...	0:18:37	0:18:38
-..David is now a slate quarrier.	0:18:39	0:18:42
-But unfortunately, -three years later...	0:18:43	0:18:46
-..we have the death certificate...	0:18:46	0:18:50
-..of David Williams -who died at the age of 37 years.	0:18:50	0:18:55
-Did he die in an accident?	0:18:55	0:18:57
-No, he died from an illness.	0:18:57	0:18:59
-Unfortunately, it was TB.	0:18:59	0:19:02
-How sad.	0:19:02	0:19:04
-How sad. - -Yes, very sad.	0:19:04	0:19:06
-Phthisis is the archaic term for TB.	0:19:07	0:19:10
-Working in the slate dust -was damaging to the lungs.	0:19:11	0:19:14
-By the 1920s, -more people died from TB...	0:19:14	0:19:17
-..in the quarrying villages -of North Wales...	0:19:18	0:19:21
-..than anywhere else -in southern Britain.	0:19:21	0:19:25
-It's interesting to think -that the past was brought to life...	0:19:30	0:19:34
-..150 years ago.	0:19:34	0:19:36
-Our ancestors' way of life.	0:19:36	0:19:39
-It takes me back.	0:19:40	0:19:43
-What I want to know now is -what happened to his wife, Grace...	0:19:53	0:19:57
-..and their children.	0:19:58	0:19:59
-Why did William Williams, -my great-grandfather...	0:20:00	0:20:03
-..move to the Liverpool Arms -in Menai Bridge?	0:20:03	0:20:07
-Will Perthyn have the answers -for Haf back at the slate museum?	0:20:15	0:20:20
-What I have here -is the census of 1861.	0:20:28	0:20:31
-It says Evan Hughes, Grace Williams.	0:20:31	0:20:35
-This is my great-great-grandmother.	0:20:35	0:20:38
-Therefore, it means -that after losing her husband...	0:20:40	0:20:44
-..Grace, in an age -where there was no welfare state...	0:20:44	0:20:48
-..had to go and live with her father -and her brother and sister...	0:20:48	0:20:52
-..and her two young sons.	0:20:52	0:20:54
-Evan was three years old -and David was a year old.	0:20:55	0:20:59
-But the other son, William, -was only five years old...	0:21:00	0:21:03
-..yet there is no mention of him -on this.	0:21:04	0:21:06
-I wonder what happened to him.	0:21:07	0:21:09
-In this document, -the census of 1861...	0:21:14	0:21:17
-..from Llanfairfechan...	0:21:17	0:21:19
-..there's a record of William Hughes -living in Castle Inn.	0:21:20	0:21:25
-Head, married, 30 years old.	0:21:25	0:21:28
-Publican.	0:21:28	0:21:30
-And Anne, wife, 29 years old.	0:21:30	0:21:34
-Then there's a William Williams, -nephew.	0:21:35	0:21:38
-Five years old.	0:21:38	0:21:40
-It's obvious my great-grandfather...	0:21:40	0:21:44
-..went to live -with his mother's brother.	0:21:44	0:21:48
-With no means -of supporting her family...	0:21:49	0:21:52
-..Grace was dependent -on her relatives.	0:21:52	0:21:55
-She sent her eldest son, -William Williams, to her brother.	0:21:55	0:21:59
-Did William ever go back -to his brothers and mother, Grace?	0:22:00	0:22:04
-This is the death certificate...	0:22:04	0:22:06
-..of Grace Williams.	0:22:09	0:22:11
-She was 28 years old.	0:22:11	0:22:13
-"Widow of David Williams, -slate quarrier.	0:22:13	0:22:16
-"Typhoid fever."	0:22:17	0:22:18
-It's very sad.	0:22:19	0:22:21
-Poor dab.	0:22:21	0:22:24
-Following the death of both parents, -the young boys were left orphaned.	0:22:27	0:22:33
-The boys were separated and the link -with the quarries was severed.	0:22:33	0:22:38
-William was raised by his uncle...	0:22:38	0:22:40
-..before running his own tavern -in Menai Bridge...	0:22:40	0:22:43
-..where Haf's grandfather -was brought up.	0:22:44	0:22:47
-I could never understand how my -great-grandfather came to run a pub.	0:22:47	0:22:52
-It was never mentioned...	0:22:52	0:22:54
-..because the family -is rather narrow-minded...	0:22:54	0:22:58
-..particularly my grandfather.	0:22:58	0:23:00
-That explains the link with The -Liverpool Arms and Menai Bridge...	0:23:01	0:23:06
-..because he'd been brought up -in the business.	0:23:06	0:23:09
-I feel closer to them now.	0:23:13	0:23:16
-This research has helped me -bring my ancestors to life.	0:23:16	0:23:22
-They're not just names to me -any more.	0:23:24	0:23:26
-I feel as if I know them...	0:23:27	0:23:29
-..and they're -an important part of me.	0:23:30	0:23:32
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