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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down the families of people who died without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to long lost relatives | 0:00:06 | 0:00:11 | |
who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
On today's programme, the heir hunters uncover a salacious case of a man jailed for bigamy | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
and in the process four sisters meet each other for the first time. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:43 | |
You are nothing like I imagined you to be! | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
And after losing touch with his younger brother for four years an heir has to say a poignant goodbye. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:53 | |
He got bullied a little bit, but still... But there we are. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
I mean, I used to sort that out. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
And we will have details of some of the hundreds of unclaimed estates. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
Could you be in line for a windfall? | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
More than two thirds of people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
If no obvious relatives are found their money goes to the Government | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and last year, they made a staggering £18 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
That's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
We couldn't find a marriage for your parents. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Over 30 companies make it their business to try and find heirs to inherit this money. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
Last year alone, they claimed back over £6.5 million for unsuspecting relatives. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:39 | |
Sometimes we are the link. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
We are the actual people who put people back in touch with each other | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
and that is just so rewarding. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
It's 7am on Thursday morning | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
at the London office of Fraser and Fraser, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
a family-run genealogy company. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
The Government list of people who have died without a will has been announced. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
The first task of the day is to scan through the names | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
and try to work out whether any of the people listed owned their own properties. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
Any more addresses need checking? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
Seven look like it needs to be checked. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
Heir hunters work on commission, so they need to ensure their costs will be covered by the estate. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:26 | |
When a person dies leaving a house it is likely to be worth | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
anything from tens of thousands to millions of pounds depending on the property. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:35 | |
But this morning the researchers are struggling to find out | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
whether any of today's possible cases have a big estate attached to them. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
It's one of those days when they will be flitting around | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
doing lots of cases I think, until we can get something to get our teeth into. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Case manager Tony Pledger is not optimistic about the day ahead. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
So far, it's been a waste of time getting up. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
I think I would have been better off staying in bed. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
Of the listings put out by the authorities | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
we are looking very initially at 14, but clearly we won't be looking at all the 14. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:12 | |
We might whittle it down to about one and a half in an hour or so, I would hope. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Tony's one case may have just been found. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
The team's enquiries have singled out Vincent McGarry, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
who died leaving a flat in East London worth an estimated £150,000. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:29 | |
Partner Neil Fraser has given the team the go ahead to work the case. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
So, what we are looking at is a case of Vincent George McGarry. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
He dies in January of 2007, so it has actually taken two years for it to get to us. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
He is from Stoke Newington, Hackney sort of area, E5. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:47 | |
It's an area which has been greatly affected by the Olympics | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and the property prices have increased dramatically in that. So, that's good from our point of view. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
I don't really know where it's going to go. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
McGarry is not an English name, it's more of a Scottish name. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Vincent McGarry lived in Hackney, London, and worked as a telecommunications engineer. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
He was just 64 when he died. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
His friend and colleague Cliff Parker read the eulogy at his funeral. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
If you've got to know Vince, you've got to know his character, got to understand him | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
and knew how he worked then you were one of his friends for life, which, you know, I think I was one of them. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
But some people took him a different way because of his Scottish harshness sometimes. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
They didn't really understand him, but he was... | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
He just worked 24/7 and he was just such a dedicated individual. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
Before he worked with Cliff, Vincent spent 22 years of his life in the Army. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:47 | |
He was promoted to the rank of sergeant, but over and above this, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
he pushed himself to achieve in all the areas he could. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
He liked a challenge. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
All the projects that he ever worked on, he loved them. He loved the buzz, the challenge. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
And I think the Army when he joined at the age of 22. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
It was a challenge for him and seeing his service record, the medals that he got and, you know, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
the courses that he went through that he was a very, very good Army sergeant, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:19 | |
as it was. So, yeah. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Vincent's Army service was exemplary. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
He was awarded three medals, the most prestigious of which was the British Empire Medal | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
for meritorious service, which was an outstanding achievement. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Not content to rest on his laurels, Vincent also passed a myriad of courses, physical and academic. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:40 | |
After the camaraderie of the Army, Vincent left and forged new relationships in his civilian life. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:47 | |
Work and friends became Vincent's family and that was it, basically. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:55 | |
Because whether he didn't want to know or he didn't know who his other family were, | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
which I suspect the latter is probably, you know, the more likely, it was just work | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
and family and his passions in life which was his bike and his skiing. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Vincent died without a will leaving an estate | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
which is estimated to be worth £150,000, which will all go to the Treasury unless heirs can be found. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:20 | |
Genealogists start their research by looking for birth, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
death and marriage records of the person who's died | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
so that they can use the dates and names to start building up layers of a family tree | 0:06:31 | 0:06:36 | |
which can lead to heirs. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
So, the first thing the office is looking for | 0:06:37 | 0:06:43 | |
a birth record for Vincent to find out his parents' names. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
Senior researcher Gareth has already made a discovery, but not necessarily a good one. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
Yeah, we've just discovered that McGarry is Scottish, so probably not much we can do here. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
Finding Vincent is Scottish is yet another hindrance for the team. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
The records for anything that isn't in England and Wales are a little bit more difficult for us | 0:07:02 | 0:07:07 | |
because we don't have the same indexes, although we do have some of the indexes, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
and so it slows us down a little bit. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
We just have to look at it in a slightly different way. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
As the office doesn't have a comprehensive set of records for Scottish births, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
deaths and marriages they are calling in reinforcements in Edinburgh. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
There's a job down here called Vincent George and the surname is McGarry. M-C-G-A-R-R-Y. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:33 | |
Born on 24 December 1943 | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
and there is a corresponding birth in Edinburgh, St Andrews, in 1944. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
So, there we go. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
Although their office is based in London the firm have a network of agents | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
around the world who can help with finding local records. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
On top of this, they have a fleet of travelling heir hunters who can be sent wherever they're needed | 0:07:52 | 0:07:58 | |
to chase up clues, collect evidence and when heirs have been found, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
speed over to sign them up and get their commission. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
As the office have been having a slow morning, travelling researcher, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
Ewart Lindsay is still waiting to be sent out on the road from his hometown | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
and he's hoping for an easy day. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
What I can actually hear from the office right now in terms of where I will be going | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
would be to be going to Watford, to be working in Watford today. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
That would be good news. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
Hello, Tone. Where do you want me to go? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
He's of London E5 when he dies. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
He's born in Edinburgh in 1943 | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
and Neil thinks it would be a good idea for you to go up there, all right? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Because obviously if it's going to come out, it's going to come out in Scotland. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
Are you serious? I have got to go to Edinburgh? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
We definitely want you to get on the next available plane to Edinburgh, right? | 0:08:55 | 0:09:01 | |
And then let us know... Let us know when you get the flight booked, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
what flight you're on and when it gets there, right? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
So we know what we are aiming at. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
OK, mate? Ta-ra. Bye. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Ewart's hopes for an easy day have been dashed and things are about to get worse. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
EWART SIGHS | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
The battery's dead. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Fortunately for the company, making progress doesn't hinge on Ewart being in Scotland. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:37 | |
They have contacts in Edinburgh who can work | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
from the General Register Office in the heart of the town. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Scottish records are often easier to cross reference than English ones because, unlike records in England, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:47 | |
both the mother and father's names are recorded on marriage and death certificates. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
To help matters further, when it comes to official records women keep their birth surname | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
throughout their life, even if they marry, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
which makes it easier for genealogists to ensure they are tracking the right person. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
The agent in Scotland has already made the leap that Frasers couldn't from London. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
We have the birth of the deceased in Scotland. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Now, the birth of the deceased shows that he was in fact illegitimate. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
He was the son of a George Francis McGarry and an Evelyn Miller Davidson. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
Now, they hadn't married, but then looking for their marriage subsequent to the birth | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
we find another marriage. We find the marriage for George Francis McGarry to somebody else. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
Now, George Francis McGarry married a Catherine Faulkner Eggo in 1948 in Stirling in the January. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:44 | |
It's a massive breakthrough for the team. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
From finding Vincent's birth certificate | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
the Scottish agents have found his parents' names | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
and discovered that they were not married. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
They also know that his father married another woman | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
after Vincent's birth, which means that there may be half-brothers and sisters from another marriage. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
If Vincent has no full-blood siblings, his half-blood siblings could inherit. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
The present thing is to identify the deaths of the parents, but the father obviously could have been | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
anywhere between Scotland, here or Ireland and the mother probably stayed in Scotland. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
So, the first priority is to identify the death of the mother. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
The researchers are hunting for the death certificate | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
because whoever provided the information may have been related to Vincent's parents. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
But while the office may be going at full speed, what about Ewart? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:40 | |
I'm happy. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
It only took seconds. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
But I've got to drive it continuously for at least half an hour, so that's all right. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:49 | |
That works in perfect because I will be going to Heathrow, to Terminal Five. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
While Ewart sets off for Scotland, Tony has just had a phone call | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
from the Edinburgh agent about a tragic event in Vincent's family. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:03 | |
Our Scottish agent has found the death of the mother of the deceased | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
and it would appear that she committed suicide in 1946. And she was single. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:12 | |
Vincent had a rough start to life. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
He was just two and a half when his mother committed suicide and he spent his childhood in care. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
It's not clear whether he ever knew his father, George, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
but as the office know his mother had no more children, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
they'll need to concentrate their search on his father to see if Vincent had any other siblings. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
Ewart's arrived at the airport ready to fly to Scotland, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
but will there be any heirs for him when he arrives? | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
And there's some shock news in store for a member of Vincent's family. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
The office seem to think that when he married your mum in January 1948, that it was bigamous. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:59 | |
The case of Vincent McGarry is far from solved. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
The sweeping hills and valleys of Powys in mid Wales are an unlikely place | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
to find one part of an international heir-hunting company, | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
but this is where Peter Birchwood of Celtic Research is based. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
Peter's 30 years in the genealogy business | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
have taught him that heir hunting requires great tact and empathy. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:34 | |
It's not just money. It's the matter of maybe having somebody | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
who they were close to, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
lost touch with and now you have to tell them they're no longer with us. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
One case investigated by Peter was that of Peter Sharpe who died in Nottingham aged just 57. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:54 | |
He was single and had no children. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
As he never got round to writing a will, his £10,000 estate | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
went unclaimed for four years before Peter Birchwood found his details. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
It was a case where he was born in the 1940s, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:12 | |
so we started looking for any close relatives that he might have had. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
On Peter Sharpe's death certificate it showed that he was born in Nottingham in 1940. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:23 | |
This record is the starting point for any genealogist. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
From that it's looking through the records | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
to find, firstly, if the deceased ever married and then to see if there are any brothers and sisters. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:36 | |
But failing those things then we are going to have to start looking back into the parents' families | 0:14:36 | 0:14:43 | |
to look for cousins on both sides of the family. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Peter began looking for the parents | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
and found that Middleton and Lucy Sharpe had married in March 1938. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:55 | |
Through them he discovered that Peter had an older brother, Patrick, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
who was still alive. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:00 | |
Patrick himself had married and had some children and with a case like this it's always a little bit tricky | 0:15:02 | 0:15:10 | |
because you are going to have to tell someone that a close relative of theirs has died | 0:15:10 | 0:15:17 | |
and because Patrick Sharpe was himself an older man | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
I got in touch with his daughter first who introduced me to him. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
As Patrick only lived 10 miles away from where his brother had died, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
Peter was cautious about breaking the news to him. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
He had no idea how close the brothers had been | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
or what impact it would have on Patrick to know the truth. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Oh, it was a hell of a shock. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
I couldn't believe that. The first thing I knew, Peter Birchwood had found my youngest daughter | 0:15:46 | 0:15:54 | |
and contacted her and then I had a phone call from Josephine | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
telling me, you know, Uncle Peter had passed away and they were trying to find me. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
I didn't believe it to start with. I thought it was a wind-up, you know? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
I thought Josephine had got the wrong end of the stick, as usual, but she hadn't, no. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
Patrick called Peter Birchwood to find out what had happened to his brother. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
The news was a major shock because he had been unable to track down his brother, Peter, himself | 0:16:16 | 0:16:23 | |
and for four years had had no idea what had happened to him. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Unfortunately it seems to have been that Peter moved his apartment, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:34 | |
but he had died almost immediately after moving and that was a clean break. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:41 | |
There was really no way easily for his brother to find him | 0:16:41 | 0:16:49 | |
because there wasn't, unfortunately, a brother to find any more. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Although they were a close family, this simple change of address caused the brothers to lose touch. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
So, as a result, Peter died without his family knowing. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Well, at the time you don't realise you're losing contact. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
You don't realise that time is moving on, you know? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
You might think it's only a few weeks or a few days, but then it comes to months | 0:17:10 | 0:17:15 | |
and suddenly you think, "I haven't heard from our Pete lately", you know? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Or "He has not been round to see me lately, I wonder why?" | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
And you start thinking, you know, "Where is he?", like, you know? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
So, you start searching then and then you come up against a brick wall | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
because nobody wants to tell you anything, "That's confidential", or things like that. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
They push you out. "We can't tell you things like that." | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
I said, "Well, it's my brother! I want to find him." But, no, they wouldn't help you. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
Because the authorities were unwilling to give out confidential information, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:46 | |
Patrick began to despair. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
He had always kept an eye out for his younger brother | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
from the day he was born because Peter had been a vulnerable child. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
He was born three months premature and for many years into his childhood was plagued by ill health. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
Most of his childhood, even before he started school, was mainly spent in and out of hospital. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
In fact, when I was... | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
When it was summertime I often went to live with my Aunt Mildred | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
at Ruddington, I did, because our Peter was so very ill, you see? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
And they couldn't be looking after Peter and me at the same time, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
so I went to live with my Auntie at Ruddington. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Having been a premature baby, Peter was in and out of hospital up until his early teens, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
but time apart from his brother didn't stop the two being close. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
Well, I was just like a big brother to him, you see? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Big brother and best friend, I suppose, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
because he knew if he wanted any help, he either come to me or his dad or his mam. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It would usually be Pat. "Oh, Pat will take you there", | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
or, you know, "Ask our Pat." | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
Patrick took Peter under his wing and despite their five-year age gap | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
they spent many happy hours at the railway line during their childhood in the '50s and '60s. | 0:18:53 | 0:19:00 | |
Well, we always came here as kids, you know? | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
My brother and me spent hours up here | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
watching the trains go through, like, you know? Train spotting and things like that. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
When I was working, like, you know, when I left school, working, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
I used to take him and his two mates to places like Grantham, Peterborough, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
Derby, Crewe, all over the place. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
I worked on the railway, you see, so I got passes and took him round the sheds. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
I always wanted to protect Peter. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
As a young boy his health was frail. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
Very weak. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
So, he needed a bit of protection, the lad did. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
When Patrick finally found out what had happened to Peter it was a great shock. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
He had to come to terms with the fact that the younger brother he had protected throughout his life | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
had died and, even worse, that it had happened four years ago. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:56 | |
I would understand it if it had been a few months or a few weeks, but four years, no. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
That takes a bit of swallowing, that does. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Once he had found Patrick, Peter Birchwood was able to give him the news | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
that he would be in line to inherit his brother's £10,000 estate. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
He wasn't really worried about how much his brother had left. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
In fact, he said at the time, and I believe it's still his intention, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:25 | |
that he would just like to be able to put some sort of memorial to his brother | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
and as long as there's enough money in the estate to do that then he will be content. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:36 | |
Thanks to Peter Birchwood, Patrick has been able to put his worries about Peter's whereabouts to rest | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
and he can concentrate on happier memories, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
many of which were from their childhood in Gotham near Nottingham. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Today, he is visiting their old haunts, starting with their school. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
This was, like, middle school here, when you were about 11 or 12, here. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Peter and Patrick went to school at Gotham Primary during the 1950s. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
The school has since relocated, but as Patrick walks around the old building, the memories flood back | 0:21:08 | 0:21:14 | |
of watching out for his vulnerable younger brother on the days that he actually made it to school. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:20 | |
He'd be here for a fortnight, three weeks, then back in hospital, you see, for more treatments. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
That's how he went on until he was about, what? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
Nine, ten years of age. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
But he had his friends here. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
People understood him, like, understood what he was going through. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
He got bullied a little bit, but still... | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
There we are. I mean, I used to sort that out. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
Patrick has been invited to the school's new premises by head teacher Sue Lymn-Brewin. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:57 | |
She has some photos that she thinks will interest him. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Now, we think that your brother may be on the front row here. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:05 | |
-Right, where's Peter? -We think... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Yes, that's Peter. That's Peter. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
-It is. -That's Peter. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
The school have kept an archive of old class photos, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
including some taken from when Patrick and Peter were pupils. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-So, where is he on that one? -He's there, look. -That one there? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Yeah. That's Peter. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
And how would he have been there, it was 1957? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
'57... He'd be just ten. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
Just ten. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
Patrick hadn't seen the collection of photos since he was at school over 50 years ago. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:35 | |
It's been lovely to see them, you know? | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
It really has been wonderful to see them. And it's been nice to be invited here. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
I am very grateful to the people to invite me back, you know, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
and see it all because I probably shan't see it again. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It's... Yeah, it has been well worth coming. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
I wouldn't have missed it for the world. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
If visiting his old school in Gotham has brought back childhood memories, | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
Patrick's final stop is even more rich in nostalgia. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
He is visiting the house where he and Peter grew up. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
It may have changed over the years, but the memories are still vivid. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:13 | |
This was number 10. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
It doesn't say so, but it is. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
50 years since I left this house. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
17 years of age. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Cor blimey! | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Turn the clock back to how it was, please, because it were better then. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
It was a happy street. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
All the laughter, with kids. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
Yeah, beautiful. Yeah. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
It really was nice. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Pete were 14 then, I think. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Or was he 13? I can't remember now. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
13 or 14. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
It doesn't seem five minutes. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
I think it's time to go home. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Time to go. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:15 | |
For every case that is solved there are still thousands that stubbornly remain a mystery. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
Currently over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:43 | |
Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
the rightful heirs are out there somewhere. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Klaudusz Umanski died in May 2008. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
Do you recognise that unusual name? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
If so, your memories could prove vital in seeking out Mr Umanski's rightful heir. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
Could that heir even be you? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
Iris Ann Webb of Upper Holloway in London died in 2008. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
Do you recall that name? | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Even the slightest memory could be the missing clue needed in the search for heirs to her estate. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
These and hundreds more estates are still lying unclaimed. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Only new information from you can help millions of pounds get to the rightful heirs. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:46 | |
Vincent McGarry died leaving an estate worth over £150,000. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
Despite his 22 years in the Army, Vincent had a soft side, as his work colleague Cliff Parker remembers. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:06 | |
The ladies, as I said, all come down, bring him cakes and chocolate bars. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
All he'd ever eat for lunch was a chocolate bar | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
and, you know, a drink from the fridge, | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
but they would always come down. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
They knew that if there was anything that they wanted done urgently, they'd bring Vince a chocolate bar | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
and a cup of tea and give him, like, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
a little cuddle and within 10 minutes the job would be done. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
That's how they got round it and Vince loved all the attention. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
He just lapped it up. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Although he loved the attention at work, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
Vincent had no close family to lavish the same attention on him at home | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
and he died without leaving a will. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Fraser and Fraser are trying to track down his heirs by using their contacts in Scotland. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
They know Vincent's mother committed suicide when he was two | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
and Vincent's father, George, subsequently married. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
So, Vincent may have half-brothers and sisters who could inherit. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
But the Scottish agents have a bombshell to drop. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:05 | |
But then there's also a note on the Scottish marriage record that says that in June of 1948 that marriage | 0:27:05 | 0:27:11 | |
was found to be bigamous because George Francis McGarry was already married to a Gwendolyn May Griffiths. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:18 | |
OK. So, if George Francis McGarry, the father of the deceased, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
had children from that marriage, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
then again they would be half-bloods, brothers and sisters of the deceased. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
Bigamy is a surprise find, even for a seasoned heir hunter. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
There was a large increase in bigamy convictions during the Second World War | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
as everyone's ordinary lives were turned upside down. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
Vincent's father, George McGarry, married his first wife, Gwenda, in 1936. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:49 | |
He then met Vincent's mother, Evelyn, and fathered Vincent out of wedlock in 1943. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:55 | |
But George moved on and married again in 1948, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
but as he was still technically married to his first wife, Gwenda, the marriage was bigamous. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
George was convicted and jailed just six months later. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
Could Vincent ever have known about his father's rakish past | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
and did he have brothers and sisters from his father's other marriages? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
The researchers now have two possible branches | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
of the family they need to look into, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Gwenda's and Catherine's, both of whom married George McGarry. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
If they can trace any children these would be Vincent's half-siblings. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
But doing any research on the name McGarry is not easy. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
You have got Mcs, Macs | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 | |
and when they indexed the Mcs and the Macs they decided to chop and change | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
how they were going to do it every few years. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
So, one moment it's the Mcs are in a certain place and then they move | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
and the Mcs are in another place, so they are just harder to find. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
So I hate doing Mcs. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
The Mcs may be difficult, but the researcher's persistence has paid off. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:03 | |
Now, with regards to the bigamous marriage, | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
it would now seem that the wife that, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
in theory his bigamous wife, Catherine, died in 1994 | 0:29:09 | 0:29:14 | |
and from that death there is an informant, a daughter, who in theory | 0:29:14 | 0:29:19 | |
would be a half-sibling of the deceased, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
but they can't readily identify that birth in any obvious location. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
They may have found their first heir to Vincent's estimated £150,000. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
Vincent's father's bigamous second marriage resulted in a daughter, Christine. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:37 | |
Should this be correct we'll have a half-blood sister of the deceased. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
We also have several other areas where we could get more half-blood siblings. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
Now, in our order of entitlement we go from our full-blood siblings to half-blood siblings before | 0:29:46 | 0:29:53 | |
we go to full-blood cousins, so they fit in before cousins so it's quite important we find them. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
We are going to have near kin instead of going back on to the cousins. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
The team found that Christine is alive and married. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
Now, they just need to get hold of her. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
Unfortunately she is not on the phone. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
We would like to talk to her, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:14 | |
so I'm now going to see if we can get in contact with any of her neighbours | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
and then maybe they will be kind enough to get in contact for us. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
As Vincent's half-sister and the one and only potential heir so far, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
Christine could be the key to the team cracking the entire case. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
She's based in the Midlands and so they are sending senior researcher | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
Paul Matthews who is based there to go and knock on her door. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
The office has spent a bit of time researching this | 0:30:39 | 0:30:43 | |
and now think that there is value to the estate. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
They have now located a half-sister in Telford... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
..so I'm on my way up there now. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
We haven't got an appointment, so it's very much go up there and hope that she's at home. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:59 | |
Paul's travels are just beginning, but Ewart's are well underway. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
It's late afternoon and having arrived in Edinburgh | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
he is touching base with the office to find out where he's needed. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
Unfortunately, the only heir they've found is in the Midlands. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
I just knew it. There's nothing happening on this case of McGarry. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
I knew it. Nothing's happening. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Ewart may have had a pointless journey, but in the office | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
they're not wasting any time looking for more half-siblings of Vincent's. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
This is the deceased father's, George... | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
George McGarry, his first marriage. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Well, we're assuming it's his first marriage. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
It might actually be his second or third for all we know, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
but it looks like his first marriage which was in Pembroke, so he certainly got around, this chap. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
In more senses than one! | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
The half-sister the office have already found is about to receive a visit from Paul Matthews. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:57 | |
It's your wife, Christine, that we need to speak to. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
We believe her mum was Catherine and her dad was George Francis McGarry, was that right? | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Could you spare us a few minutes? | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Well, she's not in, she's at work. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
Yeah, if we can just spend a bit of time, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
just find a few things off yourself. OK, thank you. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
I shall put you onto the gentleman from Fraser and Fraser, OK? | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
Because I don't want to be uncertain about, you know, answers I'm giving him. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:30 | |
I don't know whether it's a scam yet or not, no. I don't know. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
No, it's not. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
-OK? -No, it's not a scam. Paul Matthews, pleased to speak to you. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
What time do you get home from work? | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Five-ish. Well, I'll speak to the office. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
If they want me to come back later on then I'll do that as well. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
But I'll let your husband know either way. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Christine is still at work so the team will have to wait until they sign up their first beneficiary | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
but in the meantime, the researchers have made an exciting discovery. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
There's a new heir. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Ann is another half-sister of Vincent from his father's first marriage, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
but with the day drawing to a close will they be able to speak to her in time? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
I've found Ann McGarry. She's married an Alcock. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
She married him at age 17. We've got the address. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
She's on the phone, so we're going to give her a call. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
Tony is ready for home, but this call is too important to put off. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
If Ann is an heir, she might be able to put him in touch with more. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:38 | |
You've got two sisters? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
Well, right. OK. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
Well, that's of interest because clearly they might well be involved in all this as well, then. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:48 | |
Ann has two older sisters, Margaret and Nesta. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
In just one call the number of heirs has doubled. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
Vincent had four half-sisters. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
Could I ask you what Nesta's family name is now? | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Yeah, OK. Yeah, OK. Thanks ever so much, indeed. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
Tony may have been half-way out the door, but staying for that extra call paid off. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
Now it's up to the travelling heir hunters to sign up the heirs and earn the company's commission. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:21 | |
Vincent's half-sister Christine is back from work. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
Paul is trying to tactfully find out | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
if she knew anything about her father's unorthodox wedding to her mother. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
They married at home. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
-Oh, right. -You can do that, or you could do that, in Scotland, apparently. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:39 | |
If it was all a bit dodgy, the minister would come to the house and do it. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
-Well, it was a bit dodgy. -Well, it seems to have been. I was certainly... | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
I was born four months later, so that in itself would be dodgy. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
But the office seem to think that when he married your mum in January 1948 that it was bigamous. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:59 | |
Well, I had come to that conclusion from something my mother once said | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
because I had been asking her, "Why don't I have a father?" | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
And she said, "Well, he was married before," | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
but she never actually said any more than that. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
He had another relationship where he didn't get married | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
and produced another child. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
-My mother did say he could charm the birds out of the trees. -Well, yes. -You can see that he did. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
It sounds like that. So, you have got half-blood relatives out there. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
Well, I always thought that I probably did. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
I had this suspicion that there were other children somewhere. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
In one meeting, Christine has gone from being an only child | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
to discovering that she had a half-brother | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
and still has three half-sisters she never knew about. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
It would be good to know a bit more about this family tree of ours. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
It's just a blank on that side. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
I've got the names of my father, his parents, | 0:35:55 | 0:36:00 | |
a village in Ireland and that's it. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
That's all I know. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
But obviously there are a lot more people around. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
So, actually from being orphan Annie with no family, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
then suddenly I've got family who I'd love to meet. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
The meeting has been a success all round. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
Paul has signed up an heir so will get a percentage of her claim, and Christine has found a new family | 0:36:21 | 0:36:27 | |
who she's keen to get to know, | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
something her half-brother Vincent never got the chance to do before he died. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
It's a new day in Portsmouth. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
Senior researcher David Hadley has arrived at Vincent's half-sister Margaret's house. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:48 | |
Margaret is the eldest of the three sisters from Vincent's father's first marriage. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
Your father also, after he left your mother, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
-had a bigamous marriage. -Yes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Yes, I did know about that. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
That was to a Catherine Faulkner Eggo | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
and that also produced a child, as well. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
-Which is this Christine. -Which is Christine. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
-Yeah, so you've got Christine who is a half-sister. -Yeah. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:19 | |
And you had the deceased, Vincent. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Who was a half-brother. How nice. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
David signs Margaret up. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
She is overwhelmed by the news of the last 24 hours. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:31 | |
It's a bit of a shock, really. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
Something that you think only happens to someone else. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
No idea whatsoever about anything ever like that happening in my life and... | 0:37:38 | 0:37:46 | |
Well, we'll just wait and see what all the conclusion will be. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:51 | |
The heir hunters come across the whole gamut of human behaviour | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
in their job, but even for them this one has been an unusual case. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:59 | |
It looks like we have got four beneficiaries on this, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
all of them half-blood relations to the deceased, half-blood siblings, and all of them through the father. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
And the father's lived... It sounds like he's lived quite a life, really. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
His children are all over the place, from three different women. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Two weeks later, the grown-up children | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
of two of these different women are preparing to meet for the first time. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Christine, who was the child of Vincent's father's second marriage, is on her way to see | 0:38:27 | 0:38:32 | |
Margaret, Nesta and Ann, who are sisters from his first. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
I don't know how I feel today. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
Part of me is very, very nervous, part of me is very excited | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
and part of me just doesn't believe any of this is happening. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
Margaret, Nesta and Ann are trying to predict what their new half-sister will be like. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
I'm curious to know if she looks like us. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
-I bet she does. Because I suspect she's got... -It might be her mother's side. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
There must be a bit of that Irish blood in her, let's put it that way. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
She'll be feisty like us! | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
Well, we've got a bit of Welsh and Irish, I mean, so... | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
She has got Scots and Irish. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:12 | |
-Oh. We're all Celts. -Yeah. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
You're nothing like I imagined you to be! | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
-I can't even guess which of you is which. -I'm Nesta. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
Yes, I recognise your voice. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
Good. Oh, it's nice to see... This is Margaret, she's the eldest. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
-Margaret from Portsmouth? -Yes. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
-Don't be nervous. -Nervous? That doesn't begin to describe it. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
I was... I'm Ann. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
-I was... -The youngest. -The baby. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
-This kind of makes me the baby! -Oh, she got dressed up and we didn't. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
Yes. It must be very daunting. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
Well, the whole thing was such a surprise, but yes, I think it's lovely. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:01 | |
-It is. It is. Come sit down. -I am so excited by the whole thing. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
You get to a point in your life | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
-where you don't think that anything like this would ever happen to you. -Well, no. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
I had absolutely no idea that... | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
I had thought occasionally over the years, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
"I'm sure there might be some family somewhere." | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
I've never gave it a thought. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
Well, having a family I suppose you don't. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
We've just been talking about that. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
We knew of you, but over the last, what 10, 20 years? | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
-It goes out of your mind. -Although the family are happy to have found each other, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
sadly they'll never meet their half-brother Vincent who is the reason they are here. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:43 | |
But I am sorry for Vincent that nobody ever seems to have known anything about him. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
I wonder if he knew anything about his background though, really. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:52 | |
I mean, with his mother having committed suicide. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
And this is from his friends that he served with in the Army and it said, | 0:40:56 | 0:41:03 | |
"Vince was a selfless man who went through his life with all his challenges, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:11 | |
"helping others and committing fully to whatever job he was engaged in. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
"He was chivalrous with an afflatus attitude and a true gentleman. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
"He was a great man, a crazy wonderful genius. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:27 | |
"Vince, God rest your soul. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
"A decent night's sleep at last, my friend. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
"Enjoy, as I hear the skiing and cycling is pretty good up there, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:38 | |
"as this, I'm sure you know, is not the end. Thank you." | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
That's it. That's quite sad that. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
-It's really... It's even more sad that we didn't know such a nice-sounding person. -Yes. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
The sisters have made a good start on the lifetime of news they have got to catch up with. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:59 | |
And I don't know why I was nervous. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
A really stupid thing to have felt. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
But now I am really pleased that I came and met them. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:08 | |
-I'm definitely going to keep in touch. -It has been very nice. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
I thoroughly enjoyed it and it's nice to get together as three sisters, as we don't very often, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:18 | |
and to have the fourth one join is an extra bonus, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
and I've thoroughly enjoyed myself, thank you. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
I didn't expect her to look like she looked, or how she looks I should say, but brilliant! | 0:42:25 | 0:42:31 | |
I still think she's part of the family. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
Sadly, Vincent, a man who made the Army his family, will never know about his four half-sisters. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:41 | |
However, his legacy has not only provided them with a windfall, but has also brought them together. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:48 | |
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