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Every year, thousands of people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives come forward, their estates go to the Government.

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Keeping this money in the family is a job for the Heir Hunters.

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-On today's programme, the Heir Hunters grapple with the unknown...

-I don't like a mystery.

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..as they investigate a woman who can speak to spirits beyond the grave.

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You cannot contact the dead, they have to contact you.

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It's like a telephone line and, with Gladys, it was a very clear telephone line.

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And in the quest for heirs, they uncover a heartbreaking story

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of a loss of life that affected not just a family, but a whole nation.

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It was just a tragedy, and other families were the same.

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They were just wiped out with this.

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Plus, how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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In the UK, approximately two-thirds of people don't have a will.

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If they die without having made one and with no obvious heir, then their money goes to the Government.

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Last year, the Treasury pocketed a staggering £18 million in unclaimed estates.

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That's where the Heir Hunters step in.

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I'm trying to get to speak to Lillian from number 146.

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There are over 30 companies whose business it is

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to trace the rightful heirs to this money and help them claim it back.

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Fraser & Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain.

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It's run by Andrew, Charles and Neil Fraser.

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They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs.

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In the last ten years alone, they have enabled over 50,000 heirs to claim over £100 million.

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It's 7am at Fraser & Fraser's central-London office

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and the Treasury has just published its weekly list of unclaimed estates.

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None of the estates is listed with their values, so the first

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and most important job is to identify the ones worth the most

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because they'll bring in the highest commission but, this morning, boss Neil Fraser isn't happy.

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It's looking like slim pickings.

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Although we've started off looking at 14 cases today,

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it doesn't look like we've got any with any value at the moment,

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which is a bit unfortunate, so we're now starting to look at our secondary sort of cases -

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the small low-value stuff - and trying to send people out

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and utilise the staff we've got at the moment.

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Although it looks busy, everyone's working on very low-value things.

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The delay is frustrating for the whole team.

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As well as all the staff in the office, there's also a band of travelling Heir Hunters

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like Dave Mansell, who are based all over the country and poised to go wherever the hunt takes them.

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Although every estate that appears on the Treasury's list should be worth at least £5,000,

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Frasers need to be pretty sure that a case is worth a lot more than that

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before they throw all their resources at it,

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so until they find one, Dave will just have to bide his time and wait.

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Finally, one entry on the list does catch manager Bob's eye -

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the case of Gladys Willerton.

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He thinks it looks like it could have value, so he goes ahead and starts to investigate.

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Gladys passed away in August 2008 at Gwendolen Lodge Nursing Home in Leicester.

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She was a widow and didn't have any children.

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Sadly, Gladys didn't leave a will, and unless heirs can be found

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to her estate, her money will go to the Government.

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The first piece of information Bob needs is Gladys's date of birth.

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That will lead him to her birth certificate, which will tell him where she was born

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and her parents' names, giving him a good place to start in the search for living family.

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We've got two possible births there, one in Burnley.

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This is the most likely cos she's supposed to be born in Lancashire, as opposed to Liverpool.

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It's still only 8am, so while he's waiting

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for the register offices to open, Bob's trying to find out Gladys's date of birth by other means.

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He calls the nursing home where she died

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and speaks to the manager, who remembers her and can help his investigation.

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How long was she with you for?

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February in '08.

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Do you have a note of her date of birth on file,

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and her maiden name if you've got that as well?

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The other question, if I can ask you, about Gladys - as we're a business,

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we need to know that it's going to be worth our while.

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Are you aware of whether she had property or anything like that?

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OK, and you're not aware of any money in bank accounts or anything like that, no?

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At least now he's got something to go on, but from what he's hearing,

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it doesn't sound like Gladys left much money.

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But then Bob does get some surprising news.

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According to the nursing home, Gladys did have children after all, four of them.

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Right, do you know the details of the children?

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Oh, right. Oh, I see. No information at all.

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I just wonder how that information came about because, as I say,

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from the public records, we can't find any trace of any births,

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particularly from her marriage to Mr Willerton.

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It could be of course that she had illegitimate children or adopted children.

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It seems that Gladys's life was full of mystery.

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If she did have children, then they would be the joint heirs to her estate,

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but if not, then the team will have to look further back in her family tree.

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According to the law, they can go back as far

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as the deceased's grandparents, before then tracing their line forward to find any heirs.

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As I noticed the people around, so the sign stopped.

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Not much is known about Gladys's early years, but her adult life in Leicester was centred around

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her membership of the Leicester Progressive Spiritualist Church.

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In the early 1980s, Gladys was president of the church,

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leading the congregation and even officiating at weddings.

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The current president, Marion, was married by her

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and has fond memories of Gladys as a forceful member of the church community.

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We all knew her as Whacker Willerton.

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We knew Gladys as Whacker Willerton

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because she could be quite physical at times.

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If there was somebody misbehaving in the service, she would think nothing

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of picking up a hymn book and lobbing it across the room

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to call them to attention.

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There were two sides to Gladys - the tough side and the very sensitive side.

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She was very devoted to the church, to the people that came here.

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The Spiritualist Movement came to prominence in America in the 1850s

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when two sisters, Margaretta and Catherine Fox,

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claimed to have made contact with a spirit at their home in New York State.

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With high rates of infant mortality at that time,

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the idea of communicating with dead loved ones was very appealing

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and, soon, groups of people were meeting to conduct seances.

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In her own church, Gladys often presided over these meetings

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and was recognised as a very gifted medium and clairvoyant.

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You cannot contact the dead.

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That's not possible.

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They have to contact you.

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It's like a telephone line and, with Gladys, it was a very clear telephone line.

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Whatever her gifts, it seemed that Gladys was loved and trusted

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by her friends and fellow church members.

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When the chips were down, you could rely on Gladys.

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You know, she was there for the people that came to the church and for her friends.

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Indeed she was.

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Back in the office, there's a bit of a buzz as more details of Gladys's life have emerged.

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Gladys was born in Burnley in 1922.

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Her parents were Susannah Rushton and Thomas A Woods,

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and she had a sister Amy who died in infancy.

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The team have also confirmed that Gladys married an Arthur Willerton in 1946.

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Only seven years after their marriage, disaster struck.

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On Coronation Day in 1953, Arthur was seriously injured in a motorbike accident,

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and overnight, Gladys became the family breadwinner

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and Arthur's carer until his death 30 years later.

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Bye.

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Research has turned up a copy of Arthur's will,

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which contains some very interesting information.

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I've established that the husband of the deceased died in 1983

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and he left £25,000 to the deceased.

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Now, £25,000 25 years ago...

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may perhaps mean that there is a value on the estate.

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We're hoping sort of £40,000 to £50,000.

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This is good news for the Heir Hunters, and Bob has made another important break-through.

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He managed to trace Arthur's sister and, after speaking to her

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on the phone, he's solved the mystery of whether or not Gladys had any children.

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She'd told the workers at the care home that she had four -

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two boys and two girls - but there were no records to confirm this.

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This lady was obviously a sister to the deceased's husband.

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She has informed me that the deceased had no children, definitely had no children.

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She had five or six miscarriages, but certainly no children,

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so we can now concentrate on going back through the mother's and father's family.

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In the spiritualist religion, we believe that,

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when a woman has a miscarriage, the child continues to grow in the world of spirit.

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I do know that, when questioned about her children,

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she totally closed up.

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She wouldn't say anything.

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It's the end of the day. It's almost my bed-time, actually.

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No, I think now there's not a lot more I can do.

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It's been a frustratingly slow day for the Heir Hunters.

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Bogged down with wrong turns and blind alleys, will tomorrow shed new light on this case?

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-Good morning.

-Later in the show, the hunt is on for the heirs

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-to Gladys Willerton's estate, and now the leads are coming thick and fast.

-We've got him.

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Some cases stand out more than others, and when they came across the estate of Gillian Edwards,

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the Heir Hunters were about to uncover an incredible story of hardship and family tragedy.

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Gillian died on the 15th of August 2008 on the Isle of Wight,

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leaving an estate worth £280,000, which included her house on the island.

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Her neighbour Judy remembered her as a good friend and fellow dog-lover.

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We moved here a couple of years ago and she became quite friendly

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quite quickly, mainly through our two dogs, George and Wellington.

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Everyone knew of Gillian but, at the same time, I think she was also

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quite a private person, listening to what other people have said.

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When she was a little bit younger, she used to dress up quite...

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quite fancy, I think. She'd put lots of jewellery on

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and I think she was quite the lady.

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I used to go round there every day.

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I wasn't really aware of any other family.

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There was pictures in there, but I don't know who they were.

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It seemed clear that if Gillian had any surviving blood relations,

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she wasn't in touch with them when she died,

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and as she didn't leave a will, her £280,000 legacy

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was on the verge of going straight to the Government.

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Veteran heir hunter Dave Pacifico has seen his fair share of high-value estates,

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but even by his standards, £280,000 was a lot of money to lie unclaimed.

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The case, though, didn't get off to a good start.

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He couldn't find any record of a Gillian Violet Edwards.

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Although she was known as Gillian Violet, she was actually born

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as Violet Gillian, so there's a slight variation on her name,

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but nonetheless, we managed to identify a birth fairly early on

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and, from that, we were able to start identifying other members of her family.

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Once they had her birth certificate, they could now identify Gillian

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by her real given name of Violet Gillian Kemp.

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She was born in Hammersley Street in Bedworth, Warwickshire, in 1933.

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The family had recently moved from Mansfield into a brand-new

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council house there to make a better life for themselves,

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while her father Arthur, a coal miner, is believed to have worked in the nearby Newdigate colliery.

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A mining family moving here from where they'd been, would be delighted

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because it would be a two or three-bedroomed house

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with proper foundations, and a bathroom and toilet.

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Even so, for a family of five, six, seven children, it would still have

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been a pretty tight squeeze, but a huge improvement on what they had before that.

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The children lived and played together in the street,

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and were constantly in and out of each other's houses.

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Violet's next-door neighbour and childhood friend, Ennis Sparrow, still lives in the same house today.

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She had a photograph of Violet, taken when they were young girls on a Sunday-school outing.

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This was a Whit walk,

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and I think maybe Violet Kemp would be about 16, something like that.

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Other Sunday schools, they all congregated

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and the churches all walked together, and it was a nice experience.

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We used to love it, really looked forward to it every year, you know.

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But that's the only one I've got of Violet, the only one I've ever had, I think.

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We didn't have our photographs taken that often - on special occasions.

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And then you lose touch because they move away.

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I was sad to hear she'd died.

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For Violet Kemp and her friends, life as a teenager

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in a Midlands mining town was very far removed from what it is today.

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I think, for a modern generation, to step back would be a huge culture shock.

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Televisions and iPods and all these other things that youngsters take for granted now did not exist,

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and life was hard and work was hard, and hours were long and wages were low,

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and employment was hazardous,

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so there were all sorts of possible areas for disaster, really.

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Families lived on the edge very often.

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The Newdigate colliery was notorious for its harsh conditions.

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Ex-miners Tony Lloyd and Ken Tullis have lived in Bedworth

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for over 50 years, and remember the hardships all too well.

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Don't forget, men were still digging the coal out with picks and shovels

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and what you had to was A - get the coal out

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and then girder your own...to keep the roof up.

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And you know, any danger of any slippage or anything, you really had to be careful.

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One slip of concentration when you were on these heavy jobs

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and these accidents can happen.

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Newdigate itself was finally shut down in 1982 as the coal industry began to contract.

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Every trace of the colliery has since disappeared,

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but for the miners themselves, old memories die hard.

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It really is part of our heritage, and we never, never forget it.

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We mix with miners, you talk mining, you know, if you have a pint

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with anybody in the club, so it's always with us.

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Memories.

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Stories from close communities are very helpful to the Heir Hunters' investigations.

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By now, they had established Violet's roots in Bedworth, but before exploring

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her family tree any further, they had to rule out the possibility of her having any family of her own.

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Early on in our research, we need to identify

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who she was married to and whether or not there was more than one marriage, just to make sure

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there's no really close family - in other words, confirming she had no children herself.

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We identified that, although she died as Edwards,

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she was actually first married to somebody called Bernard Holmes.

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In fact, Violet was married three times, but she never had any children.

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She died a widow, so there's no surviving husband.

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We then identify the next closest family. Now, bearing in mind

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her parents would have been long since deceased,

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we were looking at the brothers and sisters.

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Tracking down large extended families and multiple heirs

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is in all in a day's work for the Heir Hunters,

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but Dave wasn't prepared for what he discovered when he started to research Violet's siblings.

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We identified the names and years of birth of her brothers

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and sisters, and suddenly realised she came from a large family.

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She had eleven brothers and sisters.

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A family as large as this would present a huge challenge for the Heir Hunters investigating the case,

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but they couldn't have guessed the tragic events that they were about to uncover.

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For every case that is solved, there are still thousands that remain a mystery.

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Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country

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are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds,

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the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

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Today, we've got two cases Heir Hunters have so far failed to solve. Could you be the key?

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Could you be in line for a pay-out?

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Sidney George Alfred Dancey died in Bath on the 27th of July 2006.

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Was Sidney a neighbour or work colleague?

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Could you even be related to him and entitled to his legacy?

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James Colin Joss passed away on the 9th of October 2006 in Leicester.

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So far, every attempt to find his rightful heir has failed.

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If no relatives can be found, his money will go to the Government, but could it be meant for you?

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If the names George Dancey or James Joss mean anything to you

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or someone you know, you could have a fortune coming your way.

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-Still to come on the show...

-I want that marriage and then

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I want to do an issue search from that marriage to September 1911.

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The team are closing in on the heirs to what they hope

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will be a £50,000 estate left by spiritualist Gladys Willerton.

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Back on the Violet Kemp case, Dave had discovered that she was

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one of 12 children, which was a huge family even by the standards of the day.

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Arthur and Elsie Kemp had seven sons and five daughters.

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Three of them - Walter, Thomas and Phyllis - had died in infancy,

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a tragic but all too common occurrence at that time.

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No sooner had the team confirmed the number of siblings that Violet grew up with when they came across

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some new and disturbing evidence - three more death certificates for Violet's sisters, Rose and Evelyn,

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and her brother Kenneth, who all died within a year of each other when they were young adults.

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We subsequently found out from a member of the family

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that the cause of death for these people that died in their teens was tuberculosis.

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In the 1940s, Britain was in the grip of a TB epidemic so highly contagious

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that it ripped through close-knit working communities, killing one out of every two people infected.

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In Bedworth, the Kemp children contracted pulmonary TB, the most common strain of the disease.

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This is the sort of X-ray that the persons who died

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with pulmonary tuberculosis would have had, who died in the 1940s.

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Professor Peter Ormerod is the president of the British Thoracic Society

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and has made a lifelong study of TB.

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TB is a bacterial infection and it's passed by person-to-person spread.

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Somebody with lung TB who's coughing out TB germs in the phlegm

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will have droplets in the air that you can't see which will contain TB bacteria and those are inhaled.

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If some other people inhale those bacteria, they will get infected, and some of the people

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who are infected will go on and get disease and be ill.

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You usually need fairly prolonged exposure to catch tuberculosis, and if you're living in a house

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with somebody seven days a week, that's prolonged exposure.

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Out of the surviving nine Kemp children, six of them contracted TB.

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Jean Kemp, widow of Violet's brother Stan, remembers hearing about the family members affected.

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They told me that there was a big thing with TB in the family

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and a fair few of them contracted it, including my late husband.

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I know Violet had to go to Hertford Hill for treatment.

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Hertford Hill sanitorium in Warwickshire

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was one of the many facilities that housed some of the 50,000 people that contracted TB every year.

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Violet and other TB sufferers were sent to sanitoria

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to be treated with a strict regime of bed rest and fresh air

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to rest their damaged lungs and give them a chance to fight the disease.

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Now, this is me in all my glory.

0:22:540:22:56

This must've been taken late in 1948 or early 1949...

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Like Violet, Herbert Williams

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was only a teenager when he contracted TB and was sent to a Welsh sanitorium.

0:23:030:23:09

The fresh air was fulsome, was more than adequate,

0:23:090:23:14

because they had French windows in the ward I was in.

0:23:140:23:18

They were always flung open, night and day.

0:23:180:23:21

We had red bed jackets to wear, but it wasn't much help with the windows open all the time

0:23:210:23:27

and the freezing cold of a Brecon Beacons winter.

0:23:270:23:29

For some patients, the only hope of survival was to undergo a horrific treatment

0:23:290:23:35

known as collapse therapy, where the lung was forcibly collapsed to deprive the TB bacteria of oxygen.

0:23:350:23:41

In the most agonising and dangerous of these procedures,

0:23:410:23:45

surgeons would break or remove up to eight of the patient's ribs.

0:23:450:23:49

It's a bit like if you imagine taking a...when you take half a chicken, if you break all the ribs

0:23:490:23:54

off the breastbone and push on, the whole thing collapses in, and that's similar to what happened there.

0:23:540:24:01

Violet's brothers Stan and Arthur both underwent collapse therapy,

0:24:020:24:07

but the agonies of TB did not stop there.

0:24:070:24:10

Stan was affected by the disease for the rest of his life.

0:24:100:24:14

He had a big scar on his back

0:24:160:24:20

that sort of started

0:24:200:24:22

round by the rib cage, went round the back,

0:24:220:24:26

and it ended up at the top of the shoulder.

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And in the summer, he would never take his clothes off.

0:24:290:24:35

He was very self-conscious about this scar and he said people would know

0:24:350:24:40

what he'd had as a child, and I think he was ashamed to a degree.

0:24:400:24:45

Sadly for Stan and other survivors who suffered from the stigma

0:24:450:24:50

of having had TB, there was escape from this cruel and misguided prejudice.

0:24:500:24:56

If I'd have told my step-father that Stan had had TB,

0:24:560:25:02

he would've been banned from the home.

0:25:020:25:05

Like Violet, Stan and Arthur eventually recovered.

0:25:050:25:09

Their sister Rose, who died in Hertford Hill,

0:25:090:25:12

and Evelyn and Kenneth, who died at home in Bedworth, were not so lucky.

0:25:120:25:16

TB had decimated the Kemp family.

0:25:160:25:20

It was just a tragedy, and other families were the same.

0:25:200:25:25

They were just wiped out with this.

0:25:250:25:27

It seemed that, by the time she died, Violet had left any trace

0:25:300:25:35

of her difficult childhood and humble beginnings far behind her.

0:25:350:25:39

At her death, Violet was a very wealthy woman,

0:25:390:25:42

but she had also completely lost touch with her family, so who stood to inherit her £280,000 estate?

0:25:420:25:50

We knew almost certainly there had to be some close kin still alive.

0:25:530:25:57

It would've been very unusual if all the eleven had died without children,

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and we suspected maybe a very large number of nephews and nieces.

0:26:020:26:07

When estates are divided up between siblings, the money is split equally between them.

0:26:070:26:14

Any descendants of deceased siblings will then carve up their father or mother's share.

0:26:140:26:18

In Violet's case, the estate was split four ways.

0:26:190:26:23

Half went to her two siblings, a quarter was split between her

0:26:230:26:27

brother Alfred's three children, and the final quarter went to the descendants of her brother Stan.

0:26:270:26:33

That was your dad many years ago, before I even knew him.

0:26:380:26:42

Stan and Jean's daughter Jane was amazed when she heard

0:26:420:26:46

she was going to inherit money from an aunt she barely knew.

0:26:460:26:49

I didn't really know what to think at the time.

0:26:490:26:52

It was just a bit of a shock.

0:26:520:26:54

I met her at my dad's funeral.

0:26:540:26:56

She asked me who I was, and I told her that I was Stan's daughter.

0:26:560:27:00

I've heard stories about her, but I didn't know her,

0:27:000:27:04

so I was just surprised to be getting any cash from it, really.

0:27:040:27:09

I wanted to pay my mortgage off with whatever I get.

0:27:090:27:12

It'll make me better off!

0:27:120:27:14

I'll have some money to spend on myself for a change.

0:27:140:27:18

Jane also had a sister Susan, who sadly passed away when she was only 33, leaving two children,

0:27:180:27:25

Adam and Lauren, the final two heirs to Violet's legacy.

0:27:250:27:30

Heir-hunter David Pacifico remembers the moment when he first contacted the family.

0:27:300:27:36

I felt better that we could tell them some good news,

0:27:360:27:39

but it was awful to find out, speaking to the family,

0:27:390:27:43

that they'd a traumatic loss with the death of their mother at a very, very young age.

0:27:430:27:48

How many did I do?

0:27:540:27:56

Both Adam and Lauren are legally classified as minors,

0:27:560:28:00

so all contact has been through their father Trevor.

0:28:000:28:03

I was told by my dad that my great-aunt

0:28:030:28:08

Violet

0:28:080:28:10

had passed away and some of the money that she'd left had been divided by the blood relatives.

0:28:100:28:18

It was shocking,

0:28:180:28:21

just it appearing out of the blue without knowing who she is.

0:28:210:28:26

Hearing about their inheritance made the children think about

0:28:280:28:32

what life was like for their great-aunt and her family.

0:28:320:28:36

I think it would be quite different for Violet and her brothers and sisters

0:28:360:28:40

cos they wouldn't be able to eat a lot of food and do what we do

0:28:400:28:44

and go out, cos they'd have to be in when the bombs came and stuff.

0:28:440:28:49

I felt as if I wanted to find out more about her...

0:28:490:28:52

..and where the Isles of Wight is.

0:28:540:28:58

For Violet's great-niece and great-nephew, their share of the £280,000

0:28:580:29:03

inheritance is an opportunity that won't be going to waste.

0:29:030:29:08

I've restricted them to just having £100 each to spend on they want, and then put the

0:29:090:29:16

rest of the money away so they can use it in the future for something more beneficial in their lives.

0:29:160:29:22

We'll never know why Violet didn't leave a will but,

0:29:240:29:27

thanks to the Heir Hunters' successful investigations,

0:29:270:29:30

her money will now go on to benefit future generations.

0:29:300:29:34

Fraser & Fraser have been investigating the case of Gladys Willerton,

0:29:430:29:49

a gifted medium and clairvoyant who died aged 86.

0:29:490:29:53

After initial doubts that her estate would be worth very much, the team uncovered a bequest

0:29:530:29:57

from her late husband, which means it could be worth a lot more.

0:29:570:30:00

We're hoping sort of £40,000 to £50,000.

0:30:000:30:03

Now that the case looks like being more valuable,

0:30:030:30:06

Frasers have decided to unleash one of their travelling Heir Hunters to help speed up the investigation.

0:30:060:30:13

Gladys's family were all based in Burnley

0:30:160:30:19

so, as Dave Mansell is already in the area,

0:30:190:30:21

he's heading over to Preston register office to gather any information he can find.

0:30:210:30:26

-Morning.

-Back in the office, manager Frances Brett has taken over the investigation.

0:30:300:30:35

Hi, Alan, I understand you've got this Willerton job.

0:30:350:30:39

And the first thing she does

0:30:390:30:41

is get up to speed on the latest developments from her colleague Alan, who'll be working with her.

0:30:410:30:47

A routine check of the 1911 census has revealed a tantalising fact

0:30:470:30:53

that could provide the breakthrough that the team so badly needs.

0:30:530:30:56

It seems that Gladys's mother Susannah

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was married to a John Thomas Kay and that they had a child.

0:31:000:31:04

If Dave can find a record for this child, then the Heir Hunters will have found a half-sister or brother

0:31:050:31:10

for Gladys and the new lead that they've been looking for.

0:31:100:31:15

It will be a lot easier to follow up a child born

0:31:150:31:21

between 1907 and 1911

0:31:210:31:26

rather than have to go back to the 1870s,

0:31:260:31:30

'80s and '90s,

0:31:300:31:32

so fingers crossed.

0:31:320:31:35

With such a strong lead to pursue, the team is hoping that Dave can get some results fast.

0:31:350:31:41

Sunny Preston.

0:31:410:31:43

One of the things that can make or break a case is quick access to official records.

0:31:430:31:48

Dave has been working for Frasers for many years

0:31:480:31:51

and he's on very good terms with the ladies in the Preston register office.

0:31:510:31:54

This couple, John T Kay and Susannah Rushton, married in 1907 in Burnley,

0:31:570:32:03

so I want that marriage and then I want to do an issue search from that marriage to September 1911.

0:32:030:32:07

-Right. So any particular district?

-No, all districts.

-Right.

0:32:070:32:11

Dave is looking for every child with the surname Kay who was born

0:32:110:32:16

in the area, but with a relatively common surname like that, it can be a long and arduous process.

0:32:160:32:23

These index books have been going for some considerable time because that's how they end up.

0:32:230:32:28

Once he's got a list of names, he can then access the birth certificates and see if the parents'

0:32:280:32:34

names match those of Gladys's mother and her first husband.

0:32:340:32:37

That's the first district I've done.

0:32:370:32:39

There's 29 on there that need verified. That's the first district!

0:32:390:32:44

He's found around 70 possible births, but so far no-one that could be Susannah's son.

0:32:440:32:51

The 1911 census that they've got access to in the London office

0:32:510:32:54

is not always 100 per cent reliable, so Dave needs to find

0:32:540:32:58

a birth certificate to prove a child did exist and keep the investigation alive.

0:32:580:33:04

Well, if there's no children, the likelihood that there are any descendants from which heirs...

0:33:040:33:09

would result would seem slim.

0:33:090:33:12

-There you go.

-Finally, he gets the news he's been hoping for.

0:33:120:33:17

-Thank you.

-Milton. Posh name.

0:33:170:33:19

It is a posh name, isn't it? Milton Kay.

0:33:190:33:22

-Milton Kay.

-That's great.

0:33:220:33:24

Dave has been able to prove that Gladys did have an elder

0:33:240:33:28

half-brother called Milton Kay, who was born in 1908.

0:33:280:33:32

When his father died and his mother married again, it's likely that 12-year-old Milton moved with her.

0:33:320:33:38

Two years later, Gladys was born.

0:33:380:33:42

There are no photos of the two of them from their childhood, but could they have grown up together?

0:33:420:33:47

Yeah?

0:33:580:33:59

Back in London, the team has been working hard as well,

0:33:590:34:03

and they've also come across the name Milton.

0:34:030:34:06

-PHONE RINGS

-Here's Dave. Hi, there.

0:34:060:34:10

Have you? Is it called Milton? Do you know,

0:34:100:34:13

I was... So hot off the...

0:34:130:34:16

I was just literally this second got off the phone to Alan...

0:34:160:34:20

Frances tells Dave that Alan has found Gladys's mother's

0:34:200:34:24

death certificate and her son Milton Kay is listed as the informant.

0:34:240:34:28

We've got him, and he's just going back inside now to order a copy of his death.

0:34:280:34:33

As Milton was 46 when his mother died, it's very probable

0:34:330:34:38

that he too is dead, but Frances is keen to see who the informant was on HIS death certificate.

0:34:380:34:45

Let's hope the informant is a child, and that that child's still alive.

0:34:450:34:52

It's not long before Dave has got his hands on the proof.

0:34:520:34:57

Right, Milton Kay, a textile warper, retired.

0:34:570:35:02

-Textile warper?

-Yeah.

-You've got your warp and your weft, haven't you?

0:35:020:35:07

Yeah. Well, this one was a warper.

0:35:070:35:09

-OK.

-And the informant was son Donald Hamilton Kay who was present at the death.

0:35:090:35:15

The pieces are falling into place.

0:35:150:35:18

Milton Kay was married to Violet Heseltine

0:35:180:35:22

and they had a son Donald, born in 1930, who would've been Gladys's half-nephew.

0:35:220:35:27

That means that Donald was only eight years younger than Gladys.

0:35:270:35:33

Could they have known each other?

0:35:330:35:35

Sadly, a quick search reveals that Donald passed away in 1984,

0:35:350:35:40

but the team has discovered that he did get married to Joan, and here they uncover good news...

0:35:400:35:46

-Hi, there.

-..which Fran is quick to pass on to Dave.

0:35:460:35:49

Joan - she's still alive.

0:35:490:35:52

Joan won't be eligible to inherit because she's not a blood relative,

0:35:520:35:56

but then comes the news they've all been waiting for.

0:35:560:35:59

They have two children, Margaret J Kay.

0:35:590:36:04

There is another child, Richard M Kay.

0:36:040:36:08

Bingo! The Heir Hunters have found their heirs, but they still don't know

0:36:080:36:13

where Richard and Margaret live.

0:36:130:36:15

However, Frances does have an address for Joan, their mother.

0:36:150:36:19

Dave wasn't far away, so he hot-foots it over there.

0:36:190:36:22

Hi, sorry to bother you. Are you Joan Kay?

0:36:220:36:25

Hi, my name's David Mansell. I work for a firm of probate researchers by the name of Fraser & Fraser.

0:36:250:36:30

What's happened is, a member of the family

0:36:300:36:34

has died intestate,

0:36:340:36:37

and your daughter Margaret and your son Richard will be heirs to the estate.

0:36:370:36:42

-Really?

-Yeah.

0:36:420:36:44

Now, did Margaret marry Ian Rumson?

0:36:440:36:47

-Yes.

-Where is she? Where does she live?

0:36:470:36:49

-She lives in Burnley.

-Does she?

-Yes.

0:36:490:36:52

Have you got an address?

0:36:520:36:55

Does your son Richard work?

0:36:550:36:57

Richard works at Otham, yes.

0:36:570:36:59

Dave's finally cracked his case. He can now contact the heirs in person,

0:36:590:37:04

and hopefully help them to submit a claim for their inheritance.

0:37:040:37:07

-I've inherited quite a...

-Ohh!

0:37:090:37:12

It turns out that Joan has been working on the family tree herself,

0:37:120:37:17

and she offers to show Dave some old papers.

0:37:170:37:21

Can I look at that piece of paper?

0:37:210:37:23

-Thank you.

-I've been trying to fathom out from that.

0:37:230:37:26

It lists all the family members who attended Gladys's mother's funeral.

0:37:260:37:30

Right, let's make a note of this.

0:37:300:37:33

Most of the names have already been checked out,

0:37:330:37:36

but a couple of unfamiliar ones are troubling Dave.

0:37:360:37:39

Who are Rupert and Margaret?

0:37:390:37:41

Could they be a missing half-sister or brother to Gladys?

0:37:430:37:47

Thanks very much.

0:37:490:37:51

Before they can settle the case, the Heir Hunters need to be certain

0:37:510:37:54

that they've not missed any close kin.

0:37:540:37:56

What we've read is a cut-out from the newspaper, and it's very, very confusing.

0:37:590:38:04

This new development has left Frances feeling uneasy.

0:38:040:38:08

I don't like a mystery.

0:38:080:38:10

-Is her surname Rupert?

-No.

0:38:130:38:16

-There can't be too many Ruperts in Burnley, can there?

-No.

0:38:160:38:20

We're just...covering our backs that Rupert isn't...

0:38:200:38:25

another sibling of Gladys that we haven't...discovered as yet.

0:38:250:38:31

There he is. Rupert Rushton.

0:38:310:38:33

Do you reckon that's him?

0:38:330:38:34

Let's have a look.

0:38:340:38:36

-Yeah.

-That's it.

-That's it.

0:38:370:38:39

He's a distant cousin. Yeah, we've just identified this Rupert.

0:38:390:38:43

He has the deceased mother's maiden name,

0:38:430:38:45

so he's probably a distant cousin which won't affect our research.

0:38:450:38:49

As Gladys's cousin,

0:38:490:38:50

Rupert is less eligible to inherit than her half-brother Milton,

0:38:500:38:55

so he, Margaret and any of their descendants

0:38:550:38:58

are now out of the picture.

0:38:580:39:00

The Heir Hunters have finally traced Gladys's complete family tree,

0:39:030:39:07

and confirm that the true heirs to her estate are Margaret and Richard,

0:39:070:39:12

Gladys's great-niece and nephew.

0:39:120:39:14

It's a satisfying end to the search,

0:39:170:39:19

and instead of disappearing into the Treasury,

0:39:190:39:23

Gladys's legacy will now be passed down to her family.

0:39:230:39:27

Whether the great-niece and great-nephew

0:39:270:39:32

will know anything about Gladys,

0:39:320:39:35

I don't know.

0:39:350:39:37

It'll be interesting to know

0:39:370:39:39

whether the two halves of Susannah's family did maintain contact.

0:39:390:39:45

Like all the relatives that the Heir Hunters track down,

0:39:460:39:50

Gladys's great-niece Margaret was shocked

0:39:500:39:53

when she heard that she was going to inherit some money.

0:39:530:39:56

It was quite surprising, really.

0:39:560:39:59

It was my mum who'd rung and said David had called on my mum,

0:39:590:40:03

and Mum said, "You might have inherited some money from a relative,

0:40:030:40:08

"a distant relative that we didn't know about."

0:40:080:40:12

We had a vague idea who Gladys was

0:40:120:40:16

but we didn't really know properly.

0:40:160:40:20

We've put it all together now

0:40:200:40:23

and realise that Gladys was my granddad's half-sister.

0:40:230:40:27

Yeah, looking at that photograph,

0:40:270:40:30

that's Gladys with my dad Donald, which would be...

0:40:300:40:34

What they didn't realise was that, all along,

0:40:340:40:37

Joan had an old photograph of Gladys on the beach

0:40:370:40:40

with Margaret's dad Donald.

0:40:400:40:42

There must have been a time when the two sides of the family were close,

0:40:420:40:46

but something changed.

0:40:460:40:47

My granddad was a very big church-goer

0:40:470:40:51

and he was a member of the church choir in the Church of England,

0:40:510:40:56

but it looks like Gladys went off

0:40:560:40:59

towards the spiritual side of the church, which maybe...

0:40:590:41:04

you know, my granddad being set in his ways,

0:41:040:41:09

didn't approve of her going, and that may have caused the rift

0:41:090:41:14

in the family.

0:41:140:41:17

With not having any children of her own,

0:41:170:41:20

it just seems quite sad that she was all on her own, really.

0:41:200:41:25

We could've been visiting and, you know,

0:41:250:41:30

phoning and writing letters to her,

0:41:300:41:33

but we didn't know.

0:41:330:41:35

Gladys may have missed out on knowing this side of her family,

0:41:350:41:39

but it's good to know that her adopted family

0:41:390:41:42

in the spiritualist church were there for her at the end.

0:41:420:41:46

They did their utmost to give her a really lovely service

0:41:460:41:50

in the way that she would've liked it.

0:41:500:41:53

We don't wear black, we wear the brightest colours.

0:41:530:41:57

It's not a sad occasion at all.

0:41:570:42:00

It's a celebration of her life and then a celebration

0:42:000:42:04

of the fact that she's now moved upwards and onwards.

0:42:040:42:07

This is how many relatives that you've found at the moment - 190.

0:42:100:42:15

And this is only really part of the family, isn't it?

0:42:150:42:19

Finding out about her long-lost great-aunt

0:42:190:42:22

has awakened her interest in the family history

0:42:220:42:24

and the work that her mum's been doing on the family tree.

0:42:240:42:27

So it'll be quite massive when I've finished it.

0:42:270:42:30

Now we've got a few more dates and names,

0:42:300:42:33

whereby my mum had come to a full stop,

0:42:330:42:36

she can now carry on and hopefully build up

0:42:360:42:39

the family tree on Gladys's side.

0:42:390:42:42

We can go further than that, really.

0:42:420:42:45

We can work together on it

0:42:450:42:47

and build it up together.

0:42:470:42:51

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0:42:510:42:55

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