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Every year in the UK, 12,000 people die with no will | 0:00:01 | 0:00:05 | |
and no obvious relatives. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
Tracking down their long-lost families is a job for the Heir Hunters. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
On today's programme: | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
with the competition hot on their heels, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
the heir hunters are involved in a nail-biting chase. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
I don't know. I don't know who that is. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
And the search for beneficiaries of a £250,000 estate | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
reveals a dark family history. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
It didn't actually say that she was a prostitute, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
but from what they said and what was subsequently found out, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
that's what she was. | 0:00:58 | 0:00:59 | |
And we'll have details of some of the hundreds of estates | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
still waiting to be claimed. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Could you be in line for a windfall? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Approximately two-thirds of people in the UK | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
don't have a current will. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
If they die without making one, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:17 | |
their money could end up going to the government. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Last year alone, the Treasury made a staggering £18 million | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
from unclaimed estates. That's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
More than 30 companies make it their job to trace the long-lost relatives. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
As they charge a commission, it's a rewarding business. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
Last year between them they returned £6 million to the rightful heirs. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
It's 7.00am Thursday and this week's Treasury list of unclaimed estates has just been released. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:53 | |
It's a frantic time in the office of Fraser and Fraser. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
With over 30 rival firms also poring over the same list at the same time, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
they need to work quickly. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Despite their efforts, Charles Fraser and his team aren't progressing very fast. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
None of you have got anything here. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
It's a bit of a dog's dinner. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
We've got a lot of cases this morning | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
where a lot of the deceased appear to be living in nursing homes | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
so we've got to wait until the nursing home opens, really. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
Then we can call them and ask for information about the person who's died. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
The Treasury's list doesn't give the value of an estate. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
So when there's only a nursing home as an address, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
it's difficult to decide which are going to be the most lucrative cases to follow. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
But what they do know is that every case on the list | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
has to be worth at least £5,000. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
And that money will end up in the government coffers if heirs aren't found. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
Let's try and allocate some of these to you all. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
One of Fraser and Fraser's longest-serving case managers, David Pacifico, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:03 | |
is assigned the estate of George Thomas Cashmore. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
Like many of the cases advertised today, George died in a nursing home. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
He was 81 years old, had no known family, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and a history of mental illness. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
When George first came to the home, we didn't know much about him. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
We were aware from his doctor | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
that he had a diagnosis of schizophrenia. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Then he went on to be diagnosed with dementia. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
But George had obviously got a lifetime of experience | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
that he'd got locked within him. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
George fought in Germany during the Second World War. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Although no longer able to talk about his past, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
Jean noticed how he would react to certain songs. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
When they were singing the Vera Lynn songs and things like that, | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
they'd got their flags and they were all... | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
George actually took part in that. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
So although he couldn't tell us what the feelings were, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
we could see that he was having such a memorable time. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
George suffered from psychological problems, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
but no-one knew what caused them or how long he'd suffered. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
As he died without leaving a will, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
the team start investigating his case. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
They uncover an address he lived at before the nursing home. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
If he owned the property, the value of the estate could be higher than they first thought. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Needing to check this out straight away, company partner Charles | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
calls up one of his team who's based in Birmingham. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
So, Waverley Road. It's Cashmore, yeah. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
Probate research doesn't just happen in the office. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Up and down the country, there are a number of travelling heir hunters | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
employed by the company. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
They pick up records, talk to neighbours about the deceased | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and make door-to-door enquiries. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
But their key role is signing up heirs before the competition. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
Ex-police officer Paul Matthews has been handling cases around his home in Birmingham | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
for the past eight years. Eager to establish if the estate is worth anything, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
Paul wants to find out if George Cashmore owned a property. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
The office have come up with an address in Small Heath. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
We're not sure whether he owned the property or rented it. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
The first thing to do is put a value on the estate | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
to see if it's viable and worth doing. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
Just because somebody dies in squalid conditions or a care home | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
or with no outward signs of wealth | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
it doesn't mean they haven't been a hard saver all their life | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
or haven't inherited off somebody. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
With Paul heading off in search of clues, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
the office are starting to draw up a family tree | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
and already they've found some vital information. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
By cross-referencing George's birth certificate with the census and electoral rolls, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:06 | |
they have their first breakthrough in this case. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Could they have already uncovered some of George's heirs? | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
George was the son of Thomas Cashmore and Clara Hawkins, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
who had an older sister, Rose. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Rose died in 2008 | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
but had five children. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
They would be George's nieces and nephews | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
and could all be entitled to a share of the estate. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Using the electoral roll, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
case manager David Pacifico has already found a phone number for one of the potential heirs. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
So I'm just gonna phone up what I hope might be a nephew | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
and if it's correct, try and get an appointment for Paul Matthews to go and see him. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
With David following up leads in the office, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
out on the road, Paul's arrived at George's old street. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
KNOCKS DOOR | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
..George Cashmore, an old bloke. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
No? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:02 | |
OK. Cheers. Thank you. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Back in the office, things are moving fast. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It's only 9.00am, but David has already managed to speak to an heir, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
George's nephew, Brian. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
It's come to our attention your uncle's passed away, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
it would seem without leaving a valid will | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
and, it was thought, without any known next-of-kin. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
He discovers that George's mental illness only occurred after the Second World War. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
So could it have been caused by his experiences on the front line? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
One person who has a wealth of knowledge on this subject | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
is Terry Charman, senior historian at the Imperial War Museum. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
It wasn't just the scenes of combat, of losing your comrades, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
seeing civilians massacred | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
and the results of artillery fire, that type of thing, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
but also the deliberate atrocities committed by the Nazis in the concentration camps. | 0:07:55 | 0:08:00 | |
I think that many of the troops that eye-witnessed, for example, the liberation of Belsen | 0:08:00 | 0:08:05 | |
and the horrific scenes there | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
suffered terribly from this in post-war years. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
Over 5.5 million troops fought in the Second World War. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Nearly 300,000 lost their lives | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
and those servicemen returning home had to deal with what they had witnessed. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:25 | |
You'd have to have been a very hard and tough personality | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
not to have been affected by the sight of your comrades being killed, wounded in action, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
or to view the other sights like the atrocities of the concentration camps. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
I think a lot of people, perhaps even now, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
are suffering from the emotional problems of things that they experienced | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
during the Second World War. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
It's come back to haunt them, perhaps, in old age. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
So could this be the answer behind George Cashmore's late onset of schizophrenia? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:58 | |
Were his experiences enough to trigger his mental illness? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Having already traced one of George's heirs, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
it seems like it's going to be a straightforward case. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
But nothing is ever that easy. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Another heir-hunting company is hot on their heels. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
I've just spoken to the nephew. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
I want to get Paul Matthews to contact him direct straightaway. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:23 | |
But Paul is still busy trying to discover if anyone remembers the deceased. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
-Was that George? -I never knew George. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
-DIALLING TONE -All David can do is keep calling. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Not doing too well at the moment, I'm afraid. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Other companies are on to this | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
and I need him urgently to go round and see somebody who I think is at home now. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:49 | |
Worried that the competition will beat them to it, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
David goes to see Charles. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
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Paul Matthews, is he doing anything else? | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
He's not answering his phone. There's other companies on to it. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
The wife gave me his mobile | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
and I'm wanting Paul to see him literally as soon as possible. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
I can't do any more until he phones in. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
-We've put an All Persons Bulletin out. -I know. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
At last, Paul is back in the car. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
His enquiries have discovered that George only rented at the property. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
He calls into the office to update them. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
You must have dozens of messages there, or missed calls. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
It might not seem like much time has passed, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
but when they are racing to sign up heirs ahead of the competition, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
every second counts. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
'A few minutes ago I spoke to the nephew and I said you'd phone him direct on his mobile. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
'I'm hoping you can see him at work.' | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
With competition hotting up, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
will they reach the heirs in time? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
And will Paul be able to unlock the mystery of George's mental health? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:54 | |
'He used to come and visit when I was a teenager, to the house.' | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
But she dreaded him coming because of his mental disability. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
Piecing together separated families is the daily work of the heir hunters. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
But few cases involve nobility. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
So when the name of a lord appeared on the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
there was excitement in the office. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
But it's not just the thrill of working on a case involving blue blood. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
It was a lord leaving a fortune of a quarter of a million pounds. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
This really was a rare treasure for Fraser and Fraser. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
When we first saw this case advertised as Lord Ravencastle, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
my first thought was, "Brilliant. We're gonna work a lord." | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
That would be fabulous. Great fun. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Lord Ravenscastle wasn't the only noble name the deceased went by. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
At some stage in the past he'd adopted Raymond Ravenscastle, or Count Ravenscastle, | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
as he liked to call himself. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
He said he had all the paperwork | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
to support that, but I never questioned it, you know. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
I thought I'd let him have his fantasy! | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Half the office were arguing it'd be a titled individual, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
and half were saying, "No chance, it's all made up." | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
I didn't really go with him being titled. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
I went for it being an ordinary folk. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
I never like it when Grimble's right, but I was a bit disappointed. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:29 | |
It would have been so nice to say, "We've done the family of Lord Ravencastle", | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
but it's not the way it goes sometimes. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It turned out that he had just appointed himself the title of lord | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
and his name was merely Raymond Ravenscastle. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
Either way, the fact still remained that he'd died without leaving a will | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
and the lordly sum of a quarter of a million pounds | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
would go to the Treasury unless his rightful heirs were found. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
Raymond Ravenscastle died alone aged 70 at his home in Oxford. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
A colourful character, he was well known in the local community. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
Anybody who lived in Boars Hill | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
eventually got to see and hear about and to know Ray. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
The pedestrians would be open-jawed in amazement when he went by. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
He looked like Yul Brynner in a black tracksuit. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
I think he used to play up to it. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
But there was more to Raymond than his unconventional appearance. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
An event was organised at a house on Boars Hill where there is a superb grand piano. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
It was all organised, then a few days beforehand, Ray said, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
"I'm going to play a tribute. I've composed a tribute." | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
So, with heart in mouth, we let him play after the interval. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:49 | |
And I'm not a musical person so I can't criticise or comment, really, | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
but I thought it was brilliant. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
PLAYS FLAMBOYANTLY AND WITH SKILL | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
It was just like you'd hear a grand pianist in a concert playing. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
Fantastic, yeah. Self-taught, too. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
Despite being well known in the neighbourhood, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Raymond died alone and his body was left undiscovered for weeks. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
We all feel guilty | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
that we didn't know he'd died until a long time afterwards | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
and he may well have been dead for weeks before he was discovered. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
Nobody knew because he didn't mix with anybody by then | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
and so nobody had any particular reason to go and check up on him. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
So why did this charismatic and flamboyant character | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
die without any family around him? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
And who was entitled to the £250,000 fortune he left behind? | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
Was someone who didn't even know about Raymond Ravenscastle's existence | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
in line for a life-changing windfall? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
His friends knew nothing about his family. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
He always created the impression that there was nobody at all. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
He had no mother and father that he could recall, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
he had no brothers and sisters, had never been married, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
didn't have a relationship with anybody. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
So who was this elusive character? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
One of the company's longest-serving case managers, David Milchard, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
known in the office as Grimble, takes up the challenge to find out. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
For heir hunters, the death certificate is their first tool in tracking down heirs. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:46 | |
As well as the date of death, it normally gives a date of birth. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Using this information, probate researchers can trawl the archives | 0:15:50 | 0:15:55 | |
and find corresponding records. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
The birth certificate gives them a place of birth and the names of parents. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
So a family tree can begin to take shape. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Grimble's research discovers that our "lord", far from being an aristocrat, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
was born simply Raymond Torrence, and was the son of Robina Torrence. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
Once we knew of the birth in the name of Torrence, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
when we got the certificate, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
it showed that there was no father. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
There was the mother's name, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
so we thought immediately that this is an illegitimate birth. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
With no father to investigate, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Grimble turns his attention to the maternal side of the tree. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Raymond's mother was Robina Torrence, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
the daughter of James Torrence and Agnes Dickson. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
She was born in Ayr, Scotland, in 1913 | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
and was the second youngest of their eight children. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
Grimble discovers that all of Robina's siblings have died | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
so it was their children, Raymond's cousins, | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
who were the potential heirs to his £250,000 estate. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
One heir was Elsie Powers. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
Her grandmother, Isabella, was Raymond's aunt. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Elsie had never even heard of Raymond. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
So when an heir hunter knocked on her door, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
and told her that she could be entitled to a share of his fortune, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
neither her nor her husband, Fred, could quite believe it. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:26 | |
I thought it was a joke. I told her it was a joke. I said, "There's somebody at it!" | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
When I heard the name Raymond Maynard, I thought they'd got the wrong person. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:35 | |
Would nae be looking for me because I'd never heard that name before. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
I think she was only 18 there. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
I knew it must be something to do with my mother | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
because I never knew that side of the family. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
And the mystery surrounding that side of the family was getting more interesting. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
With no father on the birth certificate, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
the team have no choice but to look for heirs on the maternal side of the family only. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
Until they uncover a very unusual twist in the tale. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
Raymond had a second birth certificate, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
registered 15 years after his first. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
This time, the father's name is entered. Raymond Maynard. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Now, this certificate is signed by both the mother and the father. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:29 | |
Which indicates that the couple were not married at the time. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
So who was the man now claiming to be Raymond's father? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
In an attempt to find out more, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
Grimble calls Robina's family. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Robina, the mother, according to the family, she basically left Scotland. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:51 | |
Robina had fallen out with her family and moved to the bright lights of London, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
perhaps in search of a more fruitful or glamorous life. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
There is a popular historical image of Britain and Londoners in particular | 0:19:01 | 0:19:08 | |
loosening moral restraint | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
and having a good time and a good sexual time | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
as a result of the war. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
And Grimble finds out more intriguing information about Robina. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
They intimated, according to the life she was involved in, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:27 | |
although they didn't actually say she was a prostitute, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
certainly from what they said and what was subsequently found out, that's what she was. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
The sex trade in London and in areas like this, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
in Soho, was complexly organised, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
nasty, brutish, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
particularly for women, and it was a thriving big business. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
But the story was about to get even more mysterious. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
The heir hunters had already found some potential heirs to Raymond's £250,000 estate. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
But family-held secrets would take them deep into the criminal underworld. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
We've dealt with families that have been on the edge of crime and things, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
but to be heavily involved in the Mafia, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
a Sicilian family, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
if there had been a lot of family still around, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
I think I would have volunteered one of the others to go and sign him! | 0:20:19 | 0:20:24 | |
For every case that is solved, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
there are still thousands that remain a mystery. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:44 | |
Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
in the hope that eventually, someone will remember | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
and come forward to claim their inheritance. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
the rightful heirs are out there somewhere. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
Could you be the key? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Could you be in line for a pay-out? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
Joyce Mary Kilner died in Urmston in Manchester | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
on 30 December 2004. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Was Joyce a friend or neighbour of yours? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
Could you even be related to her | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
and entitled to her legacy? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Hetty Florence May Liebek passed away on 25 September 2006 | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
in Worthing. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
So far, every attempt to find her rightful heir has failed. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
If no relatives can be found, her money will go to the government. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
But could it be meant for you? | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Fraser and Fraser are investigating the case of George Cashmore. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Why did he die alone in a nursing home with no family around him? | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
And what caused his mental health problems? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Hoping to unlock the mystery, senior case manager David Pacifico | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
has begun tracing his heirs and finds a nephew. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
One of the children is called Brian Gillen. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
But with other probate research companies also working on the case, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
it's vital for travelling heir hunter Paul Matthews to make contact with him first. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
DIALLING TONE | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
-'Hello?' -Hello. Mr Gillen? | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-'Yes.' -Paul Matthews from Fraser and Fraser. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
Paul Matthews wastes no time heading over to see him. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Worried other heir hunters may be trying to contact him at work, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
Paul arranges to meet Brian outside. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
And it's here he starts to piece together the details of George's troubled past. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:55 | |
-Your Uncle George, you don't know when he was born. -No. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Do you know anything about him? He was a bachelor. Where did he live? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
He lived in Windmill Lane, Smethwick, in a flat. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
What was your memories of George? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
He suffered with schizophrenic. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Something happened while he was in the army, with a girl. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
-He never forgot it. -Oh, right. -I think it sent his mind funny ways. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
-Was he all right before that? -Perfect, yeah. -Was he? -Perfect, yes. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Has George's nephew unlocked the mystery of his mental health? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
Could a war-time relationship really be responsible? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
'In some cases,' | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
fraternisation with German girls was frowned upon | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
and looked down upon by some of the British troops | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
who thought, having seen all the horrors of the camps and this type of thing | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and having endured a lot of hard fighting against the Germans in north-west Europe, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:54 | |
nearly a year between D-Day and VE Day. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
And in some cases there was the feeling | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
that German women and girls, by getting a British or an American boyfriend, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:05 | |
was somehow cosseting them from the rest of the population. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:12 | |
And indeed, perhaps providing them with protection as well. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Armed with his new information, Paul calls David. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
But he has news of his own. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
He spoke about his Uncle Norman, did he, to you? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
He said he died during the war. Didn't know much about him. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
For your information, he was born as Norman Harold Hawkins, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
which was before the parents' marriage. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
David Pacifico discovered that George's mother, Clara, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
gave birth to a son, Norman Hawkins, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
before she married George's father. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
The team need to discover if he was adopted by George's father. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
If he was, his descendants would be heirs. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
They learn that Norman was a member of the British Royal Artillery | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
and had served in the Second World War. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
In 1943, his family were sent a letter by the Red Cross | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
informing them that he was missing, presumed dead. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Further digging reveals that Norman's name | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
is on a list of those killed in the Ballale Massacre in March 1943. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
Mary Baker's late husband, Alf, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
was also part of the regiment and documented the history of the tragedy | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
and named those who lost their lives. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
And in the list is Hawkins N H, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
Gunner, ninth coast, aged 23, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
as one of the 517 that were lost at Ballale. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:43 | |
George's brother, Norman Hawkins, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
was one of 600 members of the British Royal Artillery | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
who were captured by the Japanese in 1942. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Originally held in the Changi prisoner-of-war camp, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
they were then transported to Rabaul on the island of New Britain | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
in Papua New Guinea. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
From there, 517 of the men were taken to Ballale in the Solomon Islands | 0:26:02 | 0:26:08 | |
where they were forced by the Japanese to build an airstrip. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
Mary's husband, Alf, was left behind in Rabaul | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
so lived to tell the heart-breaking story of what happened next. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Once the job was done, we believe that, if they hadn't been killed by bombing, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
they were executed. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
The office's research confirmed that George's older brother, Norman, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
was killed by the Japanese on the island. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
As he died without having any children, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
whether he was adopted by George's father or not, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
the only heirs to George's estate | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
are now his half-sister Rose's five children. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
The search for them is coming together well. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
It's only 11.30 in the morning and Paul has managed to sign up one of them, nephew Brian. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
So we're doing very well today. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Let's hope we get lucky and it's an estate that's worthwhile researching. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
So, yeah, the day's good so far. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
But Brian is only entitled to one-fifth of the estate. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
For the case to be worthwhile for the team, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
they need to try to sign up all five of the heirs. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
With the race still on for him to reach the others ahead of the competition, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
he dashes over to the house of Patricia, one of George's nieces. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
Fraser and Fraser. Pleased to meet you. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
And he is only just in time as there is a rival heir hunter at the door. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:38 | |
I don't know who that is. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
With his competitor outside on the doorstep, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Patricia decides to sign up with Paul. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
If you sign there... | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
When you're working these estates, time is very, very important. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
If you end up ten minutes further behind than where you should be, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
then he'd have been sitting in there seeing the heir while I'm at the door. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
It may be lunchtime, but there's no time for Paul to stop. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
He heads over to the office of Michael, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
another one of George's nephews. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Like his brother, Brian, Michael remembers his troubled uncle. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
He used to come and visit when I was a teenager, to the house. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
He had this obsession for washing. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
He was always washing. He'd leave the taps running and I'd see the water coming out the bathroom. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:28 | |
Psychological problems manifested themselves in George's day-to-day life. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
This odd and unpredictable behaviour | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
may help to explain why his family had lost touch with him. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
It's over 40 years since the last time I saw him. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
So it is rather weird to get that phone call this morning, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
to find out he passed away. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
It was also weird cos my mother passed away last year as well. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:55 | |
So it's uncanny that they both passed away the same year. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
George's nephew, Michael, agrees to sign with Fraser and Fraser. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
It's not even three o'clock and Paul has already achieved a hat trick. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
A good interview with the gentleman. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
He's happy for us to put forward his claim. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
So we've seen three people, we've signed all three. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
So it's Frasers three, the competition nil, which is good. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Back in the office, David checks in with Paul. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
Hello, Paul. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
-I've seen Mr Gillen at work, Michael. -'Yeah.' | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
No problem. He's quite happy for us to put forward his claim. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
I've got a sporting chance. I'll try Janice later. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
-Catch up with you later or tomorrow. -Okey-cokey, Dave. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
Paul has just two more heirs to the Cashmore estate to sign up. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
As George's niece, Janice, works as a schoolteacher, Paul has to hang around until she gets home. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:55 | |
And his wait is worth it. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
Not only does he get Janice's signature, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
he finds out more about George's troubled past. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Paul Matthews, Fraser and Fraser. Pleased to meet you. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
He went into the army during the war. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
He was sent to Germany. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
He, um... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
fell in love with a German woman. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
And, um, on the boat back... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:26 | |
because he'd fallen in love, he had such a severe beating | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
that it caused his mental illness. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
He was severely beaten and he was tortured | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
by his comrades. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
It caused him to be schizophrenic. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
George's colleagues viewed him as a traitor | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
and couldn't forgive him for his relationship with a German girl. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
There was a feeling that these people had been responsible | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
for bringing to the world so much death and destruction and misery. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
"How can we ever actually forgive them?" | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
So Janice's final piece in the jigsaw | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
helps the office unlock the mystery of George's mental health. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
The team's had a successful day - they've already signed four out of the five heirs. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:14 | |
We're pleased at the outcome of this case, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
that we've been able to identify the next-of-kin and tell them | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
the uncle had passed away | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
and put a closure to that because maybe they were wondering what happened to him, things like that. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
'The good that's come out of the news today' | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
is the knowledge for us that now they're all reconciled. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
They're all together again. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Nobody is suffering any more | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
and they'll all know the answers to these questions they've pondered on for so many years. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:48 | |
Fraser and Fraser have already invested a good deal of time and resources | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
on the case of Raymond Maynard, the self-appointed lord and local eccentric | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
who died in Oxford in February 2009 without leaving a will. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
His estate is worth a massive quarter of a million pounds, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:14 | |
a life-changing sum | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
which would end up in the Treasury coffers if the rightful heirs aren't found. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
As heir hunters work on commission, they have a huge incentive to track them down. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
They found heirs on Raymond's mother's side | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
but who was his father? And why did he wait 15 years before he put his name on Raymond's birth certificate? | 0:32:28 | 0:32:35 | |
Grimble had discovered that Raymond's mother, Robina, was involved in the sex industry. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
Nobody actually came out with "She was a prostitute", but from what we found out, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:47 | |
it's obvious she was heavily involved. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
Police documents held at the National Archive | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
show Robina had 32 convictions for working the streets. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
The documents also revealed that she was involved with one of the most notorious crime dynasties | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
ever to plague London's streets, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
the Messinas. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Five Mediterranean brothers who'd built up a multi-million-pound empire of vice in London. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
The Messinas come to London in the late 1930s | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
and they intervene in the trade in a number of ways | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
by increasing the amount of strong-arm tactics, violence, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:31 | |
bullying and gang-style control of street women. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:36 | |
So how was Robina involved with the Messinas? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Records show one of the brothers, Attilio Messina, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
had been convicted of living off her immoral earnings. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
But her family suggested there was more to her relationship. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
It must have been more than just pimp/prostitute. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
Cos after all, members of her mother's family had met him. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
There's a bigger story there somewhere. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Police intelligence records reveal that the couple lived together as man and wife | 0:34:05 | 0:34:10 | |
and that Attilio paid for Raymond's private education at a top boarding school. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
With Attilio playing happy families, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
where was Raymond's father? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And why did he wait until Raymond was 15 | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
before putting his name on the birth certificate? | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Grimble had a name. Raymond Maynard. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
But his research keeps leading to dead ends. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
So knowing about Raymond's mother's criminal connections, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
Grimble decides to look up the name Raymond Maynard in the police records | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
and makes a surprising discovery. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
I went through the police records | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
and we identified a Raymond Maynard. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
At that stage, you wouldn't know whether he was our guy or not. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
But it turns out this particular one we followed through | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
was also known as Attilio Messina. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
Grimble discovers that Attilio Messina also went by the name of Raymond Maynard. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
In fact, all the Messina brothers adopted English sounding names | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
in an attempt to blend in. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
So why would Attilio now be claiming to be Raymond Jnr's father? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
Grimble has his own theory as to why he wanted to register the birth. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
The Messina family were having a running conflict with the Home Office. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
I think they were being deported for their criminal life. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:33 | |
The fact that he got this declaration I think was probably an attempt | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
to show to the authorities that he's got a child | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
and that's one reason why he shouldn't be deported. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
The Messinas were facing deportation after an expose in the press. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
A front-page exclusive detailed their vice trade activities | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
and forced the police to take action against them. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
The brothers ended up in court and the authorities started moves to deport them. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
It is around this time that Raymond's birth is re-registered. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
Could it have been a further attempt of the Messinas to flout the law? | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
Whatever the truth, the birth certificate is a legal document | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
so in the eyes of the law, Attilio Messina, who also went by the name of Raymond Maynard, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
was Raymond's father. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
And this meant that any of his living relatives | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
would be entitled to a share of Raymond's estate. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
Grimble now has the task of finding out if there are any heirs descended from these gangsters. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
Luckily for him, the police records already have most of the information he needs. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:46 | |
It was good to see all those records from so many years ago | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
compiled by the Foreign Office or whoever was trying to deport them. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:57 | |
They've obviously had to go in depth into the family background. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
So you get a lot of information there, which for genealogies would be marvellous! | 0:37:02 | 0:37:08 | |
If every time you had something like that, half your work would be done. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
But once you get to the stage where they must have been deported, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
zilch, nothing. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:19 | |
After they were deported, most of the brothers moved to San Remo in Italy. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
Further investigations by Grimble showed that all five of the Messina brothers | 0:37:24 | 0:37:30 | |
and their sister, Emma, had died without having any children. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
So the Messina stem of the family tree had died out. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
None of Raymond's £250,000 estate would be going to the descendants of these gangsters. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:43 | |
We've dealt with families that have been on the edge of crime and things like that, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
but to be heavily involved in the Mafia, a Sicilian family, | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
if there had been a lot of family still around, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
I think I would have volunteered one of the others to go and sign them! | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
In the end, all of Raymond's heirs are on the maternal side of the family. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
Raymond's mother, Robina, was one of eight children. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
It is her nephews and nieces and their children, all 23 of them, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:15 | |
who are entitled to a share of the estate. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Elsie Powers, the granddaughter of Robina's sister, Isabella, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
is one such heir. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
She knows very little about her mother's side of the family. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
I was really glad when they contacted me. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Really glad, because it let me know a side of the family that I never knew existed. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:38 | |
Because I always knew just the one side of the family. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
Keen to know more about her mysterious cousin and benefactor, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Elsie travelled to Oxford with her husband. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
I'd like to find out what he done for a living | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
and who all his friends were. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
Um, how long he's been here | 0:38:57 | 0:38:59 | |
in this area. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
Elsie and Fred met up with Raymond's neighbours. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
This is the photo album, as it says, which we found in the house | 0:39:06 | 0:39:11 | |
in a locked cupboard on the side of the stairs, going upstairs. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
-Wow! Look at him. -These are photographs of Ray. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
-Right. -His eyebrows were remarkable because they were painted on. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
-Tattooed on. -Tattooed. -His head was tattooed. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
-His head was tattooed. -Who's he like? -Like Roy. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
Does he remind you of people? | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
-He looks like my brother. -Really? | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
It puts a face to the name | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
that I never knew. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
He does look awful like my young brother. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
There's a canny resemblance to him. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
It's a good picture, if you take away the hair. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
If you took away the hair and made him a bit fatter, that's what he looked like. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
To me, he's part of the family now. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
He's a family member. It's just a shame we never knew that. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
How did he start out? Did he go to college or go to university? | 0:40:04 | 0:40:10 | |
He gradually worked his way through three separate psychiatric nursing levels. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:15 | |
And then he applied to go to what is now called Harris Manchester College. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
It was then called just Manchester College in Oxford. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
He went there as a mature student | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
and then he transferred from there to Oriel College | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
and eventually took his degree. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
The Messinas' money paid for Raymond's school education. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:41 | |
Despite his unconventional upbringing, | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
he ended up studying at Oxford University. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
It is believed that he taught Sociology after he graduated. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
In 1982, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
he bought a three-bedroomed house, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Wuthering Heights in Oxford. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
It was as eccentric as the man himself, and Ray's friend Kate O'Kane showed Elsie around. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:03 | |
-Have you not seen the house before? -No. I didn't even know that he existed. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
-So this is the house. -Oh, yes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
It's always been blue and yellow, ever since I've known it. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
Right. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
It is colourful! | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
He was a colourful character. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
Despite the house having three bedrooms, Raymond chose to live in the garage, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
renting rooms in the house to people in dire straits, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
mainly ex-psychiatric patients. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
He saw it as his public duty. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
He moved into here. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
-Did he? -Yes. Now, this was the garage. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
-His heater's up on the wall. -My, it's so... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
This is where he lived. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
Goodness. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Got a little stove or something. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
Raymond lived in the garage to help other people. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
Now his quarter-of-a-million-pound estate will go on to benefit others. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
I think it's sad he lived here on his own. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
Just a pity we didnae get to know him, really. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
And be able to talk. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
But no-one really got to know Raymond that well. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
He was a complex man, haunted by dark family secrets | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
which he kept locked within himself. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
He was a great eccentric who died as he lived, in a way. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
And who I don't think would have wanted it any other way. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
That's what he chose and that's what happened. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
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