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This week, the wired world of 360
video. The artistic world of Marina | 0:00:08 | 0:00:18 | |
Abramovic. And the strange world of
quantum computers. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:31 | |
Imagine a computer that could crack
the world's most secure codes in | 0:00:45 | 0:00:51 | |
minutes. Design extraordinary new
medicines. Even pave the way to | 0:00:51 | 0:00:57 | |
intelligent machines. Big tech
companies like Google, IBM and | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
Microsoft are all trying to be the
first to achieve a breakthrough in | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
the field of quantum computing. But
we are not quite there yet. At the | 0:01:07 | 0:01:14 | |
moment, if you want a quantum
computer, you need all of this. You | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
need your ionising lasers, your
cooling lasers, and your processor. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
You need all of this, and currently
all this can do is add a zero and | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
one. But it does do it in a really
cool way. Quantum computers | 0:01:27 | 0:01:36 | |
harnessed weird and wonderful
phenomena seen only at very small | 0:01:36 | 0:01:41 | |
scales. The data in an ordinary
computer is represented as its, each | 0:01:41 | 0:01:48 | |
of which can either be zero or one.
-- bits. A quantum computer, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:55 | |
instead, users quantum bits or
qubits. Now, these qubits can be | 0:01:55 | 0:02:04 | |
both zero and one at the same time.
This is called superposition, and it | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
is a key feature of a quantum
computer's unique powers. So when a | 0:02:09 | 0:02:15 | |
quantum computer and one, it is also
adding one and a zero, and one and | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
one and one, and zero and zero, all
at the same time. So numbercrunching | 0:02:20 | 0:02:27 | |
could in theory done much faster on
a quantum computer. There are a few | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
really important things that we know
they will be to do. If we can ever | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
build them. So one thing is
searching through a database. So | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
lets you have a list of a million
items, say, and you want to find a | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
particular item on that list. Well,
all an ordinary computer can do is | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
look through that list one at a
time, the first item, the second | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
item, and the third item, until
eventually you find the item that | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
you are looking for. A quantum
computer can in some sense look at | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
all of those items simultaneously.
We know that quantum computers will | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
be able to help Artificial
Intelligence learn better and learn | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
faster. Optimising things and
designing things, if you're trying | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
to design lets say the shape of a
car so that air will flow over it in | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
exactly the right way, that as an
optimisation problem. It looks like | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
quantum computers are going to be
extremely good at that. And then | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
there is code breaking. If you give
an ordinary computer code to break, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
it will try every possible
combination, one at a time, but give | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
a quantum computer a code to break
and it can try all the codes at | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
once. This is a huge area of
application of quantum computers, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:36 | |
and it is financially the driving
force of putting money in the | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
industry and persuading people to
build the things. The first | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
government which has a functioning
quantum computer which can break | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
secret messages is going to be at a
big advantage, and maybe we want to | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
try and hide away the fact that they
have got those capabilities. And, if | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
superposition wasn't weird enough, a
quantum computer's qubits can be | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
paired up or entangled, and then can
instantaneously affect each other | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
from anywhere else in the universe.
Well, that's all very well in | 0:04:04 | 0:04:11 | |
theory, but it is really hard in
practice. At Sussex University, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:16 | |
researchers are preparing for the
challenge of scaling up their | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
prototype quantum computers to take
them from handfuls of qubits on the | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
lab bench to an industrial scale. So
what you see is an actual working | 0:04:24 | 0:04:30 | |
quantum computer. As we are filming
this, you can literally see an atom | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
for example be in one state and
another state simultaneously. And | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
what you see on this screen is the
evidence that that really occurs. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
That really the atom is very strange
and counterintuitive state. So | 0:04:41 | 0:04:47 | |
quantum computers have been on the
waiver a long time, the Holy Grail | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
of science. And with that, it
actually seemed nearly impossible to | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
build them. So people felt maybe it
is just never possible to build such | 0:04:54 | 0:05:00 | |
a machine. The reason why it is so
hard is because to control quantum | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
effects in such a way, allowing us
to build a large-scale quantum | 0:05:05 | 0:05:11 | |
computer, is tremendously hard.
Quantum effects like if an atom can | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
be an two different places at the
same time, or entanglement, which | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
Einstein referred to as spooky, is
so hard to control. At the moment | 0:05:20 | 0:05:26 | |
these prototypes offer a glimpse of
how these computers might work in | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
the future. How will we use them
when we have them? What does a | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
quantum computer programme looked
like? The basic building blocks of a | 0:05:35 | 0:05:42 | |
quantum computer programme are
really very alien to us. They are | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
things like superposition and
entanglement. Those are the right | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
high-level concepts to put into our
quantum computer programmes, but it | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
is very hard for the human brain to
understand what entanglement is and | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
what its consequences are. Thinking
of qubits connected by pieces of | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
string actually works extremely well
to help us design and predict | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
quantum programmes and predict what
they will do. So perhaps a high | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
level quantum programme manager of
the future could look like I'm not, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
or could look like children's game
of untangling fishing lines and see | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
who has which fish -- a knot. You
imagine going up and down and coiled | 0:06:17 | 0:06:25 | |
around, and the pattern of how those
strings interact has a bearing on | 0:06:25 | 0:06:31 | |
your quantum programme. I do feel
the programmers have a little bit of | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
time to sort their software out,
though, because the hardware is also | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
still a work in progress. I have
gone underground to see Oxford | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
University's quantum computer. The
lab is a wizard's paradise of | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
lasers, vacuum chambers, and traps
for atom sized particles. It is an | 0:06:46 | 0:06:55 | |
ion trap. In the lab, they have
achieved a world record level of | 0:06:55 | 0:07:01 | |
control over their quantum bits.
They can even show off by making a | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
single qubit low in Morse code.
Click. What will your quantum | 0:07:04 | 0:07:15 | |
computer look like? It won't be the
size? So ideally it looks incredibly | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
boring and incredibly small. So
takes an optic cable, two metres by | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
one metre high, we think we can get
this down to something the size of a | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
shoebox in the next five years. Once
you have everything in the right | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
place. Once we have everything the
right place, machine down, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
optimised, and rather than made by
physicists, made by engineers. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
Rather having knobs, when you have
enough people twisting them. You are | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
not looking to put more and more
qubits into the same box, are you? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
What we want to do is build some
devices which contain five or ten | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
qubits, but build many of these
devices. So it's the same as if you | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
have a supercomputer. Nowadays you
don't have one big computer, you | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
have lots of small computers, and
data centres thrumming with lots of | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
different machines. That is what we
envisage these things are. It does | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
seem like it is not the most
efficient design, if you're plugging | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
lots of these things together with
optic fibre rather than making a | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
quantum computer that has 50 qubits
in one place. Yes, the most | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
efficient device we could ever build
would have all the qubits being able | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
to talk to every other qubit. That
is ideally the place where you want | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
to be. But you always get to the
point where you can't put any more | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
qubits in the device. At that point,
we want to have a network we can | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
build-up. So once you have got as
big as you can with these | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
techniques, you can then network and
together to build and bigger | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
networks. The huge potential of
quantum imputing has attracted big | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
tech players. Google told us it will
have something big to announce in | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
March 2018. IBM has a 20 qubits
quantum computer that researchers | 0:08:50 | 0:08:59 | |
can programme over the internet.
Both these companies are trying to | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
build reliable quantum computers of
around 50 qubits. Now, at this point | 0:09:03 | 0:09:10 | |
they will achieve something called
quantum supremacy, which sounds | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
world changing, but it might not be.
Why I don't like the phrase is that | 0:09:13 | 0:09:19 | |
when you cross that boundary,
nothing instantaneously magical | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
happens. It is just the point at
which you can't predict what the | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
machine would do. It is the point
that the machine might be useful for | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
something, but to be honest, we
haven't worked out anything that, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
say, a 60 qubit wanton computer
could usefully do. So it is into the | 0:09:33 | 0:09:40 | |
uncharted territory, very exciting,
but it is not at the point where the | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
quantum hardware is supreme. You
should not throw away your phone or | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
your desktop and have a quantum
computer instead. So with more tech | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
companies getting serious about
quantum computing, there is now a | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
place for them to show off their
ideas. It is the quantum | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
technologies fair in London, and we
have been along to see what is on | 0:10:00 | 0:10:07 | |
the quantum horizon. When it comes
to quantum computer, a lot of the | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
research seems to be happening in
academia but I wanted to find out | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
how much of it is being taken away
from the lab bench for applications | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
in the real world. Every stall at
this fare is using the same tech | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
used in quantum computing. The
principles of trapping, manipulating | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
and measuring tiny atom sized
particles. But the practical | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
applications here are creative, and
potentially life changing, from | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
diamonds used in heart disease
sensing to capturing individual | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
virus particles. They are really
designed to be able to measure very, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
very sensitively, at very small
lengths, so it is ideal for things | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
like nano particles, like viruses,
and indeed for measuring chemical | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
signatures, as well. Use the mouse
to move that scaled back and forth, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
it should be fairly obvious when it
flashes really bright. There you go, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
that's it. When it Wiggles around,
that is when you have got a particle | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
trapped in your resonator. The
ultimate aim is that viruses could | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
be picked up using this diagnostic
tool. But the main focus now for | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
most people here is on overcoming
the engineering challenge of making | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
large, bulky systems a lot, lot
smaller. Heavy industry all the way | 0:11:17 | 0:11:23 | |
through to defence and security,
transport, and air technologies. It | 0:11:23 | 0:11:29 | |
is incredible to see how many stalls
here our research in so many | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
different areas when it comes to
quantum technology. And they are all | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
working together with an open source
mentality, along with a lot of | 0:11:37 | 0:11:42 | |
investment. The British government
spent £270 million over the last | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
five years on quantum technology
research. The collaborative element, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:49 | |
especially the number of things that
NPL is involved in, because we have | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
a lot of the core technology and
science, and we are just looking at | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
what are the actual applications in
the UK business world. From afar, a | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
lot of the applications here still
looked like complex machinery, but | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Anne Curtis has been looking at its
potentials in an important area, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
far, far away. So one of the main
applications we can use the quantum | 0:12:11 | 0:12:17 | |
technologies is quantum sensors and
what we are doing in this experiment | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
is we want to sense greenhouse gases
and measure how much there is, how | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
that is changing over time. And one
good way to monitor large-scale | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
systems is from space. To put
something properly on a satellite, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
it has to go through all the space
qualifying test, so every item in | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
they would have to be space
qualifying. Most of the fibre | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
technology isn't so good in space
due to radiation effects. But there | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
is no reason why this couldn't be
miniaturised and put up in the | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
space, it is just the next stage of
funding. It is so hard to be here | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
today and not feel excited about
wanton technologies. At one thing | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
everybody has said to me is that
their particular real-world | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
applications are a few years in the
future still. So, when it comes to | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
quantum computing, it is still very
much a case of watch this space. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:11 | |
Hello, and welcome to the week in
Tech. It was the week that the | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
Federal Communications commission in
America voted to repeal rules on net | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
neutrality, which had stopped
internet service providers from | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
offering different speeds and
priorities for users online. An | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
elongated asteroid was being checked
for signs of alien technology, and | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
here on Earth, the faces of 2
billion people can be compared in a | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
matter of seconds with a minority
report style system from China. It | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
was also the week that Netflix was
caught up in a creepy viewing | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
controversy after revealing on
Twitter that 53 subscribers watched | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
the holiday film a Christmas Prints
every day for ten days. It | 0:13:50 | 0:13:57 | |
represented overall trends are not
specific individuals. The city of | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
San Francisco has banned the use of
delivery robots on most of its | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
sidewalks, stating not all
innovation is all that great for | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
society. Meanwhile, Dutch police say
it may not have been such a good | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
idea to use beagles to catch drones
after all. Who could have guessed as | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Maxine here on Click on the birds
were trained to catch the drones | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
from the sky but the cost of keeping
them was too high, and they didn't | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
always do what they were told. And
finally, if you are missing Harry | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Potter, don't despair. Artificial
Intelligence may have a solution for | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
you. A new chapter has been created
for a book called Harry Potter and | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
what looked like a poor job of a
large pile of ash. Its plot twists | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
include Harry dipping Hermione in
hot sauce and Ron turning into | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
spiders and trying to eat Hermione's
family. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:50 | |
Earlier this year we looked at some
of the 360 cameras which have taken | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
off in 2017. Daniel films with the
new kid on the block, the 360 -- | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
Insta1 in Berlin. He was impressed,
easy-to-use, lots of features, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
including this bullet time mode, a
bit like the film the matrix, where | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
you can get a picture of your sort
from all angles. But one of -- but | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
what have the more established names
in photography got to offer us? With | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
Christmas around the corner we sent
Daniel to a suitably festive place | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
to put two 360 cameras through their
paces. The ancient city of Bath | 0:15:22 | 0:15:29 | |
hosts a very traditional Christmas
market, one that I want to catch in | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
the round. I've got to make cameras
for the job. One is from Kodak. The | 0:15:32 | 0:15:38 | |
other is Nikon's. They look similar,
with two ultra- wide-angle lenses | 0:15:38 | 0:15:44 | |
capturing everything before the two
images are stitched together in | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Camara. Look closer, and you will
see the Kodak sporting two different | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
lenses, one smaller than the other,
superwide 235 degrees lens. It also | 0:15:52 | 0:15:59 | |
has the tiniest of it controlled in
the world, and a slightly higher | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
price tagged them the Nikon. Our
producer has the Kodak, while I am | 0:16:02 | 0:16:09 | |
putting the Nikon through its paces.
Now, we don't just want to test | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
these cameras out in daylight when
all the conditions are absolutely | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
perfect. With these cameras we want
to test them out to see what they | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
are like as it starts to get dark.
Will the bright lights be a problem, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
and will we see all of the details?
Time to go for a wander and see | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
who's 360 is best. Dive in, ladies.
Don't let me get in your way. In no | 0:16:30 | 0:16:37 | |
time at all I found the vested with
the stand. Not just whine, but | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
flavoured vodka here. The Nikon is
not put off by those flashing | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
lights. But the image is a little
dark, so we will brighten it for you | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
in postproduction. There you go. Now
you can see the other problem. The | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
image stitching means I've almost
lost my head before touching the | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
job. -- touching a drop. The Kodak's
which is brighter than the Nikon, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:04 | |
but we found the quality from that
wide-angle lens was softer than the | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
smaller lens on the other side of
the device of course, you are best | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
off with a stick attached to both of
these cameras, otherwise your hands | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
get in the way. To make the test
pharaoh we decided to see how these | 0:17:16 | 0:17:23 | |
cameras fared back to back. Or front
in front. All back to front. Well, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
it is difficult to tell, to be
honest. We shot them side by side. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:33 | |
Look at this. We found a 360 Globe
for a 360 camera. And it is the | 0:17:33 | 0:17:42 | |
Nikon showing off more natural
colours, benefiting from a more | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
accurate wide balance. Although some
might prefer the warmer Kodak | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
results. It is very Christmassy. At
the chilly side a shop, the Kodak | 0:17:49 | 0:17:59 | |
warmed things up, while the nickel
and kept things natural and crisp. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
Both cameras struggled to stitched
their shots to go perfectly. This is | 0:18:02 | 0:18:07 | |
the raw footage was no touching up.
The Nikon has done a reasonable job. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
The stitching point is more visible
on the Kodak, partly because of the | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
different qualities of those two
lenses. On the upside, it is Kodak | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
that offers the ability to play with
how the images are stitched together | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
in its free software, something the
Nikon's more basic offering lacks. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
For sheer fun, the Kodak also offers
greater flexibility when playing | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
back what you shot. This is little
planet mode. If you want to do it on | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
the Nikon you will need some
third-party 360 software which may | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
need additional cost. -- mean
additional cost. Finally, beating | 0:18:41 | 0:18:46 | |
everybody forgets when they use a
camera, sound. It is very odd being | 0:18:46 | 0:18:52 | |
filmed. We are being filmed as well,
it is 360. And goodness me. You can | 0:18:52 | 0:18:58 | |
tell she has had too much cider, it
is moving around a bit. I'm just | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
called! We reckon both do a great
job, but the nickel is slightly | 0:19:03 | 0:19:08 | |
clearer. Although the Kodak offers
the possibility of attaching an | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
external microphone. So which camera
will enthusiasts be hoping Santa | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
brings them this year? We believe
the Kodak edges it for easier | 0:19:14 | 0:19:20 | |
postproduction, while the Nikon has
a better shot. But if you are hoping | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
for a trouble-free, cinematic
seamless result for under £400, you | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
may have to wait until something
else takes off. At least for now. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:42 | |
This is Acute art, a virtual reality
arts platform and a gallery without | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
walls. And it is about to launch
with the VR works by some of the | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
world's leading contemporary
artists. Amongst these works is won | 0:19:51 | 0:20:02 | |
by Marina Abramovitch, these
self-confessed grandmother of | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
performance arts who pushes her body
to the limits to challenge and move | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
people. Well, there is Marina. In a
tank of water. Well, she seems to | 0:20:08 | 0:20:24 | |
want to talk to me, but the water is
rising up her body. Immersive | 0:20:24 | 0:20:34 | |
player, in real life, where someone
rescues another person, or offers | 0:20:34 | 0:20:41 | |
aid of any kind, there is a transfer
of energy. Approach the water. I | 0:20:41 | 0:20:52 | |
think she wants me to touch the
glass. Make contact. Oh. Oh, OK, | 0:20:52 | 0:21:04 | |
right. Now I am somewhere very cold
and everything seems to be going | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
wrong. As always, with VR, you
really get a sense of scale. But ice | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
shelf looks absolutely enormous. And
it is crashing down right in front | 0:21:13 | 0:21:19 | |
of me. This work is an expression of
Marina's fear that humans will not | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
survive the consequences of climate
change if we don't change our | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
behaviour. I'm being covered in
spray. And now there is a note. I | 0:21:27 | 0:21:41 | |
will walk instead of drive. I will
reuse what I can. I will reduce the | 0:21:41 | 0:21:46 | |
wayside cause. Marina wants to leave
the participants with a feeling they | 0:21:46 | 0:21:53 | |
should do something good for the
planet. We have to save this planet | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
that we are living on. I want to
create a little contract with the | 0:21:57 | 0:22:05 | |
planet Earth, and give my word
honour that I will do something to | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
save it. -- literal contract.
SCREAMING. You are pretty well-known | 0:22:09 | 0:22:17 | |
for pushing your body further than
most people would want to push their | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
bodies. Here, you appear virtually
in a tank of water, but I get the | 0:22:21 | 0:22:28 | |
sense that you still need some
pretty real stuff to make it seem as | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
real as possible? You know,
actually, to do this, I have to | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
really be in the water. We did it in
a swimming pool, with two divers | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
holding my legs. So I can really go
in and see can feel like I would | 0:22:41 | 0:22:49 | |
actually die if I didn't have any
more air to breathe. It is funny | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
that you have to do something which
is virtual, but you still have to do | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
it physically. Before, you said you
don't think your performances can be | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
captured adequately with photos or
videos because you need to be there, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
you need the experiences, it is
about actually physically being | 0:23:05 | 0:23:13 | |
there. I wonder if virtual reality
is close enough to being the, and | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
that is why you chose it, because it
is almost being there? It is very | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
important, the energy dialogue
between the audience and the | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
performer. And the only thing that
can catch it, before it was video | 0:23:25 | 0:23:30 | |
with sound and movement, but virtual
reality is really another step | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
further, because you can go around
the objects, you can interact, you | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
can do this. But still, I think it
is a question of how much energy and | 0:23:37 | 0:23:42 | |
charisma can actually transfer from
the real performance into the | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
virtual body. The rather mesmerising
Marina Abramovic. We will hear more | 0:23:46 | 0:23:57 | |
from Marina in next week's
programme, which is the Christmas | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
show, so expect tons of sensible
journalism and no fun whatsoever. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Maybe. In the meantime, you can
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click. Thanks for watching, and we | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
will see you next week for
Christmas. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:25 |