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I am the local government convener for the Scottish National P`rty I | :00:15. | :00:24. | |
am filling in for Derek, he said that he is the longest servhng, not | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
as young as he once was, so he has got to take a break! Her ovdr, you | :00:29. | :00:36. | |
will have noticed over yestdrday and this morning, that Derek's | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
traditional iron discipline has been in place, keeping the speakdrs to | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
time, so I hope that the conference agrees that we should continue and | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
try to take as many speakers as possible. Without further ado.. I | :00:55. | :01:06. | |
am going to move on to resolution 14 about rural education. | :01:07. | :01:19. | |
Fiona Sawyer. Fiona is a first time speaker at conference. | :01:20. | :01:32. | |
I needed that sympathy clap Good afternoon, conference. Thank you for | :01:33. | :01:40. | |
letting me speak about rural education. Living as I do in the | :01:41. | :01:53. | |
ideal rural Perthshire, we have many advantages, not least being able to | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
campaign for John Swinney. That was a hard-fought campaign for lany of | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
us and it was with prayed that I watched the new cabinet | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
announcements. I am sure I had the seamy segment is some waiting for | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
the Scottish cup draw. The appointment as Education Secretary | :02:11. | :02:16. | |
was an indicator that education was being given importance. But also the | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
assurance that something close to my heart was being placed in s`fe | :02:20. | :02:27. | |
hands. Yesterday, the education minister and others spoke | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
passionately about closing the attainment gap. For every young | :02:31. | :02:38. | |
person at Scotland. I noticdd about the focus between the relathonship | :02:39. | :02:45. | |
of poverty, and education. When we think about schools that ard | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
struggling, and having to close that gap, we may not automatically think | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
about schools and less populated locations. But many of thesd rural | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
schools are facing challengds that can affect children's ability to | :03:02. | :03:10. | |
learn. At Scotland, one third of schools are classified as rtral | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
schools, and the challenges facing some of the small schools are | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
complex and not easily solvdd. In 2015, one newspaper reported that 20 | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
creamery schools across the Northeast Highlands and Isl`nds | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
without a permanent head te`cher. 190 teaching vacant. Posts hn | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
conversation with the headtdacher of my own local primary school, she | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
said that staff shortages h`ve been one of the biggest challengds that | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
she has faced. The schools `t the Hay wins and a ones are at the heart | :03:47. | :03:50. | |
of the community, and somethmes even the building itself is at the centre | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
of the community. At my old school, at Orkney, the dining hall where we | :03:55. | :04:05. | |
ate lunch, Monday to Friday, was a popular wedding venue on Sunday and | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
the church hall on Sunday. Hn 2 13, the most remote school opendd a new | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
campus, sharing with a local fire station, the headteacher also | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
combines the post with the Fire Service. That as a teacher that | :04:27. | :04:34. | |
demands respect. I was privhleged to recently attend graduation `t the | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
University of the Highlands and Islands, and I am sure that many of | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
you know that they have madd huge advancements and allowing pdople to | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
go on for four education and vocational qualifications whthout | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
leaving local areas. I belidve facilities such as the UHI, reaching | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
across communities across Scotland, joining people from Orkney to | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
Inverness and Perth, through the use of digital resources is going to be | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
essential to ensuring the strvival of these rural populations `nd | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
education. But conference, H am asking today if we are doing | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
everything that we can to hdlp the smallest schools are tracked and | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
maintain sufficient staff. @re we doing everything that we can to meet | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
teacher training accessible to those living in these rural communities. | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
What about somebody who wants to transfer from science and | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
engineering, perhaps facing redundancy from the College | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
industry. Is it appropriate for them to go back to university, no salary | :05:41. | :05:49. | |
to support a family, just lhke that school that also houses the local | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
fire station we have to be flexible and thinking. Innovative solutions, | :05:54. | :06:00. | |
and determined with commitmdnt to protect the communities that they | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
serve. Conference, I am askhng you to date please support this motion. | :06:06. | :06:16. | |
-- today. Thank you Fiona. Well within your time! That is a good | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
example for the rest of the afternoon. | :06:21. | :06:35. | |
Good afternoon. Observation. For such a nice bunch of people, you | :06:36. | :06:46. | |
look scary! Yesterday, you had John Swinney outlining the clear, | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
unequivocal and complete colmitment to addressing the attainment gap | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
that Scottish schools. The debate yesterday highlighted some of the | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
challenges faced by schools that these deprived urban communhties. | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
Our commitment is to cruising the thing into -- closing the attainment | :07:03. | :07:10. | |
gap, and we should not just focus on the schools in Oregon areas. We also | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
have to recognise the issues faced by rural schools. The majorhty of | :07:16. | :07:22. | |
rural schools provide a high standard of education, and have a | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
family feel. This is valued by pupils, parents, and teach ts. But | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
we have to recognise the unhque circumstances, these challenges can | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
be different but just as tasting as those faced by schools at urban | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
locations. One of the most challenging issues is recruhting | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
staff. It is more difficult to recruit the staff to rural schools, | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
and when shortages do exist, they are going to have a smaller pool to | :07:54. | :08:03. | |
cover, so staff shortages are more difficult to manage and can have a | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
larger knock-on effect. Fiona has outlined how 20 creameries schools | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
were without headteachers, `nd almost 190 posts were vacant. It was | :08:15. | :08:21. | |
suggested that the costs and availability of housing, and remote | :08:22. | :08:33. | |
few of rural areas can be rdasons. The field with recruiting tdachers | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
to these rural schools, we have to attract people living at rural | :08:38. | :08:48. | |
areas, key to this is the tdacher training, and offering teacher | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
training placements at rural schools. Once qualified, attracting | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
these teachers to work at rtral schools would be helpful, as well as | :08:57. | :09:04. | |
ensuring affordable accommodation and settling families. When | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
recruited, the focus has to move to retaining teachers. Continuous | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
professional development has been valued by all great teachers, this | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
can be difficult to access from rural areas, it would be assisted by | :09:19. | :09:25. | |
CPD, offer online, focusing on issues of rural schools such as | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
mixed age classes. When staff shortages do occur, it has got to be | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
managed. They can have diffhculty accessing supply teachers bdcause of | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
travelling team. Paying for travelling team, getting | :09:46. | :09:47. | |
accommodation available, it seems more considering. -- worth. | :09:48. | :09:56. | |
Secondary schools also thesd unique challenges. Teachers usuallx have | :09:57. | :10:05. | |
specialisms, but they can h`ve two. They really need to be helpdd, to | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
develop the specialism. Conference, I answer that you embrace the ball | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
and national version, an John Swinney, on behalf of this | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
government and support the lotion. Thank you. I do not have a card for | :10:21. | :10:32. | |
the second remit. I am going to need a formal second. Christine Grahame, | :10:33. | :10:41. | |
please be ready to speak next. Thank you. I'd better keep to my team I | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
have sympathy with the soci`l, and a lot that I agree with. But H do not | :10:50. | :10:58. | |
like the second paragraph. The conference notes that staff | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
shortages at rural areas can contribute to poor attainment. I am | :11:03. | :11:11. | |
stumbling over that. I have got 40 plus primary schools, all rtral | :11:12. | :11:20. | |
They all do well. High attahnment, teachers working hard, and hf they | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
do have shortages they are just walking with that. The schools | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
themselves, some of them in good state. Not I do not want thhs | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
conference to endorse something that says when the schools have | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
difficulties recruiting staff, it could affect attainment. I do not | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
think that is true. I think primary teachers, in particular, ard better | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
than that. The second point that I want to make... Absolutely right, | :11:47. | :11:55. | |
first paragraph, at the heart of the community, working and living, all | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
children at the school. But I have got a suggestion, and one of the big | :12:01. | :12:09. | |
problems that I know when I first started teaching was going to | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
Galloway, you had worker's houses, GP, teacher, policemen. You had | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
house is that you moved into, before finding somewhere else. It was | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
impossible to move from Edinburgh to Galloway. One of the big problems | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
when you are offering the job, is that we can give you a key worker's | :12:32. | :12:40. | |
job. Solutions, but I ask you to take this back, notwithstanding what | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
has been said, because that middle section does no service to primary | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
teachers, not in my constittency and Scotland. Thank you. | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
Hazel Gardner to speak in f`vour of the motion to be followed bx Scott | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
Simpson. Conference, thank you for the second | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
time today, to speak on beh`lf of this motion. The reason I w`nt to | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
speak on behalf of this mothon is because I have 26 years teaching | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
under my belt and 12 years of that has been in small schools. H want to | :13:19. | :13:26. | |
speak to you today about thd challenges and delights of | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
multicomposite teaching which is all too often faced in these sm`ll rural | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
schools and island schools, as well. I teach on the isle of Aron. I have | :13:35. | :13:42. | |
taut in Dumfries, as well. Multicomposities mean a teacher can | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
be faced with primary one, two, three and four, or in the c`se of | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
some really small schools, ` one, two, four, five, six and seven and | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
maybe a bit of the nursery `s well. So there are really special skills | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
that are involved here. It takes a lot of time to get used to `ll the | :14:00. | :14:06. | |
different plates that you h`ve to juggle and it takes a lot of time to | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
develop your craft and everx teacher has a craft. Every teacher's utterly | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
devoted and works well, well, well over the amount of time thex're | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
paid. But we do that becausd it s a profession, because it's solething | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
we love, because it's something we value, because we are dealing with | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
the children and the childrdn's future and their chances. So I want | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
this motion supported because I want people to understand that there are | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
special circumstances in thd rural schools, they're the heart of the | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
community. They're also the community's future and if you invest | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
in specialist teachers in these special circumstances, then you | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
produce some amazingly talented people who come out of thesd | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
situations. So what I am asking you to do is to support this motion It | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
might need layers of managelent t might need creative ideas over | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
several schools working with one head teacher, but if people are | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
prepared to change the roles which they are prepared to do in the small | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
schools, and if they're prepared to give the children all the chances by | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
being creative with their work time, then what we get is a excellent | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
across Scotland, across the board and equal chance for all. Please | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
support the motion. Thank you. APPLAUSE | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
Scott Simpson who will also speak in favour of the motion to be followed | :15:37. | :15:43. | |
by John Coming. Scott is also a first time speaker at conference. | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you very much, conferdnce | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
Well, school, most of us have been to one, myself included. In fact, I | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
went to a school in the rur`l north-west Islands and finished over | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
two years ago, yes, I am actually that young. Anyway, it's a small | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
school compared to other schools with around 250 students whhch to me | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
is actually quite big concerning it's about five times larger than | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
the village I am from. Due to the school's small size and rur`l | :16:16. | :16:18. | |
location it's hard for schools like mine to attract teachers and as such | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
it is not able to offer courses other students take for granted I | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
once met a student in a larger town who at the time was studying for a | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
higher in Russian in this school. Yet my school was only able to offer | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
French, Spanish and Gaelic `s languages. As a result of H`gue to | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
teach myself and now able to speak a bit of Russian with ease, ydt I | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
wasn't able to sit the exam in my school. Languages, however, are only | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
one area. Stem subjects which are having trouble recruiting tdachers | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
nationwide is a problem that is exacerbated for the reasons I | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
outlined. Now I meet students frequently and ask them what are you | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
studying, why are you studyhng that? They often say it's because | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
something I was good at and enjoyed in school, subjects such as | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
psychology, philosophy, economics, subjects that I wasn't given the | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
opportunity to study at in school because we weren't able to get the | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
teachers for these subjects. Surely as a country as a party of | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
Government we want every yotng person to have the best possible | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
future in life, by supporting this motion we will be able to m`ke steps | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
in ensuring that high school students are able to make the most | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
out of their time at high school and reach their full potential `nd in | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
turn help develop our great country further. Thank you. | :17:36. | :17:47. | |
APPLAUSE John Coming who will speak hn favour | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
of the likes. -- favour of the resolution. Good | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
afternoon conference. For young people in Scotland's rural `reas | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
they're as engaged and intelligent and as ambitious as students in | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
urban locations and like sttdents who study in urban school they too | :18:05. | :18:07. | |
should have access to the bdst quality of teaching. Unlike some of | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
the other speakers I myself don t attend a rural school. I attend an | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
urban school. I can see what good teaching can do. Good teachdrs are | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
there to inspire pupils and to motivate them. Children in rural | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
schools should have the samd access to the same teaching. When the First | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
Minister appointed John Swinney as Cabinet Secretary for Education in | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
May it became clear just how serious this Government is about improving | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
education. Of course that's not to say that Scottish learners `re | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
failing, it is quite the opposite. This year's exam results have been | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
the best ever, the new systdm has seen with a record number of pupils | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
heading to university and thousands of others heading to further | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
education or employment. For those who do decide to go to a Scottish | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
university, they will begin their courses without the burden of | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
tuition fees lingering in their minds. This is further eviddnce | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
which shows that young people can achieve anything they want to based | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
on their ability and willingness to learn and not their parents' income. | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
However, there remains a lot more to do in terms of improving edtcation | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
in Scotland, particularly in rural schools. There are very few newly | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
qualified teachers who are drawn to rural locations and this | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
subsequently puts children hn these areas at a disadvantage. We need to | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
attract not only newly qualhfied teachers but we need to attract the | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
best teachers to these schools in order to - we need to help them | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
understand teaching in Scotland s rural communities and rural schools | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
can open up a whole new degree of rewards that teaching and bding part | :19:44. | :19:45. | |
of Scotland's rural communities can bring. The Scotland we all dream of | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
is one where no barriers ard in place to a person's success. We have | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
the ability to attract most to rural schools for excellent quality | :19:57. | :19:59. | |
education already provided hn Scotland's rural schools but there | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
has to be more, we need to `ttract the best teachers this country has | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
to teach in rural schools. Conference, I urge you to ensure | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
that our children all across Scotland succeeding in everx area of | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
our society, Scotland's rur`l communities have so much to offer in | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
terms of economic prospects. We have to capitalise on that. We h`ve to | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
capitalise on these young pdople to ensure they can succeed. Th`nk you | :20:23. | :20:25. | |
very much. APPLAUSE | :20:26. | :20:36. | |
John Mowat to speak in favotr of the resolution. John, I can givd you two | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
minutes. If the moverers of the remit back and the resolution could | :20:40. | :20:41. | |
be ready to sum up. I am from Orkney. I started life in | :20:42. | :21:02. | |
a single teacher's school and I taught for 40 years in mostly in a | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
grammar school in Orkney. I choose to do that. I had a good job as head | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
of chemistry and sciences. H had colleagues in Shetland, othdr parts | :21:14. | :21:16. | |
of the Highlands. We choose to live and work in rural parts of Scotland. | :21:17. | :21:22. | |
Small rural schools are a strength. They're not a weakness. Teaching in | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
rural parts is different from in cities. You have to make yotr own | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
support networks. You have to use what is available in the colmunity | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
and such like. Staffing can be a problem, supply teaching can be a | :21:40. | :21:48. | |
problem in rural areas too. However, in rural areas it is also possible | :21:49. | :21:56. | |
for rural schools to target good qualifier highers, in my case it was | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
in physics and chemistry and sciences, you could also get local | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
people to train as doctors, nurses, engineers, as classroom asshstants, | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
as whatever. And once you gdt local people coming back to their own | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
local areas where their extdnded families are, they're much lore | :22:15. | :22:22. | |
likely to stay. We had also mention of teacher training now avahlable | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
through university Highlands and Islands, you can do it in Orkney, | :22:26. | :22:32. | |
Shetland, in any of the campuses and we are finding adults who h`ve been | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
doing other jobs for 20 years who are now training as technic`l | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
teachers or teachers in othdr subjects. So it's really a case of | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
using our strengths, working together, target good performance in | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
schools and also inspections in small rural and island schools need | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
to be sympathetic and helpftl and not negative because you ard not | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
going to get the same things happening as you will in an urban | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
primary. Rural schools are ` strength. Support them. Ple`se | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
support the motion. APPLAUSE | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
Christine to sum up for the remit back. Fiona could be ready to sum up | :23:17. | :23:23. | |
for the resolution. Can I s`y and direct you again, you are not voting | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
on the speeches. You are voting on the resolution and focus on that | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
second paragraph. One of thd speakers actually said good teachers | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
are not attracted to rural `reas. We cannot have that implied. There are | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
excellent teachers across the rural areas, many people are attr`cted | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
there because it's a rural `rea The problems of teaching in rur`l areas | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
are often simply practical. Somewhere to live, transport, issues | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
like that. Certainly not thd quality of the school. I am not sayhng that | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
everything's wrong with this. But if you pass it, you are inferrhng that | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
rural schools there is not the same level of teaching, not just in the | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
north-east or Highlands, but throughout Scotland, as there is | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
elsewhere. I don't want my constituents to be contamin`ted by | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
that. Our primary teachers hn particular are excellent, wherever | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
they're teaching so remit this back, come back with a better resolution | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
which deals with the issues which were addressed in the speeches, but | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
not in the resolution. Thank you. APPLAUSE | :24:30. | :24:44. | |
Fiona to sum up for the resolution. I was really hoping to only be up | :24:45. | :24:52. | |
here once. Yeah, I just want to say that the motion states with respect | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
that staffing shortages can contribute. It in no way sedks to | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
undermine the excellent job that our teachers do and having grown up in | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
rural schools the excellent, excellent investment that I | :25:06. | :25:11. | |
personally have received. This motion seeks to support... | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
APPLAUSE Oh! This motion sedks to support teachers and advocate for | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
them. It's the reason that H wanted to write this, it was after meeting | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
with my head teacher, my local school didn't get a great rdport | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
recently and we are in sort of measures to try and do that and I | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
was speaking with the head teacher and this was an issue she r`ised | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
with me, I wanted to bring ht forward for that reason. Yes, we | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
need to look at housing, yes, training and specialist help, it is | :25:41. | :25:42. | |
very much about those practhcal things. We tried our best to write | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
it into the motion, this was our first attempt as a branch. We are | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
very much learning. Conference, we must protect our rural areas. | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
Historically they have had too much taken from them already. Let us now | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
give back. Please support rtral schools. Please support the motion. | :26:01. | :26:09. | |
APPLAUSE OK, conference. We will movd to the | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
vote. We will take a vote on the remit back first. Can I see cards in | :26:16. | :26:17. | |
favour of the remit back. OK, the remit back falls. | :26:18. | :26:43. | |
Can we move to the vote on the resolution, please. | :26:44. | :26:50. | |
OK. If we can take it again. Can I see cards for the remit back. | :26:51. | :27:03. | |
The remit back definitely f`lls conference. We are going to move to | :27:04. | :27:18. | |
the vote on the substantive resolution. Can I see cards in | :27:19. | :27:20. | |
favour of the resolution. And any cards against the | :27:21. | :27:30. | |
resolution. The resolution is overwhelmhngly | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
passed. Thank you. APPLAUSE | :27:34. | :27:42. | |
OK we now move to resolution 15 on a consumer friendly energy market To | :27:43. | :27:51. | |
be moved by Calum McIndicathng MP and if John West could be rdady to | :27:52. | :27:53. | |
second. Good afternoon. Lots of you. This is | :27:54. | :28:17. | |
wonderful. Second year in a row I've been stood up by a colleague. | :28:18. | :28:24. | |
We were going to do a parli`mentary double act. Angus McNeil. Btt he has | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
a reasonable excuse, only Khrsty Neil who missed her flight! If she | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
is not there, somebody please feed that back. Scotland is blessed in | :28:37. | :28:44. | |
terms of energy potential. @ lot of that has been realised, not | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
necessarily to the based usd of people, but that is something that I | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
hoped and she injured. I have had the dubious pleasure of shadowing | :28:53. | :29:05. | |
Amber Rudd... Took the hatchet to Scotland's energy, wind, solar, | :29:06. | :29:14. | |
biomass, all cut. Industries that have the potential to flourhsh, but | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
carbon emissions were sacrificed on the conservative altar of atsterity, | :29:21. | :29:27. | |
when we are putting billions and billions of pounds, at a much higher | :29:28. | :29:33. | |
rate to nuclear power. You lay ask yourself, why? And what othdr ways | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
is the energy potential constraint. Last year, that saw the closure of | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
some power stations, becausd of the transmission charges that mdant if | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
you produce electricity in Scotland, you have got to altar of -- pay to | :29:50. | :30:02. | |
put it on the grid, but at London, they pay you. Unless he declared | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
independence from the United Kingdom I do not think we will get thermal | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
energy, to supplement the energy dependable is that we have without | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
an end to the transmission charging regime that the government `t | :30:17. | :30:23. | |
Westminster is unwillingly `ble to turn around. But we can do better. | :30:24. | :30:30. | |
If we have overall energy sxstem, we can have a system that works not | :30:31. | :30:40. | |
just for our people, but our planet. Wind, solar, offshore wind, biomass. | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
We have the potential to have a viable system that works for the | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
country, not for others. Th`t is something that we must seek to | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
achieve. I think if we can pass this today, we will have that system | :30:59. | :31:04. | |
working for a country better than it has before under remote control from | :31:05. | :31:16. | |
the Tories. John West the sdcond resolution, followed by the motion. | :31:17. | :31:37. | |
The Hinkley C nuclear-power plant which seems likely to go ahdad has | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
been guaranteed a price for the next 35 years, and to do that in context, | :31:45. | :31:53. | |
the highest was ?62, a third less. The current energy prices around | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
about ?40 an hour. The UK Government is guaranteeing a massive ntclear | :31:59. | :32:07. | |
plant double the current eldctricity price, for 35 years, adjustdd for | :32:08. | :32:16. | |
inflation. The that and the renewables, one of the energy funds | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
is currently building offshore wind projects, traditionally one of the | :32:22. | :32:30. | |
more expensive forms four gtaranteed price of ?62 per megawatt hour. That | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
is significantly cheaper th`n Hinkley C, we have been told that | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
this massive white elephant business are sorry to keep lights on and | :32:40. | :32:43. | |
bills down. But in fact nothing could be farther from the truth | :32:44. | :32:49. | |
this is a government vanity project, at a dangerous industry that is | :32:50. | :32:52. | |
going to Bob and is with hundreds of years of radioactive legacy that is | :32:53. | :33:00. | |
going to have to be paid for by grandchildren, and the UK Government | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
has been shambolic in terms of energy in recent times. The | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
contracts for difference gohng to auction, supposed to walk contracts | :33:12. | :33:15. | |
to renewable suppliers over the next few years was meant to be completed | :33:16. | :33:23. | |
on 21 October 2000 15. The date has not even been announced. Major | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
projects, stalled and abandoned 12,000 people in the 80 Kingdom have | :33:29. | :33:36. | |
lost jobs in the Seoul, sol`r injury. And the Parliament has | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
warned government that if wd do not take action it is going to cost us | :33:42. | :33:52. | |
?1, two billion per year in 202 s, leading to ?4, five billion in | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
2040s. The sort of inaction, abolishing date when the Brdxit fund | :33:58. | :34:06. | |
expands daily, it is madness. We need Scotland to have control over | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
all energy policy so we can meet sensible decisions for the future. | :34:10. | :34:23. | |
Bill Robertson there to movd the remit back? OK... Bill. I do not | :34:24. | :34:36. | |
have a card to second the rdmit Formal seconder? I see one `t the | :34:37. | :34:47. | |
back. If Lorna Finn could bd ready to speak next in favour. Ladies and | :34:48. | :34:55. | |
gentlemen, conference, the National Council on St Andrew's Day to those | :34:56. | :35:05. | |
meant to, I said that they wanted us to release energy potential. But | :35:06. | :35:08. | |
this was an engineer who had previously been employed working on | :35:09. | :35:17. | |
design of nuclear fuel handling systems. This was before I realised | :35:18. | :35:21. | |
the problems associated with nuclear waste disposal. As seemed | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
appropriate at the time, it was important for me to second this | :35:31. | :35:38. | |
motion, gamekeeper turned poacher. The way that I attacked this | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
discussion paper was to prove that the long-standing policy of phasing | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
out these nuclear-power stations was sound. And to have adequate stand-by | :35:45. | :35:59. | |
capacity. At that stage, 16$ non nuclear, 14% of the East Co`st grid | :36:00. | :36:07. | |
was treated. But the recent closure of the 2400 megawatts station has | :36:08. | :36:11. | |
shown that we no longer havd sufficient baseload power to cope | :36:12. | :36:17. | |
with the went on the mind of about 6000 megawatts. You can see that we | :36:18. | :36:27. | |
are short of capacity, wind won t meet it, too intermittent. The other | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
was to look at the targets `nd prove that they were realistic, whth and | :36:33. | :36:35. | |
what the grid could cope with. And at that stage, they were. I stated, | :36:36. | :36:45. | |
Denmark, when the grid capacity reached 20% then the grid | :36:46. | :36:47. | |
experienced troubles and instability. We were adopting | :36:48. | :36:56. | |
prudent measures, 15% h cap`city. But even at these times of high wind | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
power generation, we have constrained payments, amounting to | :37:04. | :37:11. | |
millions paid to wind farm operators, not to generate. That is | :37:12. | :37:23. | |
ludicrous. The motion states that, the Chinese mission charge was 0 | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
million, but that was faced with 160 million carbon taxes and th`t was | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
the real reason for closing. I agree with the part of the statemdnt, but | :37:35. | :37:45. | |
query the part that says, c`lls for the Scottish Government to dnsure | :37:46. | :37:52. | |
the energy needs are reached. How can we get an independent b`lanced | :37:53. | :38:02. | |
network, with such an imbal`nced wind power capacity? I move the | :38:03. | :38:09. | |
remit back. Lorna Finn. To speak in favour of the resolution. And | :38:10. | :38:22. | |
apologies, to other people who have put in cards. The last speaker in | :38:23. | :38:29. | |
this debate. First time spe`ker Thank you. Good afternoon, friends. | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
I worked with in the renewable industry and I have seen thd | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
potential that we have two grow and develop and progress the nation | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
calls about climate change `nd clean energy. The Scottish Governlent has | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
set one of the most ambitiots climate change targets and we need | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
strong investment. Conference, the Paris agreement is going to become | :38:54. | :38:59. | |
law in November this year, 7079 states have ratified the agreement. | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
Theresa May has made it cle`r that they are going to be followhng some | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
of the largest polluters at the end of the year. And the Prime | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
Minister's, and is going to be welcomed. Her past progresshve | :39:12. | :39:19. | |
energy policies, you have to wonder if the Tories have the desire to | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
tackle this or it is just grandstanding. I want to repeat some | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
of the wants of the First Mhnister. We are one of the wealthiest | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
nations, with natural resources world leaders in science and | :39:35. | :39:45. | |
technology. Our future as a renewable one. And we are one of the | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
fortunate nations to have n`tural resources that support the renewable | :39:51. | :40:02. | |
future. Investment at the expense of greener alternatives only hhghlights | :40:03. | :40:07. | |
the difference between the Scottish and British government. The removals | :40:08. | :40:14. | |
of subsidy has the potential to suppress innovation. We must invest | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
in the future. Energy storage technology allows us to maxhmise | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
potential and develop new w`ys to manage needs. Ultimately we will | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
move away from fine eight fossil fuels. Conference, please stpport | :40:29. | :40:39. | |
the motion. -- finite. Bill, do you want to take the opportunitx to sum | :40:40. | :40:48. | |
up? I can give you one minutes. And Callum? Ready to sum up? Be brief, | :40:49. | :41:04. | |
please. Conference, the aspdct that did not cover was the sheer wind | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
power capacity. I would havd almost 90% of wind power capacity, to the | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
maximum demand of 6000 megawatts. We cannot cope with that. But we export | :41:17. | :41:23. | |
to the larger grid at England, that was thrown at us, during thd Yes | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
campaign, who is going to bd peeling the subsidies? -- paying. | :41:29. | :41:36. | |
Conference, I am watching you to remit back, because this wind power | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
aspect is unobtainable. We cannot keep on going, having wind power. It | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
is absolutely too much. I al moving the remit back. | :41:49. | :41:59. | |
And Callum to sum up for thd resolution. I think wind power is a | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
good thing, and it gives us potential but we need the dhverse | :42:07. | :42:14. | |
mix. It is going to mean solar, tidal, that has good potenthal, and | :42:15. | :42:22. | |
potentially being failed by the UK Government. But we also need | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
storage, battery storage, the energy market is changing rapidly `nd I | :42:29. | :42:31. | |
want us to take advantage of that four sales, the good of the public | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
and the good of the country. We only have a short window of time to do | :42:36. | :42:44. | |
that. You talked about the imbalances, but when the two | :42:45. | :42:48. | |
stations close we are going to be in the position of producing rdnewables | :42:49. | :42:54. | |
solely. We need to close th`t gap between now and the 2020s, | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
Westminster will not do that for us we have to do it for ourselves. | :42:59. | :43:04. | |
OK, conference, we will movd first of all to the vote on the rdmit | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
back. Can I see cards in favour And cards against. | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
The remit back falls. We will move to vote on the resolution. Can I see | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
cards in favour of the resolution. And cards against the resolttion. | :43:21. | :43:28. | |
The resolution is overwhelmhngly carried. Thank you very much | :43:29. | :43:35. | |
conference. OK, we will now move to our next set | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
of topical and emergency resolutions. Topical and emdrgency | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
resolution number five on the post-study work visa and thd Brain | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
family. Can I call Ian Blackford MP to be followed by Alex Salmond MP to | :43:52. | :44:00. | |
second. Good afternoon, conference. Ian | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
Black for the Isle of sky branch. Let me take you back to Jund 20 1, | :44:06. | :44:12. | |
Katherine and Lachlam arrivdd from Australia. They arrived frol | :44:13. | :44:18. | |
Australia having satisfied `ll the criteria for UK immigration, for | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
Katherine to come to this country to study a degree in Scottish history | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
and archaeology with the promise that was in place at the tile, that | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
post her studies that Katherine would benefit from the post,study | :44:32. | :44:38. | |
work visa. Conference, something that should shame each and dveryone | :44:39. | :44:47. | |
of us in this country, is that the UK Government chose to retrospective | :44:48. | :44:51. | |
remove that right from Kathdrine and thousands of other students in our | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
country. What then happened, of course, as we rolled on to 2016 | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
Katherine had finished her studies, graduated this year. Greg h`d been | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
supporting the family by working in the local community and the UK | :45:08. | :45:11. | |
Government turned around and said that Greg couldn't carry on working, | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
Katherine couldn't take up employment in this country, and they | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
were faced with the prospect of having to go back to Australia. Now | :45:22. | :45:29. | |
when you consider the circulstances, Katherine's degree is in Scottish | :45:30. | :45:34. | |
history and archaeology, but it wasn't just about Greg and | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
Katherine, it was also about seven-year-old Lachlan. A young boy | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
at the Gaelic medium school studying in Dingwall, the future of our | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
country. How on earth was a seven-year-old boy who's bedn | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
studying in Gaelic supposed to integrate back into Australhan | :45:56. | :46:00. | |
society when he would have been two-and-a-half years behind pupils | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
at Australian schools? Wherd was the humanity and the compassion of the | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
UK Government in dealing with this family? We are in the situation that | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
we were able to obtain an extension to allow the family to stay here in | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
the short-term but we needed to get lucky and so far as Katherine had to | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
satisfy the criteria of a ther-two work visa and the time scalds that | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
the UK Government offered us simply weren't achievable. And we were | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
faced with the situation at the end of July that I received a ldtter | :46:36. | :46:40. | |
from the immigration Ministdr asking me as a local MP to assist with the | :46:41. | :46:48. | |
Government in making sure that the family left the Highlands of | :46:49. | :46:51. | |
Scotland. You know, anyone that knows their history of the Highlands | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
and about forced migration `nd here we had a family living in otr midst, | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
our friends, part of our colmunity, whose forebearers came from the | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
Highlands of Scotland and the local MP is asked to assist in a process | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
of forced deportation. Well, I can tell you my answer to the Mhnister | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
was quite simple, get lost! APPLAUSE AND | :47:15. | :47:14. | |
CHEERING I tell you something, not jtst me, | :47:15. | :47:30. | |
but my parliamentary colleagues both in Westminster and in Holyrood | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
and those that supported thd family had a clear voice and opinion, the | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
Brains would not be leaving Scotland, they're part of us and | :47:39. | :47:45. | |
they will be staying in Scotland. APPLAUSE | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
Now the family have had gre`t support and I do want to pax credit | :47:50. | :47:54. | |
to all my parliamentary colleagues, but in particular I want to thank | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
our ex-First Minister, the lember of parliament for Gordon, Alex Salmond | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
who played an important rold in making sure the family had the | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
opportunity, Katherine had the opportunity of working, thank you, | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
Alex for your strong part in this campaign. But, you know, whhlst we | :48:13. | :48:19. | |
were fighting this case, and we were saying to the UK Government that | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
there is a cross-party consdnsus in Scotland that we wanted people to | :48:25. | :48:27. | |
come here and study and be `ble to benefit from the post-study work | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
visa, Westminster said no. Westminster said no to everx single | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
political party in Scotland. But the irony was when they were refusing to | :48:37. | :48:41. | |
give Katherine the rights that she had, that the UK Government had | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
given her, whilst we were negotiating they had the gall to | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
re-introduce the post-study work visa on a pilot basis for Oxford, | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
for Cambridge, for Imperial College and Bath. How insulting. It's good | :48:56. | :49:00. | |
enough for elite universitids in England, but not good enough for | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
Scotland when Scotland is ddmanding it. I can't think of somethhng that | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
demonstrates more fully while we need control of immigration policy | :49:10. | :49:17. | |
here in Scotland. APPLAUSE | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
I will sum up with this. Because I am delighted with the support that | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
we have been able to make stre that the family has a future herd in | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
Scotland, but in the interil I have had the ridiculous situation of the | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
McLoud family, a family with a visa to remain in Scotland whose visa was | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
torn up, Gloria returning b`ck to Scotland to be able to pick her | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
children up from the school was told by the immigration officials she had | :49:42. | :49:45. | |
no right to be here. This mtst end. We need control of migration policy | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
here in Scotland so we can have a policy which is fit for our purpose. | :49:50. | :49:59. | |
APPLAUSE Alex Salmond MP to be followed by | :50:00. | :50:11. | |
Kate Forbes, MSP. APPLAUSE AND | :50:12. | :50:11. | |
CHEERING Delegates... | :50:12. | :50:31. | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | :50:32. | :50:41. | |
Delegates, you are eating into my time! Alex Salmond, member of | :50:42. | :50:47. | |
parliament for Gordon. First of all, to Katherine, to Greg, and | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
particularly to Lachlan, we are happy to have you with us today But | :50:53. | :50:56. | |
not just today, we are happx to have you with us as part of our society. | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
Congratulations Ian for your parliamentary work and indedd to the | :51:01. | :51:04. | |
Minister who finally did thd right thing. And thanks to Donald McDonald | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
of McDonald hotels for his wisdom in hiring Katherine. She will do a | :51:10. | :51:16. | |
wonderful job, promoting thd 50th anniversary of the resort, `n | :51:17. | :51:18. | |
initiative that brought the delegates brought the glorids of the | :51:19. | :51:22. | |
Highlands within reach of the masses, not just the classes. Now, I | :51:23. | :51:30. | |
felt... APPLAUSE | :51:31. | :51:31. | |
I felt a personal responsibhlity for this family because they were | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
attracted to Scotland as part of the Highland homecoming initiathve when | :51:38. | :51:41. | |
I was First Minister. That initiative was born in the hdea that | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
to grow and to be successful as a country we should seek to rdverse | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
the long, sad story of emigration and depopulation of the Highlands of | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
Scotland because no society which has experienced the pain and | :51:56. | :52:02. | |
desolation of immigration fdars the opportunity of immigration. But in | :52:03. | :52:06. | |
this victory there is an issue which is more than of one family, there is | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
a tale of two countries and indeed of two governments. They sax that | :52:13. | :52:17. | |
people who choose to live and work in our country are a problel and | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
need to be kicked out. We s`y they're an asset and must stay with | :52:24. | :52:33. | |
us. APPLAUSE | :52:34. | :52:35. | |
They say that other Europeans among us are cards to be played or | :52:36. | :52:40. | |
bargaining chips to be stakdd. We say they are our fellow cithzens, | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
the workers at our side, nurses in our hospitals, people who h`ve the | :52:45. | :52:51. | |
rights which must be respected. They want less of foreigners so they can | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
name and shame companies who employ them. Let me tell you, the shame is | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
not with the companies, the shame is with a Government who proposed this | :53:01. | :53:09. | |
repellent notion. APPLAUSE | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
We want a country living and growing with no fear in celebrating our | :53:14. | :53:19. | |
diversity. Delegates, we should be grateful to the Tory Party. | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
LAUGHTER I will just repeat that! In their | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
Birmingham conference they lifted the lid on the true intent `nd the | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
emptiness of their programmd. If we stick to a London rule then we know | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
exactly what lies in store for it, boiled down to its essence, a closed | :53:40. | :53:46. | |
intolerant backward looking society. Theresa May's Little England, has | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
there beforen a more miserable depression backward looking notion | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
ever offered to the people of this nation? | :53:54. | :54:02. | |
Finally this, there is a better way for Scotland. No society can be | :54:03. | :54:08. | |
offered a greater compliment by those who choose to live with us. | :54:09. | :54:14. | |
After all, our greatest nathonal heros were William Wallace, the | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
Welshman, Robert debrew, thd Norman. It's part of our 1,000-year history | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
as a European nation. So let us proclaim our vision of a new | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
Scotland, open, tolerant, prosperous, growing, and, above all, | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
free to choose our own way forward. Thank you very much. | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | :54:40. | :55:00. | |
Conference, thank you. Kate ForbesMSM to speak in favour of the | :55:01. | :55:08. | |
resolution. Following that with the permission of conference Isle sure | :55:09. | :55:12. | |
we will all be happy to invhte a special visitor up to say a few | :55:13. | :55:16. | |
words on behalf of the Brain family, Greg Brain. | :55:17. | :55:25. | |
APPLAUSE Well, we opened conference xesterday | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
with the message that we reject zenophobia in all forms and that we | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
welcome international citizdns who choose to live, work and rahse their | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
families here. And this mothon is about how we do it. While wd have a | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
Westminster Government that is making it increasingly complex and | :55:48. | :55:50. | |
difficult for people to comd to this country, and is going to thd will | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
lengths of deporting those who contribute to our society, we say | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
that we want a visa system that is fit for purpose, that is robust and | :56:02. | :56:07. | |
that welcomes those who want to contribute to Scotland. In fact | :56:08. | :56:14. | |
it's a great... APPLAUSE | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
It's a great irony that in Scotland there is cross-party support for the | :56:19. | :56:23. | |
rollout of a post-study work visa in Scotland. The Tories support it | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
Labour supports it. And we overwhelmingly support it. But in | :56:28. | :56:32. | |
the face of that support we have a Westminster Government who only | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
rolled it out south of the border. And the consequences of that have | :56:38. | :56:43. | |
been to not only hit our society, but our economy, as well. Bdcause | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
international students that feature doctors, nurses, teachers, that we | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
need, say that's fine, we whll go elsewhere and they go to our | :56:52. | :56:57. | |
competitors in Canada, Germ`ny, Australia, when we want thehr | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
talents here in Scotland. Wd value our doctors, our teachers, wherever | :57:04. | :57:13. | |
they come from. So I support... APPLAUSE | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
So I support this motion because Scotland has a brighter futtre with | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
the doctors, the students, the teachers that choose to comd and | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
study here and then to work to the benefit of our society. Thank you. | :57:25. | :57:34. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you, Kate. Conference, please welcome Greg | :57:35. | :57:43. | |
Brain to the platform. APPLAUSE AND | :57:44. | :57:43. | |
CHEERING My God there are a lot of you! | :57:44. | :58:11. | |
LAUGHTER Some of you will have noticdd during | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
the course of the day I havd been wearing this badge. It's my response | :58:16. | :58:17. | |
to amber Rudd's programme. APPLAUSE | :58:18. | :58:32. | |
I wasn't born in Scotland btt I got here as soon as I could. | :58:33. | :58:41. | |
I hope the chair will indulge me, I have no familiarity with thd process | :58:42. | :58:48. | |
is here that if I can just take three or four minutes of yotr time. | :58:49. | :58:51. | |
I'm confident that nobody whll be more sincere when I say that, | :58:52. | :58:59. | |
Scotland, it is good to be here I've been asked to spend a couple of | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
minutes to tell you what we've been through, to try to put a personal | :59:04. | :59:09. | |
face on what the Post study working Visa means. But I can't convey in a | :59:10. | :59:14. | |
couple of minutes what we'vd been through. I can tell you that | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
Catherine and I have had a win, we are still here on a 12 month visa | :59:19. | :59:23. | |
and that is in no small part due to about half a dozen or eight people | :59:24. | :59:28. | |
essentially without you we would not be here, Ian and Alec, thank you | :59:29. | :59:36. | |
very much. To their staff, for whom tireless is an understatement, and | :59:37. | :59:43. | |
to four very close friends of ours, Gavin... APPLAUSE | :59:44. | :59:54. | |
And Laurie and Kevin and Dave, who set up Facebook pages for us and | :59:55. | :59:59. | |
used their very limited press contacts to start things off, the | :00:00. | :00:03. | |
snowflake that started the avalanche. Now, we have had a | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
victory but the cost has bedn horrific. Another such victory and | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
we truly would be undone. Wd invested the proceeds from our life | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
in Australia, about ?150,000, to come here and fund Catherind's | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
university degree and live here as a single income student Sammy Ameobi | :00:26. | :00:31. | |
now lost over one -- and we have now lost over a year of income. And that | :00:32. | :00:41. | |
is after kindness, financially we are probably never going to recover | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
but we are in the country where we belong. Now as I said, we h`ve a 12 | :00:45. | :00:52. | |
month visa, that means we whll be doing this again this time next | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
year. It will be somewhat more straightforward if that can be | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
applied to any dealings with the Home Office. There will be `bout | :01:01. | :01:07. | |
?6,000 in Home Office fees `nd immigration surcharges which will | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
have to be paid upfront in `ddition to legal costs and that is hn | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
addition to feeding ourselvds and paying off the debts we are. We had | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
no access to public funds so that is no housing assistance, tax credit, | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
no government assistance, wd cannot buy a house, apply for a mortgage, | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
we cannot even get a phone contract. Le Clos once a pet but we c`n't get | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
that because we don't know where we will be next year. -- visa. Now we | :01:33. | :01:40. | |
can plan to next month, which we couldn't do before, but we cannot | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
plan to next year yet. This is our life now. Had the work thesd are | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
being in place that was prolised Ross would not have had the lost | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
income or the debt and we rdad there been able to pay taxes and continue | :01:55. | :02:02. | |
to do the volunteering we wdre scared to do. And we would have have | :02:03. | :02:10. | |
the capacity to earn to earn up for the expense of the jittery | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
transition. I would ask you to ramble we are perfectly ordhnary. | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
This is what living as a falily a student family in the looks like. It | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
is the huge fees, the uncertainty, not knowing whether the perfect Visa | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
application will be accepted, not knowing if the visa will be valid | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
when you get there. This is the reality of a long-term relationship | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
with the Home Office. No ond should have to live like this. Now if you | :02:38. | :02:51. | |
want to attract students and have the best and brightest come to | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
Scotland you have to show them that you are welcome and give thdm some | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
measure of security uncertahnty They have too no Scotland w`nts them | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
to come. Scotland, you have welcomed my family with open arms. Please | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
tell the world you will welcomes future students as well. I would ask | :03:07. | :03:08. | |
you to support the motion. @PPLAUSE I like this. Will you waive it? | :03:09. | :03:20. | |
CHEERING Conference, I'd take it that motion | :03:21. | :04:58. | |
is passed! By a claim. We whll move topical motion 61 Aleppo and ask | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
Brendan O'Hara to move but can I ask Michelle she would formally seconded | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
the motion. Yes, thank you very much for that. Brendan O'Hara. Thank you, | :05:09. | :05:14. | |
conference. I will be very brief. In recent months we have all bden | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
horrified by the television images that have been coming out of Aleppo. | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
Hundreds of thousands of men, women and children being bombed and | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
besieged by the Assad regimd and their Russian allies. As hard as it | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
is to imagine, things in Aldppo are getting worse, much, much worse And | :05:31. | :05:38. | |
indeed just last week the United nation 's envoy to Syria sahd he | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
feared the eastern part of the city could be totally destroyed within | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
two months. According to thd Syrian Observatory for human rights, since | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
the US Russian brokered ceasefire collapsed a month ago, 500 | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
civilians, including 100 chhldren, have been killed, and 1300 hnjured. | :05:55. | :06:00. | |
And on top of that there is overwhelming evidence that the | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
regime and its allies are deliberately targeting civilians, | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
hospitals, the emergency services and first responders. In just one | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
day Aleppo's largest hospit`l was hit seven times by air strikes. And | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
just as repairs started thex were hits again the next day. And right | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
now there are believed to bd just 35 doctors remaining in Aleppo to serve | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
a population of a quarter of a million. That is an appalling | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
situation and right now there is still complete chaos on the ground | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
and in the skies and there seems no prospect of an early end to this | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
war. But as a protagonist wd say the UK is absolutely incumbent tpon them | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
to be part of finding a solttion. As Boris Johnson said, it is only when | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
the fighting and bombing stops that we can hope to deliver a political | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
solution. Let's be absolutely clear about this. That means everxbody's | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
bombs, including the UK. APPLAUSE . | :07:10. | :07:20. | |
Last year we asked time and time again how, when there were `lready a | :07:21. | :07:28. | |
dozen or more protagonists hn this fight, how would the United Kingdom | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
air strikes bring peace and stability closer to the people of | :07:32. | :07:38. | |
Syria? In the headlong rush to join this conflict that question was | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
never answered. The answer hs clear, it has done nothing to bring peace | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
and stability closer and in fact it is further away now than whdn the UK | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
dropped its first bomb in Sxria last December. Today we repeat otr demand | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
that the UK Government immediately ceases its bombing campaign in Syria | :08:01. | :08:03. | |
and explores every possible avenue of delivering a to the bele`guered | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
civilians of Syria. As I sahd back in February in Parliament, hf we | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
have the technology to drop bombs, then we have the technology to drop | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
bread. Conference, support the innocent civilians of Syria and | :08:20. | :08:30. | |
support this resolution. Confluence, there are no cards against so can we | :08:31. | :08:38. | |
passed a resolution by accl`im? Thank you very much. | :08:39. | :08:48. | |
Conference, ten years ago wd embarked on the Scottish Parliament | :08:49. | :08:58. | |
election campaign. We won those elections, and we've held office | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
since. We took over the Scottish executive and created the Scottish | :09:03. | :09:11. | |
Government, the name. -- worthy of the name. And of course we have had | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
two first ministers, Alex H`mmond and Nicola Sturgeon, over those nine | :09:18. | :09:31. | |
years. -- Alex Salmond. And over those nine years I have counted | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
including interim leaders there have been nine leaders of the opposition, | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
almost one every year that we have been in office. While they change | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
their leaders, we changed Scotland for the better. No wonder whether | :09:47. | :09:55. | |
our record of delivery in the Scottish Government, the trtst in | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
the Scottish Government is so high. No wonder we are at record levels in | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
the opinion polls in the Scottish Parliament constituency with the | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
most recent opinion poll at a whopping 52%. But, conference, being | :10:11. | :10:21. | |
appointed as Cabinet Secret`ry for finance is a real honour. The First | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
Minister clearly didn't think I would be busy enough and has doubled | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
my role to include that of the Constitution. No pressure, then | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
after yesterday's announcemdnt. But I'm determined to do all th`t I can | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
in this role to ensure that we deliver on our promises. Buhlding | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
the nation that we aspire to be conference, the happiest cotntries | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
in the world are also the f`irest. Which is why we are determined to | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
create a fairer Scotland, t`ckling inequality in the process. @ | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
progressive taxation system has a key role to play, where taxds are | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
proportionate to the abilitx to pay, provides certainty for taxp`yers, | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
allow for convenient payment and should be efficient. We want to | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
protect our big services and also to transform them. We want to build | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
growth in our economy and the want that growth to be resilient and | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
inclusive. Now the UK Chancdllor of the Exchequer, Philip Hammond, has | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
been sending out mixed mess`ges about what to expect in his Autumn | :11:25. | :11:31. | |
Statement on November 23, hhs mini budget. So let me help him out and | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
tell him. In a simple sentence what Scotland expects. When he rdsets his | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
fiscal policy, as he said hd would do, I call on him to do this: end | :11:42. | :11:56. | |
austerity now. APPLAUSE So, conference, please give a warm | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
welcome to many other Cabindt members who will address yot now one | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
by one. First off, Shona Robson your Health Secretary. | :12:07. | :12:14. | |
Confluence, in the last dec`de we have seen the English NHS fragmented | :12:15. | :12:22. | |
and opened up to privatisathon. We have had a UK Government th`t has | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
gone to war with its own junior doctors. And now talks of doctors | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
from other countries no longer being welcome. Conference, I want to send | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
out loud and clear message to all of those from other countries working | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
here in our NHS. We value you, we want you to stay, thank you for | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
choosing to come here and work for our NHS. APPLAUSE | :12:49. | :12:58. | |
By contrast to the position down south, Scotland's Energis h`s been | :12:59. | :13:07. | |
kept true to 911's founding unspools, free at the point of need | :13:08. | :13:17. | |
and kept in public hands. -, Nye Bevan's founding principles. | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
This investment has seen NHS staffing increase by over 10,00 | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
under the SNP, to historically high levels with over 2,000 more nurses | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
and over 1500 more consultants. It's the hard work of our NHS st`ff | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
that's seen public satisfaction steadily rise. For example, a record | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
high, 90%, of patients rate their inpatient care as good or excellent. | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
To each of our hard-working staff I say a huge thank you. Conference, I | :13:55. | :14:02. | |
am proud of our record in Government, it was this party that | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
scrapped prescription chargds, ending the tax on illness in | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
Scotland and don't forget the Tories still want to bring these charges | :14:11. | :14:17. | |
back, including for cancer patients. We work in partnership with NHS | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
staff to deliver for patients. Let me give you one example. We have | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
worked with the Royal College of Emergency Medicine to develop the | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
six essential actions emergdncy care, the result, Scotland's had the | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
best performing hospital A in the UK for the last 18 months. But | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
conference we want to go further, yes we have challenges but tnlike | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
our opponents we have plans to meet them snoochlt we are going to | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
increase the share of frontline budge going to primary and community | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
care to bring treatment closer to home, having already integr`ted | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
health and care services we are going to increase NHS funding for | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
social care to help our agehng population live at home or hn homely | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
settings for as long as possible. We are going to increase mental health | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
funding and deliver a new tdn-year mental health strategy to ensure | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
whether your need is physic`l or mental that an NHS is there for you. | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
We also want to ensure that by the end of this parliament everxone who | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
needs palliative care can gdt it. I have a short amount of time so I | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
will tell you about one of our plans. We are giving a new focus to | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
specialist children's palli`tive care services. Nothing can be more | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
important than making sure that the most vulnerable children and their | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
families get the care and stpport they need. So I am delighted to | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
announce that as part of our plans we will be providing the fantastic | :15:48. | :15:55. | |
children's hospice charity with approximately ?30 million over the | :15:56. | :15:57. | |
next five years... APPLAUSE | :15:58. | :16:07. | |
?30 million over the next fhve years to help children and familids | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
through the most difficult circumstances, ensuring thex're able | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
to spend quality time together. Every day that the SNP in Government | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
stands up for our NHS and c`re services and conference I al | :16:20. | :16:21. | |
delighted that you stand with us. APPLAUSE | :16:22. | :16:33. | |
Conference, it gives me gre`t pleasure to introduce my colleague, | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
the fantastic Cabinet Secretary for Justice, Michael Mathison. | :16:40. | :16:48. | |
Conference, nearly ten years ago now we set out to turn around otr | :16:49. | :16:56. | |
justice system here in Scotland to create safer communities and to | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
transform the way in which we deliver justice in this country | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
from reforming our police and fire service, to modernising our court | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
system, investing in our prhson service, putting victims at the very | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
heart of our justice system. And tackling the scourge of criles, such | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
as domestic violence that blights the lives of too many women and | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
children in our society tod`y. Over that decade with the support of the | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
police and many others, recorded crime in Scotland is now at a | :17:35. | :17:49. | |
42-year low. Homicides in Scotland are now down by 50% since 2007, the | :17:50. | :18:00. | |
lowest since 1976. Violent crime is down 52%. Crimes of handling | :18:01. | :18:09. | |
offensive weapons are down by 6 % over the last decade. And, `s a | :18:10. | :18:19. | |
result of these achievements we now have fewer Scots who become victims | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
of crime. I want to take thhs opportunity to thank everyone within | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
our justice system who's pl`yed their part in making our colmunities | :18:30. | :18:40. | |
safer here in Scotland. Durhng the last decade we have not just been | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
making our streets safer, wd have also been investing in our | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
communities. Since 2008, we have been taking the money from the | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
criminals and investing it hn our communities. Through our cashback | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
for communities programme wd have now invested ?75 million in sports, | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
cultural, youth and educational activities for our children and our | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
young people, our next generation, taking the money from the criminals | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
and putting it back into thd benefit of our communities. We can be | :19:19. | :19:26. | |
rightly proud of what we have achieved over the last decade, but | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
there's much still to do in the years ahead. Supporting our police | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
and fire service, who do an outstanding job across our | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
communities, day in, day out, transforming the way in which we | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
deliver community justice through the creation of community jtstice | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
Scotland, continuing our reforms of prison policy with the biggdst | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
change in our approach to prison policy in a generation and | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
transforming the way in which our courts deal with vulnerable | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
witnesses and children, in particular. Conference, domdstic | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
abuse continues to blight the lives of too many families in our society. | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
I have already set out our plans to create a new specific offence of | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
domestic abuse and with the support of parliament we will be ond of the | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
few countries in the world that s created such a specific offdnce I | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
want us to do more, to help to support those who are victils of | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
gender-based violence. The Scottish women's rights centre recently | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
celebrated its first anniversary of operation, drawing together many | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
specialist groups to providd those who have suffered from genddr-based | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
violence. All the groups involved play a central role, an inv`luable | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
role in supporting victims to come to terms with the aftermath of the | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
horrendous crimes that they are experiencing. I am very grateful to | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
them for the tremendous work they undertake to strengthen the way in | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
which we deliver services to victims of these crimes, crimes of domestic | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
violence and sexual violencd. Conference, today I can confirm that | :21:14. | :21:21. | |
we will be providing the centre with an extra ?665,000 over the next two | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
years to allow it to expand a range of services that it provides and to | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
allow it to move from its work in the central belt to deliver its | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
services right across every corner of Scotland. Conference, as a | :21:36. | :21:47. | |
Government, on justice we h`ve delivered significant changd over | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
the last decade. You can be assured that over the coming years we will | :21:51. | :21:55. | |
continue to transform our jtstice system for the better here hn | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
Scotland. I would like to t`ke this opportunity now to introducd my | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
colleague who has the responsibility of creating a more fair and just | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
social security system here in Scotland, Angela Constance, Cabinet | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
Secretary for Communities, social community and Equalities. | :22:21. | :22:22. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you very much, Michael. It's | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
great to hear about that fantastic announcement of an addition`l | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
?665,000 being invested in services to tackle violence against women and | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
girls. Conference, since our re-eldction we | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
have taken the challenge of achieving a fairer Scotland to a new | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
level. We are utterly utterly focussed on bringing about lasting | :22:50. | :22:56. | |
change that's required to t`ckle deep-seated deprivation, poverty and | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
inequality. And that's why the fairer Scotland action plan that I | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
recently launched outlines activities that will be takdn right | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
across this Government, with 50 concrete actions for this | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
parliamentary term. It's an ambitious, affordable and achievable | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
plan which sets out our long-term commitment to make Scotland a fairer | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
and more equal place to livd in I have also recently established a ?29 | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
million fund for communities and the third sector to find new waxs to | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
tackle poverty, funding projects that will provide child card, create | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
new jobs and support our local communities. And unlike the UK Tory | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
Government, which scrapped statutory child poverty targets last xear | :23:49. | :23:56. | |
sweeping child poverty under the carpet, this party, however, | :23:57. | :24:03. | |
children will always come fhrst APPLAUSE | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
That's why the child povertx bill that I will take forward will apply | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
long-term income-based targdts to reduce and to ultimately er`dicate | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
child poverty. No mean feat, but we are well and truly up for it. | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
Housing, of course, is key to achieving a fairer Scotland and we | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
are stepping up the pace on this with Kevin Stewart, the Housing | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
Minister working hard to ensure the delivery of at least 50,000 | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
affordable homes over the lhfetime of this parliament. Homes that can | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
create jobs, support communhties and households the length and breadth of | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
Scotland. Of course, we also ?5 ,000 affordable homes over the lhfetime | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
of this parliament. Homes that can create jobs, support communhties and | :24:48. | :24:49. | |
households the length and breadth of Scotland. Of course, we also | :24:50. | :24:51. | |
continue to spend over one lillion a year protecting people from some of | :24:52. | :24:53. | |
the worst aspects of so-called welfare reform. Money that could | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
lift people out of poverty hs being used to mitigate callous Tory | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
Government decisions. We might only be getting 15% of the benefhts | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
budget transferred from Westminster, but that covers 11 benefits which | :25:11. | :25:16. | |
one in four people rely on. So we are firmly focussed on transferring | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
those benefits and services safely and securely and the Ministdr for | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
Social Security is working hard to ensure that our new social security | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
system will work with peopld and not work against them. | :25:31. | :25:42. | |
Conference, I am therefore very pleased to announce today that we | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
will involve at least 2,000 people from across Scotland who have gone | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
through all aspects of the benefits system and experienced groups to | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
help us to test our plans, to test our policies and to test our | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
processes. Conference, the new social security powers will be the | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
biggest programme of change in the history of devolution and wd will | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
therefore listen first and foremost to those who have that lived | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
experience to ensure that wd get it right and that we get it absolutely | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
right and ensure that we crdate a new social security system for | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
Scotland with dignity and f`irness at its very heart and absolttely | :26:26. | :26:34. | |
everything that we do. APPLAUSE | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
So, thank you very much. It's a great pleasure for me to now | :26:38. | :26:51. | |
introduce the very passionate and feisty Rosanna Cunningham, LSP. | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
Thank you. Thank you very much, Angela. I don't | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
know whether I will be living up to that title in the next couple of | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
minutes, but I do want to tdll you that I am incredibly proud to stand | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
before you today as Scotland's very first Cabinet Secretary for the | :27:08. | :27:14. | |
Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform. Despite the order of the | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
title I am going to start whth the land first, because it defines us | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
and it's given us our very sense of national identity. We have shaped | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
the landscape, but it in turn has shaped us. As a party we have long | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
been committed to radical l`nd reform, a bold ambition, a lassive | :27:34. | :27:36. | |
task. We shouldn't forget the injustices of the past but H think | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
it's now time to look to thd future. A future where our land, both rural | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
and urban, is used to benefht the many, not the few. | :27:46. | :27:54. | |
APPLAUSE Our new land reform act set out what | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
we want to achieve and how we plan to achieve it and that incltdes the | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
creation of a powerful new body the Scottish Land Commission to drive | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
forward the land reform agenda. It will deliver for all of Scotland. | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
And it's fantastic to reveal today that the headquarters will be in | :28:15. | :28:16. | |
Inverness. The Highland caphtal I do wish, I wish the commission | :28:17. | :28:28. | |
well, the commissioners will be appointed in the coming months and | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
they will begin work next ydar and I pledge them my full support. I have | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
another promise to make. Scotland is going to continue to lead the rest | :28:38. | :28:40. | |
of the UK in the fight against climate change. We've already blown | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
through our 2020 target six years early. Naysayers said it cotldn t be | :28:46. | :28:57. | |
done. We did it. And we are about to raise the bar by setting totgh new | :28:58. | :29:04. | |
targets. I make no apology for using Scotland as an exemplar. Those are | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
not my words, they are the words of the chairman of the UK commhttee on | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
climate change. And you may remember him as John Selwyn Gummer, that s | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
right, a Tory. Publicly declaring the SNP are getting something right. | :29:20. | :29:27. | |
That makes a change. Conferdnce climate change is one of thd | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
defining issues of our age `nd make no mistake it is a threat to our | :29:31. | :29:39. | |
whole environment. I want to ensure future generations can agred | :29:40. | :29:41. | |
Scotland was bold, Scotland delivered and Scotland got ht right. | :29:42. | :29:46. | |
The transition to a low carbon economy means difficult chohces but | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
there are opportunities, too. The remarkable success of our rdnewable | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
energy sector is testament to that. So we will go further, the bolder, | :29:55. | :29:58. | |
if only we could say the sale thing of the UK Government, which is yet | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
to ratify the Paris climate accord. Friends, there are powerful | :30:05. | :30:09. | |
organisations who seek to thwart our work to protect the environlent | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
fight climate change and achieve radical land reform Parliamdnt has | :30:15. | :30:16. | |
spoken and I promise you thd will of the people of Scotland will prevail. | :30:17. | :30:29. | |
And taking up some of the challenges of the new economic opportunity of | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
our work on climate change hn the circular economy, here's Kehth | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
Brown, Cabinet Secretary for the economy, jobs and fair work. | :30:38. | :30:49. | |
Conference, I think it's very important we look back over the | :30:50. | :30:51. | |
previous time we have had in government and actually celdbrate | :30:52. | :30:55. | |
and acknowledge some of the successes we have had. We'rd the | :30:56. | :31:00. | |
party of have always been interested in Schumacher things, achieving | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
national sovereignty of course but also looking after the interests of | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
the people of Scotland and H think that means building up Scotland It | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
is worth looking at some highlights. First of all, the substanti`l | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
motorway with Project M80 completed on time and under budget. M`ny of | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
you coming today to this confidence will have used the M74, talked about | :31:23. | :31:30. | |
for decades but completed on-time and on budget by an governmdnt. Many | :31:31. | :31:37. | |
other projects, the Bathgatd railway project, I should not pretend they | :31:38. | :31:39. | |
were done under my directorship many other listeners have bden | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
involved but that was compldted on time and on budget. A very trusting | :31:46. | :31:47. | |
small project, the style bypass in Moray, they have been | :31:48. | :31:56. | |
trying to build that for ne`rly 60 years. And SNP government completed | :31:57. | :32:06. | |
that project. Much of these projects have been about improving the | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
infrastructure and the prodtctive potential in Scotland but they are | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
also about providing work and jobs and they are by their naturd Labour | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
intensive. We have also been very busy over the previous nine years in | :32:18. | :32:24. | |
saving jobs. The last commercial shipbuilders in Scotland was saved | :32:25. | :32:31. | |
by an SNP government. Also Prestwick airport, and the saviour of the last | :32:32. | :32:45. | |
steel-making plant in government. And if you look at the latest | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
figures for unemployment, there is a position just now of around 4.7 | :32:50. | :32:56. | |
unemployment in Scotland, that is lower than the UK, one of the lowest | :32:57. | :32:59. | |
there has been in nearly 25 years and that is no coincidence. It has a | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
great deal to do with the work we have done. At the same time a train | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
to build jobs we have also been breaking to ensure we have ` fairer | :33:07. | :33:09. | |
distribution of the jobs and fairer working practices for peopld. We | :33:10. | :33:15. | |
have seen the establishment of the fair work convention. We have seen | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
the largest contract issued by any government in Scotland, a contract | :33:21. | :33:23. | |
for railway services guaranteed for everybody involved in that company | :33:24. | :33:27. | |
to get a living wage but also guaranteeing that every | :33:28. | :33:30. | |
subcontractor used by that company will have a living wage. Thhs is | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
making Scotland a fairer pl`ce and using the power of government to do | :33:36. | :33:42. | |
that. Obviously that's not the job finished, there is a great deal more | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
to do so what you have seen in the last two weeks as the First Minister | :33:47. | :33:49. | |
announced the Scottish growth skin, this is the means by which lany | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
companies to find it hard to access finance are able to tap into up to | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
?500,000 of new money made `vailable to companies so they can sc`le up or | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
get off the ground projects that would find it hard to get fhnance. | :34:02. | :34:10. | |
Available to countries is gone. And in addition to that the response to | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
Brexit, we have not seen th`t yet from the UK Government, we have seen | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
from the Scottish Government affairs Minister announcing capital | :34:19. | :34:24. | |
stimulus, for environmental projects, for example energx | :34:25. | :34:31. | |
efficiency. Even people likd the AGI will tell you that the most | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
effective way to sustain economy twinjet vest in capital projects. We | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
will continue to work for Scotland, some mothers of the projects | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
underway, but the biggest roads project in the UK and, the loment, | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
the peripheral Route, mandated for 50 years, we have seen the crossing | :34:50. | :34:58. | |
across the River Forth, the biggest project we have underway just now, | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
which will be completed by the contracting completion date and will | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
be completed around a quartdr of ?1 billion cheaper than the tender | :35:09. | :35:17. | |
price. I mention these things, conference, because it has `lways | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
been our party's philosophy to build Scotland. It is our job to build up | :35:24. | :35:31. | |
Scotland. And on that issue of building up Scotland we owe a great | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
feel for all the projects I have mentioned to somebody who h`s | :35:35. | :35:37. | |
managed to find the finances to do that and I'm sure the new Fhnance | :35:38. | :35:42. | |
secretary will do that. But our Finance secretary over thesd years | :35:43. | :35:45. | |
has had to find the money to make these projects a reality. It is my | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
pleasure there for two judgds a former finance secretary, otr | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
Education Secretary, our Deputy First Minister, John Swinnex. | :35:54. | :36:01. | |
CHEERING Conference, in May of this xear a | :36:02. | :36:32. | |
remarkable thing happened. Nine years after we were first elected to | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
government, we went to the polls, we went to the country to seek historic | :36:37. | :36:43. | |
third consecutive term in office. Led by Nicola Sturgeon, the leader | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
with a close and direct rel`tionship with our people. We asked the | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
electorate for a new mandatd. We promoted team, we explained our | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
vision of a fair and prosperous nation. And the voters delivered a | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
thumping great victory for the SNP and for Scotland. Friends, the doors | :37:03. | :37:14. | |
that you knock on the leafldts she delivered on the voters you | :37:15. | :37:17. | |
canvassed and the neighbours you convinced, that's what made our | :37:18. | :37:23. | |
victory possible. It was a victory founded on hard work, it is the | :37:24. | :37:30. | |
British strength of this party. Don't get me wrong, some wotld say | :37:31. | :37:33. | |
that our First Minister is our greatest strength and far bd it from | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
me to disagree with that... I wouldn't dream of it. Others will | :37:39. | :37:41. | |
tell you our greatest strength is our vision for the nation. @nd | :37:42. | :37:46. | |
they're not wrong, either. But for me are greater strength is that we | :37:47. | :37:54. | |
are not a branch office of the UK party. CHEERING | :37:55. | :38:06. | |
We are neither apologists for the UK Government, we draw our strdngth | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
from every community, every town, every village, every creed `nd | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
colour in this great nation. Friends, our greatest strength is | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
that we are rooted in all of the communities of Scotland. And last | :38:23. | :38:33. | |
weekend we saw the stark contrast between this country, this party, | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
and those who have a differdnt vision for this nation. Last weekend | :38:38. | :38:42. | |
while the tourist of their conference platform to spout forth | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
xenophobic bile, here in Scotland an amazing thing happened. As the week | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
went on and as the bile poured forth, hear people started to write | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
on Twitter about what they love They tweeted about their orhgins, | :38:56. | :39:00. | |
their families, their friends, here and in other countries. Thex stood | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
up to the xenophobes in the best way possible, by celebrating thd | :39:06. | :39:14. | |
diversity that makes Scotland. They met eight with love and thex made | :39:15. | :39:17. | |
everyone of us are a proud that we all live here in Scotland. The late | :39:18. | :39:33. | |
dearly missed Bashir Ahmed said it best summed up what you thotght with | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
a simple statement: it does not matter where you come from, what's | :39:37. | :39:38. | |
important is where we're gohng together as a nation. In thd face of | :39:39. | :39:43. | |
the right-wing demagoguery of the Tory Brexit government, it has never | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
been more important that we celebrate that spirit and hold fast | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
to that truth. It's who we `re, whether born here or abroad, what | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
ever your creed, what ever xour colour. The Scot by birth or by | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
choice, all of us, every single one of us, are part of our nation. All | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
of us who choose to live thdre, we are Scotland. | :40:09. | :41:15. | |
For our country as a whole ht means using new powers over tax and social | :41:16. | :41:22. | |
security to expand our economy and to lift more people out of poverty. | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
But above all else this means trusting the people of Scotland to | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
make the big decisions about the future of our country. That was our | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
perspectives. Now it is our programme for government. This is | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
the route to creating a fair and prosperous Scotland for all in our | :41:42. | :41:52. | |
country. Since 2007 we have transformed education, boosted our | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
health service, reformed policing, taking employment team record levels | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
and built thousands of affordable homes. Our investment has ddlivered | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
more than schools, colleges and universities, as well as sole of the | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
biggest transport improvements the country has ever seen. Our `im has | :42:10. | :42:15. | |
always been to build a country where strong public services are | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
underpinned by a successful economy. Yes, we are proud of our record but | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
we know there is still much more to do. That is our task now, to build a | :42:23. | :42:30. | |
better future for Scotland `nd for everybody who chooses to live and to | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
work here with us in Scotland. Friends, you just heard frol our | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
cabinet team, the Cabinet Sdcretary leading change in all of thdir | :42:40. | :42:43. | |
portfolios. Angela Constancd creating a Social Security system | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
based on dignity and respect. Shona Robinson delivering record levels of | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
get more patience here in Scotland. Michael Matheson delivering a 4 | :42:54. | :42:55. | |
year low in crime. Roseanna Cunningham delivering on her world | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
leading climate change targdts six years ahead of schedule. Kehth Brown | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
growing the economy despite headwinds of the Tory Brexit. Fiona | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
Hislop has just arrived frol Brussels where she has been fighting | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
for Scotland's place in Europe and Fiona will address the confdrence | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
later this afternoon. And Fdrgus Ewing is away from conference | :43:19. | :43:20. | |
fighting for Scotland's rur`l economy, promoting our fant`stic | :43:21. | :43:25. | |
produce to the resellers th`t can make Scottish food and drink a | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
success. Not for them party before country, they are SNP ministers and | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
for us country comes first, always, country comes first. | :43:36. | :43:46. | |
Friends, before you think I have forgotten someone, I want to say a | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
word about Derrick MacKay, our new Finance Secretary. I have, of | :43:53. | :43:56. | |
course, done that job, it's not easy, it gets tougher as thd times | :43:57. | :44:01. | |
get tougher. But I know Derdk will do a fantastic job as the Fhnance | :44:02. | :44:04. | |
Secretary in the Scottish Government. But I do have a word of | :44:05. | :44:13. | |
warning for him. I too was once a young looking Finance Minister. | :44:14. | :44:19. | |
LAUGHTER With a full head of hair. So be | :44:20. | :44:32. | |
warned, this is your future. APPLAUSE | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
On stage and off stage this is the team that leads our nation. At the | :44:37. | :44:40. | |
head of that team is our First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon. | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
Acknowledged by friend and foe alike, she's given this party and | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
the country the leadership ht needs in uncertain times. No one could | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
have been more struck by thhs than on the morning of 24th June, in the | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
wake of the E. Referendum rdsult, it was Nicola Sturgeon who stepped up. | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
It was Nicola Sturgeon who laid out a path for Scotland to follow. While | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
Boris and Gove panicked, Caleron resigned and Corbyn went missing. It | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
was Nicola Sturgeon who rejdcted the zenophobia of Farage, reasstred our | :45:17. | :45:19. | |
EU friends here in Scotland and defended our relationship whth | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
Europe, in that moment therd was a crisis of leadership in London. Here | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
in Scotland, leadership had its finest hour. | :45:28. | :45:29. | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | :45:30. | :45:46. | |
And that crisis rolls on in Westminster. Barely a day goes by | :45:47. | :45:53. | |
that the three Brexiteers of Boris, Davis and Fox do not embarr`ss the | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
whole of the United Kingdom. Theresa May is in office, but it is already | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
obvious that she's not in power A Remain voter apparently, shd's been | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
driven by the Tory hard-right to a hard Brexit just as David C`meron | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
was drifen to a referendum by the self same hard-right Brexitders in | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
the first place. The conseqtences can barely be contemplated. One | :46:19. | :46:21. | |
consequence I will deal with directly today. We as a Govdrnment | :46:22. | :46:26. | |
have already confirmed tuithon fees funding to support EU students | :46:27. | :46:31. | |
studying here or preparing to start here in this year. Now we whll | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
extend that guarantee to those EU students wishing to come to start in | :46:36. | :46:42. | |
Scotland in the next year in 2017-18. | :46:43. | :46:54. | |
APPLAUSE And unlike Labour and the Tories | :46:55. | :47:05. | |
that is tuition fees-free education. Education that we are garning, not | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
the massive fees they imposd on students wherever they come from. | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
But let me go further. We whll guarantee their funding. Wh`t I | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
demand is that the Tory Brexit Government guarantees their right to | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
stay here during their studhes and to work here after their sttdies. | :47:22. | :47:34. | |
APPLAUSE These people are not cards to be played, they are fellow human | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
beings. To use them as negotiating chips is obscene and this p`rty and | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
this SNP Government will have none of it. Conference, the Tory Brexit | :47:46. | :47:55. | |
Government's threat to people's right to stay here is just `nother | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
part of the hard-right agenda now running rampant at Westminster. In | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
the face of this ugly Tory Brexit agenda, where stands Labour? Nowhere | :48:07. | :48:12. | |
is the answer. When Jeremy Hunt put foreign born doctors on nothce of | :48:13. | :48:18. | |
deportation, when Amber Rudd announced a sinister list of foreign | :48:19. | :48:21. | |
workers, Labour didn't stand up in defiance. Instead their press office | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
said the Tories had not gond far enough. Shame. Shame. Shame on the | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
pathetic Labour Party. APPLAUSE | :48:29. | :48:45. | |
Now there will be some in L`bour as horrified as we are at their | :48:46. | :48:54. | |
collective moral failure. Kdzia Dugdale tweeted not in my n`me but | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
let be clear for as long as she insists on powers remaining in | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
London she shares the blame. I sat on the Smith Commission. I watched | :49:04. | :49:10. | |
as Labour vet I doed propos`l after proposal, to devolve power `fter | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
power to Scotland. So Kezia, you may say it's not in your name, but I say | :49:16. | :49:19. | |
it is at your hand and the people of Scotland will never forget that | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
Labour Party were prepared to allow the Tories to rule Scotland, to stop | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
our country deciding on our own future. | :49:28. | :49:37. | |
APPLAUSE Friends, make no mistake, wd are the | :49:38. | :49:45. | |
National Party and we will `lways put the national interests first. We | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
believe in our nation's ability to govern herself and we believe in our | :49:51. | :49:53. | |
communities' ability to takd power in their own hands. We want to | :49:54. | :49:58. | |
reinvigorate local government by reconnecting it with communhties, | :49:59. | :50:01. | |
the principle of local control, not on behalf of a community but by a | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
community is key. This is at the heart of our programme. We have | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
already launched the review of how school education is governed. | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
Setting ourselves the task of making parents and teachers the kex | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
decision-makers in the life of our schools. Over the coming parliament | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
we will go further. We will review the roles and responsibilithes of | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
local authorities and we will look again at the relationships between | :50:25. | :50:27. | |
local authorities and health boards. We aim to achieve nothing ldss than | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
to transform our democratic landscape, protect and renew public | :50:33. | :50:37. | |
services, and refresh the relationship between citizens, | :50:38. | :50:39. | |
communities and councils. Wd do this, not because it is radhcal and | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
it is, but because we believe it is right. We don't do it because it's | :50:44. | :50:49. | |
easy, it's not, but because it is in the national interests. We believe | :50:50. | :50:52. | |
that national interest lies in placing power in the hands of the | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
people of this country. It hs why I believe in independence. Just as we | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
believe the best people to decide the future of our country are those | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
who live here, so we believd the best people to decide the ftture of | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
our communities are the people who live in those communities. We will | :51:11. | :51:14. | |
trust the people to make thd decisions about their futurd, that | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
is our Creed and that is thd truly radical path of this Scottish | :51:20. | :51:29. | |
National Party Government. APPLAUSE | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
After the election, I was ghven the enormous privilege of becomhng the | :51:33. | :51:36. | |
Education Secretary at the request of the First Minister. The task the | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
First Minister has given to me is simple, to raise the bar for all and | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
to close the attainment gap for our poorest pupils. And our ambhtion is | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
equally straightforward. We will make significant progress in closing | :51:50. | :51:53. | |
the gap within the next parliament and substantially eliminate it | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
within a decade. It may be ` simple objective, it may be a | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
straightforward aim, but it will not be easy. Bedo not underestilate the | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
scale of our ambition. We do not underestimate the destructive force | :52:07. | :52:09. | |
of poverty. We know the dam`ge it does to the life chances of our | :52:10. | :52:14. | |
youngest, poorest children. I believe the single best route out of | :52:15. | :52:20. | |
poverty is education. I belheve the single most powerful weapon we have | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
to fight poverty is education. We will bring the whole educathon | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
system together behind our purpose. The expansion of child care to 0 | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
hours per week, the focus on school education unreserved rip on learning | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
and teaching. The widening of access to university, the strengthdning of | :52:40. | :52:43. | |
apprenticeships, the linking of college to the world of work. All | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
will come together in the s`me national mission, to free every | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
single child from the burden of poverty. I will give it, I promise | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
you, my relentless focus, I will not rest until we have delivered the | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
best possible future for evdry single young person in our country. | :53:05. | :53:17. | |
APPLAUSE Friends, nine years ago, we set out on a journey in Govdrnment. | :53:18. | :53:22. | |
We have come a long way. Thd people of our country have asked us to go | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
further, to make Scotland stronger. That is our task. That is otr | :53:28. | :53:33. | |
pledge. Our promise to Scotland is this, this SNP Government whll build | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
a fair, equal and a prosperous Scotland. Thank you very much. | :53:38. | :53:45. | |
APPLAUSE OK conference, we are going to get | :53:46. | :56:15. | |
on with the rest of our agenda for today. We are moving on to | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
resolution 16. Scotland's place in Europe. To be moved by Tony Jewel | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
lano and seconded by Joanna Cherry MP. | :56:27. | :56:37. | |
Conference, I move to this country, to the city, when I was sevdn years | :56:38. | :56:44. | |
old. I spoke no English. On my first day at school my classmates had each | :56:45. | :56:48. | |
learned something in Italian to make me feel welcome. I will nevdr forget | :56:49. | :56:55. | |
one of them wrote, welcome to Glasgow, PS, if you are a rdal | :56:56. | :57:04. | |
Italian, whereabouts is your chippy. My family, like thousands of other | :57:05. | :57:08. | |
migrants, came here to work. They ran businesses, they teach our | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
children. They are the lifeblood of our NHS. They make an incredible | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
contribution to our society, just look the millions of Scots who | :57:18. | :57:22. | |
emigrated enriching nations across the globe and yet they have been | :57:23. | :57:27. | |
demonised as benefit cheats, denied a vote in the referendum and now | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
used as bargaining chips. Conference, these are peopld's | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
lives. It's time for the Tories is to stop messing with them and | :57:35. | :57:39. | |
guarantee their right to live here now. As John Swinney said e`rlier on | :57:40. | :57:49. | |
the morning of the 24th Jund, for millions of people across the UK the | :57:50. | :57:56. | |
future was suddenly thrown hn doubt. In times of profound unsnet it's the | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
job of politicians to steadx the ship and chart a new course. The | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
Prime Minister, he abdicated responsibility. The Chancellor, Mo | :58:08. | :58:13. | |
where. The Home Secretary, silent. Only one leader gave that dhrection | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
and reassurance, the First Linister of our country, Nicola Sturgeon | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
APPLAUSE Delegates, Tory party conference was | :58:22. | :58:29. | |
an eye-opener, it told us everything we need to know about the khnd of | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
country they want. They want employers to list foreign workers, | :58:33. | :58:36. | |
universities to crackdown on foreign students. The NHS to replacd foreign | :58:37. | :58:42. | |
doctors. Walls built across the Channel. Conference, what a reckless | :58:43. | :58:50. | |
display of divisive nationalism it has no place in Scotland, wd will | :58:51. | :58:59. | |
never subscribe to it. APPL@USE Friends, the Leave campaign was a | :59:00. | :59:04. | |
con led by politicians responsible for the deep inequalities that scar | :59:05. | :59:11. | |
our society. Politicians who impose austerity on the most vulnerable and | :59:12. | :59:14. | |
then shifted the blame onto the shoulders of migrants. Unless | :59:15. | :59:20. | |
Scotland takes its destiny hn its own hands, these are the people who | :59:21. | :59:23. | |
will continue to decide our future. Make no mistake, the United Kingdom | :59:24. | :59:32. | |
Scotland voted for in 2014 no longer exists. Two years ago Labour and the | :59:33. | :59:36. | |
Tories said vote no to protdct your place in Europe. Today we stand on | :59:37. | :59:42. | |
the brink of the EU exit door. Delegates, those parties can never | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
be trusted with Scotland's future again. APPLAUSE | :59:47. | :59:55. | |
I am proud that Scotland voted emphatically to remain in the EU, | :59:56. | :59:58. | |
Brexit never was and never will be in our national interests. | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
Strathclyde University say ` hard Brexit will lead to 80,000 fewer | :00:04. | :00:09. | |
Scottish jobs by 2026. If the UK does stay in the single market, the | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
price tag will be 5 billion a year just to access it. Friends, that is | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
the absurdity of Brexit. Paxing more for what we already had. | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
Whether you count yourself `s a euro enthusiast or Eurosceptic, this is | :00:27. | :00:34. | |
now much bigger than that. This is about Scotland's right to bd heard. | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
Theresa May came to Scotland pledging to listen. But she's since | :00:40. | :00:42. | |
made clear the only voice that matters is her own. So we f`ce a | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
choice. Do we continue to bd dismissed and ignored as a nation or | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
do we take our place in the world as a constructive member of thd | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
international community as `n independent country? Conferdnce I | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
will conclude because my lights are flashing in front of me. We voted to | :01:02. | :01:10. | |
stay in the world's largest market. We voted to protect our workplace | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
rights. We voted to safeguard our right to live and work across the | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
continent. The message to the Prime Minister is this, the days of | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
Scotland being sidelined ard over. Remain means Remain. Our vohce will | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
be heard. APPLAUSE CHEERING | :01:29. | :01:36. | |
Joanna Cherry, MP, second, to be followed by Alec or to move the | :01:37. | :01:47. | |
remit back. Good afternoon, fellow delegates. Like Tony, I'm the | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
daughter of an immigrant, mx mum came over from Ireland more than 50 | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
years ago to do her midwifery training and stayed in Scotland She | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
always says she brought her daughters up not to be Irish | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
nationalists and cheese enddd up with two Rambert Scottish | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
Nationalists instead. -- two rampant Scottish Nationalists. APPL@USE | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
Of course Scottish nationalhsm like modern Irish nationalism is very | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
internationalist and outward looking in X expression. -- in its | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
expression. This motion this afternoon isn't about whethdr or not | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
we stay in the European Union, it's already been decided, overwhelmingly | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
62% of Scots voted to Remain. This motion is about ensuring thd | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
democratic will of that votd is respected. As the First Minhster | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
said yesterday, it doesn't lean to say we don't listen to thosd who | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
voted to leave the European Union, but primarily we have to respect the | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
democratic mandate of those who voted to stay. During the | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
referendum, the independencd referendum, as you'll remember, Ruth | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
Davidson and others repeatedly told us the only way to guaranted | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
Scotland's continued membership of the European Union was to vote to | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
stay in the UK. That promisd, like so many they made, has now been | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
broken and revealed for the lie it always was. When that promise was | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
made with Davidson knew verx well it was going to be in her partx | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
manifesto to have a referendum on Europe and there was a real risk | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
we'd be taken out. The only party that can protect Scotland's position | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
in Europe is the SNP. We have to do that by being strong and st`nding up | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
against the xenophobia and `rrogance of this horribly right-wing | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
government. We need to make it very clear to Ruth Davidson and her nasty | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
right-wing colleagues down south that no amount of hectoring and | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
bullying will prevent us from holding a second independence | :03:40. | :03:49. | |
referendum if necessary. CHDERING The Tory party in Scotland fought | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
the last Hollywood campaign on a single issue, that they shotld never | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
again be an independence referendum. They lost dismally, and camd distant | :03:58. | :04:06. | |
second. By contrast, the SNP Scottish Government won an historic | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
third term with the highest mandate of any government in Western Europe. | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
And on a manifesto which cldarly said that if there was a material | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
change of circumstances such as Scotland being forced to le`ve the | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
European Union against her will we would hold a second independence | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
referendum. Conference, let's be very clear, we have a democratic | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
mandate to do that. If necessary. And it is our duty to do it if | :04:33. | :04:41. | |
necessary. Let me say very clearly to Ruth Davidson, you don't get to | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
dictate what happens in Scotland. That is up to the Scottish people. | :04:48. | :04:49. | |
CHEERING OK, you can come to the stage to | :04:50. | :05:05. | |
make your point of order. Thank you. I put a card in to speak | :05:06. | :05:22. | |
for the remit back at ten mhnutes to two today, if Mr or's card was put | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
in before that I will withdraw it. It was put in after... -- Mr Orr. | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
There's nothing clever about getting a card in early? Not partictlarly, | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
no. Can I have my card to speak against? That your point of order, | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
we need to move on with the next debate. We've got a lot of cards in | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
for this debate conference, we're not going to be able to get everyone | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
but we'll try to get through as many cards as possible and we'll strive | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
to have a balanced debate and take as many speakers from different | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
sides of the debate as we c`n. I would ask all speakers to kdep to | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
time as much as possible and I will cut off your microphone if H have | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
too. I'd rather not do that. Could I have Alec Orr to move the rdbate | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
back, to be followed by Gradme McCormack to second. Good afternoon | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
conference in 1992, William McIlvanney told $20,000 gathered at | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
the European summit in Edinburgh marching for the establishmdnt of a | :06:33. | :06:34. | |
Scottish parliament we gathdr here like refugees in the capital of our | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
own country. These words cotld not be more apt following the | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
Conservative Party conference, from the nasty party, just considerably | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
last year. The toxic right tnder the guise of Brexit. Brexit is the | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
greatest political upheaval in British politics in half a century. | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
It is indeed deepening the divide in the union. The political we`ther has | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
changed but I urge caution. I urge caution when we look at how we | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
achieve the goal of independence for our nation. As a Europhile no one | :07:05. | :07:12. | |
more than me would delight `nd relish an independent Scotl`nd. What | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
I have to say my not be poptlar but I've never been one to hold back | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
from what I believe. The next independence referendum we go for | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
must be one we can be confident we can win. When the time is rhght or | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
the issue is off the agenda for decades. I urge caution and while I | :07:28. | :07:36. | |
applaud the sentiment of thd resolution,... Lets remember a few | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
things. A third of SNP voters voted for Brexit, we need to be mhndful of | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
how we link these issues together and avoid a headlong enthushastic | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
rushing to holding such a vote at a time which may not be of our own | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
choosing. We have to be warx of what this resolution states. It says | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
conference believes every avenue must be explored to keep Scotland in | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
the EU. The Scottish Governlent position has subtly changed. Top | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
it's been reinforced by the First Minister yesterday. Not that we | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
remain part of the European Union, but that we retain membershhp of the | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
single market. These are two very, very different objectives. Hf you | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
vote for this resolution, wd're tying our First Minister and | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
government's hands. If we do retain our goal of staying within the | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
single market and not the Etropean Union, we would still be botnd to | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
head down the road of an independence referendum. In our | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
manifesto we pledge the right to hold a manifesto if there is a | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
significant and material ch`nge in circumstances since the refdrendum | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
in 2014. We have a mixture of triggers, not solely Brexit, we have | :08:41. | :08:45. | |
policies conceived by the most right-wing Conservative govdrnment | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
in history. A suitable trigger for an independence broke. I wotld urge | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
caution, therefore, an tying the calling of an independence | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
referendum on EU membership. The eventual deal might be supported by | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
the Scottish people. We shotld have a referendum on conference `t a time | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
we can win it. There is much good in the referendum but let's not buying | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
the hands of the First Minister and government, bring it back at a | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
future date when we're clear on the nature of any Brexit deal ndgotiated | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
for Scotland. And implications of this on the holding of another | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
referendum. Thank you. APPL@USE Graeme McCormack to second the remit | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
back to be held by Fiona Hyslop MSP. Conference, the last time I was in | :09:25. | :09:41. | |
this auditorium it was a pantomime. John Barrowman fell off a horse The | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
horse was a supporter of independence. I'm an enthushast it | :09:46. | :09:53. | |
supporter of the EU however this resolution is fundamentally flawed. | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
It confuses the European Unhon and Europe. More fundamentally, this | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
resolution is a gift of Unionists as it gives the perception that our | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
independence is conditional on membership of the EU. My concern was | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
fortified when I heard a le`ding parliamentarian suggest if we didn't | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
stay in the EU is our right to call another independence referendum | :10:15. | :10:16. | |
would be undermined and unjustifiable. I do not belheve this | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
is the view of the party. In out of the EU, Scotland must be | :10:23. | :10:30. | |
independent. APPLAUSE One of the lessons we should have | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
learned from the independence referendum was to keep control of | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
our options. When the two crucial issues of currency and conthnued EU | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
membership, we lost control, or evidence of the perceived | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
corporation of EU government and EU member states. The UK establishment | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
was dismissive, the EU membdrs were at best noncommittal and despite | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
warm words will continue to be until we are independent. While Brexit is | :10:55. | :11:02. | |
an opportunity, surely we h`ve two prepare for plan B. Sexit. This is | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
nothing to do with Donald Trump or Bill Clinton, but it is the economy, | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
stupid. I find it incredibld there is not one resolution or debate to | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
debate our approach to taxation and the nation's economy on this | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
conference agenda. APPLAUSE Thousands of us ordinary melbers of | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
the SNP are doing our best to discuss, argue, influence and | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
contribute to what we want our Scotland to be. So why do wd | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
marginalise the most import`nt thing that matters to everyone, the | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
economy, to official and unofficial fringe meetings. Cutting through the | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
diverse ideas from across the independence family, there hs a way | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
forward that appeals to the role and the open, the haves and havd-notss, | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
the Europhile, nationalist `nd entrepreneur, and those who have | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
hope as their only comfort. It beholds our party and government to | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
embrace this and do two things. Live as if we are already independent by | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
acting and taking decisions to emphasise our nation in a positive | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
way and define our currency, banking, industrial and public | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
revenue systems without depdnding on the shifting sands of cooperation | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
from any third party states. Much of this can be incremented now under | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
devolution. Foreign affairs, employment rights, living w`ge, | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
defence, Social Security, industrial the Berkman... They're what | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
legislative and very powerftl measures are we in Scotland can | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
take. The fundamental truth is this, it's not EU membership that will | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
deliver independence, we already have the legislative power hn our | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
hands. It land reform and the taxation of that land can r`ise much | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
more public revenue to accelerate our infrastructure and economic | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
development and attack the obscenity of poverty through an annual ground | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
rent on every square metre of land, and territorial waters. You can | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
raise so much through this lethod you can replace all existing UK | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
Scottish taxes and slash thd tax burden of virtually everyond else. | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
The last second, please. We must never again offer an independent | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
vision which depends on the goodwill of other countries to delivdr. Remit | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
the resolution back. Thank xou. Fiona Hislop to speak in favour of | :13:16. | :13:29. | |
the resolution, followed by Barry Hanaford to speak against. Cabinet | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
Secretary for External Affahrs in the Scottish Government. Conference, | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
in supporting this motion I want to make it quite clear that thhs motion | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
is entirely consistent with the position set out by the First | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
Minister yesterday. SNP MPs would be voting against the Brexit bhll and | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
Alex and Graeme, I have sympathies with some of the arguments that you | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
are making and taking, but our options will be still left open in | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
supporting this motion. Conference, I want to share you with my | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
activities as the Scottish Government Cabinet Secretarx leading | :14:08. | :14:09. | |
on international relations hn Europe. First of all, I want to put | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
on record my thanks to the team that we have in working with me on | :14:14. | :14:21. | |
Scotland's place in Europe. We have our deputy Minister, Ministdr for | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
Europe, the Minister for UK Negotiations, we have our twomens | :14:28. | :14:38. | |
and our Westminster team. -, two MPs. And it's a formidable team | :14:39. | :14:48. | |
working on our behalf on Europe My role has been to make sure we had | :14:49. | :14:55. | |
a plan ready in the first place to provide leadership and reassurance | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
if the UK voted to leave. Ddlegates, we were the only one with a plan. | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
The leadership shown by Nicola Sturgeon from day one has bden | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
outstanding. I can tell you it's made a big impact across Europe Do | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
not underestimate the solid`rity given to EU nationals and what that | :15:17. | :15:27. | |
means across Europe. I am also responsible for taking the position | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
of Scotland to the heart of Europe and to make sure it's understood by | :15:32. | :15:37. | |
the EU 27 governments. So ydsterday as the First Minister was sdtting | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
out our position in opposing the Brexit bill, for more powers to | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
Scotland and also for the publication of the independdnce | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
referendum bill, I was on a stage in Brussels yesterday announcing the | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
very same thing simultaneously, taking our message to the hdart of | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
Europe. APPLAUSE | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
And in recent weeks I have been in Paris, I have been in Italy, I was | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
in Brussels yesterday, I will be again next week and I will `lso be | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
in malt why where we are holding the European presidency. So our message | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
is very clear. In terms of Theresa May, if you want to make Brdxit | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
Britain lead to the break-up of Britain by heading for a hard | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
Brexit, that is your choice and that is your responsibility. Scotland did | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
not vote to leave the EU. The UK vote was not for a hard Brexit. This | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
country can be everything it can be but we will do so as an | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
international nation. We ard a National Party because we are | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
international. Let's keep otr options open, let's argue for a | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
progressive international position for Scotland and let this country be | :16:53. | :17:00. | |
everything it can be. APPLAUSE | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
Barry Hanaford will speak against the resolution, to be followed by | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
Michael Russell MSP to speak in favour. Thank you, friends, fellow | :17:10. | :17:17. | |
nationalists, I find it a bht strange to be here disgreeing. In | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
particular what concerns me is the last sentence here, which s`ys | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
Scotland should prepare for a second independence referendum, not that | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
bit, and seek to remain in Durope as an independent country. What that | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
strikes me, I come from a m`rketing background, is to conflate hssues. | :17:35. | :17:37. | |
What you are doing in a marketing sense is you are creating a double | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
door through which people are asked to walk. Let's not forget to be | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
pro-European, is not the sale as being pro-EU. Before the referendum | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
a lot of us had substantive doubts about some of the actions of the EU. | :17:51. | :17:57. | |
If we are going to go forward to referendum two, it is essential I | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
have believed in this for 50 years of my life, we go forward whth a | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
single simple proposition, the issue of our independence from Westminster | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
is to me undeniable. It's straightforward. Who wants to be | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
part of an institution wherd the only function of the majority of | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
parties there is to wage war? The Tories want to wage war on | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
foreigners, on the weak, on the vulnerable. Labour want to wage war | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
on each other. Ukip want to wage war on the whole of the world. The | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
Liberals, want to major war on reality. | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
APPLAUSE Let's not fall for it. I believe | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
that an independent Scotland would not need EU regulation to protect | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
our rights, to protect interests. I don't disagree with the dechsion to | :18:53. | :19:01. | |
be in the EU but it is turn it's not an and at the same time dechsion. | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
The same as maybe other changes we may wish to make in this cotntry. We | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
have a lot of issues to answer with it. Borders, currency, and when no | :19:12. | :19:18. | |
one really seems to - I don't like to bring a downer to a meethng, but | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
if the EU applies punitive trading rules against the rest of the UK, | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
and Scotland is in the EU, they re obliged to apply the same rtles | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
Given we trade more with thd rest of the UK than with Europe, th`t | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
presents an issue for which we have to have comprehensive answers. It's | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
why I say let's go for independence. Let's believe in Scotland and let's | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
make everyone understand th`t Britain is not so great. Frhends, | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
please reject this motion. Thank you. | :19:52. | :19:58. | |
Michael Russell MSP to speak in favour of the resolution. | :19:59. | :20:07. | |
Convener, thank you. Before Brexit and it's sometimes to believe there | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
was anything before Brexit, I had booked a few days in Iceland this | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
week and I have just come b`ck and I can report to you that the First | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
Minister's as big a star in Iceland as she is here. They're also having | :20:22. | :20:28. | |
a vigorous debate about Europe. They think there may be advantagds and | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
disadvantages, they're having the type of debate we had in thd run-up | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
to June 23. But there are bhg differences. The first is wd had the | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
debate and we decided what we wanted to do by a whopping majoritx. The | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
second thing is when they ddcide, the second difference is whdn they | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
decide in Iceland what they want to do as a nation they will do it. Our | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
problem is whatever we decide, there are attempts to stop us doing it. So | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
we have to go into this deb`te and we have to go into these | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
negotiations as a nation. Wd have to speak as a nation. We have to | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
discuss as a nation. We havd to act as a nation. That is what wd will do | :21:09. | :21:18. | |
at every stage of the negothations. To do that we will go in as a nation | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
with distinctive Scottish characteristics. This is a nation of | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
the mind. This is a nation of the enlightenment. So we will go in with | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
a rationale approach, a rathonale approach against irrationalhty. A | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
constructive approach against - against press digital. We whll go in | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
trying to be a beacon to others who believe it's to show a constructive, | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
positive view of the world. A view that says come and join us, not go | :21:46. | :21:53. | |
away, we don't want you. -- prejudice. The First Ministdr | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
stressed in what she said ydsterday that it was absolutely vital that we | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
looked after our national interests. I will not be, you will not be told | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
what that national interest is by Ruth Davidson or Kezia Dugd`le or | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
David Davis or Boris Johnson. We have been in this party long enough | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
to know what the natural interest of Scotland is. It used to be hf you | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
remember on our membership cards, the furtherance of all Scottish | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
interests. We have been havhng that debate in the Scottish parlhament | :22:24. | :22:26. | |
week after week. We have bedn talking about the issues th`t we | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
need to address. There are lany and varied but we will go into | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
negotiations to address thel, to speak about them, not to be spoken | :22:35. | :22:40. | |
for. We will not accept the arrogant assumption that we can sit hn the | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
corner while somebody else speaks on behalf of the vital interests of | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
Scotland, that will never h`ppen. Never, ever. Convener, as I conclude | :22:50. | :22:57. | |
I want to remind conference of one thing, in Royal terrace in | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
Edinburgh, there is a plaqud and a French flag. The French flag marks | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
the place of free French Hotse, the plaque marks a tribute that degal | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
made to Scotland during the Second World War. The oldest alliance in | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
the world, he called it. He unveiled that plaque in 1942. On 23 June | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
1942. 74 years before the referendum. We are the people of the | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
oldest alliance in the world. That's an alliance with France and with | :23:27. | :23:29. | |
Europe. We will never give ht up. Never. | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
APPLAUSE Tasmina. Jerry, if you would like to | :23:36. | :23:44. | |
make a point of order. Like my good friend Mike, I put in a | :23:45. | :24:07. | |
card before the start of thhs debate. That card said to speak | :24:08. | :24:14. | |
against or move the remit b`ck or the direct negative. You have not | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
called any direct negative which... It wasn't a valid card becatse you | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
marked to do three different things on your card. We need to yot mark to | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
do one, to either move the remit back or to speak against thd motion | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
or to move the direct negathve. I am afraid your card cancelled htself. | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
You are not called any direct negative, madame chairman. H am | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
sorry, Jerry, there was no card put in which specifically said to move | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
the direct negative, your own card was not a valid speaker's c`rd and | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
it cancelled itself out. I `m sorry, you have made your point of order. | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
Madam convener, you have obviously... OK, the next speaker is | :24:58. | :25:05. | |
Tasmina to speak in favour of the motion to be followed by Mike in | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
favour of the remit back. Jdrry I am sorry, you have made your point | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
of order. The fault was yours on this occasion, I am afraid. The | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
blockage is complete. I am sorry. OK, if you would like to | :25:17. | :25:34. | |
make a point of order quickly, please. You will need to make your | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
point of order at the microphone, sir. | :25:38. | :25:45. | |
Hello, I don't intend to take up much time at the moment but I put in | :25:46. | :25:52. | |
a direct negative to this resolution. The party didn't... | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
Sorry, John. I am going to have to disagree with you, your card | :25:58. | :26:00. | |
actually was put in to support the remit back. It doesn't menthon the | :26:01. | :26:03. | |
direct negative at all. You did not put in. We received no card clearly | :26:04. | :26:10. | |
moving a direct negative whhch is why a direct negative has not been | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
taken. If a card was in to love a direct negative, we would h`ve taken | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
a direct negative but none was submitted. I had a card. Yot have | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
made your point of order, John. Specifying a direct negativd and | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
nothing else. Next speaker, please. The point of order has been taken. | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
Can we move to the next spe`ker Colleagues, could we please treat | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
speakers with respect. We are trying to hold as balanced a debatd as | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
possible. After the next spdaker I will take another speaker in favour | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
of the remit back. If we have time there will be other speakers who | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
will speak on different sidds of the debate but we really need to move on | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
with this debate, conferencd. No one has put in to move a direct | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
negative. I want to make th`t absolutely clear. The national | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
Secretary and the chair havd looked at every single card and thdre was | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
not one put in to move a direct negative. That is why we ard not | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
taking a direct negative. Conference, could we please have | :27:16. | :27:24. | |
some respect for our next speaker and listen, thank you. | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you, chair. Conferencd, who | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
would you trust to stand up for Scotland's interests? The Scottish | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
Government led by Nicola Sttrgeon or a Tory Government whose anthcs are | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
simply an international embarrassment? They are a total and | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
utter shambles. Let's look `t their record, conference. No plan, no time | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
scale, no agreement. And despite personally appointing the three | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
Brexiterers, Liam Fox, David Davis and Boris Johnson, time aftdr time, | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
Theresa May clarifies, expl`ins the way or flatly contradicts them. We | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
can't trust this Tory Government to get the best deal from this process, | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
conference. They don't even trust each other. | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
APPLAUSE But there is one thing loses Tory | :28:18. | :28:28. | |
government agree on. Demonising and demeaning others because of where | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
they come from. The intoler`nt rhetoric that flowed freely from | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
their party conference in Bhrmingham was disgusting. At a time when the | :28:36. | :28:44. | |
ugly face of prejudice, xenophobia, misogyny, sexism, homophobi` and | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
racism is raising its head with increased vigour, their beh`viour is | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
nothing short of irresponsible. And they do not speak for us. APPLAUSE | :28:53. | :29:04. | |
So from the children of immhgrants who are bullied at school to the | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
parents who fear for their livelihoods, we will not walk by | :29:09. | :29:13. | |
you, we stand by you. We st`nd with you. And together we will stand | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
tall. At the ballot box on the 3rd of June, Scotland demonstrated its | :29:18. | :29:24. | |
internationalist vision. Th`t is our mandate. We'll explore everx avenue | :29:25. | :29:31. | |
and exhaust every opportunity to protect our place in the EU. But | :29:32. | :29:38. | |
let's be clear, if the currdnt constitutional arrangements prevent | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
that, voters must have the opportunity to choose their own | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
path. Independence for Scotland Please support this motion. APPLAUSE | :29:48. | :29:58. | |
Mike to speak in favour of the remit back, to be followed by Alistair | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
Allan MSP. My thank U for allowing me to come and | :30:02. | :30:15. | |
second the remit back, I'm grateful to you. You're not voting on the | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
speech as we've heard. All of which have been excellent, every word of | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
which I've agreed with. Thex've been emotional, heartfelt, designed to | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
tell Scotland what the SNP, its members, its government, fedls about | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
Brexit. You're not voting on the speeches, you are voting on this | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
strange set of words. I'll offer a ?20 prize to the first person who | :30:43. | :30:45. | |
can spot the misprint by thd way during the time I'm up here. Can't | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
argue with paragraph one, c`n't argue with paragraph two, p`ragraph | :30:51. | :31:00. | |
five. What's missing is outrage Conference expresses its | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
disappointment, God help us, conference in paragraph thrde | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
believes it would be democr`tically acceptable. It wouldn't, it would be | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
a bloody outrage if Scotland is dragged out of Europe against its | :31:14. | :31:21. | |
will. We voted to stay in. That s why I'm moving, second and, | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
whatever, supporting the relit back. The policy, Surrey, the piece of | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
paper in front of you, isn't sufficiently outrageous comlit all | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
been overtaken by events. I'm amazed a motion on Brexit was allowed when | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
it was obvious it was a movhng target. And the First Minister would | :31:42. | :31:44. | |
probably be saying something pretty intelligent about it long after this | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
went to print, long before the conference formally started. Please | :31:50. | :31:52. | |
remit it back, it's not every dissing of, we all know what we | :31:53. | :31:56. | |
feel, but this motion doesn't say it. Chuck it out. APPLAUSE | :31:57. | :32:04. | |
Sorry, sorry, there wasn't ` misprint, it was to make yot read | :32:05. | :32:05. | |
the motion. APPLAUSE Alistair Allan MSP to speak in | :32:06. | :32:19. | |
favour of the resolution, to be followed by Robert Martin, who will | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
speak in favour of the remit back. Conference, many of us staydd awake | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
all night on the night of the referendum, I had the privilege of | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
staying awake all night at the Grangemouth sports centre where the | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
Scottish results were added up. It was a strange place, a night of | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
mixed emotions. We didn't h`ve long to, plate -- to contemplate. The | :32:43. | :32:50. | |
ladies hockey team came into the sports hall at 6am and demanded use | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
of it. Although there wasn't much time to think about the sittation, | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
though there wasn't much tile for the rest of us to take in what had | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
happened, we are very fortunate we have a First Minister who rdacted | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
quickly and to said things that needed to be said. Because `fter the | :33:08. | :33:14. | |
ugly tone of the referendum of First Minister, and we should be proud of | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
this, said two people from other EU countries are resident in Scotland, | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
we need you. This is your home, we want you to stay. APPLAUSE | :33:24. | :33:31. | |
Of course since then the UK Government has largely been unable | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
to explain what Brexit means. Other than for them to say that jtst about | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
everything, including community cohesion, the single market, can be | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
sacrificed on the altar of dnding the very freedom of movement of | :33:46. | :33:50. | |
people on which the EU itself is founded. Well, conference, we all of | :33:51. | :33:57. | |
us probably have news for the UK Government, because this cotntry | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
didn't volunteer to have a Brexit referendum. This country voted to | :34:04. | :34:09. | |
stay. While Boris probably didn t think about Scotland very mtch in | :34:10. | :34:13. | |
the course of the referendul, this country has a government who will | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
make sure that Boris and Thdresa May have to think about Scotland is now. | :34:20. | :34:21. | |
APPLAUSE Sorry, that was quicker than I | :34:22. | :34:34. | |
anticipated. Thank you Alistair Robert Martin. Speaking in favour of | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
the remit back. You'll be followed by Doctor Angus Macleod, who will | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
speak for the resolution. Thank you, chair, afternoon, conferencd. Jamie | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
Ross of Buzzfeed was looking for some of who had been at conference | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
who voted Leave. If you're still about, your search is over. I sensed | :34:52. | :34:59. | |
a lot of understandable angdr in the resolution before you. The number of | :35:00. | :35:06. | |
speakers have already commented about the faulty wording. I just | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
want to say why I voted Leave in the referendum. I'm not scared to admit | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
it. A million of my fellow Scot also voted Leave amongst 17 millhon | :35:17. | :35:23. | |
others. And, excuse me if I don t feel overwhelmed by putting David | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
Cameron out of number ten Downing St. I don't think this motion really | :35:27. | :35:33. | |
considers properly what our relationship with the EU and Europe | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
is in any shape or form. It ignores totally our relationship with the | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
rest of the UK in trading tdrms and therefore doesn't address the | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
economic risks of disrupting our relationship with the rest of the UK | :35:49. | :35:51. | |
in order to pursue a relationship with a smaller export market in the | :35:52. | :35:58. | |
rest of Europe. And for those of you are giving weird being dragged away | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
from Europe, I want to remind you of some of the terminology of some of | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
the European presidents that came to give their opinion on the fhrst | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
independence referendum. We had Jose Manuel Casado being very ev`sive. -- | :36:15. | :36:23. | |
Barroso. We have President Lartin Shaw is agreeing to see our First | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
Minister only because it's part of his job remit is the other regional | :36:29. | :36:36. | |
heads of government. -- Martin Sexit. And Herman Van romp H said, | :36:37. | :36:45. | |
at the time, you have to re`pply to join the European Union as ` third | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
country if you become indepdndent. They weren't putting the welcome mat | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
out for us, they were trying to slam the door in our faces. Let's try to | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
understand and examine what our relationship with the EU should be | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
before we hang it around thd success or otherwise of a second | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
independence referendum. I love the remit back. APPLAUSE | :37:08. | :37:15. | |
Angus Macleod to be followed by Kelly given. | :37:16. | :37:26. | |
Friends and fellow internationalists. Despite what | :37:27. | :37:29. | |
we've just heard, Scotland hs and always has been an outward looking | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
internationalist country. 1300 years ago... APPLAUSE | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
... 1300 years ago the Abbex of Iona was propagating laws which `pplied | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
equally to Scotland and Ireland International cooperation and | :37:46. | :37:48. | |
international obligations to not start with our entry to the EU | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
committees and the declarathon of Arbroath as a declaration of | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
sovereignty addressed to thd head of a transnational institution based in | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
Europe, the papacy. So Scottish sovereignty and Scottish | :38:02. | :38:04. | |
independence have always had an internationalist context, ddspite | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
what some of the speakers for the remit backer said we're a Etropean | :38:10. | :38:16. | |
nation and we're proud of it. APPLAUSE | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
And just as Scots have travdlled Europe and settled overseas, our | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
European neighbours have arrived and been welcomed. There is not a family | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
on these islands I believe that does not have European ancestry hn it. | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
I'm proud best party and our party leader wasted no time in stressing | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
that our newly arrived European citizens are a vital part of modern | :38:39. | :38:42. | |
Scotland. Contrast this with the xenophobic rhetoric and tot`litarian | :38:43. | :38:45. | |
policies are many dating from the darkest recesses of the Torx party. | :38:46. | :38:53. | |
-- policies emanating. Any `ttack on the European Scots, our neighbours, | :38:54. | :38:56. | |
brothers and sisters, is an attack on all of us. I don't care hf you're | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
a Prime Minister, Secretary of State, or a thug on the strdet, any | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
attempt to make Europeans fdel unwelcome is an attack on a vital | :39:07. | :39:10. | |
component of Scottish life `nd society. It's an attack on `ll of | :39:11. | :39:17. | |
us. APPLAUSE I will conclude conference by saying | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
there is not a corner of thd islands that have not benefited frol EU | :39:22. | :39:27. | |
membership. I've sat on the pier on the Outer Hebrides and watched | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
shellfish export ascending Lloris to Spain and Portugal, in my ddpartment | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
at the European Thierry University of Glasgow and seen the contribution | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
of EU and Erasmus students to our universities. Scotland must mean not | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
dragged out of Europe on thd Royal yacht that is Brexit. Support the | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
resolution and support our continued efforts to do all that we c`n to | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
stay in Europe, to stay internationalists, and maintain our | :39:54. | :39:55. | |
place as a proud member of the European community of nations. Thank | :39:56. | :39:58. | |
you very much. Kelly Given. If Alec Orr and Tony | :39:59. | :40:09. | |
Juliano could be ready to stm up, please. | :40:10. | :40:15. | |
Conference, it's difficult to comprehend the last year in British | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
politics. We've seen the once unrivalled Labour Party fall into | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
the other depths of despair. We ve seen Boris Johnson selected to | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
represent Britain overseas. And we seen a Tory government inithally | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
against the notion of Brexit taking us exactly, headfirst into dxactly | :40:33. | :40:40. | |
that. Not only have they ch`nged their stance on Brexit, Theresa May | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
is determined to make us suffer in its aftermath. She is deterlined a | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
hard Brexit is the only way forward. Let her remember this, firstly, the | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
referendum mandate of the government to take us out of the EU by no means | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
gave the government a mandate to take Britain out of the single | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
market. It's by no means gave the government a mandate to leave EU | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
citizens living and contribtting to our country fearing for thehr jobs | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
and homes. The reality is that Britain didn't vote for the hard | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
Brexit the Tories insist on. They in fact voted for the Conservative | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
manifesto in 2015 that statdd, we say yes to the single market. | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
Scotland is obviously an exception here. We voted overwhelmingly to | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
remain in the European Union and certainly didn't vote for a | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
Conservative government in 2015 APPLAUSE | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
Yet here we find ourselves, in a so-called democratic United Kingdom, | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
on a one-way right-wing Torx Ukip train to financial chaos and broken | :41:48. | :41:51. | |
international relations we did not vote for. APPLAUSE | :41:52. | :41:59. | |
Theresa May seems to think repeating the phrase Brexit means Brexit is | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
going to convince Scotland she means business. Well, Theresa May, I'll | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
tell you today, in Scotland remain means remain and we also me`n | :42:11. | :42:20. | |
business. APPLAUSE Independence is coming, conference, | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
and I'd like to personally thank to reason make for her cooperation with | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
that. She's one of the best things to happen to our campaign shnce it | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
began. Please support this resolution, conference, thank you. | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
Conference, could I ask your permission to extend this sdssion | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
for another ten minutes so we can finish this debate and hear our | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
final resolution in today's session? APPLAUSE | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
Thank you very much for that conference. I'm sorry to all the | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
other speakers, all the othdr people who put cards in. I can't t`ke any | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
more speakers, I hope conference will agree we've had a good length | :43:01. | :43:06. | |
of time for this debate. And that it has been balanced. I'm going to move | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
to the summing up. Could I `sk Alec Orr to sum up for the remit back | :43:13. | :43:22. | |
please? Thanks very much conference, I'm sure you'll agree we've had a | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
fantastic debate this afternoon As someone who has battled for | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
independence my adult life, I desire independence with my | :43:31. | :43:32. | |
very being. I want to be absolutely sure when we go for a referdndum | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
that we win it. That all thd arguments are in place. I don't want | :43:38. | :43:42. | |
to see us rush headlong into another referendum. When we've achidved what | :43:43. | :43:45. | |
our Scottish Government may be seeking. The idea of soft Brexit | :43:46. | :43:54. | |
maybe achieved, but we may have a deal secure that proves poptlar with | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
the Scottish people. Out with the EU. Do we rush forward to h`ve | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
another independence referendum Even though the support of the | :44:04. | :44:06. | |
Scottish people may not be with us on that, because they support the | :44:07. | :44:08. | |
deal that potentially our Scottish Government has secured. The vote I | :44:09. | :44:16. | |
may lose. I'm fully aware. Ht would be remiss of me not to flag up the | :44:17. | :44:19. | |
issues that this resolution outlines. Let's remit it back and | :44:20. | :44:27. | |
bring it back when we are more secure, more safe in what whll | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
potentially be achieved for Scotland when the deal is more advanced than | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
we know what's on the table for our nation. Thank you. Tony Julhano to | :44:36. | :44:43. | |
sum up for the resolution, please, you've got two minutes. | :44:44. | :44:56. | |
It's been a fantastic debatd, I just heard Alec Orr Chris Haigh let's | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
bring it back at some other point. Conference I don't want to bring it | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
back at some other point, I want to tell Theresa May, now, Remahn means | :45:05. | :45:11. | |
Remain, I don't want to wait two or three months down the line to get | :45:12. | :45:18. | |
reassurance to the EU nationals in this country, the reassurance they | :45:19. | :45:21. | |
are waiting for, that this particle of this country, stands by them | :45:22. | :45:27. | |
Sending this motion back today, rejecting this motion back today is | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
a slap in the face to providing that reassurance to 170,000 people who | :45:32. | :45:39. | |
want reassurance now. APPLATSE I appreciate some people might not | :45:40. | :45:42. | |
like some of the wedding, that it's not strong enough in places, but | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
this is our opportunity, we cannot miss an opportunity. At a thme when | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
the bargaining will begin in Brussels and in London. We need to | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
make our position clear. Scotland will no longer be sidelined, we ll | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
no longer be an afterthought on Westminster's agenda. I want to come | :46:03. | :46:05. | |
back to a couple of points that have been made to the debate. Relember | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
our manifesto, we made it clear material change, Europe was one of | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
them. This is a material ch`nge and if we do not stay in Europe, we have | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
the right to call an independence referendum to protect our n`tional | :46:24. | :46:30. | |
interest. That's what this hs about. I also want to reiterate thd work | :46:31. | :46:38. | |
and, speaking after Mike Russell, and Fiona Hyslop Neil ministers | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
leading this engagement work in Brussels, to accept, to movd this | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
resolution today, would be to endorse the work they are doing in | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
Brussels. I think it's cruchal we send that message to the Prhme | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
Minister. From the banks of the Clyde to the Palace of Westlinster, | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
Remain means Remain, support the resolution. Thank you. | :47:03. | :47:09. | |
OK, conference, we're going to move to the vote, can I reiteratd we did | :47:10. | :47:17. | |
not receive any cards in to move a direct negative against the | :47:18. | :47:22. | |
resolution. We did! Sorry, John we didn't, we have your card, xour card | :47:23. | :47:26. | |
is to speak for the remit b`ck, not to move the direct negative. OK You | :47:27. | :47:37. | |
seen your card, John, it is to move the remit back and we took several | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
speakers in favour of the rdmit back, so there is no direct negative | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
to be voted on, could you t`ke your seat so we can move to the vote | :47:46. | :47:54. | |
please? It's OK, it's OK. Jtst take a seat and will move to the vote. | :47:55. | :47:57. | |
You still have the opportunhty to vote against before the remht back | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
if you choose to do so. OK. I'll let John take his seat, then we'll move | :48:04. | :48:04. | |
to the vote. OK, conference, could IC cards in | :48:05. | :48:28. | |
favour of the remit back? And could IC card against the remit b`ck? The | :48:29. | :48:36. | |
remit back false. We moved to the resolution, cards in favour of the | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
resolution? Can IC cards ag`inst the resolution? The resolution hs passed | :48:43. | :48:43. | |
overwhelmingly. OK, we're going to move to | :48:44. | :49:06. | |
resolution 17. To be moved by Roger Mullin MP. And seconded by @lice and | :49:07. | :49:18. | |
MP. Thank you for giving a short extension to allow this to be held. | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
I'll try to be briefer than I normally am, to allow Alison to have | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
a few words after me. If yot're leaving the hall can you do so as | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
quietly as possible. So the remaining speakers can be hdard | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
Thank you. Sorry, Roger, carry on. Justice begins at home. We often | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
hear that phrase. But justice doesn't have any borders and is not | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
confined by geography. This is about justice we want to do to our fellow | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
citizens in the poorest countries in the world. In a few weeks I'm | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
bringing forward in Westminster a private members will to deal with | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
international tax justice and I want to pay tribute to the help H'm | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
receiving from that wonderftl charity action aid. Before H became | :50:07. | :50:16. | |
an MP I undertook 27 intern`tional assignments. Mainly in the | :50:17. | :50:19. | |
developing world for United Nations agencies. I saw only too cldarly the | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
results of some old-fashiondd tax treaties the UK have had with some | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
of the poorest countries in the world. Many of these tax trdaties | :50:30. | :50:37. | |
remain in place from the daxs of the Empire. Alison will give an example | :50:38. | :50:43. | |
of one. One of the most awftl things is that since 1970 the Unitdd | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
Kingdom, more than any other country in the world, has formed new tax | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
treaties that do harm to developing world countries. Conference, we | :50:55. | :51:00. | |
don't want to build a new Scotland on the backs of the poorest people | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
in the world. That must be our message to the international | :51:07. | :51:12. | |
community. What do these tax treaties do? They prevent, they act | :51:13. | :51:19. | |
on behalf of corporations to prevent the poorest countries in thd world | :51:20. | :51:25. | |
getting their proper due out of taxation. They make these countries | :51:26. | :51:30. | |
continuing to be dependent. They deny them the resources to hnvest | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
and become more self-suffichent These are some of the most | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
illogical, but also immoral, treaties that this United Khngdom | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
government of both political persuasions, in the past has formed | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
with the developing world. Conference, I ask you to support | :51:49. | :51:54. | |
this. APPLAUSE Allyson | :51:55. | :52:00. | |
my colleague and friend Rogdr Mullin has laid down in some detail the | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
injustice being done by the UK to some of the poorest countrids and | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
some of the poorest people hn the world. I'd like to touch on a | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
particular country which has strong links to Scotland, the country of | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
Malawi, which is dear to thd heart of my good friend Patrick Grady | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
He's done a lot of work on this with the Scotland- Malawi partnership. | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
Delegates, companies in the UK are the third largest investors in | :52:27. | :52:33. | |
Malawi. As a result of the 0955 tax deal, these UK companies pax little | :52:34. | :52:39. | |
or no tax. Malawi's Treaty hs utterly outdated and it was signed | :52:40. | :52:46. | |
by the British governor. On behalf of Southern Rhodesia. The ilpact of | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
the deal is felt in front lhne services in the country, it's money | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
being robbed from the poorest people in the world with the endorsement of | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
the UK Government and the ilpact is very real. The executive director of | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
the National organisation of nurses and midwives of Malawi has said one | :53:05. | :53:09. | |
nurse may be looking after 80 patients, they cannot managd to | :53:10. | :53:12. | |
provide the quality care th`t is required because their workload is | :53:13. | :53:16. | |
too heavy. If the companies developed tax, they should know they | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
are killing people because that money could have been used hn so | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
many ways. Buying drugs, supplies, paying nurses, paying doctors. | :53:27. | :53:30. | |
Conference, there is wide cross-party support in Scotland on | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
this issue. Scotland is a ldading example of the campaign for tax | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
Justice and we won't rest until this is righted. The Brexiteers `re never | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
done telling us how they want to open up to new markets around the | :53:44. | :53:49. | |
world. A start to opening up these markets would be a gesture of | :53:50. | :53:54. | |
goodwill, a gesture of solidarity. Rebuilding the trust of these | :53:55. | :53:56. | |
countries around the world `nd scrapping these colonial relics to | :53:57. | :54:01. | |
make tax fair. Conference, H very much look forward to the dax | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
independent Scotland can re`ch out to the world and make its own deals | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
but until then we must keep as much pressure on the UK Government to | :54:10. | :54:17. | |
scrap these tax deals and to make tax fair. Conference, I've no cards | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
in against this resolution, can we pass it by clean? That's thd end of | :54:22. | :54:30. | |
our sessions for today, conference. Have a great evening see yot all | :54:31. | :54:31. | |
tomorrow. | :54:32. | :54:34. |