Episode 7 Autumnwatch Unsprung


Episode 7

Live discussion after the main Autumnwatch programme. Michaela Strachan, Martin Hughes-Games and Chris Packham are joined by osprey legend Roy Dennis to answer questions.


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Listen to that, that is the sound of a unique and rare urban visitor.

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Grey plumage, a distinctive recoginsable bill, gives pleasure

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to many of those that spot him, some would say he's an Oddie, it's

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Bill Oddie, come with me, you are our special guest on Unsprung. What

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a noisy audience we have tonight. They have to prove themselves. We

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have levelledheaded Jo, waiting for all your commends, waiting for them.

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Bill will be joining us on the sofa in a moment. That would be very

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kind, I'm not just stuck on periphery like this. Not at all.

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Come to the warm sofa. Especially considering, young man, that I have

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sponsored your flipping cuckoo. I didn't know when I did it that it

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was named after you, I said I will have that one, Chris, it looks

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shriek, it looks fast and then later somebody said, that's Chris

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Packham you know. You put your money on the wrong cuckoo, I have

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been loitering around a town called Bimbo, did you know that. Honestly.

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We were winning. I got hung up with a Bimbo. I will stop you boys

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bickering, we have questions for you. I have a question for you.

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What? That waistcoat, mate. Round of applause for the waistcoat! Do I

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get a round of applause for my swan earrings. We have some questions c

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from a guy called Crazy Owl, the squirrels in my garden have eaten

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an entire sheep skull, they have actively looked at it when I moved

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it around, why would they do that? This is habit of rodents, when I

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was a young child scouring the woods for skulls, often when you

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found them, I found they were chewed by things. I found tin

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tensely annoying, wood mice, all sorts of things, would go to the

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skull bones and chew them. They want the calcium for their own bone

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growth. It is something you will find. I can imagine the squirrels

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if there was a skull lying in the garden they would go and trash it.

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We saw it with Simon. Calcium is difficult to access in certain

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areas, it is the soil, if you have a lots of calcium in the soil then

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you are all right, if you are on an acidic or neutral soil you need to

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access calcium and skull chewing is one of those things. That explains

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a lot, not your answer, but the fact you go around the woods

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looking for kuls, it explains a lot. That answers Paula Smith's answer,

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who wants to know why do garden girls select chalk and carry it

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away. Matt from the 16th Royal Artillery

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has given us this question, they are a group of soldiers on mission

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in the Hebrides, they keep finding these catterpillars, surely it is

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too cold? It is a moth, it is fox moth. I won't go any further, it is

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fox moth. Do they come out when they are cold, I have seen them as

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well. They move out when moving to pupate. When it has done all its

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feeding, it may have fed in an I can't remember not suitable to

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pupate, and that is often in soil. They will move away from the bush

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or hedge they have been feeding on, and travel quite a distance until

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they find a fisher in the ground and they will dissend and go into

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the process of pupating, then you will find them. Food of the cuckoo,

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if there were more of these in the countryside we will have more

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cuckoos. They normally feed until September? The fox moth

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catterpillar, you will see a few moment. I found a smaller moth

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species wandering across my floor. What did you do? I put it outside

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in a nice place. It is not every day you find an octopus hanging on

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a hence half a mile from the sea. What do you think, it was found in

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Scotland, was it from a bird? What do the audience think about that.

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Gone for a walk? Not favouring that. I'm going to, not learning to fly,

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I think I'm going for dropped by a bird. Nice to see an octopus,

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better to see them in finer condition than that. Keep your

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questions coming. What about our quiz, then. What we have here are

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some drawings, and the combination of the drawings, if you identified

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what they are, in combination, to tell you the name of an animal,

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this one is an example, we can explain how it works. Shall we try

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it out on the audience. I will point out what we have, I will

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stand up. It is a bottle with pear on it, and fizz coming out. On the

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other side we have a face, a very happy face. What do you reckon?

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ideas which species? Well done, Peregrine, pear-green. This is A,

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OK. That is fairly easy. Don't say it, don't say it. You said the

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audience were good, fire him! management have the right to refuse

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admission here! OK that is, let's move on, this one is B, I won't say

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everything or I will give the game away. I will just point. This one

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is C, there is patch here, it is drawing. Don't say it. Another

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drawing, and a letter in the lower corner there like that. Now this

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one is trickery. It is well thought through, well conceived, it is a

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mosaic of colours, there is a D in the corner and an arrow there,

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can't be any more precise at the moment. If you think you know the

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answers to these, and this one is trickery, I will eat someone's hat,

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if anyone gets that one. Do post the answers on the messageboard and

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Level-headed will tell us if anyone gets the answer right. It is time

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for the legendary moment, it is "whose poo?". You think you have a

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waistcoat of distinction, wait until you see the smoking jacket.

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Please tell me that's not your's? It's not mine, I'm surprised I have

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to tell you that, you should have known. I have my Sheryl lock pipe

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poised. What -- Sherlock pipe poised. What is this one? It is

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still sticky. What does it say. found it under a pile of lotion

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near Salisbury. A pile of lotion. Why is it blue, says Charley?

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you know what I think this might be, I think sometimes when you see the

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fuing GAL hyphi growing in wood it can be coloured blue or green, it

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can be transferred to the poo, something that has beening the

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rotting vegetation. I will go for a p -- that has eaten the rotting

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vegetation. I will go for that what, hold on, I tell you what, it is a

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mol le, sc or something. I tell you what, that smells like cider,

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seriously mate, you have to try that, That smells just like cider.

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Extraordinary, amazing cider blue poo, under a log, something that's

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been eating wood with blue hyphy in it. Sometimes I feel like I'm in

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I'm a Celbrity Get Me Out of Here with you two.

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Sweet wrapper poo, from Matt, found in the nature reserve in

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Hertfordshire. Beautiful, beautiful. Get rid of that quickly. That is

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large. That is nice, that is nice. Basically, what we have here is a

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predator poo of some kind. It is dark in colour, it is twisted, and

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you can see that there is fabric inside it, that is typical of a

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predator of some kind. I'm going to put this piece down and break this

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piece up and see what we have here. We have fur inside here, rabbit fur

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in here. Looking at the sides of this, it could be small fox. It is

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too big for stoat, to be honest. This bit is nice, I'm going for fox

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poo, and it has been eating rabbit, nice. Last poo, Chris, for you.

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This is loft poo, in the envelope, Jeff from Berwickshire, is that a

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county Michaela? I don't think so. We have to wrap this one up quickly,

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poo apparently is becoming tedious. This was found in someone's loft,

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again it is predator's poo, it is small and tightly wound, this could

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be pole cat, it could be pine martin, it could be stoat. Where

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was it found? In the loft. In which part of the country. Berwickshire.

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It could be pine martins they go into lofts. I had the terrible

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encounter with the stoat in the trap in the loft. I have a question

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from Nathan aged seven, what is your favourite poo, you don't have

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to answer that, he has told you, is it a poo-dle! It most certainly is!

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A poodle, that's absolutely right. Shall we not bring on the star

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guest immediately. Mr Oddie! Thank you very much. I get the koisyee

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chair. I have to say, I never -- koisyee hair, I have to say I never

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thought the Daewoo come when I was the one bringing a bit of dignity.

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I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. I try, Bill.

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I try to bring it. We have lots of questions for you, we might as well

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fire away. From Sea Carrot. Can I stop you for two seconds, your map

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has gone, hasn't it, Woodcock, Hamstead heath, last week. Woodcock.

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At last. If only you have your map. We have it on the map. They have

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gone. I love moving a magnetic Woodcock from one side of the board

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to the other. Don't we all, quite! He's in heaven, poo and Woodcock in

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one sentence. From Sea Carrot, on the blog, hi Bill, do plastic fake

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birds actually deter other birds such as her Rons. Not plastic her

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Rons, they are not real! Actually this is interesting, anyone who has

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seen my garden, a few people have, it has been on the tele,

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occasionally, within the garden I have masses of plastic predators, I

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have got a Peregrine, I have got about five little owls, I have got

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a kes tral, I have an eagle owl and a plastic heron too. People are

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throwing memory sticks at me. You're one of our's too. What was I

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saying, within the seconds or a minute or two, little birds are

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perching on their heads and so on. It is absolutely true, I timed it,

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I put the plastic Peregrine on top of the shed, we have pigeons around

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there. They are meant to be terrified of plastic Peregrine,

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within five or ten minutes I got photographs and film of them just

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walking around the Peregrine, and I have lovely pictures of Robins

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perched on owls' heads. Birds are not stupid, but people are. If you

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think about it, and you put a heron on to your fish pond, another heron

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going by will not go, there's somebody there already, sorry, fair

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dos, you take the fish, it is going to come down, because it thinks

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there must be some fish in there. Herons perfectly happily will feed

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together if there is fish. It really doesn't work. Save your

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money unless you want to look at them asthetically. Save the money

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on the heron, buy more goldfish and field them to the owls! Yes. Time

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for another question, from Jack, why are Jays so colourful? Why does

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the rainfall from the heavens, why does the sunshine! How long have we

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got? Come on, In the bird world way's are not colourful, they do

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have to be, as all of you will confirm, the bird which the public

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tend to see and come up to you and say, Chris, I have seen this funny

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bird, Jay. Extraordinary exotic species. It is Jay, it is a Jay. It

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depends on which bit they see, they say I saw this bird with bright

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white. Or white briet blue because they saw the bit on the wing. Who

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knows why they are colourful, the one thing, both male and female are

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the same with Jays. I will give awe slightly easier one to answer.

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is quite easy to answer. pigeons only scared of Sparrowhawks

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in flight. This is the reason they are asking. Because look, you have

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a sparrowhawk eating a pigeon, with another pigeon looking on. Is that

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unusual? Chris, I would say it is unusual. I would say that is

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bizarre. He hailted him, didn't he. He was like, go on mate, get him.

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He was like, I wanted to do that to Barry for years, he nicked my

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roosting spot. I think that is right. That one hired the

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sparrowhawk as a hit man! Take him out. It is a dangerous game. It is

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unusual, unless it is camera trick. He's treading on the feathers, it

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looks pretty good. We will have to ask you about the next one. Where

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is that other picture of the pigeon. Here we go. We have the pigeon here,

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look at this, I love this. The dead one or the live one. This came in

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an envelope, it says I'm wearing my lunch. Basically it is a pigeon,

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there we go. I tell you something. That is actually from a new branch

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of McDonalds up the road, it is half a pigeon sandwich! If that

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last pigeon was in trouble, that next one is toast! Thank God you

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said that, Chris. What about our largest spider competition. We have

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been running a competition to find the largest teg inaria in the UK.

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Of what the lady's name, Emme suggested this, we thought this was

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a great challenge. Once again, if you want to focus on the lower part

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of your screen, this week we offer you cute squirrels, and they will

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distract you if you are ar rack phobic, from the horrors we are

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about to expose, including this magnificent specimen. Gosh, do you

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We thought that was quite big, we went back and said can you measure

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it. We then got the correct size of Teddy bear, it wasn't that big.

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Unlike Pudsey who could do with a plug. What about the graph, which

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has been extended. Here we are, here is the mini-spider, no points

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for that, through the middle here a fine array of specimens making

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their way towards the upper erb lons, right up here at 14 points --

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14.2ms, what a magnificent spider that must have been. I was told

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that's the width of a �10. I don't carry that, nothing less than a �50.

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We have had a trophy made, here is the winning spider. Who is the

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winner? I don't know, I can't see it. I do know. What, what, where?

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Back of the graph, somebody is shouting. It is Les, 14.2cms, yeah,

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the length of a �10, I wish I knew who he was. Look at that, imagine

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that on your mantle piece, that is something to behold. What about

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that? Superb, great idea, well done to Les. Some of your videos now,

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this one is fantastic, this is from Phil Smith, have a look at this one.

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Very, very special for me. He's made his own bird feeder and on it

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is a greater and lesser spotted woodpecker. When do you get to see

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those. That is a good sight? It is a good sight to see, every time I

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see a picture like that which is so unusual, I have to say I haven't

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seen a lesser spotted woodpecker up on the heath now for three or four

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years. It used to be one of the best places in the country, we had

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about six pairs. They are disappearing, any ideas. I really

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haven't. Except that great spotted are definitely increasing. Some

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people have suggested there is competition between the two, and

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damaging the nests. I have not seen any evidence to support that.

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Literally vandalism, I don't see why that should be, particularly. I

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have no idea, I have no idea why they are going. To actually see the

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two together is rather nice, it is rather nice that they are friends.

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Greater and lesser spotted. You old softy. The farmers and the thingys

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should be friend. A beautiful home made feeder, rustic. Another one

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here, Kate, she has made this, have a look at this, she filmed this,

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two mice, a vole, a mousse and the shrew, all together, she didn't put

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them in, she set up this. Look at this brute of a shrew. He's a

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toughy. Get out of it, get out of it. I like that shrew.

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And don't come back! Shrews can be ferociously aggressive to one

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another, hugely territorial, some have toxic saliva, they have nasty

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glands which means things like owls and certain other predators won't

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eat them because of that. They can be jolly feisty. When I used to

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catch small mammals, the only thing I got bitten by were shrews and

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yellow neck mice, I like them. can confirm that, the shrew, out of

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the shrews, I think it was the water shrew, have you ever tried to

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hold one of those. I have been bitten repeatedly by them. I had

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one in a bag, and I had a couple of other small mammals, we had all

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three shrews together at the same time. This one bit its way through

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the bag in seconds and it was on noo my knee, it is seriously

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painful. We are going to see our third video being sent in, this is

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a highlight of Unspuing, as well as Bill. Of all the Unsprungs we have

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seen. This was filmed by Sophie and Liberty on the Shannon River in

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 68 seconds

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Ireland. It is astonishing. Look at Unbelievable. That is astonishing.

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Beautiful. Have you ever? What is so lovely about it, is, yes we have

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seen starling flocks doing amazing things, and various places,

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Brighton pier, or Somerset, or wherever, but to actually be out

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over the sea, near that little island. They went so close to the

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water. They rk cona million birds. -- they reckon a million birds.

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far do starlings travel to roost? They have to spread out to feed, in

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the flocks you will see groups of 20-30s, flying horizon to horizon

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to join up with the roosts, I would say many kilometres. I would agree,

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if one should repeat this, if you get a chance to go to roost it is

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fabulous, get there early enough to see the roost building up. That is

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brilliant, there is the first one, five, 20, 30, it just gets bigger

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and bigger and bigger. In fact, there is plenty of information on

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the website about where to go, and when to go. There is a blog as well

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for people to say when they went. So, yeah, get on-line and let us

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know what you see. We have the quiz answers don't we,

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has anyone got it right. They have, Hazel, and Keith, are amongst the

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first, quite a few people have got it right. That is exorderry let's

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run this past the audience. OK so here we are, the first one, anyone

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in the audience get this one? Hold on a moment. Not horseshoe

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bat? The lesser horseshoe bat, that is the smaller one! No points there.

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B then, we have a bottle, lots of "no" and a flipper. You slightly

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gave that away. This one is more trickery, anyone in the audience.

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Grey fallow rope,. This one was really trickery, really trickery,

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anyone in the audience? You got lots of blues here. Common blue!

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Yes, Sir. Lots of blues, the most common of

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the blues, very imaginative. Top work to Sam and Gavin for coming up

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with that idea, I would say. I will wander over to the map, I will tell

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you it is Children in Need, it has been happening on BBC One, we are

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auctioning off a goody bad, with some autumn and Springwatch things

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in. We are auctions off the cartoons by Mark Bardsley, all

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signed, there they are, two Springwatch tea kosies, there are

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links to how to bit for those. Tomorrow if you speak Welsh there

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is a wildlife in Welsh at Newport Wetland's Reserve. On Sunday there

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is a beach clean at Flamboroug h cliffs, there is the spot the

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birdie in Glasgow, loads of events on the website. Try and get out to

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see some starling roosts, that should be absolutely fabulous.

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have to say, stay tuned if you would like to, we have our chat

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coming up on red button and on the website. Chis Sperring speaking

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about swans. Hope you enjoyed Unsprung, going for another

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Autumnwatch Unsprung has more light-hearted post-show analysis, special guests and audience-led discussions and debates.

Michaela Strachan, Martin Hughes-Games and Chris Packham are joined in the studio by osprey legend Roy Dennis live at their base in Slimbridge, as they host nature quizzes, answer questions and and look at viewers' photos and videos.


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