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where the mighty River Wye flows through Wales and England.

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The landscape doesn't get much more beautiful than this.

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But this is an area that that's better known for its books

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than its looks. This is the Hay Festival,

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one of the country's biggest and best literature festivals.

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We're going to be meeting some of the writers here and exploring

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the themes here at the festival and in the countryside around us.

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Tom asks if we've fallen out of love with organic food.

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The premiums we had been promised weren't there.

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The financial smart thing to do then was to revert back to conventional.

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Adam's getting a hi-tech view of his farm.

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600 grams. That's incredibly light, isn't it? Very lightweight.

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And John is joined by Deborah Meaden and Simon King to launch this

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year's Countryfile Photographic Competition.

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It's quite cosy and quite warm in here.

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It is. It sure is. And a little claustrophobic!

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The River Wye meandering through fields, past towns.

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that straddles the English-Welsh border and we're based today

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in Hay-on-Wye, home to the famous festival.

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It's one of the UK's biggest and best-known literary festivals.

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We'll be soaking up the atmosphere, meeting the odd writer and

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finding literary inspiration in the surrounding countryside.

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People come from all over the world to lap up the atmosphere at

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the festival. There are all sorts of events and talks and

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a wide range of things to get involved in.

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At this year's festival, there's a strong countryside theme and

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Hannah Marshall from the Woodland Trust is going to tell me more.

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Hannah, it wouldn't be a British festival without pouring rain.

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And very fittingly, we're sitting on sunny deckchairs!

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Why not? Tell me about what the Woodland Trust are doing here at the

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festival. So, here at the festival, we're launching our charter for the

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woods and trees, it's a relaunch of the 800-year-old charter.

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It's a way to engage the public in planting trees,

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in telling us the stories and what memories they have of trees.

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We're giving away free trees to anybody that wants them and

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wants to sign the charter. What we're going to do is we're

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going to record their postcodes and we're actually going to create

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a map of where the trees are all going to be planted.

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And then from there, we're going to record that into

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our 64 million tree planting target for 2025.

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What are the trees that you've got on offer for people to take away?

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So we've got a silver birch next to you,

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which is a beautifully tall, fast-growing tree. Yes, yes.

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We've got Rowan, which is absolutely stunning for the wildlife,

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with those beautiful red berries. Oh, yeah.

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because I've got north-facing garden that's clay soil.

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It's a gardener's dream(!) Stunning. That's a difficult one.

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We'd probably go with a goat willow for that one.

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It should hopefully do well with the moist clay, if it sort of gets a

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bit waterlogged, and it'll be great for the local bees and wildlife.

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Lovely. Add me to the map. I'll take my willow away. Perfect.

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All right, I'll see you soon. Thank you. Thank you.

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'The rural setting of the festival is a key part of its charm,

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'where you'll bump into old friends.. .' Jules! Ellie!

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You absorb all the countryside getting here. Yeah.

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Cos it's, you know... It feels quite a remote place.

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I've never been to Hay before and I like wild swimming and everyone

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was like, dip in the river, and get yourself in amongst some books.

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Deep immersion in the countryside! Yeah!

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This year marks the festival's 30th anniversary.

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Peter Florence has been involved since the start.

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The festival's grown a bit in the 30 years.

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Well, yeah, but it's in really important ways exactly the

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It started out as a sort of gathering.

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You put down a picnic rug, you say, "Come and have a meal, tell

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and it's just a bigger picnic rug now.

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Why is it important that it's in this rural setting?

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It's almost impossible not to look at all this green and think -

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it's so beautiful, it's so liberating.

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you want to throw yourself into the landscape.

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What's the impact on the town and on the countryside of all these

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people descending for the festival? There have been moments when

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it's been tested. The big thing came in 2001 -

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we had foot and mouth outbreak four miles down the road,

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and we knew it was sort of game over and we called

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a public meeting and the Young Farmers said, no - if you go down,

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so they ran the footbaths for all the people to walk over

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they managed to man all the gates and all the public footpaths.

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They took ownership of the festival and it became not

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a kind of cultural thing, but a community thing.

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And restoring this place back to life without the festival,

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You come back in six weeks' time, the sheep will be back,

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the grass will be beaten down, it'll be a field again.

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There's plenty on offer besides books.

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Young minds can get to grips with all sorts of activities.

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There's herb brushes. This one's made out of mint.

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Ella, can you give me some advice on how to do this?

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What do I need to do? You have to get the end like this, that bit...

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Yeah. ..into a colour and wipe on the paper.

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Hi, Sarah. Hello. What are you making here?

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So these are based on Guatemalan worry dolls, but without the worry.

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So they're just something to tell your stories to.

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Are you guys quite inspired by the countryside, then? Yeah.

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Our Gran lives in the countryside, so we love going up to see her.

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'Later, I'll be heading off with a well-known children's

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'illustrator on a very special wildlife safari, but first...'

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the amount of land being farmed organically has been dropping.

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So are farmers falling out of love with organics, and if so, why?

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30 years ago, and a green revolution was taking place.

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It was set to change the face of farming.

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From cosmetics to crops, the organic movement promised, for those who

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could afford it, a bounty of health, taste and environmental benefits.

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And as many began to question industrial farming methods

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and what was going on our skin and in our food,

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It was expected to revolutionise our farms and food and some

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famous faces were predicting big things for it.

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One prediction is that by the year 2000,

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20% of all British agriculture will be grown organically.

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But far from revolutionising our agriculture,

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the amount of land used to grow organic food

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has actually fallen by a third here in the UK in the last seven years.

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Now, John may have predicted 20%, but we're not even close.

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In fact, right now, just 3% of our farmland is organic.

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given that the worldwide organic market is now worth ?60 billion

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and here in Britain, we account for almost 2 billion of that.

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So, if the demand is there, why aren't farmers rushing to meet it?

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Well, Dai Evans did. He owns a 300-acre sheep farm in West Wales.

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In 2008, he converted to organic, but just six years later,

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What is it that got you into organic farming in the first place?

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Well, about 15 years ago, the Welsh Assembly announced that they

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had a target of having 20% of Welsh farmers farming organically.

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We looked at the options and the package they were offering

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and we decided that was the way to go for us then as a family farm.

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Was it partly an ideological motive as well?

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That it would be good for the wildlife, the landscape?

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Obviously, we are interested in caring for our environment,

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so that we pass on to the next generation the land then in

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But changing to organic farming isn't easy.

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It's a two-year process known as conversion.

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In that time, you can't use artificial chemicals or

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fertilisers, but you can't call your produce organic either.

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For Dai, it was a tough time, but once finished,

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he'd expected to get more cash for his new organic lambs.

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The premiums we had been promised weren't there.

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We could see in our local supermarket then really that

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the cost of organic meat was higher, but the supermarkets weren't

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prepared to pass on the extra money that they received to the farmer.

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'And losing out on sales wasn't Dai's only problem.'

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There was a lot of farms that converted to organic.

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The old adage of supply and demand then and the meat then that

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was available for the supermarkets to buy, there was an oversupply.

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How did you feel about getting out of it?

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I just realised then that the market wasn't what it was perceived

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to be initially and the financial smart thing to do then was to

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Would you go back to being an organic farmer?

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We would want more guarantees that we would be financially

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rewarded then for our efforts once we were organic again.

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'And it's not just sheep farmers struggling.

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'Beef farmers rearing chemical-free cattle are working harder for

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'Arable farmers are battling disease and unpredictable demand.

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'And with costs of organic feed continually increasing,

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'even dairy farmers are feeling the pinch.'

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The simple fact is that in some areas, organic farming is

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becoming increasingly difficult and farmers are dropping out.

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So, can organic farming really work here in the UK?

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She's Head of Farming at the Soil Association.

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Don't these figures overall suggest that it's tough to make money

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out of organic farming? Some people have tried it,

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haven't really made much money, and have gone out of it again.

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Isn't that the reality? I think farming is tough.

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But organic farming is particularly tough.

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Um, I would say if you are an organic beef-and-sheep farmer,

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there's not a huge amount of difference.

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I think if you're an organic arable farmer, the requirement in terms

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of timing is far more stringent than, say, for a non-organic farmer.

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Why do you think there has been this pretty steep drop in the area

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of land under organic farming in recent years?

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I think there's been a lag effect after the recession

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many retailers decided that consumers wouldn't want to

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buy organic food, so they reduced the shelf space available.

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And hence, organic food sales fell because it just wasn't available.

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Farmers took that message and they started to come out of organic.

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What's happening now is we're seeing that reverse,

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as the demand for organic food is now in its third year of growth.

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'but can they make it work and meet the demand?'

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diversity is key and by that I mean having a range of different

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crops and also in many cases having livestock, as well as crops.

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Are you getting the government support that you need?

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Well, at the moment, farmers who want to go into conversion benefit

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from support under the Countryside Stewardship scheme,

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which takes them through the two years of conversion.

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'There is other funding to help farmers through conversion,

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'but the Soil Association say in the UK that's lower than much

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'of Europe. In Denmark, for instance, the government plans

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'to double the amount of organic land by 2020 and payments there

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I think there's a real need for support,

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in terms of helping farmers who want to go organic in understanding

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how to farm organically. And what are you doing,

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as the Soil Association, to help organic farmers?

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We've been running it now for over seven years.

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And that takes about 20 people a year who want to come in to

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Where are you seeing the green shoots of organic farming recovery?

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Where the organic farmer themselves can see

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Essentially, an independent route to market.

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And that works well for smaller businesses - especially,

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Organic farming uses a lot of labour and on a larger farm,

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so do smaller holdings have the key to growing more organic veg?

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Jamie Carr thinks so. He trained with the Soil Association.

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With no farming in his blood, but brimming with passion, he

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started his own organic smallholding in Oxfordshire, growing veg.

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Nice to see you. You've got a very vigorous-looking crop going here.

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Can I give you hand at all? Yeah, yeah, go for it. What am I doing?

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Well, we're just pinching and twisting tomatoes, so if you

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see where there's one growing out of the elbow, just snap that off.

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Simple as. Why did you get into organic farming?

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Ideological reasons. I think this is the way forward for agriculture.

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You can grow incredible amounts of crops.

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You can grow four, five crops in the same spot.

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So my two acres has suddenly become ten.

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I'm probably taking about maybe ?600 profit a month.

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That's considerably less than the average income.

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It is, but I've only been going since October, most of which

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time, I've been building polytunnels, planting things.

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what we're working on now will actually be on the market. Exactly.

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Making you a little bit more money. I don't think it's too bad.

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I struggle to work out how you can do organic on a really,

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The way that big arable operations are run,

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it feels to me too removed from all the bits that make organic work.

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You know, a really close observation of soil,

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how things interact and all this sort of stuff,

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so I think we need a lot more farmers on small operations,

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So, how am I doing? Have I ruined your crop? Dented your income?

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Um, they... I think I'll go back over them, but they look OK!

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I'm sure you'll go back and check them!

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And maybe Jamie's on to something and the future of our organic

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farming is in the hands of smallholders, driven by their

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passion and belief that their way really is the good life.

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SEAN: Our landscape has been inspirational to artists and writers

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Here at the Hay Festival, I'm meeting teenagers from all

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over Wales, chosen from hundreds to take part in the Beacons Project,

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an initiative to nurture and inspire the next generation of

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And the festival is perfectly placed, surrounded by

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stunning countryside, to bring out the budding writer in all of us.

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Some of you don't look like you like walking. I'm not sure.

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LAUGHTER There's a glum face there, no?

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Leading the workshop is local author Tom Bullou,

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who grew up on a farm not far from here.

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The landscape has played a big part in all of his writing.

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And today, he's sharing his love of his home turf with some of

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My favourite thing about storytelling is just creating a

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whole new world and being somewhere different, like you can escape.

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It can help us become closer, more empathetic,

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What could tell you that we're on the Wales-England border?

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Sheep. Sheep, yeah. No, no. It's a good point.

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The sheep, absolutely. It looks a bit sunnier over there!

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This workshop is all about getting the students to explore their

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And to put those responses into words.

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They're trying to capture fleeting moments, rapidly changing.

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A mist moves in that transforms the landscape.

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And just go through each of your senses in turn and think

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I'm heading down the hill where the mist has cleared to grab

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We're looking at some young writers who are spending most of

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their time in tents down in Hay Festival at the moment.

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And writers who are familiar with this landscape to some extent,

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But I think it's important to bring them up here and ask them to

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really look at the landscape that's surrounding them and use

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so think about what smells they might be able to pick up here,

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think about what the ground feels like, what the air feels like,

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what the cold feels like. Yeah, yeah. And it's been dramatic.

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The change has been dramatic. I mean, you think, 20 minutes ago,

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we couldn't see a couple of metres in front of us.

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But you know, if you're going to write about this part of the world,

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a dynamic landscape and the weather reflects that.

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"The rain was sniping through the unfurling fern,

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"shuddering the red globe flowers of the wimberries.

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"As they came to the common and the sheep dispersed among the quarries,

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"the wary yearlings and the bare hawthorns,

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"Oliver crossed the rutted lane and turned his back to the wind

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The Beacons Project is developing confidence in young people.

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It's really good to see experienced writers like Tom sharing

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their knowledge and encouraging the next generation to build

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"Peculiar, enigmatic, untamed, liberated.

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"The horses' refined box fringes, sculpted, yet untouched."

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"The cold is almost comforting, biting her bare hands as she sits.

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"Yet the mist is restrictive, almost opaque,

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Right, it's that time of year again -

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the Countryfile Photographic Competition for 2017

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Here's John with this year's theme and details of how to take part.

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Wilderness Britain, a landscape barely touched by human presence.

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The best our islands have to offer in any weather, in any season.

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Vistas which often only wild animals see.

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A huge challenge for anyone with a camera,

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It's time to launch the Countryfile Photographic Competition.

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Our theme this year is Call Of The Wild.

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And we want you to grab your cameras, your smartphones,

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and capture the British countryside and its wildlife at their very best.

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We've been called to the wilds of deepest Dorset.

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RSPB Arne is a sparkling gem on the edge of Poole Harbour.

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It's a place loved by award-winning wildlife presenter and

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cameraman Simon King, whose work takes him all over the world.

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And Dragons' Den mainstay and keen amateur photographer

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Deborah Meaden will also be giving her verdict on your entries.

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Luckily for Countryfile, both Deborah and Simon are once

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again in when it comes to judging our competition.

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Well, we've got a fantastic location for launching the competition

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this year. Maybe we'll go for a little photo safari in a moment.

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Let's do it. But our theme this year is Call Of The Wild,

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so what do you make of that, Deborah?

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Oh, it speaks to me because I actually get that tug towards

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nature, not just look at it, and that's what it says to me,

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Call Of The Wild, what does that mean to you?

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Well, I think the keyword there is wild.

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So for me, wilderness, as you were saying, Deborah, is what moves

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me, what motivates me, what touches me and what ignites my soul.

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It's a sense that we can be part of a landscape that is much as

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Now, let's go for a little safari, shall we?

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There are magnificent places all over the county, but Arne really

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is a standout reserve because of its diversity in such a small space.

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And it's got keystone species that you just absolutely associate

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with this sort of landscape, you hardly ever see anywhere else.

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'First stop on our safari is to try out equipment most of us

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'already have on us - smartphone cameras.

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'The insects of this freshwater pond are tricky to snap,

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'so a clip-on macro lens really helps.'

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Your minimum focus on the phone as it stands might be say 15cm,

:24:21.:24:24.

That's not close enough to get it filling the frame.

:24:25.:24:29.

This attached means you can get even closer. Ah!

:24:30.:24:32.

On my mobile phone, Simon, I can't zoom in and out. I don't know why.

:24:33.:24:45.

To be honest with you, there are some phones where you can

:24:46.:24:48.

just what looks like zoom in on the image, by expanding the image.

:24:49.:24:53.

What you are doing is cropping in on your existing number of pixels.

:24:54.:24:57.

I wouldn't do it because you can crop in later.

:24:58.:25:00.

All you're going to end up doing is actually getting a grainy picture.

:25:01.:25:03.

'Whatever your wildlife calling, can I remind you

:25:04.:25:10.

'that pictures of pets are not allowed, nor are zoo animals.

:25:11.:25:14.

'And any images of UK wildlife in captivity

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Whatever you photograph, please do it responsibly.

:25:19.:25:40.

Take care not to disturb any creatures,

:25:41.:25:42.

Next, Simon's taking us to one of his favourite spots to try

:25:43.:25:52.

They're mid price, with good zoom lenses.

:25:53.:25:57.

How close would I have to get with this camera to get quite a close up?

:25:58.:26:01.

This one, I think, has got about a 30X zoom, so actually,

:26:02.:26:04.

you could get a pretty good shot already.

:26:05.:26:06.

'RSPB Arne is home to a laid-back herd of 200 sika deer.'

:26:07.:26:15.

We do get an awful lot of deer pictures sent in.

:26:16.:26:18.

So it has to be different, doesn't it?

:26:19.:26:20.

Absolutely. The one that's going to catch the eye. Absolutely.

:26:21.:26:23.

You're right. You're looking for more.

:26:24.:26:25.

time at all four corners of the frame.

:26:26.:26:34.

How are you doing, Deborah, with your bridge camera?

:26:35.:26:36.

Well, I'm not sure I've got the special one.

:26:37.:26:39.

But actually, what I love about this is it's

:26:40.:26:41.

so light that it's really easy just to manoeuvre and hold still and...

:26:42.:26:47.

And of course, what we're looking for are wonderful pictures of

:26:48.:26:50.

the countryside, not necessarily with wildlife.

:26:51.:26:53.

Well, actually, I've just taken some pictures of this really gorgeous...

:26:54.:26:57.

I looked up and thought it just looks lovely.

:26:58.:27:03.

Do you think you've got what it takes to enter?

:27:04.:27:06.

We'll be looking at every one of the many thousands of entries

:27:07.:27:13.

that you send in and picking the very best for our Countryfile

:27:14.:27:16.

calendar, which goes on sale later this year in aid of

:27:17.:27:19.

Buy one and you'll get some amazing photos to look at on your

:27:20.:27:24.

And of course, as usual, we'll have an overall winner,

:27:25.:27:29.

voted for by you, our Countryfile viewers.

:27:30.:27:35.

Not only will that picture grace the cover of our calendar, the winner

:27:36.:27:38.

will receive a voucher for ?1,000 to be spent on photographic kit.

:27:39.:27:44.

The person who takes the judges' favourite photo will receive

:27:45.:27:47.

a voucher for ?500, also to be spent on equipment.

:27:48.:27:52.

And specialist kit can be a godsend in trying to snap elusive

:27:53.:27:56.

In goes the camera. And this? Yes, please, yeah.

:27:57.:28:03.

'Arne is home to one of Britain's rarest birds,

:28:04.:28:06.

'the Dartford warbler. They're hard enough to see,

:28:07.:28:09.

It's quite cosy and quite warm in here.

:28:10.:28:13.

It is. It sure is. And a little claustrophobic.

:28:14.:28:19.

'Patience is certainly a virtue when it comes to photography in the wild

:28:20.:28:23.

'and Simon will be back later to await his camera-shy subject.

:28:24.:28:30.

'But in the meantime, let's get his expert opinion on how

:28:31.:28:34.

'successfully Deborah and I captured our walk on the wild side today.'

:28:35.:28:40.

Well, here's one I got on the mobile.

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And it was what you were saying, Simon,

:28:43.:28:44.

because I took a big wide shot but then if you crop it, you see?

:28:45.:28:48.

Yeah, nice frame. That's lovely. There's the damsel fly.

:28:49.:28:51.

And it almost looks as though it's been caught in a net, doesn't it?

:28:52.:28:54.

Yeah, with the reflected reed. Yeah, yeah.

:28:55.:28:57.

That's a very good tip. Now, Deborah. What about yours?

:28:58.:28:59.

Well, I did mine with the bridge camera, of course.

:29:00.:29:02.

You've got a good eye on this, Simon, but I quite like this one.

:29:03.:29:06.

That's actually quite a nice composition.

:29:07.:29:08.

Yeah, and the way she's actually looking straight...

:29:09.:29:10.

People talk about thirds in pictures and if you're dividing your

:29:11.:29:13.

picture into thirds, this is the classic example.

:29:14.:29:15.

You've got your lower third, centre and the upper third.

:29:16.:29:18.

Centre of interest with the log in the middle. Deer at the bottom.

:29:19.:29:23.

And I like the position of the three heads as well.

:29:24.:29:25.

Yeah. Well, thank you very much, both of you.

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And see you for the judging. Looking forward to it.

:29:29.:29:33.

Well, why not go on your own photographic safari and enter

:29:34.:29:36.

You can submit up to three photographs that fit our theme,

:29:37.:29:42.

We need your name, address and a contact number, written on

:29:43.:29:49.

the back of the print, with a note of where the picture was taken.

:29:50.:29:54.

The competition closes at midnight on Friday, the 21st of July.

:29:55.:30:14.

Because we're looking for a really fresh crop of pictures,

:30:15.:30:18.

I'm afraid those that have won previous national competitions

:30:19.:30:21.

are not allowed, and neither is the work of professionals.

:30:22.:30:25.

and I'm afraid that it's just not possible

:30:26.:30:30.

The full terms and conditions are on our website,

:30:31.:30:37.

where you'll also find details of the BBC's code of conduct

:30:38.:30:40.

The competition closes at midnight on Friday, the 21st of July,

:30:41.:30:48.

so that means you've got just under five weeks to send in your entries.

:30:49.:30:52.

So why not heed the call of the wild and get those shutters clicking?

:30:53.:30:59.

Did he capture Arne's camera-shy Dartford warblers?

:31:00.:31:05.

ELLIE: We've been taking a look round the Hay Festival,

:31:06.:31:18.

one of the biggest celebrations of books and words in the country,

:31:19.:31:21.

and there's one author I'm keen to meet.

:31:22.:31:25.

He's funny, he's clever, he's handsome...

:31:26.:31:28.

I just hope he's as nice in real life as he is on the telly.

:31:29.:31:32.

'Scuse me, would you mind signing my programme?

:31:33.:31:35.

What are you doing at a literary festival? Can you read?!

:31:36.:31:42.

Luckily, there are also professionals around.

:31:43.:31:46.

well-known for the Horrible Histories series,

:31:47.:31:51.

has turned his hand to wildlife with his latest book,

:31:52.:31:53.

And we're off spotting animals of our own.

:31:54.:32:04.

Even though we're just a short hop from the hustle and bustle

:32:05.:32:07.

of the festival here, it feels like a world away.

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A world that's full of curious creatures.

:32:12.:32:14.

Hi, Martin. Hi, how are you? All right. And you? Very well indeed.

:32:15.:32:18.

Got some beautiful cows here. They're quite well-known.

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I thought you were all about the lesser-known animals.

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Yeah, I guess I've been drawing the more exotic animals

:32:24.:32:26.

Well, shall we do a local safari, and we'll see some of the small

:32:27.:32:31.

and wonderful creatures from around here? Brilliant! Good.

:32:32.:32:33.

And draw as we go? I think so. All right, thank you. Here's a pencil.

:32:34.:32:37.

'We're in the Woolhope Dome area of Herefordshire,

:32:38.:32:41.

'where farmer and conservationist Mark O'Brien is showing us around.'

:32:42.:32:45.

Mark, your farm seems to be a haven for wildlife.

:32:46.:32:49.

Yeah, that's just because there's an abundance of different habitats,

:32:50.:32:52.

and also in these woods, we're doing a lot of copsing

:32:53.:32:55.

to help the rare invertebrates in the wood.

:32:56.:32:58.

Fantastic. So you're managing it sympathetically.

:32:59.:33:01.

We've got rare wood white butterflies

:33:02.:33:03.

along this woodland path here, so would you like to see some?

:33:04.:33:05.

Yeah. Have you seen one of those before? No, no!

:33:06.:33:07.

Wood white butterflies are on the wing right now,

:33:08.:33:15.

but you'll be lucky to catch a glimpse -

:33:16.:33:17.

They seem to be out when the sun is out, they're on the wing then,

:33:18.:33:22.

so we're just going to have to try and draw when we see them,

:33:23.:33:25.

or from our imaginations. How about that?

:33:26.:33:27.

so I can kind of remember what they were when they were still.

:33:28.:33:31.

This is proper safari sketching, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

:33:32.:33:34.

Quite angular little bodies, and then, really,

:33:35.:33:37.

kind of overlapping wings when they stop.

:33:38.:33:41.

Often it's the male that we see out on the wing,

:33:42.:33:44.

and they've got this dark edge to their forewing,

:33:45.:33:46.

That's how you tell a male from a female. Like a shadow. Yeah.

:33:47.:33:51.

That's so fluttery. Here we go. Please keep still!

:33:52.:33:55.

Just for a moment. Come on, this way, this way. Wait for it...

:33:56.:34:00.

That's it, no, I've got... That's like a heart shape, that wing. Yeah.

:34:01.:34:06.

That's got to come down there much more.

:34:07.:34:09.

Just the slightest bit of pale markings showing through

:34:10.:34:13.

So this would be how a child would draw it. That's good.

:34:14.:34:18.

Children draw really well! SHE LAUGHS

:34:19.:34:21.

Look, I've got... I've got a shape. You've got that beautiful wing.

:34:22.:34:23.

That sort of heart-shaped thing, and then... It IS quite heart-shaped.

:34:24.:34:26.

That was a hard one to start with. Next time we'll be luckier.

:34:27.:34:29.

I reckon. OK. Let's try the next one.

:34:30.:34:33.

There's probably about 15 of the nests in old trees

:34:34.:34:43.

How fabulous. It's stunning. Shall we do a bit of sketching?

:34:44.:34:49.

People might not have heard of wild honeybees.

:34:50.:34:51.

They're essentially as a cultivated honeybee,

:34:52.:34:54.

but just not managed by people, is that so? Exactly, exactly.

:34:55.:34:57.

Well, I like my exotic stuff, but this has shown me

:34:58.:35:00.

that there's amazing, amazing creatures right on your doorstep.

:35:01.:35:05.

Shall we move on and see what else there is?

:35:06.:35:09.

The countryside around Hay-on-Wye is home to a huge variety of wildlife.

:35:10.:35:17.

You could easily get lucky and see a barn owl,

:35:18.:35:20.

The next animal on our safari is a real superstar.

:35:21.:35:28.

Definitely on the lesser-spotted list in recent years.

:35:29.:35:34.

OK, David, we've got a nest in here.

:35:35.:35:37.

Small-mammal recorders Denise Foster and her colleague David Lee

:35:38.:35:41.

regularly checking the nest boxes in the area.

:35:42.:35:50.

Hi, Ellie, yes, we have, we've got two in this box. Wow!

:35:51.:35:55.

as you can see, they're quite grey in colour.

:35:56.:35:59.

Is this the first time you've ever seen one? Yeah.

:36:00.:36:01.

This time of year, they're eating caterpillars and insects,

:36:02.:36:04.

and they're normally high up in the canopy,

:36:05.:36:06.

so we're extremely lucky to find these two in this box today.

:36:07.:36:08.

They're hard to spot at the best of times, aren't they,

:36:09.:36:10.

And what's the monitoring you're doing?

:36:11.:36:14.

We just sort of weigh them and then sex them, so male and female,

:36:15.:36:17.

We'll leave you to it. Thank you so much! OK. See you later. Thank you.

:36:18.:36:26.

'This time, we're relying on photographs to draw from.'

:36:27.:36:30.

Not sure about my interpretation skills, but I'll do my best.

:36:31.:36:34.

I'm a cartoonist - I don't draw realistically ever.

:36:35.:36:38.

You've done that thing that artists do way you draw an egg

:36:39.:36:41.

and you draw a box, and you've actually then

:36:42.:36:42.

It's that thing of kind of seeing the shapes in the thing

:36:43.:36:47.

Like, a cow is basically a box with a pointy bit at the front. Yeah.

:36:48.:36:52.

Slugs are easy. SHE CHUCKLES

:36:53.:36:55.

All you need is a pad and pencil, and the great outdoors,

:36:56.:36:59.

and you, too, can head out on your own lesser-spotted safari.

:37:00.:37:08.

Now, the lack of rainfall in the last few months

:37:09.:37:11.

has been a worry for farmers up and down the land.

:37:12.:37:14.

But Adam's seeing how high tech can help.

:37:15.:37:28.

ADAM: So far, this year has been one of the driest in a decade.

:37:29.:37:31.

Some areas of the UK have had a fifth of their normal rainfall.

:37:32.:37:35.

As farmers, we're in the lap of the gods sometimes,

:37:36.:37:40.

especially when it comes to the weather and pests and diseases.

:37:41.:37:44.

we can work with Mother Nature to get the best out of our crops.

:37:45.:37:53.

'Farming may be one of our oldest industries, but in this digital age,

:37:54.:37:56.

'many farmers now rely on advances in agricultural technology.'

:37:57.:38:02.

Here on our farm, the crops are kept in check by an agronomist.

:38:03.:38:06.

and he walks the fields with our arable manager, and then advises

:38:07.:38:11.

on seed varieties, fertiliser, and crop-protection products.

:38:12.:38:15.

But some farmers are taking to the skies

:38:16.:38:18.

to pinpoint areas that need attention.

:38:19.:38:26.

Paul O'Shea and David Caplin get a bird's-eye view of the crops

:38:27.:38:30.

using this bit of kit that Paul's just putting together.

:38:31.:38:37.

Hello. How are you doing, OK? Yes, good thanks.

:38:38.:38:45.

My word, this looks very exciting. What have we got here?

:38:46.:38:47.

This is a professional mapping drone that we use primarily

:38:48.:38:50.

in the construction industry, but more recently,

:38:51.:38:52.

we've recognised that it has its uses in the agricultural market.

:38:53.:38:56.

It basically identifies healthy crop from dying crop. Brilliant.

:38:57.:38:59.

Now, I'm not highly technical, so how does it work?

:39:00.:39:02.

Well, we upload a flight plan on our computer,

:39:03.:39:05.

It's fully autonomous - we throw it in the air,

:39:06.:39:09.

it flies the fields, and captures data at the same time.

:39:10.:39:11.

The drones I've seen are like little helicopters,

:39:12.:39:14.

Yes, they're multi-rotors - this is what's called a fixed wing.

:39:15.:39:19.

It's a lot lighter, it can go longer distances,

:39:20.:39:22.

and therefore it can gather more data.

:39:23.:39:24.

Can I hold it? Yes, you sure can. 600 grams.

:39:25.:39:27.

That's incredibly light, isn't it? It is very lightweight.

:39:28.:39:29.

ADAM CHUCKLES Basically polystyrene!

:39:30.:39:31.

Can we see it in the air? We sure can.

:39:32.:39:33.

If you stand back, we'll get it up for you. OK.

:39:34.:39:45.

As the drone soars to a height of 120 metres,

:39:46.:39:58.

it will follow a flight plan up and down our fields.

:39:59.:40:02.

and with the help of a special camera,

:40:03.:40:06.

Paul is able to convert the images into a colour index called NDVI.

:40:07.:40:12.

I really need a science bod to explain the basics to me,

:40:13.:40:15.

So, this leaf from the crop is a nice, healthy green.

:40:16.:40:21.

This one here is less healthy, more of a yellowy colour,

:40:22.:40:24.

is reflecting very strongly in the colour green.

:40:25.:40:29.

It's not reflecting so strongly in the red colour or the blue colour.

:40:30.:40:33.

so this one is reflecting slightly less green and slightly more red.

:40:34.:40:39.

That's why it appears yellow in colour.

:40:40.:40:41.

And our NDVI camera is trying to detect the difference

:40:42.:40:43.

That's all very clever, but can I not see that with my naked eye -

:40:44.:40:47.

where there's yellow and where there's green?

:40:48.:40:50.

You can, yes, but it'll take you quite a while

:40:51.:40:52.

So the advantage of the drone is it flies at about 60 miles an hour,

:40:53.:40:56.

and it can cover that distance in a lot shorter time.

:40:57.:41:00.

It sounds like this device can save us farmers a lot of time and energy.

:41:01.:41:11.

An agronomist who I've been working with for the last 25 years.

:41:12.:41:21.

Hi, Jim. Hi, Adam. My word, look at you with your computer.

:41:22.:41:24.

How things have changed over the years we've been working together!

:41:25.:41:27.

It's moved on a bit, hasn't it? It really has!

:41:28.:41:29.

How can this be used, then? How can you benefit from the drone?

:41:30.:41:34.

Currently we do use satellite imagery

:41:35.:41:39.

Now, a drone is able to usurp to some degree the satellite imagery,

:41:40.:41:45.

because it's not dependent on cloud level.

:41:46.:41:48.

The other advantage is that its resolution is much higher

:41:49.:41:51.

You know, they're small enough and beginning to become cheap enough

:41:52.:41:55.

for farmers to actually own themselves.

:41:56.:41:57.

Even though Jim has known these fields for donkey's years,

:41:58.:42:00.

the eye in the sky is giving him a view he otherwise wouldn't have.

:42:01.:42:04.

He's going to show me how he can pinpoint a problem area.

:42:05.:42:07.

It's called an Umbelliferae, but in basic terms, wild carrot. Right!

:42:08.:42:15.

Now, we know we've got to strip down this edge of the field,

:42:16.:42:22.

and to be fair, it wouldn't take any great determination

:42:23.:42:25.

to work out where to put the sprayer.

:42:26.:42:27.

But if we'd had this strip out in the middle of the field, and...

:42:28.:42:31.

not exactly forgotten where it was, but couldn't work out exactly

:42:32.:42:33.

where it was, a big thick strip of this in the middle of a field

:42:34.:42:36.

A lot of wet seed, which is difficult to deal with,

:42:37.:42:40.

causing a lot of problems in storage.

:42:41.:42:42.

So, we would know where we had to go and put the sprayer.

:42:43.:42:45.

The sprayer could go out, spray off without doing the whole field,

:42:46.:42:48.

It's about that accuracy for you, isn't it? It is.

:42:49.:42:53.

Not putting the wrong stuff in the wrong place.

:42:54.:42:55.

It's all about that, because you imagine what it's like

:42:56.:42:57.

trying to wade out through this crop.

:42:58.:42:59.

Trying to work out where that strip is

:43:00.:43:01.

out in the middle of the field would take an enormous amount of effort.

:43:02.:43:04.

It is, and this is a short crop compared to some!

:43:05.:43:09.

You know, so, the ability of that drone to pinpoint

:43:10.:43:12.

where the problem is is hugely useful from our point of view.

:43:13.:43:22.

Using drones as a tool to survey our crops

:43:23.:43:24.

but can also be good for the environment,

:43:25.:43:30.

and a useful weapon in the fight against dry conditions.

:43:31.:43:35.

The sprayer has been programmed to target those problem areas.

:43:36.:43:41.

They say that the definition of a good farmer is a man outstanding

:43:42.:43:45.

in his field, which basically means we'll never get away

:43:46.:43:47.

from walking our crops, but it's been great seeing the drone

:43:48.:43:51.

The progression of technology in agriculture is just extraordinary,

:43:52.:43:56.

and what's important is that we make the most of it

:43:57.:43:58.

SEAN: Back in Hay-on-Wye, the literary festival is in full swing.

:43:59.:44:21.

There's a feast of books to feed the mind,

:44:22.:44:24.

but it's my grumbling tummy I need to sort out,

:44:25.:44:26.

and I think I've found the right place.

:44:27.:44:27.

Hay Festival might be all about the books,

:44:28.:44:33.

in supporting local food producers, too,

:44:34.:44:37.

and there's plenty of good local food to tickle the tastebuds.

:44:38.:44:43.

Recent years have seen a surge in the popularity of venison,

:44:44.:44:46.

but one Welsh farm was way ahead of the curve,

:44:47.:44:49.

selling the meat here at Hay for the past 30 years.

:44:50.:44:57.

This sheep-farming family took the bold and brave decision

:44:58.:45:01.

to switch from rearing small, woolly animals to keeping much larger ones.

:45:02.:45:06.

You wouldn't mess with one of those, would you? No.

:45:07.:45:13.

They caught the venison bug on a trip to New Zealand,

:45:14.:45:16.

Andrew and Elaine now farm a 300-strong herd of deer in the

:45:17.:45:21.

They're so graceful, aren't they? Just elegant.

:45:22.:45:26.

But difficult to round up, I guess. No, not too bad.

:45:27.:45:29.

Would we be in this field during rutting season?

:45:30.:45:34.

Not in the rutting September time, no, it would be, you know,

:45:35.:45:37.

it wouldn't be a safe place to be. Are they just dangerous anyway?

:45:38.:45:40.

Looking at the - well, the antlers on those. No, they're...

:45:41.:45:43.

They could do some damage, couldn't they?

:45:44.:45:45.

As long... We see them most days, so they become familiar with us,

:45:46.:45:48.

Venison is becoming quite fashionable now,

:45:49.:45:52.

but you were doing this back in the '80s.

:45:53.:45:54.

It's very popular, you know, chefs, telly programmes raise the profile.

:45:55.:46:00.

Is it a seasonal meat? In the same way as sheep.

:46:01.:46:02.

Historically it was, but because we're in a farmed environment,

:46:03.:46:07.

we've got a consistent supply of a good product all year round.

:46:08.:46:14.

It's been a busy week for the Morgans,

:46:15.:46:16.

but now they're ready for the festival.

:46:17.:46:18.

Your tomatoes are a bit thick, aren't they?

:46:19.:46:20.

I think I'm better at front of house. Yeah, I reckon so, too.

:46:21.:46:24.

And their daughter, Megan, really knows how to crack the whip.

:46:25.:46:29.

So, salad first. Yeah, how much of this do we put in?

:46:30.:46:31.

Oh, not too much. Is that going to ruin all your profits?

:46:32.:46:34.

Yeah. Not too much now. One slice of tomato, not too many.

:46:35.:46:38.

so can one of these burgers slip off the conveyor belt into my plate?

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Oh, if you work hard enough today, maybe.

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So, the burgers, where are they? Just in the middle one there.

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I have to say, they look very nice today. Oh. Just today? Every day.

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I picked out a really good one for you there.

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Are you having the burger with the salad?

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Whilst the Morgans made the move from sheep to dear,

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Martin and Juliet Noble share an anniversary with the Hay Festival.

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It was 30 years ago on a farm not far from here that they

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became the first commercial producers of sheep's milk ice cream.

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you made the switch from cow's milk to sheep's milk.

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Well, we did that because actually we were new to farming when

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we started milking sheep and we didn't really know how to milk cows,

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and I suppose the whole investment in equipment was much higher.

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And we'd read a book that told us that from sheep, you could get...

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From dairy sheep, you could get milk,

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And then we started to make ice cream quite soon afterwards.

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How did it go down 30 years ago, sheep's milk ice cream?

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Well, it was slightly challenging, we used to have sheep's milk written

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on all our signs and things, and every now and again you would see

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people in the queue and they would spot it and go,

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"Oh, it sheep's milk." And they'd leave the queue.

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We spent a lot of time trying to get people into the queue.

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What are customers like here at Hay?

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Well, Hay customers are, you know, they're right up for it.

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And also, because we've been here 30 years, loads of people come,

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You must feel really proud that the people keep coming back.

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Certainly, ice cream is a lovely thing to do,

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people are always happy when they buy ice cream.

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Does it make any difference that it's sheep's milk?

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Does it taste any different to normal ice cream? No.

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They just capture such good, different flavours.

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It's not quite as rich as cow's milk.

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do I rummage around the book stores looking for a literary bargain?

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Or do I spend my pennies on an ice cream?

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but fingers crossed it will be over the next week.

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Let's find out from the Countryfile five-day forecast.

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It's a case of, be careful what you wish for. The place to be was along

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the coast today, eating an ice cream. A bit of fair weather cloud

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in Scotland, but a beautiful day, hardly a cloud in the sky for

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Cornwall. In the south-east, it was the hottest day of the year so far,

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32 Celsius in Greater London. The heat was fairly extensive today

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across England and Wales, high 20s and low 30s, as you can see. Just

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the far north-west, a little more disappointing, with cloud and

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showery outbreaks of rain continuing. The hot air has been

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sitting to the south of that weather front, behind it, fresher

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conditions. That will play a subtle part as we move into Tuesday. That

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front in the south-west is still producing showery outbreaks of rain

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and poor visibility on the coast. Further south, a humid, sticky night

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for trying to sleep. It will be a warm start to Monday morning, hardly

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a cloud in the sky again and the temperatures are set to rocket. The

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weather front slowly sinks its way south into central Scotland, but for

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the bulk of the country, a dry and sunny story, with just the outside

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chance of catching a shower if the heat triggers them off, but they

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will be fleeting. Temperatures could be up to 31 Celsius. With light

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breezes, it could feel pretty hot, even close to the coast. Clouding

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over a little into Northern Ireland and Central Scotland as we go into

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the day, from that weather front. The Northern Isles and the Western

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Isles will see some brightness tomorrow, maybe just a shower, but

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certainly better than it has been. The weather front will sink South

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overnight from Monday into Tuesday. Nothing in terms of rain, but behind

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it is a cold front, so fresher air. Mid-teens into Scotland, mid-to high

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20s into Scotland. It stays hot and humid to the south of that front.

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That front clears through as we move into Wednesday and allows this front

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of moving from the Atlantic, which could trigger sharp potentially

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thundery downpours. It will steadily push its way to the East, but ahead

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of it, a good deal of dry weather, with that heat remaining in the

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south-east. A little fresher to the north-east with the breeze from the

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sea. These two weather fronts are straddled across the country, known

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as a broad warm sector, and that will drag in hot air out of the

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south-east. On Thursday, we could see temperatures around 30 Celsius

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and above, but it is a fleeting heat, because behind that front,

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fresher air, and many will see high teens and low 20s. An area of low

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pressure moves in on Friday to the north-west, bringing increasing wind

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and heavy rain for a time across the Northwest and into Northern Ireland.

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It will weaken as it pushes east, so no substantial rainfall for England

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and Wales. A more pleasant feel, albeit on the breezy site. That is

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the theme as we go into next weekend. Some cooler days and

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fresher nights. And it is a case We are at the Hay literary festival

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in the beautiful Wye Valley. Thinkers and writers from all over

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the world have gathered to share ideas in the most perfect

:52:51.:52:53.

rural setting. I've been exploring the

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countryside round about, and the wildlife safari I did

:52:58.:52:59.

earlier has left me wanting more. There's one creature I'm

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dying to see. My pursuit started back in

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March up in North Wales, where I only saw them from

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a distance. I'm headed for Herefordshire,

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countryside to stir the spirit. And for a lover of wildlife,

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a kind of paradise. Ecologist Nigel Hand shares

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my passion. He's been studying these elusive

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animals for a decade. If anyone can get

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me close to an adder, it's him. Hi, Nigel, how are you? Hello.

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Good to see you. Nice to meet you. So, what's your method for tracking

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down the adders, then? Well, bizarrely, I can smell them

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on site, which sounds a bit odd. Can everyone smell them, or have you

:53:51.:53:55.

just got a particular sense for it? I think I've been working round

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them so long now. Is that the only method?

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No, I have another method, actually. Radio telemetry.

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This looks more technical. So I have a receiver and an aerial,

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and we put a tag on a snake. And then we type its number in

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and pick up the signal of the So you've tagged

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a number of snakes around this site? We've tagged ten snakes on this

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site, and we've been following

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them around since early April. So which one are we going

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to go and track? We are going to go track 299,

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which is a female. OK. The sun's out,

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so she might be basking. 'Right now,

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299 could have shed her skin, 'which means she may have cast off

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the tracking device, too. 'We can't be sure of what we'll

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find.' We're very close now.

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Do I need to keep quiet? 34. It's really exciting!

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SHE WHISPERS: I like this. I guess with those very

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distinctive zigzag markings, in this dead bracken,

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she'd be so well camouflaged. I think she's curled up in there,

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Ellie, actually. 'On with the special bite-proof

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gauntlets.' Oh, my goodness, Nigel,

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you're so good at finding them. I'm just going to grab her,

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just to have a quick look at her condition and see how close she is

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to shedding her skin, Ellie. You can see the tag there on her

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quite clearly. Yes, it's put on with

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a medical tape, Ellie, and the aerial is

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about 12 centimetres. Oh, I see. It looks almost like it's

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gone under the skin, And it doesn't change

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the way they behave? Not at all, we've seen them

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combating, in courtship and mating,

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and even feeding with the tags on, so it doesn't seem to impair

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their behaviour. we've pulled her out of the very

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humid part of the dead bracken. At this time of year, when they're

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coming to shed their skins, they need that humidity to help

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soften the skin. Today or tomorrow, she's probably

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going to shed her skin. So we'll be finding another tag

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at some point. That's really exciting,

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getting this close to one, isn't it? That was so cool,

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seeing her so close up! Do you still get the buzz even

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all these years on? It doesn't leave you, actually.

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I think every snake is a new snake. Nigel's research

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has shown that males travel greater distances than females during

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the breeding season. And where adders come

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face-to-face with humans, like here on this golf course,

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Nigel's work is helping landowners manage their patch for

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these rare animals. There are an estimated 100,000 adult

:56:33.:56:37.

adders in the UK, a number which has massively declined in recent

:56:38.:56:42.

years, mainly due to habitat loss. But they're pretty

:56:43.:56:46.

oblivious to humans, which is why they can peacefully

:56:47.:56:48.

coexist here alongside the golfers. If we leave them alone,

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they should do us the same courtesy. The Wye Valley is

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a landscape full of surprises. Back at the Hay Festival, we've got

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a big surprise of our own to share. Please put your hands together for

:57:13.:57:18.

the Countryfile presenters Good evening, everybody.

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:57:22.:57:29.

Hay Festival for having us. And thank you to everybody who

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has bought the Countryfile calendar for 2017. Yes,

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And that figure is... It's a staggering amount going to

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Children In Need, and it's a record-breaker for us,

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too. And if you'd like to take part in

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next year's calendar, by entering our photographic competition,

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all the details are on our website. Next week, I'll be taking a look at

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some of our working animals, including the robots that are

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changing the face of falconry. Not to be missed.

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