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Cyngor gan arbenigwyr am sut i ddiogelu dofednod rhag ffliw adar. After cases of bird flu are found in Wales - we'll hear the latest and get advice from experts on how to protec...


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-Hello and welcome to Ffermio.

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-Our attention

-is focused on the news...

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-..that avian flu was discovered

-here in Wales a few weeks ago.

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-During the programme, we'll find out

-the latest about the disease.

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-We'll also get expert advice

-on how to protect your poultry.

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-Also on the programme, Alun meets

-some champion pigs in Llithfaen.

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-It was a big privilege

-for us to win.

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-The judges' comments...

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-..were that the enterprise

-was holistic...

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-..and that the breeding

-and pedigree side of things...

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-..were being combined

-with the marketing.

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-We also visit

-the Oxford Farming Conference.

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-There were a variety of speakers

-and Brexit was the main subject.

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-First, before Christmas...

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-..it was confirmed that the H5N8

-avian flu strain had reached Wales.

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-What's the latest and how

-can we keep our poultry healthy?

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-The first case was found

-in a wild duck in Llanelli.

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-Since then,

-the virus has been found...

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-..in a flock of hens and ducks

-on a smallholding in Pontyberem...

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-..and in a wild duck in Conwy.

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-What is the advice of Wales'

-Chief Vet, Christianne Glossop?

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-If we're right in assuming...

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-..that the key risk factor

-is wild bird transmission...

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-..then what everyone with poultry

-and any captive birds can do...

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-..is all they can

-to protect their birds...

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-..from contact

-with those wild birds.

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-We know we have infected wild birds

-in various parts of Great Britain.

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-So, we can't assume

-that any wild bird is safe.

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-We introduced a requirement

-across Britain before Christmas...

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-..that all captive birds

-should be brought indoors.

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-We know that's sometimes

-not possible.

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-It's difficult

-to house certain species.

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-The idea is to break the contact

-between wild and domestic birds.

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-At least putting a fine mesh cover

-over a pen...

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-..and making sure that birds are

-always fed and watered indoors...

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-..will reduce the risk of contact

-between wild and domestic birds.

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-That's a key thing people can do.

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-Another is to think hard

-about biosecurity.

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-There is a real risk

-that if someone...

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-..is out walking or shooting...

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-..and have direct contact

-with a wild bird...

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-..and then come home without washing

-their boots, their hands...

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-..or worse still,

-bring the dead bird home...

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-..and put it

-anywhere near their poultry...

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-..then there's a risk

-their birds could become infected.

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-It's about biosecurity and housing.

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-Since the start of December...

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-..Wales has been

-an avian flu prevention zone.

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-The government

-asks keepers of poultry...

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-..and other captive birds

-to keep their birds inside.

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-What does that mean

-for poultry farmers...

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-..like Gareth Jones, the manager

-here at Rhug Estate near Corwen?

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-The government guidelines say...

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-..that everyone who keeps birds

-must keep them inside.

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-They're used to being outside.

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-The way we farm is for them

-to be outside all day, every day.

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-Now, obviously,

-we must keep them indoors.

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-How many hens do you have here?

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-At any one point, we have

-between 7,500 and 8,000 hens.

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-Have the confirmed

-avian flu cases in the UK...

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-..affected the business

-here at Rhug at all?

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-No, not the Rhug business

-as it is presently.

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-We can still export meat.

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-It depends exactly

-on where the outbreaks occur.

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-We hope

-that there won't be any more.

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-What are your hopes now?

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-They have to stay inside

-until 28 February.

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-We know that.

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-That's the target.

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-We hope it will

-have cleared up by then...

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-..and that everything

-will be back to normal after that.

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-Leading vet Gareth Edwards...

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-..is keeping a close eye

-on the situation.

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-This strain

-doesn't have any unique symptoms.

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-In the cases we have seen,

-the birds got ill very quickly.

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-Some die

-without showing many symptoms.

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-Others have breathing problems.

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-They can also lose their balance.

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-It can affect

-their central nervous system.

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-It's a strain

-that hits hens and turkeys rapidly.

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-With ducks and geese,

-there are sometimes no symptoms...

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-..but they can carry the virus.

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-The Food Standards Agency says...

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-..that the meat or eggs

-don't pose a risk.

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-We need to be alert just in case.

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-Should people be very worried?

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-Not at the moment.

-The risk is quite low.

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-But we must be wary,

-follow the guidelines...

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-..and assess things as we move on.

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-If you're worried about your birds

-or discover dead birds...

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-..contact DEFRA's helpline.

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-It might be a new year...

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-..but the burning issue at Oxford's

-Farming Conference was the same.

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-Brexit.

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-Meinir has more.

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-For 80 years, this conference has

-been held in the university town.

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-The theme this year

-was Thrive or Survive.

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-It's an apt subject

-given the upcoming process...

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-..of the UK leaving the EU.

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-I've been coming here for 15 years.

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-I think there's more uncertainty

-at this year's conference.

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-Yesterday, there was definitely

-an atmosphere in the room.

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-Things are changing so much

-on the political side.

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-We're coming out of Europe...

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-..and there's a mood

-I haven't noticed before.

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-I have mixed feelings

-about this conference.

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-It's a great opportunity to see

-what's going on in the industry.

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-At the start of the year,

-we're trying to discover...

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-..which themes will be

-at the forefront of politics...

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-..and what is likely to happen.

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-Every year, the conference starts

-with a political session.

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-DEFRA Secretary Andrea Leadsom

-was the first to speak.

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-She felt that the EU had held

-farmers back over the years...

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-..but there were few details...

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-..about UK agricultural policy

-outside the EU.

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-Discussions are centred

-around Brexit at the moment.

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-As Andrea Leadsom said,

-the White Paper is there.

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-The direction the country will take

-hasn't been decided...

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-..so it's an opportunity for farmers

-to contribute to the debate.

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-We know that CAP isn't perfect,

-the EU isn't perfect.

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-This is a chance

-to create something better.

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-That's a question

-about specific policy detail...

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-..that we don't have

-at this stage...

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-..but certainly, during this year,

-that is the absolute focus.

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-I admired

-Andrea Leadsom's confidence...

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-..but I felt

-that it was misplaced confidence.

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-I was very disappointed

-when she was asked a question...

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-..about the future

-of upland sheep farmers.

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-She had no response at all.

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-Does she have

-her finger on the pulse...

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-..of the kind of agriculture

-we have in Wales?

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-The strong message that the union

-is trying to send out...

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-..is that the UK should have entry

-to the single market...

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-..tariff-free if possible.

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-The European market is especially

-important to us in Wales...

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-..because so much Welsh lamb

-goes there.

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-We also need people

-coming to work...

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-..not just on farms...

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-..but in the factories

-that keep farmers going.

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-Following Andrea Leadsom's speech,

-Lesley Griffiths joined a panel...

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-..that included ministers

-and other agriculture spokespersons.

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-I very much see that we will

-have a Welsh agricultural policy.

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-However, I absolutely recognize

-that there will need to be...

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-..frameworks in place

-following leaving the EU.

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-I was very pleased...

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-..with the way

-that Lesley Griffiths...

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-..acknowledged the need

-for a Welsh policy, if you like...

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-..within the framework of UK policy.

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-I was pleased to hear her

-speaking so positively...

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-..about establishing Welsh policy.

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-But I would have liked her...

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-..to show more support

-for the Scottish minister.

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-He emphasized the need

-to keep the same budget...

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-..and the first pillar's importance

-to the agricultural industry.

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-It wasn't just politicians

-that took to the stage.

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-There were speakers

-from different fields and countries.

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-I really enjoyed Falcon Coffee's

-presentation this morning.

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-It was interesting to hear how his

-business developed over the years...

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-..the challenges he had faced,

-his experience of the industry...

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-..his understanding of his customers

-and how he interacts with them.

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-It was great to see.

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-One speaker who stirred things up

-was journalist George Monbiot...

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-..who has been critical of both

-the CAP and upland sheep farming.

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-Number two, that farmers being paid

-nine pence in the pound...

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-..for what the produce sells for

-in the supermarket is an outrage.

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-The other panellists

-were Minette Batters from the NFU...

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-..vegetable farmer Guy Poskitt...

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-..and Helen Ghosh, the Director

-General of the National Trust.

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-It's a challenge for me as a farmer.

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-I want to produce food.

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-I know I have to look

-at the landscape around me.

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-But at the end of the day,

-I must make a profit.

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-What George Monbiot

-has been talking about...

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-..doesn't make sense,

-especially in the short term.

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-He was saying

-that farmers should sell water...

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-..but where will we get the money

-to make the farm flourish?

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-With regards

-to what Helen Ghosh had to say...

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-..she said that her vision...

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-..was to achieve

-a prosperous industry.

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-I obviously agreed with that...

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-..but when she talked about

-her seven important elements...

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-..one of the most important

-was public goods.

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-She didn't say a word about food...

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-..during those seven key principles.

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-I'd like to remind people...

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-..that producing food

-is a part of the public goods.

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-Keeping people and their culture

-in the uplands is a part of it.

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-Keeping the language and industry

-is also a part of it.

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-I cannot overemphasize,

-in the context of the industry...

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-..agriculture keeps other industries

-within the agricultural communities.

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-To me, that is the essence

-of public goods.

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-Among the policy discussions,

-there were inspiring stories...

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-..from crop farmer Alison Capper...

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-..and Jack Hamilton, from a family

-of potato and vegetable farmers...

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-..about the importance

-of building a brand...

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-..and developing a business

-with an emphasis on exporting.

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-We heard in the last session...

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-..about people exporting

-and selling their produce...

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-..to the rest of the world.

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-Maybe, as producers,

-we don't think big enough.

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-We think of our own country

-and selling in the local market.

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-Thank goodness

-for the last session.

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-We heard from farmers

-who are succeeding.

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-I have a lot of confidence

-in the farmers around me.

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-Agriculture will be different,

-but it has always changed.

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-Our challenge

-is to find the best things...

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-..and to fight our corner

-in the world that's out there.

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-I'm sure that in ten years,

-the industry will be different.

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-Some will have succeeded,

-some won't have, but that's life.

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-But we must accept

-the fight that's ahead of us.

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-That's it for now.

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-After the break, Alun meets

-the Oinc Oink pig champions.

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-I'll see you in a minute.

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-Welcome back to Ffermio.

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-Pork is the most popular meat

-in the world.

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-More and more people in Wales

-are keeping pigs.

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-Alun has been visiting

-a husband and wife...

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-..who have made

-a successful business...

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-..by producing and processing pork.

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-Huw and Ela Roberts

-and their children...

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-..have farmed Ffridd in Llithfaen

-near Pwllheli since 2007.

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-Although they keep 40 Welsh Black

-cattle and 200 Welsh Mule sheep...

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-..the pigs get the majority

-of their attention these days.

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-We went to the Winter Fair in 2006.

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-That was the first time I heard Huw

-say that he wanted to keep a pig.

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-Right.

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-And from there, I asked which breed

-he would consider.

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-He said either a Welsh Pig,

-or a Black Pig.

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-And I said, as we live in Wales,

-we should go for the Welsh breed.

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-You've created

-a very well-known brand - Oinc Oink.

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-How did you get the name

-and how did the brand develop?

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-My brother in law suggested it

-as a joke.

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-We couldn't think

-of a better name...

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-..so that's how it came to be.

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-Tell me a little bit...

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-..about your recent award

-for the pig enterprise?

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-We saw the application form

-in one of the pig magazines...

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-..and thought

-it would be worth trying for it.

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-We competed in the Pedigree Breeder

-of the Year category.

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-It was a huge success to win in

-London amongst all the people there.

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-We were the only Welsh people there.

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-It was a huge honour for us to win.

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-The judges' comments...

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-..were that the enterprise

-was holistic...

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-..and that the breeding

-and pedigree side of things...

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-..were being combined

-with the marketing.

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-And there's history behind us here.

-This sow is very special.

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-Yes, she is very special.

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-This is Gwynys Model 307.

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-She's the oldest sow we have here.

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-She has been Champion of Champions

-four times.

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-She's the only pig...

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-..to have won the title four times

-in the five years she has competed.

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-She also had the reserve prize

-the other year.

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-We're very proud of her.

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-I think she shows the qualities

-of the Welsh Pig at its best.

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-The kids have had success

-with the pigs.

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-Yes, they've both won pig rearing

-competitions, the young handlers...

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-..in the shows

-we've been to this summer.

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-Is this a sow?

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-Is this a sow?

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-Yes.

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-Tell me about her history.

-That's a different breed.

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-She's a Saddleback.

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-She was covered with a boar

-about three months ago.

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-Was she?

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-And the boar's name was Walter.

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-Walter?!

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-Walter?!

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-Yes.

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-What is the name of your pig?

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-What is the name of your pig?

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-Jean.

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-Jean? Did you choose that name?

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-Yes? Why do you like pigs then?

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-Because I like having sausages.

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-Sausages! Well, that's what

-they are, in the end, isn't it?!

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-Yes, yes.

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-And do you like living on a farm?

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-Is it nice living on a farm?

-Why is it nice living on a farm?

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-Because of the animals.

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-Because of the animals?

-Yes, I'm sure.

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-When the pigs have been fattened,

-they're taken to Corwen abattoir...

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-..and are returned to the farm to be

-processed.

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-Here we are in the meat house.

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-It's very tidy.

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-You have everything you need

-to process the animal.

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-Yes, we fetch the whole carcass

-from Corwen...

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-..and a butcher comes here

-to help us to cut the pig up.

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-Then the meat is packaged and

-prepared for the markets...

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-..and all the sausages

-are made here.

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-You've also had to be a butcher,

-to all extents and purposes.

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-I've been on a course to learn

-some skills to butcher a pig...

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-..and also to make the sausages.

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-And you've had a lot of success

-as a cook in the Winter Fair.

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-It was a great show for us

-this year in the Winter Fair.

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-We entered

-quite a lot of the produce there.

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-We had a first and a second

-in the sausages class.

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-We had a first

-in the pork burgers...

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-..and were very successful

-with the sausage rolls.

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-They got 99 out of 100.

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-Are you planning

-to grow the business...

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-..or are you happy being able

-to control things as you are?

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-We're hopeless at planning!

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-There was no plan

-from the first day a pig came here.

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-We're trying to do it

-so that it supports the family.

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-When we need it,

-we have staff who help part-time...

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-..especially

-with the hog roast business.

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-We have relatives and friends

-who come in at such times.

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-Is that one of the things

-that brings you the most profit?

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-Yes, the pig roasting does.

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-That side has grown, and I hope

-that for the sake of the business...

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-..that we'll see

-a financial improvement.

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-Where are your customers?

-Are they nearby or far away?

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-Everyone's quite local.

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-We started by supplying SPAR

-in Pwllheli.

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-From there, it has grown

-to supplying local butchers.

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-We go to the market in Porthmadog

-on the last Saturday of each month.

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-That has turned out

-to be a very good market for us.

0:20:530:20:56

-We have many regular customers

-who come back from month to month.

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-We're very lucky that our customers

-keep coming back each month.

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-Although the pig business is going

-from strength to strength...

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-..Huw and Ela are very fond of

-Welsh Mules and their Welsh Blacks.

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-The sheep and the cattle

-were here before the pigs.

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-The Welsh Black cattle

-suit us perfectly.

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-There are many bogs on the farm

-and they graze those parts...

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-..and the sheep graze

-the best fields on the farm.

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-I'm speaking with you, Huw,

-as if you own the cattle.

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-Do you get on well together

-as you look after things?

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-I'd better say that we do,

-in front of the camera!

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-Huw concentrates more

-on the sheep and cattle.

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-As we've started processing

-the pork meat on the farm...

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-..a large part of my time

-goes on selling the meat.

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-But when he needs a hand,

-I try my best to help.

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-During the lambing season,

-I love being out amongst them.

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-And the next generation have a huge

-interest in your way of farming.

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-Yes, they love it.

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-They're out with us

-every chance they get.

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-In the wind, rain, the sun -

-all weather!

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-They love being amongst the stock.

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-From the hens, to the bulls,

-they're very happy.

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-That's it for this week.

-Thank you for your company.

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-I'll see you

-at the same time next week.

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-Goodbye.

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