Mon, 22 May 2017 Ffermio

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-The clock is ticking on Brexit.

-There are more questions

-than answers right now.

-It will be one

-of the main topics of discussion...

-..at the 2017 NSA sheep show.

-Also tonight, Meinir discovers more

-about grants for farm businesses...

-..and Daloni's in Llanrwst

-where three brothers...

-..have adapted a campervan

-to add value to the farm's stock.

-With all the forms for the

-Basic Payment Scheme completed...

-..farmers can lift their heads,

-look around...

-..and see what the future has

-to offer for the sheep industry.

-The event is being held on

-Llwyn Bedw farm, Talybont-on-Usk...

-..in the Brecon Beacons.

-This hill farm is owned

-by the Williams family.

-They have a flock of 3,500 sheep.

-How much of a compliment is it

-for you to be hosting it?

-It's not everyday

-you get the chance.

-We were, for want of a better word,

-coerced into doing it.

-By Glasnant Morgan.

-We were really volunteered for it.

-We were asked and we sat down as

-a family and I asked the question...

-..are we all behind holding

-the event and we all agreed.

-It brings a lot into the community.

-It puts a lot of spotlight

-on the Talybont type of sheep.

-In my opinion,

-they're one of the best in Wales.

-It's very good to highlight

-the sheep industry...

-..and what we have got to offer.

-One of the things

-in your information pack...

-..is that you've got

-the best shepherd in the valley.

-Three generations we're looking at,

-Lisa, Luke and yourself.

-What does it mean to be the best

-shepherdess? Why are you so special?

-He's the one to ask.

-He's the one to ask.

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-She moves 2,000 sheep on her own.

-She drives them 13 miles.

-Anybody who'd like to go up

-and have a little walk with her...

-..they're welcome.

-The Chairman of the NSA in Wales

-is Llew Thomas.

-How did you set the agenda?

-There are some interesting points

-of discussion.

-To be honest, as it stands now,

-we're in the middle of Brexit.

-What will happen in the future?

-A lot of things will change...

-..and we have to be ready

-for the changes.

-We have to decide the best course

-of action for different farms.

-This is an opportunity to discuss

-some of the facts we already know.

-No-one knows the ultimate answer...

-..but we'll have to go for it

-and keep going.

-What are your members telling you?

-You're their link to the government

-and their policies.

-They know we want

-the single market...

-..and we want as much access

-to Europe as we can get.

-Those are the important elements.

-The subsidies are also important.

-We need to make sure that subsidy

-money continues to come our way.

-As you know, it doesn't stay

-in farmers' hands very long.

-Sheep farmers will face many

-challenges over the next few years.

-In seminars held today, many

-interesting discussions took place.

-If there's a deal to be done,

-it's got to benefit both sides.

-The question is which sectors...

-An interesting panel of speakers

-discussing Brexit.

-Can you sum up the discussions

-for us?

-This was a great opportunity for

-the NSA to gather people together...

-..and ask for their requirements

-in a post-Brexit world.

-Look at the support

-for the industry...

-..look at trade possibilities

-and standards.

-It was a long list and they're

-all up for discussion right now.

-I spoke about trade

-as it stands now.

-More than anything, how to get trade

-from different countries...

-..including the Export Health

-certificates and types of trade.

-That will be a big challenge.

-I don't think people fully realise

-how much time this will all take.

-In two years, it is likely

-that we'll have to leave.

-Is that enough time

-to make plans for trade...

-..when we're talking about

-40% of our produce?

-Can we find a home for it

-in such a short space of time?

-I don't think it's possible

-in that timescale...

-..to find a market

-of the same standard.

-The European market

-is on our doorstep.

-They pay for our produce,

-which is good.

-There are no Customs restrictions.

-Tell me about some of the work

-you're doing with America.

-That offers a huge potential.

-It's been going on for eight years.

-Right now, the responsibility

-is on the American side.

-It's up to them

-if they want to accept.

-It all takes time.

-It's one thing

-to get access to a market.

-It needs to be developed

-into a successful market...

-..and that takes many years.

-In terms of trade agreements...

-..historically,

-it takes seven years...

-..for Europe to agree

-on trade agreements.

-Efficiency

-was another talking point.

-Innovis made an announcement

-about a genomic scheme.

-We've completed a large project.

-It's taken five years and 1.4m

-to get it to this position.

-We can check the animal's DNA

-to determine its characteristics.

-At the moment, we're look at the

-carcass for the meat, its quality...

-..and where the meat is

-on the carcass.

-We have further developments

-on other characteristics.

-Efficiency and how lambs live.

-They're also in the system.

-This is a part of global research.

-We're keeping up

-with the rest of the world.

-The industry

-is constantly developing.

-If you visit

-New Zealand and Australia...

-..they already have

-the genomic tools.

-What we're offering now

-with our breeds...

-..is at the same position as theirs.

-They're always going to try

-and be a step ahead of us.

-We can give this to our famers

-to keep up or even overtake them.

-We'll leave the show

-for the time being.

-The window has opened

-for farm business grants.

-Recently, Farming Connect

-organised roadshows.

-Meinir visited one roadshow

-in Ysgol Bro Teifi.

-The grant

-is between 3,000 and 12,000.

-The first window is open.

-Farmers can invest

-in up to 70 items...

-..linked to animal welfare,

-genetics and performance...

-..crop control, energy efficiency,

-resource efficiency and technology.

-Tonight's event

-is part of a roadshow....

-..organised by Farming Connect under

-the title Farming For The Future.

-We're now well aware

-of the Brexit referendum result.

-The aim of tonight

-is to discuss changes with farmers.

-Tonight is a chance to tell farmers

-how much help is available...

-..as they face the future.

-There are 11 different categories.

-The people who attend

-these events...

-..they can access

-any one of these categories.

-In the past,

-you needed a business plan.

-That is no longer true for the

-people who've attended the meetings.

-Here's Lesley Griffiths...

-..Cabinet Secretary

-for Environment and Rural Affairs.

-One of our programmes

-for Government commitments...

-..was to introduce

-a small grant scheme.

-It was something they wanted

-and asked us to look at.

-We brought forward the Farm Business

-Grant which I launched in January...

-..40m over four years.

-It's an insecure time for farming

-with Brexit.

-We want to make sure our farmers

-are resilient and sustainable.

-To apply for the grant, they need

-7,500 in the bank ready to spend.

-Is this something that farmers

-can justify spending...

-..in the current financial climate?

-We've done it in conjunction with

-farmers and the agricultural sector.

-I appreciate they're putting

-their money forward.

-It's a simple process...

-..and I'm looking forward

-to receiving the applications.

-After looking at the product list...

-..animal health and welfare

-is high on your priority list.

-Why isn't there

-animal housing on the list?

-It's something we can look at.

-We will look at that list

-over the four years.

-We might need to change things.

-I'm happy to look at it

-and review it.

-Over 400 farmers attended

-the meeting in Ysgol Bro Teifi.

-What were the general impressions?

-I think it's a good way to prepare

-farmers and farms for the future.

-We don't know what lies ahead of us

-in three to four years.

-I think we must emphasise

-the efficiency of our businesses.

-Anything we can do

-to promote and improve that...

-..I think we have

-to grab the opportunity...

-..and benefit from this scheme.

-It's 40% of the cost.

-If you're receiving a grant

-of 12,000...

-..you're investing 30,000.

-If you have to borrow that money

-in the first place...

-..it's a big responsibility

-for the farmer.

-It's been a successful evening.

-The speakers have given us

-their views...

-..and illustrated

-how we can receive these grants.

-You do have to spend money

-before you receive the grant.

-That will be a headache

-for a lot of farmers.

-I don't feel very confident,

-about farming in general.

-The business of

-leaving Europe through Brexit...

-..it's a complete mess.

-It's the worst thing

-that's happened to us as farmers.

-I'm shocked to discover

-that so many farmers voted to leave.

-It is such a shock.

-"Look at the money we paid

-to stay in Europe," they say.

-Wow, how much money

-are we paying to get out?

-60bn. It's gone up to 100bn now.

-Goodness me. As farmers, we're in a

-hole and we'll never get out of it.

-It's a sad thing to say

-but it's true.

-We're facing years of hardships

-and problems in agriculture.

-Is it difficult to apply and get the

-money together? Is it complicated?

-No, not at all.

-As a young farmer,

-I'm glad everything is done on line.

-Applying looks easy and it's easy

-to know what to choose.

-Everyone knows

-what their business needs.

-If you want more information,

-contact the Welsh Government.

-That's it for Part 1.

-After the break,

-Daloni discovers more...

-..about a new venture

-in North Wales.

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-Welcome back.

-Having a new and exciting idea

-helps promote farmers' produce.

-Daloni has been to find out

-how a campervan from South Africa...

-..and local meat has changed

-the lives of brothers in Llanrwst.

-Here is one

-of the '70s most iconic vehicles...

-..the Volkswagen T2 Bay.

-People on their holidays or

-rock'n'roll bands would drive these.

-There is now a new use

-for the old icon.

-Wil and Huw Roberts,

-Ty Gwyn Farm, Llanrwst...

-..have started a new venture

-selling burgers from a campervan.

-This is the Burger Bay.

-The lamb comes

-from their own farm...

-..where they keep

-500 Texel Mule ewes.

-The beef comes from nearby farms.

-Where did this van come from

-and why is it here?

-I bought it from South Africa

-on eBay.

-I wanted something different to

-generate extra income on the farm.

-I like the Volkswagens.

-I used to attend numerous shows.

-This gave me an excuse to go

-and make money at the same time.

-You hadn't seen it.

-I'd seen some photos on eBay.

-And went for it.

-And went for it.

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-On impulse.

-What happened next?

-I found a company to adapt it,

-a company in Ruthin.

-I just went from there.

-Was there a demand in the market

-for something like this?

-Because I used to go

-to all the shows...

-..some of the food

-was of a poor quality.

-Since we had

-quality produce locally...

-..I decided we could sell it

-from the van at the shows!

-Who helps you?

-All the family help out,

-my brother, sister...

-..Mam and Dad pitch in sometimes.

-It's a bit of a squeeze

-but it's fine.

-The brothers were inspired

-to start the business...

-..because of the low quality food...

-..they were served

-in shows and events.

-Little brother Iwan is in charge

-of the recipes.

-He's a butcher with TJ Parry Jones

-& Daughters in Trefriw.

-What's the secret?

-A lot of mint, a lot of mint,

-and the best cuts of lamb.

-We use a lot of leg

-and shoulder cuts.

-That provides the meat

-with lots of juicy flavours.

-The best meat?

-The best meat?

-

-Yes, yes.

-We try and use the whole lamb.

-The lamb comes from Ty Gwyn.

-I take all the bones out so

-I know precisely what goes into it.

-We don't sell lamb chops -

-we have those for our supper!

-Have you had a good response

-to the recipes so far?

-Yes, yes.

-A lot of people have said

-they're lovely.

-We play around with the recipe

-to improve it.

-So far, so good with the burgers.

-How does it feel

-knowing that your recipe...

-..is eaten across the country?

-It's a lovely feeling -

-reviews are left on Facebook.

-Everyone praises the burgers.

-I'm glad to hear

-that everyone enjoys them.

-I've done this for six years

-and I'd like to continue.

-It's all been done by hand.

-Yes, yes.

-I've got it down to a fine art.

-I can make burgers

-in no time at all.

-Where does the meat come from?

-We try and use as much local meat

-as we can.

-If we can't, we go

-to the abattoir in Llanrwst...

-..which also supplies local meat.

-Do you enjoy it?

-Yes, I enjoy it.

-The work is difficult sometimes.

-It's worth it, at the end of the

-day, when people enjoy the produce.

-The produce is high quality...

-..but how has Huw coped

-with cooking in the campervan?

-Here we are, the van.

-Here it is.

-This is luxury.

-Even when it's raining, oh! Nice.

-The colour, everything about it.

-It stands out.

-It's very neat and tidy inside,

-everything in its place.

-It's a bit tight

-with two of us here.

-What's what in the van?

-This is the flame grill.

-We can cook 20 burgers

-at any one time.

-They don't take long to cook,

-it produces such a high temperature.

-A minute or two, no more.

-It's a simple idea.

-This for cooking,

-we prepare the rolls out the back...

-Are the rolls local?

-The rolls come from Tandderwen

-in Betws-y-Coed.

-A local bakery.

-A local bakery.

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-Yes, in Betws-y-Coed.

-We pass those up and someone will

-be cooking with Wil, my brother.

-They put the trays and buns here.

-Wil will serve the burgers

-on the rolls.

-There's a formal system.

-Cook the meat, prepare the bread

-and serve the food.

-It's very simple...

-..but a lot of work

-goes in beforehand.

-I thought it would be easy to cook

-a burger and place it in a bun...

-..but a lot of work

-goes into the process.

-Do you enjoy it, Huw?

-I love it, as does Wil.

-We visit shows across Britain

-and we meet people from all around.

-Is the diary full over the summer,

-Wil?

-Until the end of September.

-Where are you going?

-Where are you going?

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-Conwy next Saturday...

-..Surf Snowdonia on Sunday...

-..an open day for the police

-the following weekend.

-Interesting.

-Honest answer, Huw.

-What's best on a day like today?

-Selling burgers or sheep farming?

-On a day like today,

-selling burgers.

-The campervan is cool.

-It's a sight to behold.

-The produce is high quality

-but how does it taste?

-Can I?

-Can I?

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-Fire away.

-Come on, eat as if you were at home!

-Very nice. Good luck to you.

-Thank you.

-Back at the show,

-there are competitions...

-..for ewe hoggs and yearling ewes.

-Winning the upland class,

-the Morgan family...

-..Nantgwynne, Llanddeusant.

-In the continental class,

-Ann Owen, Fferm y Banc, Tregaron.

-Another important competition

-is the young shepherd.

-There were 12 competitors.

-Joint under-21 winners

-were Tomos Owen and Dafydd Davies.

-Winning the overall competition

-was Ben Hanmer.

-It means a lot after spending

-the last four years...

-..in Aberystwyth University.

-I've put everything I've learnt

-to some practical use now.

-It's worked today, definitely.

-If I can turn to you,

-Tomos and Dafydd...

-..you were joint winners

-in the U-21 class.

-How did it go for you? Were some

-tasks more difficult than others?

-I fared better

-in the paperwork than the others.

-There's some brainpower there.

-I don't know,

-it was more down to luck.

-I didn't do so well

-in the motorbike task.

-How about you?

-What's your speciality, Tomos?

-I was better with the motorbike

-but not so well with the paperwork.

-If you join forces,

-you have a very bright future!

-Congratulations to all three of you

-for being so successful.

-Thousands have attended

-the show today.

-What are people's impressions

-of the day?

-I don't like missing this event.

-We do so much

-with the sheep industry...

-..from rearing lambs

-all the way through to the wool.

-It's difficult for a year to go by

-without us being here.

-All the different breeds,

-it's quite incredible.

-There's so much choice if you're

-trying to start your own flock.

-A great day.

-I've seen lots of new ideas.

-There are different breeds

-and stalls linked to the industry.

-I really enjoyed myself.

-A lot of discussions on Brexit

-but no-one knows what will happen.

-Are you confident looking ahead?

-You have to be. I believe

-it's half-full, not half-empty.

-It's happened, let's get on with it.

-When I visit this show,

-I really enjoy myself.

-Sheep are my speciality.

-It's been wet but as sheep farmers,

-we're used to being wet!

-That's all for this week.

-It's been a good day of discussing

-and looking to the future.

-I hope you can join us again

-next week.

-Until then, thank you

-for your company and cheerio.

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