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WOMAN COUGHS | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Laura? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
I only want to make you better. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Oh, sweetheart. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
Well, in that case, you have to examine me and make a diagnosis. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
What's a diagnosis? | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
Well, that's when the doctor tells you what's wrong with you. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
And when you've made your diagnosis, you have to write it down. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
-I'll get some paper. -Okey-doke. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
Are you sure you'll be all right? I'll literally be a couple of hours. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Yes, I'm going to be fine. You go. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
So, is this a permanent position? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Agency. Cover work's all there is. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
State sector's not hiring and private's private. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
Well, it's a good thing you're trying to get a job up here. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
And things are better with Sally. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Just being close to Chloe is all that matters, you know. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
Yeah, I'm happy for you, love. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Yeah. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:28 | |
Are you sure you're going to be OK, Mum? | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
I should be looking after you really. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
Patrick, I'm going to be fine. Will you please just go to your interview. Go on! | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
It's a massive help though with Sally working late, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
-I should be looking after Chloe... -Go! | 0:01:40 | 0:01:41 | |
-Good luck. -I've got my diagnosis paper! | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Ooh! Excellent. In that case we'd better get started. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
-Now, you are going to be a good girl for Nardie, aren't you? -I'm always good girl. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
I have been with the congregation nearly a year now. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
Oh, we miss you at our church. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Oh. Do not get me wrong, I welcome the company of the parishioners, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
especially yours, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
but I was still searching. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Not for faith? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
Leadership. I felt I needed guidance. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
And have you found that? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:13 | |
Oh! The pastor is young but wise and strong in spirit. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
LAURA COUGHS | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
I can see that it has made you happy. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
I haven't been so happy in such a long while. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I am helping with the church lunch, today. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
People come before the afternoon service. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
"O taste and see that the Lord is good." | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
"And blessed is the man that trusteth in him." | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
I have always been impressed with your knowledge of the Psalms. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
It's so nice to bump into you. You are looking so well. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
When was the last time that we had a day off together? | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
-HE MUMBLES -Don't know. We had some time. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
A day off with nothing to do. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
Just enjoy each other's company. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Doing whatever we want... | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
..for however long that we want. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Gosh, so you're the boss? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Yes, in Julia's absence, Heston and I shall be running things together. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
You know she'll be watching the CCTV on her laptop, don't you? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
She can't do that. Can she? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
I'm just checking. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Nardie, I think I'm going to have to put a bandage on your head. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Oh, I think my head's all right, thank you, darling. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
-But that's my diagnosis. -Oh. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
Oh, is it? Right. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
Well, in that case, do you know where Mummy keeps her first aid kit? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
In the kitchen. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
OK. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-CHLOE SCREAMS -< Nardie! | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
-Chloe!? -Nardie! | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Chloe. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
Nardie! | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
Chloe! Chloe. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
CHLOE SOBS | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Oh, sweetheart. Oh, my darling girl! | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
All right. Come on, over to the sink. There's a good girl. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
There we are. Oh! Come on, I want you to put that under there. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
-CHLOE CRIES -Just leave that there for a minute. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
How did you do that? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
That. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
What? Oh, for heaven's sake! | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
It's not Mummy's fault! | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
No. Oh, no. I didn't mean it was Mummy's fault, sweetheart. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
No... Come here, come here. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
Just going to wrap that round, that's going to be sore. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
-Sorry, I know... -CHLOE SOBS | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
..I know. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
There we are. Good girl. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Hold that at the bottom tight for me. All right? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Oh, you're so brave. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
Come on, we're going to take that poor little finger to the hospital and get it looked at, OK? | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
Ah. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
KNOCK AT DOOR | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I need to talk to you about a friend... | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Social advice? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
..who is also a patient. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-If it's a medical problem... -It is Laura Masakela. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
Have you seen her recently? | 0:05:40 | 0:05:41 | |
I saw her this morning. She's not looking very well. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
She has not been in for an appointment for nearly a year | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
-and for such a seriousness illness... -Have you been checking her records? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
-I just wanted to see... -It's not for personal use, you know that. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
You know that I would not disclose patient information with anyone. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
But she has HIV. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
And I have seen people where HIV has become... | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
..full blown. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
She needs our help. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
We've been writing to her, she hasn't replied. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
If only we could convince her. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
We can't force her to come in. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
But, if you do happen to see her again, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
it might be a good idea to suggest that she does. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
-Nardie? -Mm? -My finger really hurts. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:40 | |
Oh, sweetheart. I know, I'm so sorry. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
She said half an hour, didn't she? That was an hour ago! | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
The triage system is backed up. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
Triage? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
That's when they decide who is hurt the most so they can go first. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
Huh, triage! Inefficiency more like, plain and simple. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
Can't they do anything about it? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Well, somebody should, sweetheart, yes. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
RADIO PLAYS | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
Anything interesting? | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Sorry, what? | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
Anything interesting in the paper? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Nah. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Well, then, there's no need to keep reading it then? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Just relaxing. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
By reading about non-events? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
Normally, I'd be stitching a drunk shoplifter | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
or looking after Daniel's patients. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
But here I am, with the showbiz news and my cup of tea. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
We've wasted a whole morning. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
We're off work. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
Doesn't mean we can't do something constructive. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
-Like what, build the QE2 out of matchsticks? -I don't know! Something practical. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
SHE CLATTERS CUTLERY | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
HE RUSTLES NEWSPAPER | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
" 'I will restore health unto thee and heal thee of thy wounds.' | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
"So sayeth the Lord." | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Yes, I accept that you're restructuring, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
but the system should be in place | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
to ensure that patients are seen promptly. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
It isn't rocket science, is it? It's simply down to good management. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
-Nardie's telling them off. -SHE GIGGLES | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
I... I see you have a healing mission? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
Isn't every church a healing one? | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
Well, we pray for our sick. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
We believe that prayer is the major part of healing. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
That's certainly been my experience, here and in other countries. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
You have ministered abroad? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
I was with a church in Atlanta. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Before that, I spent some time in Nigeria. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
The friend who told me about your church is from Ghana. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Who's that? | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
Laura. Laura Masakela. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Laura is a valued member of our congregation. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
As she was with us. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Were you particular friends with Laura? | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
I have not seen her in a while. Not until this morning. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
In truth, I came because I was a little concerned about her. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
Concerned in what way? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
When I saw her this morning, I thought... | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Laura. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
There's a friend to see you. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Hello again. | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
TV BLARES | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
What you doing? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
There's a film about to start. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Is it important? | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
It's Tiger Bay. It's like Citizen Kane for Welsh people. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Well, can you tape it? I could do with a hand. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
It's only on for an hour and a half. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I've spent the last two hours cleaning and scrubbing for your benefit, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
cos you like the place spotless! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
All right. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
OK, so... First, we've got... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
-You've got a list? -Yeah. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
-You've got a list of things you want me to do? -It's not much. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
There's a skirting board in the bedroom, then there's the garden. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Aw, garden. (No...) | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Well, there is an alternative. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
What's that? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:41 | |
We could have a nice, romantic day out. Completely spontaneous. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
A nice long walk in the countryside, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
pop into the pub for a spot of lunch. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Cream tea. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Then, we can finish the day, dinner at the new Italian. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
Give me the list. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
What do you want me to do first, skirting board or garden? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Garden. Please. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Why are you concerned about me? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
It's just this morning, when... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
I'm sorry, if you do not mind, I would like to speak to Laura alone. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
There is nothing I cannot discuss in front of Helen. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
It is a personal matter. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
There is nothing about me that Helen doesn't already know. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
We have not seen you at the surgery in nearly a year. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
I thought you knew Laura from your church? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
I do. I am also the receptionist at her health centre. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Have they sent you to see Laura? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
No. No, I have come of my own accord. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
But with what information? | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
I just... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Honestly, three hours for two stitches. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
They can't blame that on cuts. Ooh, put your coat on, sweetheart. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Isn't that what stitches are for? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
Not those kind of cuts. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
No, it means they haven't got enough money to pay the people they need, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
so they are going to pay one person to do two jobs. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
It's called a primary care liaison officer. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Sounds important. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:25 | |
Sounds like one person doing two jobs to me. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Anyway, they haven't found anybody, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
which is why we've been waiting here all morning. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Why haven't they found anybody? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Not that simple, you see, sweetheart cos they've got to find someone | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
who's good with doctors, good with nurses and money | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and all those awkward people who run health authorities. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Isn't that what you do? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
So you've taken knowledge of Laura's condition from her records? | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
I did consult. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
-That's a breach of confidentiality. -I did not disclose the information... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
It still isn't right. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
I did not think you were looking well. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
But you didn't know Laura's HIV status, before you looked. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
From my experience... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Experience as a doctor, or as a doctor's receptionist? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
Experience of people... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
I do have HIV. But it does not have me. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
I am full in life and in spirit. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
You have not seen the doctor in nearly a year. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
I do not need a doctor, when I have the Lord. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
But Laura, your medication. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Laura's healing comes from faith. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Her balm and medicine is prayer. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
# Think of me in the depths of your despair | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
# Making a home down there | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
# As mine sure won't be shared | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
# The scars of your love... # | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
How can you say that prayer is not enough? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-But in these circumstances. -What circumstances? | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
With such a serious illness! | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
There is not a sickness that God cannot cure. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
My dear, as yet there is no cure for your illness. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
But medicines have come so far. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
If you deny that God can heal, then you cannot truly believe. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
There is no question in my belief. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
Laura needs medication. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
I took that medication for years. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
But when I stopped, when the voice of faith told me to stop, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
I never felt so well. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
But what if it is NOT the voice of faith? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
-What if it is the voice of...? -I think you should leave. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
-But she needs... -You have brought Laura a message of doubt. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
She has been tested by the Lord. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
And her response in faith is an example to us all. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
Nardie? | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
Yes, sweetie? | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
I've finished my soup. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
Er... Right, OK. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Yoghurt or banana? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Can I have both, please? | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Well, as I'm not here that often, I... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
We've received a complaint. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Is it from the church? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Laura Masakela. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
But you told me next time I saw her, I should tell her to come in. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I suggested that. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
I did not instruct you to go and find her immediately. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I was concerned. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
That may be, but it was hardly done with discretion. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
You especially should not have told her that you knew about her HIV status from the records. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
-I said I did not disclose it to anyone. -It still looks like you're being free with patient information. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
You know that is far from the case. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
So, is Laura coming in to see you? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
No. I wasn't speaking to her directly. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Then who were you speaking to? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
Helen Johnson, the pastor. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
And did she tell you she has asked Laura to stop taking her medication? | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
What? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
She has convinced her that... | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
That HIV can be treated with prayer alone. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
Oh, please tell me you are joking? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
You know I would not joke about such things. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
-We have to take action. -We can't. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
But her health... Her life is at risk. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
If she's chosen to stop retrovirals, that's her decision. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
She says it is a voice of faith, but it's the voice of the pastor's! | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
We can't say that, let alone prove it. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
So what are we supposed to do, just stand by and do nothing? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
Morally, maybe not. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:39 | |
But we subscribe to a standard of ethics. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
And do they say we should just watch somebody die? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
They say that the final decision rests with the patient. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
And we have to respect that. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
Looking for some peace? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
Oh, that would be welcome. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
What would you do, if you knew someone was terribly ill | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
and that you could do something to help them? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
I seem to remember that's why I became a doctor. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
What if you are not a doctor? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
I would hope I could do something. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Someone you know? | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
They have HIV. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
Are they receiving treatment? | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
They have been persuaded not to take their medication. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
By whom? | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
By someone who has convinced them they can be made better with prayer. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Prayer can help. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I know it can help. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
But it can't cure. Not on its own. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I wish I could say with conviction that I think you are wrong. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
Perhaps you need absolute faith for that to be true. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Perhaps my friend has a truer faith than mine. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Wasn't St Luke a doctor? | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
So they say. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Was prayer all he had to prescribe? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
I went on a retreat once. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
It was a mixture of faiths, but there was a retired vicar. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
You know how some people exude spirituality, he exuded humanity. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
He told us what he said was a modern parable. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
A climber, who was deeply religious | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
broke his leg on the top of a mountain. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
A helicopter came and he waved it away saying, | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
"Don't worry, God will help me." | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
A few hours later, another helicopter came. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Again, he waved it away, "Don't worry, God will help me." | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
A third helicopter came. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
Again, he waved it away, "God will help me." | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
And he died. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
So, he found himself in heaven standing before God... | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
And he said, "God, why didn't you help me?" | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
And God said, "What do you mean? I sent you three helicopters." | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
I have asked if I can give you a testament of my faith. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
That story was given to me by someone who might not share our... | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
Well, MY beliefs, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
but someone who is good and kind. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
A colleague and a friend. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
And also a doctor. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
So... | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
I would like to talk about my belief in a healing God. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
A God, for whom in sickness, we appeal in prayer. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
But who also works through his appointed healers. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
His nurses and his doctors. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
God heals and the physician takes the thanks. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
And so often, there is no thanks. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
But you don't deny that it is God who heals? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
No. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
But, unlike the climber on the mountain top, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
I also recognise that his healing comes in human form. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
I see it every day in my colleagues. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Yes, they have their frailties, as we all do, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
but I see the care they give and the love they give. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:45 | |
I see their knowledge, skill and compassion. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
And in their compassion and their care, I see my God. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:57 | |
But you deny that God can heal through prayer? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
Pray still. But also look to his healers. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:06 | |
And I would urge you most strongly to ignore those | 0:21:06 | 0:21:10 | |
who would counsel you otherwise. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Right, I've fixed the skirting board in the bedroom, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
fixed the light under the stairs, trimmed the bush, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
glued back the beading and fixed the banister | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
and I put a washer in the tap over there. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Thank you. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
Now we can really relax. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
I want to get a wash first. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Oh, I've put out three flannels, a new shower gel. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I've ironed your pyjamas and your slippers are by the bed. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Relax, I'm joking! | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
THEY MOCK LAUGH | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
I did not think I had any choice. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I asked you not to take any action. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
My conscience would not allow me to do otherwise. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Did you think about the ramifications? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I thought about how I would feel when I heard about that woman's death! | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
If you were in a pub and you saw a drunk man take out his car keys, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
what would you do? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
It's not the same. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
And you heard that same man had caused a fatal car accident? | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-It's not the same. -Could you live with your conscience? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
That's a private matter. Not one that'd bring the surgery into disrepute. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
You think that's what I have done? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
I know you THINK you were acting for the best. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
I was acting because the pastor told Laura to stop her medication. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
She did not tell me. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
It was my decision and she followed my example. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Your example? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
We share the same illness. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Do you really have to go now, Patrick? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Want to get going before the traffic gets too heavy. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
Stay for dinner. Traffic's always lighter after seven. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
-All right, what's for dinner? -Daddy likes Chinese. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
He does? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:50 | |
A test of faith? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
Mm-hm. You are not a believer? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
-It's not a question of belief. -It's very much about belief. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
It's about treatment and it's available. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
It made me sick. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
It's a question of combinations, finding the right balance. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
I found the right balance in my faith. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
I think you are wrong. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
I have seen miracles. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
Where? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
At congregation of the faithful. The cured have stepped forward. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
There is no cure. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
Blood tests have shown them to be cured. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
There is no cure. We wish there was. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I know what I have seen. I know what I feel. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
And I feel well. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
The lesions on your face look like Kaposi's sarcoma, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
which is often an indication that HIV has developed into full-blown AIDS. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
I do not believe you. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
Please. Please believe him! | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
"Put not your trust in princes, nor the son of man, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
"in whom there is no help." | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
-We're offering all the help we can. -I have all the help I need. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
What about Helen? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
I came because you wrongly accused her. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
When I should have been accusing you? | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
It is not I who needs to question my faith. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
Helen, the pastor is... isn't one of our patients. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
I know. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
What I'm saying is that it wouldn't be a problem if... | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
someone wanted to offer her some help. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Isn't it great that we can just sit here | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
without feeling the need to say anything? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Hm. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:24 | |
Actually, maybe we shouldn't just sit around. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
No? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
No, we should do something. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
It's gone six and we haven't had dinner. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
No, I don't mean now. I mean, something new, like a new hobby, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
or a new course. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
Well, I already feel personally developed. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Let's see what's on offer. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
I feel like...learning a new skill. What do you reckon? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
"I will trust and not be afraid - for the Lord is my strength." | 0:25:11 | 0:25:19 | |
Jujitsu? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
There's Italian. We've always wanted to go to Italy. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Zany Zumba! | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
Yeah, sounds like a short cut to the Crazy Chiropractor! | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
-TV BLARES -Oh, look, this is good. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
What is it? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
Loggers from Alaska. Crazy guys with chain saws. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
I didn't release that the car business was so complicated. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Dodgy, you mean? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
What do you mean, dodgy? | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
Men in camel coats overcharging. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
I'm sure Martin is very ethical. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
He's still a bit of a Swiss Toni. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Who? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
HE MIMICS SMOOTH ACCENT Selling cars is like making love to a beautiful woman. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Are you saying Martin's a wide boy? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
-Well, you've got to admit, he's... -No! | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
He's one of the most compassionate, interesting men I've met for... | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
Well, a very long time. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
He's building his dream house in North Wales. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
Asked me to move in with him. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
You going to go? | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
It's not very far from here actually, just across the border. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
That would mean leaving everything behind in Letherbridge. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
Your house, The Mill. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:42 | |
That'd be a huge change. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:45 | |
Yes, it would. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:52 | |
Morning, old girl. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
Happy birthday. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
I am going to miss you. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Thank you. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
Ooh! Go on, get out of here! | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
The glamour of it all(!) | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
Well, you're in the country now, my girl, you'd better get used to it. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Come and see the house. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
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