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What are you looking at? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
Have you got a problem? | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Eh, eh! When will you be back? | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
As soon as my session's finished. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Mill Health Centre, how may I help you? Yes, Dr Tyler. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
I will look up his... | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
Dr Carmickey. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
-Right, the number is 0-7-7-0... -Doctor Carm...! | 0:01:26 | 0:01:31 | |
I am on the phone. Just give me a second. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
0-7-7-0-0 9-0-0-8-6-1. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:41 | |
Mh-mm. And his name is Gary Webster. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Did you get that, Dr Tyler? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Good. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
You have an appointment with Dr Carmichael? | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Yeah. Ten. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-That is in 15 minutes. -Can't she see me now? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-This gentleman is before you. -Can't I go before him? | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Absolutely not. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
-What is your name? -Jade Jackman. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Look, you don't mind if I go first, do you? | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
Mrs Jackman... | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
Miss. It's miss. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
No, you cannot go first. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Now sit. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
MOBILE PHONE RINGS | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
-Hello? -Hi, Mr Webster? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Yeah? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
It's Dr Tyler from the Mill Health Centre. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
I've got an appointment to see your parents at their home, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
but nobody's answering. Do you know anything, have they spoken to you? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
'No. I haven't heard anything.' | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
With my dad in his condition, they don't get out much. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
If they do, I usually drive them. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
Well, it's just I can hear music playing inside the house. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
-Do you have keys? -Do you think something's happened? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
I don't want to worry you, I'm sure it's nothing, but at their age, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
I'd rather make sure everything is OK. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Yeah, um...I'm coming. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
You going to lecture me? | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
I'm a doctor not a lecturer. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
Why is it doctors and posh people | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
always think they can tell you what you should be doing | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
and how you should be behaving? | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Talk to the hand? How retro. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
What? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
So, this appointment is to keep up with your asthma. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
How's it been going? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
The same. I didn't even want to come. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
Nobody made you, but, hey, you're here now. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
So, loosen your top, please, I'll listen to your breathing. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
Look...the attitude... it impresses no-one. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
And yours does? | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Listen, Lady Muck, you think I was too stupid to not get knocked up? | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
You think you can talk down to me? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Well, I'm not having it. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
You know nothing about me, right? | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
This is a no smoking building. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
I can see that we have a lot of work to do. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
Yeah, I spoke to them last night, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
if they were going somewhere, I thought they would've said. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Mum? Dad? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
That's their song. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
It's been on repeat since I got here. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
They did it... | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
They actually did it. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
Did what? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Call an ambulance. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Is that their medication? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
I need an ambulance, please. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Your mum's still alive. Come here. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
I need you to keep an eye on her pulse for me. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Hello, hi...just a minute. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-Feel that? -Yeah. -Count out for me. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Hi. This is Dr Tyler from the Mill Health Centre. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
I need an ambulance, please. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
..three... | 0:05:19 | 0:05:20 | |
-Yeah, two patients... -..four... -..one in cardiac arrest. -..five. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
I'm at 19 Wallsend Terrace. OK, thank you. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Your dad's heart's stopped. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
I need you to help me get him to the floor. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Slowly! | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
You need to understand why you shouldn't be smoking. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Firstly, there's your chronic asthma. Secondly, there's the baby. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Now, let me reassure you that I would not think twice | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
about wasting your time, but I do not waste my own. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
This is important. For both of you. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Smoking can damage the placenta and the umbilical cord, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
so that there is less oxygen in both your and the baby's blood. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
The poor little thing's heart has to work so much harder. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
-You done? -What? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
I don't need an old, stuck up doctor bint | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
telling me how to look after my baby. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
Keep counting out loud for me. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:06:23 | 0:06:24 | |
I'm in here! In the living room! | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Two patients, one male, one female. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
The male's been in cardiac arrest | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
and receiving CPR for at least five minutes. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
The female is still alive. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
I think she's tachycardic. About 115. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
She's also hypovolaemic. I think she might have an internal bleed. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Give them some space. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:46 | |
I'm going to go with them. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
OK, well, let them do their thing. I'll take you to the hospital. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-Wait! -You want more? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
A girl has every right to stick up for herself. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I know I do. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
Come back in here and hear me out. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
If you think I'm talking down to you, you can just say. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
I still get paid. So, you're not getting one over on me by going. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
You're just missing out on things | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
that are going to make your baby healthy. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
And you don't want that, do you? | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
I'm sure your mum will be fine. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:46 | |
What... | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
what about my dad? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
How much had your parents told you about their medical conditions? | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
Dad's got mid-stage Alzheimer's, and Mum... | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
she was diagnosed with terminal cancer. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
How was she bearing up? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Did your dad know about her condition? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Yes. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
Some prescription medications can't be taken | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
with over-the-counter drugs. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
It's dangerous. I have told your parents that. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
I'm sorry. It's just that... | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
We'll talk about it later. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Uh, OK... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:07 | |
I'm really sorry, but your... your father's passed away. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
When they got him into Resus, he had an advanced decision in his pocket. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
Saying he didn't want any further treatment. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Do you know anything about it? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Yeah, he did that last year. I should've said, you know... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
Sorry, with everything that was going on, I didn't, um... | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
He always said he didn't want to be a burden. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
Your mum's still alive and fighting. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
I know this is a really difficult time for you, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
but I have to get back to the Mill. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
Are you going to be OK? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:05 | |
Yeah, I'm going to be all right. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
If you need to see him, or your mum, the staff will take care of it. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:15 | |
-OK? -Yeah. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
Once again, I'm really sorry, mate. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
What I heard is smoking doesn't do that much damage. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
So what if the baby's a bit smaller? | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
That makes being born easier. For me and the baby. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-That's good, isn't it? -You heard? | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Yeah. My mate Shaznay, she's had babies. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
She knows what she's talking about. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
OK... I... I see where you're coming from. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
Look, I've had a baby, so I'm not just a doctor. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
I do actually know what I'm talking about. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Firstly, your body, it's built for this. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Especially someone as young as you. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
The baby being smaller, it's going to make no difference. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
Secondly, there just is no upside to smoking while you're pregnant. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
Because the baby's heart is smaller, it has to work that much harder. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
Its lungs are small, its organs are small... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Smoking while pregnant can lead to miscarriage, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
it can cause premature birth, illness after birth. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
I don't mean to scare you, but this is the reality. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
There is a proven link between smoking and cot death. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
But it is not too late to do your baby good by quitting. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
I was going to chuck it anyway. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
-Have you seen the price of fags lately? -Extortionate. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
Think of all the vodka I could buy with the money! | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Kidding! | 0:11:47 | 0:11:48 | |
OK, let's settle down and get started, shall we? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Karen? Are you all right? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
You're not looking terribly relaxed. Has something happened? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
Um...I want to talk about something different today. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
OK, what? | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
My children. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
Are you all right, Dr Tyler? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
Yeah. I'll be fine. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Ah, Dr Tyler. I heard what happened. Do you need any time? | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
No, patients worrying themselves sick | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
when there's nothing wrong with them are exactly what I need right now. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
The Mill Health Centre. How may I help you? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Uh...who is speaking please? | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Gary Webster. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Hi. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
Talking about your children would be a big breakthrough. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
But it's a huge step. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
-Are you absolutely sure that you want to? -No, I don't want to. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
It's difficult and it's all stuff that I don't understand, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
but I need to talk about them, I need to understand it all. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
I'm not sure how many parents feel | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
that they really understand their children. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Some very happy families can feel | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
as if they've got an alien in the house. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
I know that not facing this, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
and hoping it'll all sort itself out...it isn't working. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
Ignoring them... | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
is making things worse. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Can I, please? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
It's your session. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
'This is so hard...' | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
'..but it's the right thing to do.' | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Here you go. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
I need to know what you saw back there... | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
at the house. | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
Erm... well, I guess you nailed it. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
I think your parents decided for reasons I can only guess at | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-to take their... -It was an accident. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
That's what you have to tell the police. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Gary, I'll tell them what I saw. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
I'm not going to lie. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
With your mum's metastatic cancer and your dad's Alzheimer's, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
it's easy to understand why they wanted dignity and control. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
And the advanced decision in your dad's pocket | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
tells us all we need to know. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
Mum and Dad had a lot on their plates. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
They made a big mistake. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
They knew what they were doing. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
-And there's the music. -It was an accident. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
The one song, their song, stuck on repeat? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
They wanted it to be the last thing they heard. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
I'm sorry, I understand that you're upset, but... | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Mum's still hanging in there. She's got a gastrointestinal bleed. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
They're operating on her. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
I don't want her living the time she has left | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
with a manslaughter charge hanging over her. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-They wouldn't... -I spoke to them at the hospital. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
-DS Cooper? -Yeah. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
He said a charge is a possibility if they think that she killed Dad. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-Look, you're just going to say what you saw, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Well then, you didn't see anything | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
that makes it look like it wasn't an accident. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Exhale. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
-SHE COUGHS -Right. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Does your asthma disturb your sleep? | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
I like my sleep. It's this little pest that disturbs it. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
He's just like his dad. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
Likes to make things difficult for me. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Is he around? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
He wants to be. For now. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
But I'm not going to wait till he decides to do one. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
So, you think he's going to walk out on you? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Well, his brother did the same to his girl and baby. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
And whatever big brother does, Marley does. We're always fighting. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
He'll get sick of it, and "whoosh." | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
So, you don't wait for people to let you down? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Problem with that? | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
No, just getting your retaliation in first. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
Sometimes you can be your own worst enemy. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Just saying. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
Anyway, as I expected, we have to keep an eye on your asthma, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
especially once the baby comes. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
But quitting smoking will have really helped. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Are you planning on breast-feeding? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Not a chance. Once he's here, I want my body back. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
I'm not having saggy boobs. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
Well, you're not necessarily going to get... | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Of course, it's your decision. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
For a young woman like you, your body is important, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
but of course for a young woman like you, it's going to be | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
much more likely that everything snaps back into place. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
But not at your age, eh? | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Well, not necessarily. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
Let's just say I'd have to put a little more work in. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
I've got more than 20 years to pick up with the kids... | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
and I don't know how. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
I mean, it's...it's one thing dating Rob, because we can... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
-Rediscover each other? -Yes. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
I mean, we can fall for each all over again... | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
-if the things that made it happen in the first place are still... -Mm-hm. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
..and that makes me feel... | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Cos Rob is... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
is like a rock, an anchor. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
And with everything else, I feel lost, but when Rob is there... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I think I'm falling in love with him. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
-Again. -Again. Yeah. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
Do you need to resolve things with your children | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
for the sake of you and your children, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
or for the sake of you and Rob? | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
Both, I think. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
Cos it's, um... Its starting to click with Rob | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
and I'm just waiting for the moment when it... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Clicks? With Jack? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
And Imogen? And you have all those feelings again? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
It doesn't happen all the time, but there was, um... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
There was this thing with Immie. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
There was a moment when I almost felt that bond. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
And then it was gone. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:15 | |
Sometimes, our relationships with our children... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
they're based on a shared history. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
But there is no history. It's gone. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Does that mean I can't pick things up with Jack and Immie? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
No. No, not at all. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
-FIRE ALARM RINGS -Ugh... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
You just know that someone's gone and burnt toast or something. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Look, we are going to continue with this. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Karen? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
If I tell the police the truth that they knew the dangers, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
and if I mention the music, then they're going to know | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
it wasn't an accident and they might charge her. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Well, it's clearly a very difficult situation. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
Are you sure it was a joint enterprise? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
I think so. I think it's what the father wanted. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
Well, the poor woman is going to have to live with the consequences. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Even if she survives the operation, she hasn't got much time left. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
So, what is the point in putting her through this? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Let her live and die in peace. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
So, you think I should lie and not tell them what I know? | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
It's not our decision to make. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
If this is a potential criminal case... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Daniel, why are you taking the moral high ground? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Because I don't think Kevin should lie to the police. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
I don't think he'll be very good at it, for one. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
And I'm sorry, Kevin, if this woman killed her husband | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
with or without his informed consent, that is a crime. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
False alarm. You can all go back to your offices now. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
'Hi, it's Rob Hollins, please leave a message. Thanks.' | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Karen! | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
There you are. I thought you'd left. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Ugh, can you believe someone tried to sneak a cigarette? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Anyway, we're not finished. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
We have to try to understand where we'd got to. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
Um, where we'd got to is, um, I can pick things up with Rob, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
but I don't know my children. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
It's like I gave them away when they were babies, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
and now, I don't know what to say to them. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
I'm scared. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
-Good. Because it is scary. -No, you don't... | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Look, let's go back. We'll carry on. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
But first, why don't you tell me | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
what it is you're holding back from this session. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
Yeah, OK, got that. Cheers. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Dr Tyler! How are you? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
-Fine. -DS Cooper, we met when... -Yeah, I remember you. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
Good. Must be a nice change not being a suspect. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
Yeah, something like that. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
That was St Phil's. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
It looks like they've moved Mrs Webster to ITU. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
-They've turned off the tap, they think she's going to survive. -Good. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
The son, fair enough, he's grieving but he's a pain. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
Well, look, the situation is, um, well... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
the investigation's going to continue. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Worst case, the CPS may push a murder charge on Mrs Webster, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
but that would be difficult. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
I mean, no-one wants to put a sick, elderly widow through this. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
I mean, by the time we've completed all the due process, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
the old biddy may be dead or too sick to prosecute anyway. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Unless I've got any concrete reason not to, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
I'm inclined to treat this as a tragic accident. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
I just want facts. What you saw and what you did. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
So, Dr Tyler, I've had a look at the scene and... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
I haven't seen anything that rules out an accidental overdose. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Have you? Based on what you saw. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
-I...uh... -Take your time. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
No. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
OK. Well...um... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
We'll get a formal statement from you in due course. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Cheers. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
Listen, if you don't want to tell me, that's OK. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
The important thing is that you feel ready to say it. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
But the thing is, whatever it is looks to me like it's... | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
an obstacle to progress. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
The fire alarm's over. Nothing's going to interrupt us now. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
An observation... Is it Jack? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
When we met, I didn't know who he was. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I just thought he was a nice looking lad... | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
and he was friendly. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
I kissed him. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
And this was just after your accident? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
And he didn't identify himself as your son? | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
No, he must've been freaked out by everything that had happened. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
This sounds like a misunderstanding, nothing more. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Possibly, there were emotions there, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
seeing your son that you didn't fully understand. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
But you were very ill and very confused. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
Do you feel better for getting this out? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Do you think I should forgive myself? | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
No. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
There's nothing to forgive. It's really nothing much. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
It's awful, it's gross. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
It's nothing. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
And calling it gross and awful just empowers it. Can you see that? | 0:24:23 | 0:24:31 | |
You can overcome this, if you take control of it. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Have you met with Jack since? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
No. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:38 | |
Then, what do you think the next step is? | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Meet him? | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
I'd suggest with Rob and Immie, not alone. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Not because something might happen, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
but because you need them to be part of this. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Has Jack made any attempts to stay in contact? | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
-Yeah. -Good. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:04 | |
Go on in, yes? Go on in. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
I...I'm sorry about earlier. I panicked a bit. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
I didn't want Mum to suffer any more than she already has. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
You were out of order. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
Well, um, thanks for everything that you did, you know. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
I've spoken to the police. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
You can relax. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
-You did the right thing. -Really? | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
Look, if you want to help your mum, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
stop telling everyone it was an accident. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
All that does is make people look more closely, all right? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Yeah, you should, um, come in, see what it means to the family. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Thanks, but I've got to get back. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Good, I think that's the strategy we need to work on for now. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
Focusing on a shared history that you can't access | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
is just a brick wall. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
Yeah, but that's the thing we've got in common. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
I think it'll help if you and Rob | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
only talk about the children as they are now. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Take it gradually. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
Focusing on a future that you can all share is far more fruitful. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
You have to be committed to this. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
And then, I think the next step | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
is to get you and me and Rob together for a session. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
And then the children. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Is that a problem? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
Yeah. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Um...I'm not sure there is a Rob and me any more. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I'm going to get pregnant again. As soon as possible. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
You're not an easy girl to find, Jade. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Couldn't have looked hard enough. Look at the size of me! | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
I talked to Mandy about getting pregnant! | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
Did Mandy actually say it would be OK? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
I breast-fed my son. And I can assure you that my boobs | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
-are not down to my knees. -Whatever. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Why did you do it? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 |