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Well?

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I don't know, Rhee.

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-SHE GROANS

-Why are men so useless?

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I like these.

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I'm not going clubbing. I've got to look smart.

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What did you bring them out for, then?

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Um...try the black shiny ones again.

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Hurry up.

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All right.

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Give me a chance. Hobbit feet.

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I have not got Hobbit feet!

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Hmm.

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-There we go.

-Go on, give us a twirl.

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-Ta-da!

-Great.

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-They're going to love you.

-They're going to say no.

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They're not.

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I don't know what I'll do.

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They're not.

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-Hi.

-Hi.

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I got here way too early.

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You're not the only ones.

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-Hiya.

-Hiya.

-I'm so glad you're both here.

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-Yeah, thanks for this.

-It's our pleasure.

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Honestly, I mean, no-one's ever spoken up for me before.

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Listen, it's the least we can do. You both deserve it.

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Ooh!

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Contractions?

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How often?

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Just every now and again.

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Not as bad as yesterday, though.

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Just hope my waters don't go in the middle of all this.

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Well, if they do, we'll handle it.

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Or rather you'll handle it.

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Fingers crossed it'll stay put until it's over.

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-Right, come on, let's go in.

-Yeah.

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Thank you all for coming.

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My name is Sue Harper.

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I'm a social worker. I'll be the independent chair

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of today's child protection case conference

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for the unborn child of Rhiannon Davis.

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I'll be here to help decide the best course of action.

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This is my assistant, Eddy, who will be taking minutes.

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-Hi, folks.

-Morning.

-Before we get things started,

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let's go around the room to introduce ourselves.

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Just give your name and a brief summation of why you're here today.

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My name's Jane Fairweather, I'm the social worker currently

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assigned to Rhiannon's case.

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I'm Donna Sweeney, social worker.

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I was previously assigned to oversee the care of Rhiannon's first child.

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Ruhma Hanif. I'm Rhiannon's midwife.

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I'm Dr Emma Reid. I'm Rhiannon's GP,

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and I'm here to give my professional medical opinion.

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I'm Rhiannon, obviously.

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And this is Paul, my partner.

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-Paul Cuthbert.

-Yeah, sorry.

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Thank you both for attending.

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If at any point, either of you are unclear

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about what's being said,

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you must feel free to ask questions.

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Let me remind you all this is not a formal court of law, but I must

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ask that you respect each other's right to speak without interruption.

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Everyone that wishes to contribute

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will get a chance to do so in due course.

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May I ask, will there be an opportunity to counter

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any statements?

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Should something pertinent to the case arise from what's discussed,

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I'll see to it there's a chance to summarize before a decision is made.

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Rhiannon, would you like to say a few things first?

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You're welcome to say as little or as much as you wish.

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Um, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you,

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for giving me this chance to prove what this baby means to me.

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I know that everyone in this room

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wants what's best for this baby,

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and, well, so do we.

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Oh, and, if you see me fidgeting, it's just a contraction.

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I'll try and sit still.

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Of course, but if you start to feel uncomfortable, you must tell us.

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Dr Emma Reid, perhaps you'd like to start things off?

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Yes, thank you.

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Um...

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I have only recently met Rhiannon,

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because she is now a patient of mine,

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but it is because of this

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that I feel I might be in a position

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to give fresh eyes to this situation.

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I meet a lot of expectant mothers in my job, and I can honestly say

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that Rhiannon's commitment to her unborn child has been exceptional.

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Her antenatal care has been outstanding.

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She has kept an eye on her diet and taken full responsibility

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for herself and for her environment,

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even getting Paul to give up smoking

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as soon as she found out that she was pregnant.

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I am, of course, aware of the facts of the previous case.

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Rhiannon has been very frank and open about her past mistakes.

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However, she is in a very different place now.

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And it is because of that

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that I believe keeping this family together

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is absolutely in the best interests of this child.

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KNOCK ON DOOR

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Sorry I'm late.

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I've only just managed to get away from an incident.

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Not a problem, please come in.

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And I know she has been working hard

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to make those changes for the long term.

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-Are you all right?

-In short, Rhiannon has matured...

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-Is it the baby?

-..into a conscientious...

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-No, I'm fine.

-..loving young woman...

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And I believe that she should have the chance to give those

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qualities to her child.

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Thank you.

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Ruhma Hanif.

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Would you like to add to Dr Reid's

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assessment of Rhiannon's antenatal care?

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As Rhiannon's midwife, I've had the opportunity to engage with her

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throughout this pregnancy,

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and I concur with Dr Reid's description...

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RUHMA'S VOICE FADES

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BABY CRIES

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Can you foresee any signs of postnatal depression?

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I wish it were as simple as that to predict in advance.

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In my view, the uncertainty around the fate of this unborn child

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is causing tremendous stress.

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And how is that strain playing out, in your opinion?

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I think she's bearing up well under the circumstances, which bodes well.

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She's showing tremendous resilience

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and commitment to this baby at this early stage.

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Thank you, Ms Hanif.

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Sergeant Hollins. Perhaps you'd like to speak next.

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Yeah. Um, I was asked to come in today to talk about Rhiannon's past

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dealings with the police.

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But I would like to say that I wasn't personally involved

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when Rhiannon's daughter was taken away from her five years ago.

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-But you're aware of the incident in question.

-Oh, yes.

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The case had a profound effect on many of my colleagues.

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But my involvement with Rhiannon in the past was entirely drug-related.

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SHOUTING AND BANGING

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-Everyone...

-Get off!

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Stay where you are. You stay there.

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-Don't move.

-No, you don't.

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Get off me! Get out of my way!

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-Right, OK.

-Get off me!

-Have it your way then.

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No!

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-You'll get hurt. Stop struggling.

-You can't keep me here!

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I have done nothing!

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How did she behave?

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I would say that she behaved like I would expect anyone to

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under the influence of narcotics.

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She was later released with only a caution

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because she we couldn't find any more drugs on her actual person.

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And if I'm honest, at the time,

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I did think that she got off too lightly.

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And what's your opinion now?

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My opinion now is that it's a good thing she didn't get locked up,

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She's managed to clean up her act without going to prison.

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For the last four years, we have had no dealings with Rhiannon,

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which I think is testament to the commitment she has to staying clean.

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And also, I'd like to add that Mr Cuthbert, her partner,

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has been police checked, and he has no convictions.

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Thank you, Sergeant, Hollins. You've been very helpful.

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Ms Fairweather?

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Right, well,

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I've listened to what everyone has had to say about Rhiannon,

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and of course I have formed my own opinion

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of her character from my dealings with her.

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I think it's commendable that she's done

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so much to improve herself and her quality of life.

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But unfortunately, this case isn't about Rhiannon.

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We're all here today to decide

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what's best for her baby once he's born.

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And I strongly believe that a mother

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who has inflicted a high level of neglect on her baby

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cannot be allowed to put another child at risk of serious harm.

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BABY CRIES

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Statistics show that there's a high probability of recidivism

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with child abuse cases, where the second, third, even fourth child

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suffer the same fate as the first,

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despite legal and social intervention.

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This is true of all types of child abuse, but it's important to note

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that neglect is the most common recidivism type.

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Basically, history is often the best indicator of future behaviour.

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-That is blatantly unfair.

-Dr Reid...

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Are you suggesting there's no such thing as rehabilitation?

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Dr Reid. You were given your chance to speak without interruption.

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Kindly extend the same courtesy to Ms Fairweather.

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I'm sorry.

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Please continue.

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OK, look, in my job I deal with literally hundreds of cases

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just like this one and each and every one is heartbreaking,

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for everyone involved.

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It's always tragic for a family to have to be broken apart,

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and I believe it's our responsibility

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to do everything we can to avoid it.

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But in the end, the choice boils down to one thing -

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the welfare of the child.

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It trumps everything else.

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And in my professional opinion,

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there are grave concerns for the wellbeing of this baby.

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Donna Sweeney.

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I'd like to hear your assessment,

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given your prolonged dealings with Rhiannon in the past.

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Thank you. Um...

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I was assigned to Rhiannon's case in 2011. My experience...

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-I'm sorry!

-Oh, here we go.

-Are you OK?

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Can we take a ten-minute break?

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Yeah, course. Let's take a short break.

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-Come on. My apologies.

-It's OK.

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SHE BREATHES HEAVILY

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Rhiannon?

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-Rhiannon, are you all right?

-I'm fine.

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You're not in any pain?

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Your waters haven't broken, have they?

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No, no.

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Look, please come out.

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It really isn't good for you or the baby to be this upset.

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I can't breathe.

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Yes, you can.

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Look, I know that it's difficult

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having to listen to things about your past

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that you'd rather forget.

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But you've worked so hard, you've made massive changes in your life.

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I mean, the results speak for themselves.

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Yeah, but what if that doesn't matter?

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Of course it matters. You're addiction-free.

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You're in a stable, loving relationship.

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They're going to have to take notice of those things.

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That social worker hates me.

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I don't think that's true.

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Come on, remember what you said.

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Everyone in that room, they just want what's best

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for that new life inside you.

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You just have to show them you want the same thing.

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Yeah, yeah, I can do that.

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I'll fight for this baby, no matter what's said about me.

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Good. Good. Come on, let's go back in.

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Yeah, I just...

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I need a pee.

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Rhiannon was given chance after chance to retain her child.

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She was offered drug rehabilitation placements. She failed to attend.

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I tried to give advice and support

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so she would clean up her squalid living conditions.

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But she wasn't interested.

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Eventually she refused to cooperate with me at all.

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How so?

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She became increasingly hostile towards me in the weeks

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and months before her child was taken into care.

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Things came to a head when she denied all access for me

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to check up on the baby.

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BANGING ON DOOR

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BABY CRIES INSIDE

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Rhiannon.

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Rhiannon!

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-What do you want?

-You know why I'm here.

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I'm concerned about your child and I would like to see her.

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You're not coming in.

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Rhiannon, you're in no fit state to look after her.

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What's that supposed to mean?

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-You've taken something. I can see it.

-No, I haven't!

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I'm fed up of you coming round here sticking your nose in.

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She's my baby and I'll do what I want.

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Rhiannon, please, she's crying. Just let me get to her.

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You come here again an' I will swing for you, you skanky cow.

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And that was the day I called the police in to investigate.

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I was afraid for the child's safety and for good reason.

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This baby was highly distressed.

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She was undernourished, her nappy clearly hadn't been changed in days.

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Rhiannon displayed no remorse or concern for her own baby.

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Quite frankly, her only feelings seemed to be for herself.

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But I was an addict. That's not who I am any more.

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It's not who I am.

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Please forgive me for asking, but are those tears for that baby girl?

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-Or are you still crying for yourself?

-That is unacceptable.

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-That was a personal attack.

-You're right. Ms Sweeney, look,

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I appreciate we are dealing with highly emotive issues here,

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-but I must ask you to stick to the facts.

-I'm sorry.

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But Rhiannon's inability to empathize with the pain

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and suffering of her own baby girl, well, it can't go overlooked.

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I strongly believe that the risk

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to this next child is totally unacceptable.

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Thank you, Ms Sweeney.

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Perhaps now is a good time to take a short break.

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Shall we recommence at 10:30?

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-I'm going to go and get some air.

-Paul.

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I hope you're proud of yourselves.

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-Excuse me?

-Rhiannon was practically a child

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when all of this happened to her.

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You're condemning her for her past and yet you're denying her a future.

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Emma, that's ridiculous. We're not here to punish Rhiannon.

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We've got the baby's best interests at heart.

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-And I don't?

-Let's keep things civilised, shall we?

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Try telling them that!

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Emma. Wait.

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What's going on?

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They are trying to take her child away.

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And I'm not allowed to be angry about that?

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I understand you care about this girl, so do I.

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But aren't you letting this get a bit too close to your heart,

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which is not like you. Are you all right?

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Don't worry, I just ponced one off someone.

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I'd have one too if I could.

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Better not give 'em any more ammunition, eh?

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We have talked about what I did.

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-I've never hidden anything from you.

-I know.

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It's just difficult listening to all the details and stuff.

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I always sort of put that baby out of my mind.

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But she's the same as the one you're carrying now.

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That's our kid's big sister, Rhee.

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Maybe they're right. Maybe I don't deserve a second chance.

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I won't blame you if you wanted to walk away.

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I'm sorry. Oh, I don't know.

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It's just something about this case, it's got under my skin.

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Why?

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Maybe because I see myself in Rhiannon.

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I wasn't exactly a great mother once.

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Emma, that was a long time ago.

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I know. But if I had had another child...

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and if someone had tried to take it away from me

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before I'd had the chance...

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Whatever your feelings are, for whatever reason,

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it's probably best that you keep them out of this.

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Otherwise you run the risk of making it worse for Rhiannon.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, you're right.

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Why would you even think I'd leave you?

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I know you better than anybody in there,

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and I know you're a good person.

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-No, I'm not.

-Yes, you are.

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I see it every day. You make me smile every day.

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I love you, Rhiannon.

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Just as much as I know you're going to love our little boy.

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And even if they take him away from us...

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..they'll never be able to take me away from you.

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Now blow your nose.

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You can't go back in there with snot on your face.

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Rhiannon.

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I know a lot of stuff has been said about me today.

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A lot of stuff that's ugly and sad

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and hard to even think about.

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But I do think about it. All the time.

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I know what I did to my little girl can never be changed.

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And I can never tell her how sorry I am for letting her down.

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But I did love her. I just...

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I couldn't feel it and I couldn't show it.

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It's like that love was locked away somewhere, from both of us.

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And...all I could think about was my next fix.

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I can't tell you much about that time

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because it's like I wasn't really there.

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And it wasn't until I'd lost my daughter,

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until I'd lost everything,

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that I realised what I'd become.

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And like all of you, I was disgusted.

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That is why I fought to come off the drugs, and stay off them.

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I learned how to take pride in myself again.

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In how I look, where I live.

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Who I'm with.

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Meeting Paul and having him believe in me

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has made all the difference in the world.

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I know with him by my side, I can do things right this time.

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I'm already a mother to this baby.

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I bonded with him the second I saw that little squiggle on the monitor.

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SHE SOBS

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It's more than I can bear.

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Please don't take my baby away from me.

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Thank you.

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I'm sorry. Can I say something?

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Please.

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I'm not very good with words

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so if I go on a bit, I'm sorry.

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But I just want you all to see what I see in Rhiannon.

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She's the best thing that's ever happened to me.

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Just now she said how much it means to her that I believe in her.

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How much it's changed her.

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Well, that works both ways.

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She makes me believe that I can do anything.

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Like be a dad.

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I just want you all to remember that this is my kid too.

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I want the chance to be a dad, and it's not right that you

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should punish me, and my son, for something we had nothing to do with.

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Look, I wouldn't be sat here now

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if I didn't think Rhiannon could look after our little boy.

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I'm here because...

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..I know she'll be a natural at it.

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Hey. What do you think of these?

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Gorgeous.

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Are you going to decide sometime today?

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What do you think, Froggy?

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Should Mummy get the frumpy pink one or the frumpy green one?

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Some tempting decisions...

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Too late.

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BABY CRIES

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Hello, little one. Hi.

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She's beautiful.

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-Hello.

-Hello.

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I can't promise that things are always going to be perfect.

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Nobody can.

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But what I can promise is that when times get tough...

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..and Rhiannon needs my help,

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I'll be there.

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Please, all I'm asking is that you give us

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the chance to be a proper family.

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I'd, um, I'd like to add one more thing, if I may?

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Please.

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They say that good people do bad things.

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And bad people do good things.

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The truth is that we all make choices

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every moment of our lives, and those choices add up to who we are.

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And we are all capable of making better choices as we go along.

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I thoroughly dislike this idea

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that history is the best indication of future behaviour.

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Why?

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Because it denies the possibility of change.

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Yes, it was Rhiannon's choice to take drugs.

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But it was also her choice to stop.

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If she has the determination

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and the courage to get clean...

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..then the possibility for change for her

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is vast and we cannot ignore that.

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If everyone has said all they wish to say...

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..I'd like to adjourn to give us a moment

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to decide an appropriate line of action for the child.

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Game of charades, anyone?

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How long's it been?

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Can't be more than 20 minutes.

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That's bad, isn't it? I know it is.

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No, there's a lot to consider.

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Here we go.

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Would you all like to come back in?

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Right, come on.

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I'd just like to thank you all for your heartfelt input.

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On a personal note,

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this has been an extremely difficult decision for me to make.

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But ultimately, I have been impressed by Rhiannon's clear

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willingness to correct the mistakes from her past,

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and moved by all those who have put their faith in her ability to do so.

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I will pass all this testimony on to the family court judge

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with a recommendation that they implement a child protection plan

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offering support to the parents while they care for the child.

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Everyone who agrees, please say so now.

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-Agreed.

-Agreed.

-Agreed.

-Agreed!

-Definitely, yes.

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-I'm sorry but no, I disagree.

-Likewise. I strongly disagree.

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Ideally I'd like to reach a consensus, but there is a clear

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leaning in favour of the plan of action I've put forward.

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My recommendation stands.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you. I promise I won't let you down.

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I still can't believe it.

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We couldn't have done it without you.

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-All we did was tell the truth.

-I reckon a celebration's in order.

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I'll have to give that a miss, I'm afraid.

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-Alcohol-free of course.

-Speak for yourself.

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Thanks anyway.

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Rhiannon,

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I want you to know I have nothing against you personally,

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but this was the wrong decision.

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-What do you think you're doing?

-My job.

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Which is why I intend to go to the family court tomorrow

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and ask for an order for the baby to be removed.

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What?

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They can't change their minds, can they?

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Um...

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They said that we could look after him. Everybody agreed.

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So why are these social workers trying to ruin everything?

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I don't know.

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Are you a nurse? You're spending your wages here?

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That's NHS money, public money

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and you're giving it to these sadistic torturers.

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When you first mentioned fostering,

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I thought you'd gone a bit mad but no, your instincts were spot on.

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