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-Hello! You know we're not actually open until...

-I know.

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Are you drawing The Mill?

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-Are you a patient?

-I'm a concerned citizen.

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Is this about yesterday?

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Why? What happened yesterday?

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Nothing.

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There's no need to rush back to work.

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You take as much time you need.

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Everybody sends their love and said to say that they're thinking of you.

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Emma, stop. We really don't need you to do this.

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-Do what? I was just...

-No, we're absolutely fine.

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-Aren't we?

-Yeah.

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-Hey, champ!

-Hi, Joe.

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HE CHUCKLES

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Oh, this is Emma.

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She's a friend of Mummy and Daddy's, so it's fine to talk to her.

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Hello, Joe.

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Hello. Are you coming shopping with us?

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Oh, I wish I was! But I've got to go to work.

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Well, we're definitely going, so why don't we go upstairs and get dressed?

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And then YOU can choose whatever toy you want.

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Aren't you lucky? What are you going to choose?

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Biggest truck ever!

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-Good for you!

-Come on.

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-Listen...

-If you offer me any type of support, I swear I will lose it.

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Zara, if there is anything I can do...

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I know. Thank you.

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We're fine.

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OK.

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Yeah, but what if you hadn't have found him?

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I mean, poor little Joe! It doesn't bear thinking about.

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No. Right, I'd better go.

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Oh, no, no! You've forgotten these.

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Cheese and pickle.

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I asked for ham.

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Did you?

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No, I specifically asked for ham! Karen, I asked for ham sandwiches!

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-I mean, can't you get anything right?

-I thought you liked cheese...

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I do like cheese and pickle! That's not the point, is it?

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I like cheese and pickle,

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but I wanted ham! Is that too much to ask for?

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OK, so we're not talking about sandwiches. What's the matter?

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What if I hadn't have found Joe?

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But you did.

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But what if I hadn't?

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It's like Marnie all over again.

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Oh, no, it's very different.

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HE SIGHS

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-I'd better go to work.

-We need to talk about thi...

-No. I need to go.

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You forgot...

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Oh, right, good, you are all here.

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Look, er, can I have a moment of your time?

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Yeah, just a minute, who's that bloke?

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Look, I am sure you are all aware of the lies and vitriol that have been

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directed against us online over the last few weeks.

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It made very grim reading.

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Yeah, imagine saying that we should be shut down!

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Typical troll! Ignore it.

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Well, I'm sorry, we cannot do that.

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Yesterday, I had a very difficult meeting with the chair of the CCG.

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And he's concerned about patient perception of The Mill

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as a result of all of these comments.

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And he has insisted that we take action before it gets any worse.

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OK, so what's that bloke got to do with it?

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That...is our troll.

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What? What the hell's he doing here?

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I have invited him here to shadow us.

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-Oh!

-Why?

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Because...because I think it is

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important that we talk to people we do not agree with.

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You didn't sanction this at all, did you?

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The chair of the CCG forced your hand!

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No, no, not at all.

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Look, I agree that something had to be done.

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So I need you all to be on your best behaviour.

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So what, do you want us to sugar-coat things?

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On the contrary. I want him to see the absolute truth.

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I am confident we can convince him that we

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always do our very best, and change his mind.

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You have our full support, Mrs Tembe.

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Right. Thank you, Dr Carter.

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-Oh, I missed all that. What's happened?

-Ooh!

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Everyone, this is Mr Jeremy Ibbotson.

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Good morning.

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I appreciate you agreeing to this.

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I'm a satirical cartoonist, by trade, so don't worry if you see me scribbling away.

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It's a funny coincidence, actually, cos there's another Jeremy who has been trolling us

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-on all the message boards and the social media.

-Miss Pitman...

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Whenever the NHS comes up in the papers, this idiot, Jeremy,

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starts bad-mouthing us and saying we should be shut...

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-EMMA CLEARS THROAT

-Valerie.

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Oh.

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And today is your chance to prove me wrong.

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This way, please.

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I only agreed to this to collect enough evidence to make

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a stronger case for your closure.

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You know that, right?

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All I want you to see is how hard the staff work

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and the challenges they face on a day-to-day basis.

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For example, two of our senior doctors are away today, so...

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Two? Typical! This is my point.

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How much are they paid, yet where are they when people need them?

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Well, they have a personal matter to attend to.

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But it is not a problem.

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The other staff are happy to cover for them.

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Meaning longer waiting times and more cancelled appointments?

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We have a motto here at The Mill.

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"No patient left uncared for."

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You will see.

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-VALERIE:

-'So then he's standing there with his sketch pad,'

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as if butter wouldn't melt.

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He can stick his pencil where the sun don't shine!

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How's that going to help? Why don't you just try talking to him?

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Ooh! Very New Age.

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-You fancy lunch later?

-Ah, no. No, I can't.

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-I've got something planned.

-What are you up to? That's twice you've turned me down.

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Nothing special.

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Um...Jeremy? Jimmi Clay, partner.

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-I've got five minutes now, if you want a chat.

-Sounds good. Thank you.

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I thought you were a reformed woman.

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Haven't said a word.

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You don't need to, grinning at me, Grinny McGrinface.

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Don't worry, I won't say anything to anyone about you looking for love.

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I'm not looking for love, it's just a... It's a public service.

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Oh, whatever you say. Your secret's safe with me.

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So, how would you respond if I said The Mill was overstretched and under-resourced?

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Show me a GP surgery that isn't.

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I mean, what matters is that we've got a good team here

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and we're there for our patients and we're there for each other.

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-Is there a reason why you decided to pick on us?

-I'm not picking on you.

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I just want people to know the truth.

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Right, and how does expressing this anger really make you feel inside?

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I'm not here to talk about my feelings.

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Cos I'm training to be a counsellor, so you could talk to me in confidence.

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I don't need any of that. I'm fine. It was good to meet you.

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I'll let you get on.

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Right, OK, my door's always open.

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-Counsellor!

-HE SMIRKS

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-Hello.

-Heather Goldman for Dr Reid.

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You're booked for 4.30.

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OK. Yeah, we'll see you then. Bye-bye.

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That's great. Take a seat, please.

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Mill Heath Centre?

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Oh, any time between four and six.

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Yep, no, you're very welcome. Bye-bye.

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I've heard patients who call this surgery can't speak to a person,

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no matter how long they wait.

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Our policy is to answer every phone call within...

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Within five rings? I know. Never happens, though, does it?

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If you're on hold, we get to you...

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Within two minutes? That's just spin.

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-UNDER HER BREATH:

-I'll spin for you, mate.

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Absolutely not true.

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You agree with me, right? This place is a disaster.

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I don't know about this place, but the NHS...

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Overstretched and rife with mistakes.

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If I ran my business like that, I'd be bankrupt in day...

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You OK?

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I'm fine.

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I'm Jeremy.

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Heather. Are you a patient?

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Here? No way! I'm just a fly on the wall.

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-Miss Goldman.

-Dr Reid, thanks for fitting me in.

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-You're welcome. Come through.

-Wow, special treatment!

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All part of the service.

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-Nice to meet you.

-You too. Good luck.

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-PHONE RINGS

-Hello, Mill Health Centre.

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One ring.

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If only it was like that every time, eh?

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Hold me back!

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How long have you been having panic attacks?

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A month or so, maybe. It's probably nothing, just work stress, but...

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-OK, well, you did the right...

-I haven't really got time for this.

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I'm snowed under with the business, but I've finally turned a corner and I'm making some money, so...

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OK, look, listen to me. Your blood pressure is very high.

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And that concerns me, given your history.

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So I would like you to have some further tests at St Phil's,

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and I'm going to give them a call and see if they can see you today.

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For goodness' sake!

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So, tell me about this secret lunch.

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Oh, it's nothing interesting.

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No, no, tell me, tell me. Tell me, tell me, tell me!

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It's kind of a date thing.

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Oh! Well, great. I mean, that's good. It's about time you got back out there again.

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No, no, no, not like that. It's, um... It's an experiment.

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Like an extension of the random acts of kindness thing.

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-Now you've lost me.

-Right, well, I find women online, you know -

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someone who's been treated badly, you know, like Valerie was getting trolled and stuff.

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I take them on a nice date, I say nice things to them and generally make them feel...

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-Nice?

-Exactly.

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Sorry, that's not a random act of kindness. That's a patronising act of self-importance.

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Of course you'd say that. You pick holes in everything I do, man!

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Look, it makes them feel better and, in return, that makes me feel better, OK?

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See? That's exactly my point in the first place - making you feel better.

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Look, if you want to meet someone, why can't you just be open?

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How good do you think these women are going to feel if you take them out for one date and then dump them?

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You know what? I'm not taking relationship advice from you. I know what I'm doing. It's OK.

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-Bye. See you soon.

-Thank you. Bye.

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And we're out. Lunch?

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Oh, no, I can't. I want to catch Rob on his break.

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-See you later.

-Good luck!

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Good lunch, I meant.

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Ah, Mr Ibbotson! How has your morning been?

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Educational.

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So, what do you fancy? Icon?

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Er, yeah. Anywhere my face isn't plastered about.

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Since you're all so busy, I'd assume you'd have a sandwich at your desk.

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Well, you know what they say - all work and no lunch...

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Makes doctors rubbish in the afternoon.

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Hopefully, we've gone some way to changing your mind.

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Not really.

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I simply don't believe you give good service to your patients.

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VALERIE SIGHS

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We have seen over 100 patients this morning alone!

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The only person who seems unhappy is you, sketching away, judging us all.

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That's enough, Valerie.

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Perhaps we could discuss some of your concerns over lunch.

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I've heard all I need.

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Very well. Could we see some of the sketches from this morning?

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Oh, you'll see them soon enough.

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Well, that was a complete waste of time.

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He's going to go online and tell lies about us.

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Yes. It was not entirely my idea,

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I can assure you. I'm doing this under sufferance.

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Obviously, you cannot change people's minds with facts these days!

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-Sarah?

-Yes! Al, hello.

-Hi, how are you doing?

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Ooh! Ay...ah... Mwah. Mwah.

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-Sorry, my fault.

-Excellent.

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Shall we?

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It's really nice to meet you.

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You too! I'm all over the shop. You're my first internet date.

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My friend Katie's been pushing me to do it for ages, but it's scary, isn't it?

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Well, I'm honoured you agreed to meet me. Have you ordered yet?

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No, not yet. I've been too nervous to look.

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Nervous of me? Don't be daft!

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Let's see what they've got.

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I really like your hair. That style - it suits you.

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Oh, thank you.

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That's a very pretty dress, very becoming.

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Stop it now, I'm blushing!

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Right, so, what are you going to have?

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I think I'll start with the garlic bread.

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Garlic bread? On a first date?

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Oh, you devil, you!

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SHE GIGGLES

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Yeah, two garlic breads, please. Thank you.

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Ham.

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HE CHUCKLES

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Thanks, love. I am sorry about this morning.

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I don't know what that was all about.

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Really?

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I think it might be the pills, and sometimes I can't cope.

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It just... It makes me feel stupid because I didn't see it coming.

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No, whoa, whoa, whoa! It's not your fault.

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Anyway, um, Heston's got a drop-in this afternoon, and I've spoken to

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your duty sergeant, and I've reserved you the last slot of the day.

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-No, you didn't have to do that.

-It's done.

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But I've already got a follow-up booked in already,

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and I don't know whether I'll be finished by knock-off, so I don't think it's a good idea.

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This morning, you nearly cried over a ham sandwich.

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-I'll have a soda water, please.

-And a lager, please. Any kind. Thanks.

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So, how was your holiday?

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Yeah, yeah, it was nice. It was, er...

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Oh, I don't believe it! My picture's up there as well.

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It's everywhere.

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It's at The Mill, it's at the Campus, it's on billboards.

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Al and Jimmi are having a field day.

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Oh, come on, what did you expect, pretty boy?

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Yeah, well, it's supposed to be about inspiring people,

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not some diversity box-ticking exercise.

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But you are inspiring people.

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You know, only this morning,

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I had a young Sikh patient ask my advice on how to become a doctor,

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-all because they'd seen your poster.

-That's great, but the charity promised me a voice.

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They said they were interested in what I had to say, not just what I look like.

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Well, if you want a voice, then the poster's the perfect opportunity. Stop complaining!

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All tough love, you.

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That's me. Here's to your voice.

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Do you really think it's appropriate to be drunk when seeing patients?

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Well, I'm not, actually.

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It's just a lager.

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And I notice you're on soda water.

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Well, I didn't want to...

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Be drunk in the afternoon? My point exactly.

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Brilliant!

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Oh, look on the bright side -

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you might lose your poster boy image now.

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Oh, this has been great. You...you are a real treat.

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Wow! Thank you. It really couldn't have gone any better, could it?

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Um, thing is...

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Can I just...?

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Just getting some evidence, for social media.

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My friend, Katie, will never believe me otherwise.

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So, when can we do this again?

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Right, the thing is....

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You have got so much going for you.

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You're smart, you're intelligent, you're funny, you're sexy,

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you look like a million dollars,

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but you don't want to get involved with someone like me.

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Are you OK?

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OK, um... I'm sorry.

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You said I was a real treat!

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You are.

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So why are you binning me? Was it the selfie?

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Did I go too far?

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Please, don't do this!

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Not after one date! Give me another chance!

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-Please!

-OK, can you let me go?

-SHE SOBS

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Can I have the bill, please? Quickly.

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Lager, at lunchtime, on a working day!

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I understand your concerns,

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but Dr Vere is extremely conscientious...

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I'm going to call the CCG and demand that they immediately investigate.

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There is no need for that. Will you just listen?

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Mrs Tembe, I can explain.

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Oh, here we go. More spin.

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Look, as long as a doctor is not drunk when seeing patients,

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it's perfectly acceptable. And more importantly...

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I'm not actually seeing patients this afternoon.

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There's no way I would have been drinking lager if I was. I'm just doing paperwork.

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-Oh, you would say that now, wouldn't you?

-Oh, look, come on. You're an intelligent man.

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You must see that you're being unfair.

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This is where you apologise.

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I have no intention of apologising.

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I am more convinced than ever that there is something seriously amiss with this practice.

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Right, well, I am sorry that you feel that way,

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but we are about to open for afternoon surgery.

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So I think it is time that you left us.

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Oh, no. I'm staying right here.

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I'm going to canvass more patients for their opinions on this place.

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Er, thank you, doctors. If you will return to work.

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You know where I am.

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Shall I call Sergeant Hollins, Mrs Tembe?

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No, that will not be necessary.

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You are very welcome to stay as long as you like.

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But please, do not impinge on our patients' confidentiality.

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I wouldn't dream of it.

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Can I have that word, please, Mrs Tembe?

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Yes. Yes, of course.

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DOOR OPENS

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How did it go?

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Like day five on the Titanic.

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SHE SIGHS

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Look, I'm really sorry about all of that.

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It is not your fault.

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It is mine for inviting him here today,

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although I did not have very much choice.

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So, what did you want to ask me?

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Oh, yeah, um, it's about this poster campaign.

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I'm not really happy about the way they've got my image

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plastered all over the place, without actually giving me the opportunity to speak about...

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I appreciate you had a genuine motive for agreeing to take part.

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But you agreed for them to publish your image,

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whichever way they see fit.

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Did I? Don't remember reading that bit of the release form.

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I may have a possible solution.

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The poster has generated a lot of interest.

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And D-Verse Online have contacted me about doing an interview with you.

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Right.

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Look, I'm not really sure I want to be a part of anything...

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You said you wanted to get your message out there.

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Well, this might be a possible solution.

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I guess so. Thanks, Mrs Tembe.

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DOOR OPENS

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Oh, hello. You must be here for Dr Carter's drop-in clinic.

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Well, you know that because you...

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Yeah, um... If you wouldn't mind taking a seat. Um...

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-What are you...?

-Thank you!

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Very good. You been here long?

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I've been here all day. The staff are atrocious.

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Are they?

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Take that harpy, for example.

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Symptomatic of everything that's wrong with this place -

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uncaring, incompetent, awash with mistakes.

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And they have the gall to take public money

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-and throw it down the drain. If you ask me...

-Let me...stop you there.

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Because I've been coming to this surgery for well over a decade now

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and I have never seen any of the things that you are now describing.

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They may make the odd mistake, but don't we all?

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It's a good place, run by good people.

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So maybe the problem is yours, and not theirs.

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-It's got nothing to do with me.

-See, you point a finger at someone,

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and there's three pointing back at you.

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Rob, shall we?

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Oh, yeah. The harpy - it's my wife.

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Did he mention he's a police officer?

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So, er...how are you doing?

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Well, I'm only here because Karen wanted me to come.

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You don't think you need to?

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Well, I still find it difficult to talk about this stuff.

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How are you getting on with the anti-depressants?

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Well, I think they're calming down the flashbacks, but I'm having side-effects.

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-Such as?

-Mood swings, hot flushes, tears.

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I mean, this morning, I bit Karen's head off

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and nearly cried over a ham sandwich.

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Don't ask. I think I prefer the flashbacks.

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To be truthful, I don't think I'm really getting any better.

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I need to see Dr Reid again, please.

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She's with a patient, I'm afraid.

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It's kind of urgent. Is there any way...?

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Oh, hello again. Back for more torture?

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Sorry?

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Are you OK? You look...

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Miss Goldman, what are you doing back here?

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I went to St Phil's, like you said, and they ran loads of tests

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and said they wanted to admit me, but I had to wait.

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Oh, typical NHS!

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I couldn't face it.

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I'm too busy to sit around, waiting for someone to tell me I need to calm down and relax.

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This can't be happening to me again. It just can't! Oh, God!

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-Heather, what's wrong?

-My head...

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-Right. Does the light hurt your eyes?

-Oh, it's agony!

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-OK, Jeremy, can you give me a hand?

-Of course.

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-Can you call an ambulance?

-Yes, sure.

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Is it another aneurysm?

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Let's not worry about that now. Let's just get you comfortable.

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Well, perhaps Miss Goldman would like to use my office.

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-It is dark in there.

-Thank you, Mrs Tembe.

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-Will I be OK?

-You're going to be absolutely fine.

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-Don't worry.

-Ambulance is on its way. Ten minutes.

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-You see?

-Will you come with me?

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-If that's what you want.

-I do.

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OK. That should ease the pain a little.

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I haven't got time for this.

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You need to get treated.

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St Phil's will give you the best possible care.

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When I had the aneurysm before,

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they said the chances of recurrence were slim. Could this be a mistake?

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AMBULANCE SIREN WAILS

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You said yourself. This place...

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Maybe you've misdiagnosed me.

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I haven't.

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I was wrong...about this place.

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I've been here all day and I've seen how seriously they take patient care and how diligent they are.

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I know it's scary, but you have to trust them.

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You'll be OK. I know it. KNOCK ON DOOR

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-Ambulance has just pulled up. I'll show them straight in.

-I'll come and brief them.

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I'm scared.

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-Is there anyone I can call? A partner or family?

-There's no-one.

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Can Dr Reid come with me?

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Well, I'm...I'm so sorry. She has...

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I'll come with you. You can't go through this alone.

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I did talk you through possible side-effects. Why didn't you come back to me?

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Because I was worried you would say that the drugs weren't working

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and that I should try therapy again.

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I thought the support group was working.

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-I lied. I haven't been going.

-You told me you were.

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I know, Heston, I know! And I'm sorry about that, OK?

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I went once. I walked into a room full of ex-servicemen

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who had all, or nearly all, lost limbs

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and had seen their mates been blown apart.

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They're real heroes and that's real trauma. I felt like a fraud.

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So I left, and I didn't go back.

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Trauma is trauma. I think they would have been very sympathetic.

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Well, I don't. I think they would have laughed me out of the room. And I wouldn't blame them for it.

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I'll follow in my car, I promise.

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We will check on your progress, Miss Goldman.

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And it was good that you were here in her hour of need.

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I should go.

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Mr Ibbotson, what you said inside, about us - what changed your mind?

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I used to have a girlfriend called Laura.

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We'd only been seeing each other for a few months before she found the lump.

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I don't know which doctor she saw when she was here because I didn't come with her.

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I never came with her. I was always too busy.

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After she died, I blamed this place and your colleagues.

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Convinced myself that you were shoddy or that you'd missed

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the initial signs or something - anything but face the truth.

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You were not to blame.

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That is the real reason why I...I wanted you to come today.

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You knew about Laura and me?

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Of course. I did my research.

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I just hoped, by being here, that you would...that you would

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come to terms with what happened and realise you did the best you could.

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We all do, every day.

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It is all we can do.

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I'm sorry. For everything.

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It stops now.

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Well, thank you.

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That's the first time I've spoken about Laura. To anyone.

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It is good to talk, no matter how painful.

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-I'd better go. I want to be there for Heather.

-All right.

-Thank you, Mrs Tembe.

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No, thank you, Mr Ibbotson.

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Oh, I forgot my sketch pad, inside.

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Oh, right. Well, I will get it for you.

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Keep it. The last one was for you, anyway.

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-Is that you?

-Hm.

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-Heston.

-Hm.

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Is that supposed to be me?

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I do not look like a clown!

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Well, if that's you, then...that's me as a harpy.

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Well, I'm not sure Heston's going to find the Pinocchio reference appropriate.

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Well, I'd rather Pinocchio than some lying politician.

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Perhaps you should all go home. It is over now.

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Hm.

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Oh.

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The Mill Hero Centre. I like that.

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There must be something else I can do.

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Well, your psychiatrist suggested two anti-depressants.

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We could try the other one,

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but there really is no substitute for therapy.

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Hmm. I thought you'd say that.

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I mean, seriously, there must be

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another way I can deal with it, without talking about it.

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Brilliant!

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Would you like me to find you a new group?

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Oh, I don't know.

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Well, what if I came with you?

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We want something more permanent.

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The simplest option would be for Michael to get the snip.

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I have a patient who is considering a procedure

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based on false information.

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Don't go there, Emma. No-one will thank you for it.

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You're taking away his opportunity to have a child with somebody else,

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and because of that...

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You can't say any of this to him. Confidentiality.

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