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PHONE VIBRATES | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Hiya. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
Hey. How's my girl? | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
I've been waiting. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Yeah, sorry. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
Had some stuff to sort out. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
What about you? Back home? | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Yeah. Dodged the school bus and doubled back. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Classic. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
I'll be right over. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
Hey, better get yourself ready, babe. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
We're on. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
Who's that now? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Hi. It's Dr Clay! The receptionist called about a home visit. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Sergeant Hollins. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Hello, mate? How are you? How's dispatch treating you? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
I was covering him, while he was on a break. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Was it me you were after? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
No! No! Let go of me! | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Calm it down in there. Somebody get him a cup of tea. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
No! Not till you get 'em off me! | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
What was that?! | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
She's got a problem with something on the internet? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
And am I the only person who can deal with this? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
No, I'm joking, put her through. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
I don't give a stuff! | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
Hello, Sergeant Hollins, Letherbridge Police Station. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
How can I help? | 0:01:56 | 0:01:57 | |
Hello? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
Hello? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:03 | |
Hey, here she is! Lovely Leia, ready and waiting! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Looking the business, by the way. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
-PHONE RINGS -It just slipped my mind. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
Too much life in the fast lane. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
As long as I'm not interrupting anything. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
No, no, it's fine. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
And so's the knee. No complaints. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Good to know, although slow and steady wins the day | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
with an arthroscopy. How are you coping? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Have you got someone coming in to sort out meals and help out? | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
Oh, I can't be doing with all that. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
Fussing and faffing about when they don't know you from a bar of soap. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Hm. What about family? Anyone nearby? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
No. I'll be fine on my own. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Good. Well, I'm glad to see that it's healing. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I would give it a while longer, rest it for a few weeks. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Weeks? I'll be stir crazy at this rate. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
Anyway, thanks for coming. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
I'd best get on. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Don't mind me, it might be urgent. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
No. Probably just some call centre. Or kids. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
Right, if I may, I'll just use your bathroom, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
then I'll leave you in peace. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Upstairs, first on the left. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
What's happening, people! | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
It's your man with a plan, Predator from Peeee Geeee. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
We're coming at ya, from location on the build up to the big one! | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Now, listen. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Make sure you keep those comments coming in cos you know | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
we love to hear from you! And make sure you're subscribed | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
so you don't miss out on the main event! | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
We are livestreaming, straight to your living room, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
to your car, wherever you want it! | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
And we're joined by first-time co-star today, Leia! | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
Say hello. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:51 | |
Hi. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
How you feeling? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
Yeah, all right. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Yeah? Butterflies? | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Yeah, me too. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
Don't worry though, it's going to be mint! | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It's just, being recognised, mates, family seeing it. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
Look... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:10 | |
And once it's out there, it's forever, innit? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
No-one's going to recognise you. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
I'll blur your face out. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:22 | |
But you're going to be livestreaming... | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
Yeah, but that's just to get the punters in, innit? | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Make a bit of an event of the scenario. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Look, I promise, when I put them out online | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
I'll blur your face out, all right. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
Right, shall we do another one then? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
OK, Jack, see you next time. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I'm Izobel. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Yes, I know, love, it's very good value. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
But now you're here, maybe you should tell me your name. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Sorry, I have to go. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
The same girl as before? No, no, that's OK. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
Put her through. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Hello, Letherbridge Police. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
Hello? Not again. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Hello? I'm very sorry but it's been very noisy here today. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
But you've come this far, so it must be important. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
So why don't you tell me what's happened | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
and I'll try my very best to help you? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
I just don't know if you can. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Now, all you lot that are out there that have | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
been following my channel for a while, know the drill. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Always ensure you do your visual check, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
to make sure you've got the full Pee Gee kit on board. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
I'm talking laptops, I'm talking backup camera gear, mini-mics - | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
the lot! | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
Right, looks like we're ready to rock and roll! | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
And you lot are going to love this! | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
You don't have to tell me anything, if you don't want to. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
It just...sounded strange, that's all. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
It's not! | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
So what is it then? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Oh, all right. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
It's a few years back now. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
A girl having a birthday party or some such. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
And for a laugh, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
her mates decided to dial her name on the phone buttons. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
"Izobel". | 0:06:31 | 0:06:32 | |
Lo and behold, they got me. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
Anyway, they had their giggles and I thought I'd heard the last of it. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Then one of them called back later, wanting someone to talk to, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
to listen. So I thought, "Why not?" | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Anyway, word must have got round | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
because I started getting more calls, asking for Izobel. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
So, are they girls? Boys...? | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
Both. | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
I suppose mainly girls. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
And what do they want to talk about? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Oh, you know, this and that. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Teenage stuff, mostly. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
Such as...? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
It's confidential. They trust me. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
So what do you get out of it? | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
A reason to get up in the morning, I suppose. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
The days are longer than they used to be. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Ah, just in time. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
We've got them queueing up in there. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Great. You know I'm sure some of them wait before I'm home, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
before doing something dodgy. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
Speaking of which... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
-Yeah, go on. -Say I knew a guy. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
This a patient? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
All right, OK. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
This is a bloke that you heard about while betting on a dog, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
who has got absolutely nothing to do with your work in the medical field. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Well, this guy used to work in a secondary school. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Directly with the kids? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Not any more, I mean, he's retired now. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
But he seems to really still like talking to kids, teenagers mostly. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
I mean, they're teenagers now. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
How does he know these kids, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
are they from round about where he lives or are they grandkids? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Strangers on the phone. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
How does he do that? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:04 | |
Well, his number spells a name, I think | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
he's a bit of an urban legend with the kids. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
The kids just dial the name. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
And what does he talk about? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Don't know. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
So, this bloke that you've heard of. Does he ever meet up with them? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
Ah, no. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
He says no, but he's aware that it looks a bit suspect | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
and he admits that mostly they're girls. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
Kieran? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
Listen, you're going to have to focus in there, all right? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
-Otherwise... -I'm not sure I can. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
Course you can. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
I mean, do it. This. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
What? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:42 | |
-No, babe, listen. You... -I know. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
I thought I could. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
But we're all set up now. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
I've promised them a show! | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
Come on, we can't let them down. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
I've got 60,000 subscribers out there, waiting for us. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
-I don't give a stuff about them! -I know. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
I know you don't. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
All right, but they're just a means to an end. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
OK. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
And I know it seems like a big deal. Especially with that lot out there. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
But you're not actually doing anything, are you? | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
I know. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
I'm doing this for you, aren't I? | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
I'm doing it for us. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Cos I love you. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:21 | |
And believe me, when this is done and dusted, you're going to be buzzing. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
I promise. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
You trust me, don't you? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Right, then. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
Right, I'm sweating like a pig. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
I'm just going to use your bathroom, then we get on with it, yeah! | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
He seems harmless enough. Maybe he just likes the company. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
It does seem a bit weird | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
-Although, he doesn't sound like he's breaking any laws... -Yet. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Maybe you should have a word, suggest he stops. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
For his own good if anything else. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Holly? | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
Hello. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:08 | |
ENGAGED TONE | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
Is that Izobel? | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
The one and only! Who's that, then? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
It's Leia. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
Leia. Lovely name. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
Haven't chatted before, have we? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
No. My mate told me about you. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Ah. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:26 | |
You all right, love? You sound, I don't know... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
..upset. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
No. I mean, yeah. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
It's my boyfriend. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
Ah, really? | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
Keeps on about...doing stuff. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Stuff I don't want to. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
I dunno what to do. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
He'll be back here any minute. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Where's here? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
Home. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
What about your parents? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
No, everyone's out. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
I'm just really scared. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
You can't come, can you? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-You mean, to you? -Yeah. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
I know you don't know me or anything... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
I can't. I'm sorry, love. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
Can I come to yours, then? | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Please, I've got nowhere to go where he won't find me. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Uhh... | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
Just for a bit. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
I won't be any trouble. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:15 | |
I know it's a local number, so you can't be far. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
But I've gotta go now. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
How old are you, love? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:22 | |
15. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:26 | |
OK, if you want. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
Sorry, I feel so horrible doing this. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Take your time. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
Even thinking about it... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
It's like this thing hanging over me the whole time. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
Why don't you tell me how it started? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
I was in and out of care, all through school. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Mum was... | 0:11:52 | 0:11:53 | |
Anyway, there was this pervy old guy, wouldn't leave me alone. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:58 | |
He didn't do much, but he wanted to. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
Liked to get close, talk about it, every chance he got. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
I came out the other side. But still felt dirty... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
..angry. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
So then I'm ranting about it to...whoever, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
probably, "victim" stamped through me. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
And this other guy, he's actually listening to me. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
On my side. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
Knew all the right things to say. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
But he's the one...ended up taking the photos. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
And then dropping me cos I look too old! | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
These photographs on the internet, are they indecent or underage? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
No. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:48 | |
OK. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
So, why exactly have you come in today? | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Well, for help getting them taken down. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
And I've been keeping an eye out, you know, on what he's doing. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
And I'm worried he's at it again. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
With someone else. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
It's open! | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
-You wanted to see me? -Yeah. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
Some fella's taken these photographs of a young girl, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
put them on the internet and refuses to take them down. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
Oh, nice(!) | 0:13:31 | 0:13:32 | |
Now, they're not indecent as such, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
so there's not a great deal we can do. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
But he's blurred out her face, | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
so she can't even prove that it's her... | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
-So you're after something to help identify her? -Mm. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So how long you been doing this Izobel thing for, then? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
Quite a while now. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Like hearing the young voices. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
Takes me back. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Was a school caretaker for a long time, till I retired. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
Missed the kids, though. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
Dunno why. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Kids can be horrible. | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
Not to me. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
All that excitement, running around not a care in the world. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Unspoiled. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
So do you live on your own then? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:08 | |
I do now. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
The missus died a few years back. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
And you've had no-one else since? Why not? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Well... | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
then I wouldn't have the pleasure of your company, would I? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
What about you? Mum and Dad know you're here? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
What about this boyfriend? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
No. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
Don't worry, he won't find you here. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Now, I promised you a show! | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
And the show is on. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
Never let it be said that Peeee Geeee don't deliver, hey! | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
For those of you just tuning in, where the hell you been, mate?! | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
It's going to be amazing | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
and Leia is amazing. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Let's have a little catch up, shall we? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Previously on PaedoGrabber... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
Can I come to yours, then? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
Please, I've got nowhere to go where he won't find me. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Duh, right! Bet all his birthdays have come at once! | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Just for a bit. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
I won't be any trouble. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
I know it's a local number, so you can't be far. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
But I've gotta go now | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
How old are you, love? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
15. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
OK. If you want. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Told you she was amazing, didn't I? | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
And he took the bait. The dirty old git. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Don't worry though, PaedoGrabber is on him like a rash! | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Families can be hard work, can't they? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Yeah, I suppose. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
They're not around much. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
Always working. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Come on, Leia, just get on with it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
What about teachers, what are they like? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
All right. But I thought you wanted to know about my boyfriend? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Like what he wanted me to do and that? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Oh... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
You sure you want to tell me? It's a bit private, isn't it? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Well, yeah, course it is. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Tease him, go on. Give him a hint. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
You'd probably be well shocked, wouldn't you? All that dirty stuff. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
So you don't want to hear? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
I'm not sure I do. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Bet he does, the dirty old fibber. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
But I thought this was what you do, chat to girls and that. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
I chat to whoever calls | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
but they don't usually turn up on my doorstep. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
Maybe I shouldn't have come. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:20 | |
No! Just reel him in, all right! | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-If you don't want to know... -It's not that. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
It's not that, it's just I think you should relax, get comfy. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
Maybe have a look at some magazines I've got put away? | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Yes! Got him. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
What sort of mags? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Just something that might help you to see your troubles in a new light. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
I know it took a lot for her to work up to this. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Coming in. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
Not surprising, victimised twice. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
I'm amazed she's keeping it together. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
On the surface, yeah, but I'm sure she's pretty fragile underneath. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
It wouldn't take a lot to scare her off. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
Yeah, we'll go carefully. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
We'll start with a chat and a cup of tea | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
and then I'll draw the screen, suggest a little privacy. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
Probably wouldn't hurt | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
-to have a female face in there with you either. -Yeah. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Do you want to come this way, love? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
It's him! He has got another one! | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
ON LAPTOP: What sort of mags? | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
Just something that might help you | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
to see your own troubles in a new light. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
It's a live stream. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Got him! | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
So this is happening now? Any idea where they could be? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
I know where. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
-In here? -That's it. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
Look, I was thinking, maybe it's safe for me to go back now. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
You've only just got here. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I can't see. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:42 | |
Go on, they won't bite. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
Further in, at the back. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
There's something in them you might find interesting. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Surprise! | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
What on earth is going on? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
All right, "Izobel"? Got your number, ain't we? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
-Who are you? -I'm Predator, mate... | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
You can't just come busting in here. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
..and you are live on PaedoGrabber! | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Come and tell our subscribers what a dirty old perv you are. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
Our tenth, mind - should have got ourselves a cake or something! | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
-What? -Kieran... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
Come on, come on, tell us, why you thought it was OK to arrange | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
to meet what you thought was a 15-year-old girl in your house, eh? | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-I'm not standing for this! -You ain't going nowhere, mate. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Watch his dodgy leg! | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
I will if he don't try nothing, won't I? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
You're under citizen's arrest! Come, babe, keep filming. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
You're the boyfriend? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
He ain't got a clue, has he? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
It's a set up, mate! You're busted! | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-I dunno about this. Maybe we should go. -No! | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Look, I know it's a bit hectic at the moment, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
but you're doing brilliantly, babe, OK, this is the money shot! | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
This is how we get out subscribers and our donations. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
-I don't know... -Yes, you do! | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
You know how important this is. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
More than anyone. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
Look. If we don't stop these scumbags, who will? It's you and me. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
On the side of the angels. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:51 | |
But he could be just some old guy? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
No, he can't! | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
Look, I told you about he was chatting up the kids, didn't I? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-Who I got his number off? -Yeah, but... | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
Yeah, but I didn't tell you what he'd been saying, did I? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
All the dirty, nasty, things that he'd been saying to them. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
What more proof do you want? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
No, you don't! | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
No phone-a-friend for you, mate, if you've got any, that is! | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
It's Judgment Day! | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
Hopefully they won't try and argue | 0:19:15 | 0:19:16 | |
it's not you with your driving licence in shot. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Stupid. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
-Taking up your time, when you must have more important things... -No. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
I mean, it's a couple of pictures that don't even show much. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
And no-one knows it's me. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Except me. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:33 | |
It's understandable. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
It's like part of you being held hostage. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Have you thought about counselling, or support groups? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Oh, yeah! | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
Roll up to where all these people have real problems and tell them | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
all how I was too young and stupid to know any better, | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
how it's all my own fault. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:47 | |
No, it's not your fault. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
He knew you were young and he took advantage. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Unfortunately, you're not alone there. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
But I've done nothing wrong! | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
You're a dirty old perv and you know it! | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
You call yourself Izobel and chat up young girls. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Who knows how many you've been trying to get round here... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-I haven't! -..or what you've been trying to do to them! | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
I haven't done anything to them! | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
Yeah, well, you're going to admit it all now, aren't you? Nine... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Go ahead, I've nothing to hide. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Nine! We've been recording it all! From the phone call onwards! | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
You're stuffed, mate! OK. And what about all those dirty magazines | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
you were trying to get her to look at? | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
What's this? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:24 | |
They were my wife's. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
I just thought they might have some advice. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
How to deal with dodgy boyfriends. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
Not really my area. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
Hello, police! | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
That's cool. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
Must have been on their way round here for you, already, Izobel. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
But PaedoGrabber got you first, didn't he? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
-Are you OK, sir? -Yeah, I'm fine. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:41 | |
Go on, do your duty! | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Can you stop recording, please! | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
No, the people need to see this, and I've got a right to record. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Not while you're under arrest. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
What? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
I'm arresting you on suspicion of false imprisonment. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
-You what? -You don't have to say anything. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
But it may harm your defence if you don't mention | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
something which you later rely on in court. | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
Anything you say may be given in evidence. Do you understand? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
-Listen, he's the one you want, mate. He's a paedo! -I am not! | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
We will talk to Mr Fraser separately, | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
but that's a very serious accusation. Do you have any proof? | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Tell him! About the kids! | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
He's got proof that he's been chatting up kids on the phone, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
talking dirty and stuff ! | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
And do you have details? | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
What, do you want me to do your job for you now, and all? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
So you don't have any proof. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
We're just trying to do what's right. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
Stop people like him doing stuff to other kids. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
How old are you, love? | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
17. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
But he thought I was 15 before having me over! | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Yes, he did think you were 15. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Which is why he called Social Services, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
and told them a young girl was frightened of her older boyfriend. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
He called? | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Before even having me round? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
And are you? Frightened of your boyfriend? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
No. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:48 | |
We lied. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
So do you think I stand a chance? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Getting my pictures taken down? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:53 | |
Well, Sergeant Hollins reckons the big social media companies | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
usually comply. Just...sometimes slowly. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
Slow's OK. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
As long as I'm not being used as bait on his site any more. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
And I did that bloke in Oxford | 0:22:03 | 0:22:04 | |
who thought he was meeting a 13-year-old! | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-What about the one in Wolverhampton, did you see him? -Nope. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Listen, we're on the same side here, we're fighting for justice! | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
No, we're not. I'm a police officer who works within the law, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
you are just a video-vigilante. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
Yes, except I'm the only one doing anything about the scum, aren't I? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
If you really was on the side of justice | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
and you did have some evidence, you should hand it over to us. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Not exploit it on your seedy peepshow. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
You and your subscribers need to have a good long think | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
of why you're doing this. And if you do get convicted, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
then you will have a long time to think about it. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Because the judges take a dim view of false imprisonment. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Oh, yeah, this one's def getting uploaded. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
See how you like it, Clickbait. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
Holly. Holly, tell him! | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
Tell him I'm one of the good guys. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
The good guys?! You're not a good guy! | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
Babe, come on. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
I trusted you. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:46 | |
-This ain't the time here... -You've no idea what that meant, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
after everything I've been through! | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
But you lied. That we're "on the side of the angels". | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
That this is all for me | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
It is! | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
Something good, and clean, to wipe out all that. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
That he's one of them, some dirty old perv after kids, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
when all the time, you know he's not. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
We thought he was, I swear. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
When this is all just about you playing the big man | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
with your subscribers, and your donations, and your clicks. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
Using me, just like I was used before. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
And however many others you've used. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
I haven't! | 0:23:20 | 0:23:21 | |
Is that right? | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
I want to make a statement. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
About how he had me set up Mr Fraser. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
We're happy to oblige. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-Jack OK? -I think so. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
I think he's just a bit shaken up, that's all. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
-And harmless after all? -Yeah. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
Just a lonely old fella, stuck in his house, who wants to help. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
He called Social Services for her, bless him. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
I'll check on him later. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
Yeah. Our modern, internet world, eh? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
We know so much about everything, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
yet we don't know what to believe or who to trust. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
HE GROANS | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Hello. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Yeah. No, sorry. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
There's no Izobel here. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
He set up a fake site for Leia as well as Holly. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
His general MO was to use them to bait his targets. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Get them into a conversation with a fake 15-year-old, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
arrange a meet up and then out them on video. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
But this is the first time he put a girl in direct contact. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Lucky he turned out to be Jack. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
But because he streams live, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
some of his followers turned up at the Wolverhampton one. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Caused a bit of a punch up in a burger bar. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
But not any more, because Leia has served him up on a plate. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:49 | |
Places, times, unlocked his phone and his tablet. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
He was shaking in his boots, but he's promised to shut the lot down. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
Including Holly's page. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
That's a result. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
Shame it all landed on Jack in the process. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
He had his trust violated twice, first Leia and then me. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
Blowing his confidentiality. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
Oh, come on, it's a fine line | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
when we step in and when we don't. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
If you hadn't broken the confidentiality | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
it could have been a lot worse. Jack could have been hurt. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Maybe he has been. Emotionally. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
I mean, you want to stop bad things from happening, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
but you don't want to stop people from caring, do you? | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
There's not enough of that to go around in the first place. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
-How's Leia doing? -Same as you, I reckon. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Beating herself up because somebody else got victimised. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Because, like you, she cares. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
A chat might help, before she goes. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Yeah. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:35 | |
I just wanted to say thanks...for caring. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
And sorry. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
So, it was all lies? | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Not all of it. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 | |
But you'll be OK? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:07 | |
What about you? And Izobel? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Well, I think that's all over with, don't you, love? | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
People need that sometimes, though. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
Friendly ear. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
I did. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
Ended up calling Samaritans. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
They could probably do with all the help they can get. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
People they can trust. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Maybe I'll give them a call. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:33 | |
Oh! Let me help you up. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
I can manage. Thank you! | 0:26:44 | 0:26:45 | |
Is Valerie around? | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
No. 'Fraid not. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
Doctor. Come in. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:49 | |
Doctor, eh? | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
You can come and give me a look over if you fancy? | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
I've seen who you really are. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
You always did. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
No, you misunderstand me. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
I didn't like what I saw. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
We are not done here. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 |