Thomas Vaughan Jones Edwards ‹ Cyfres 2006

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-Do many of you recognise this place?	0:00:02	0:00:05
-I don't think so.	0:00:05	0:00:07
-I'm in the Montesquiou area...	0:00:07	0:00:09
-..in the south of France...	0:00:10	0:00:12
-..not far from the Spanish border.	0:00:12	0:00:15
-Perhaps that's why the weather's -so fine.	0:00:15	0:00:18
-I'm at Pis Farm...	0:00:18	0:00:20
-..the home of Thomas Vaughan Jones, -his wife Sally and their children.	0:00:20	0:00:25
-Thomas's roots are in the Bala area. -He's farmed in the Vale of Clwyd.	0:00:25	0:00:31
-Why did he come to France?	0:00:31	0:00:33
-You'll find out when I find him!	0:00:34	0:00:37
-He certainly lives in a lovely area.	0:00:37	0:00:40
-November 2006	0:00:57	0:01:00
-This field has been prepared.	0:01:08	0:01:10
-Will you be growing barley here, -or oats, or wheat, or what?	0:01:10	0:01:15
-Barley.	0:01:15	0:01:17
-Tell me, what are those -little buildings I can see?	0:01:18	0:01:22
-The little sheds?	0:01:23	0:01:24
-About 50 years ago, everyone -worked out in the fields...	0:01:25	0:01:29
-..and no-one had watches.	0:01:29	0:01:31
-A bell was rung in town at noon, -so everyone knew it was lunchtime...	0:01:31	0:01:37
-..and they sheltered from the sun -in these buildings.	0:01:37	0:01:40
-These fields were worked by hand, -the same as at home.	0:01:41	0:01:45
-There were lots of labourers.	0:01:45	0:01:47
-There aren't many hedges, -just crops.	0:01:48	0:01:51
-There aren't any animals -here at all.	0:01:51	0:01:54
-Not many animals.	0:01:54	0:01:55
-There isn't a boundary -between you and the road.	0:01:56	0:01:59
-In summer, the temperature -reaches 110 degrees...	0:02:00	0:02:03
-..so animals aren't generally -kept outside.	0:02:03	0:02:06
-Animals are kept inside most of the -time and fed on hay and silage.	0:02:06	0:02:12
-You have to grow things you can use -in order to make money.	0:02:12	0:02:17
-There are only a few hedges.	0:02:19	0:02:22
-Do you have to cut them regularly?	0:02:23	0:02:25
-The scheme I'm on -is similar to SSSIs at home...	0:02:25	0:02:29
-..and I cut them once a year.	0:02:30	0:02:32
-Roundup - no chance.	0:02:33	0:02:33
-Roundup - no chance. - -Why is this an SSSI?	0:02:33	0:02:34
-Why is this an SSSI?	0:02:34	0:02:35
-It looks like good grazing land.	0:02:36	0:02:38
-There are rare orchids -and things like that.	0:02:39	0:02:42
-The rules state that I can't graze -those fields or the hedges...	0:02:43	0:02:49
-..between April and September.	0:02:50	0:02:52
-I lose that grazing time.	0:02:52	0:02:54
-The trees are like trees in Wales - -oak trees.	0:02:57	0:03:01
-I've been cutting those -before the hedge cutters come.	0:03:01	0:03:05
-I want to put up an electric fence -from there to the bottom.	0:03:06	0:03:11
-I usually put up pig fencing...	0:03:12	0:03:14
-..but I have problems -with the wild boars that live here.	0:03:15	0:03:20
-They're about that big.	0:03:20	0:03:22
-They run at the pig fencing -and take down 50 or 60 metres.	0:03:22	0:03:28
-Do they eat acorns?	0:03:28	0:03:30
-Yes, they do.	0:03:30	0:03:31
-Also, with pig netting, -you put posts up in the winter...	0:03:33	0:03:37
-..put up the fence, pull it tight, -beautiful job.	0:03:37	0:03:41
-The following summer, -when it's 110 degrees...	0:03:41	0:03:44
-..the ground dries out and opens up -and the posts fall over...	0:03:46	0:03:51
-..and the pig netting's gone.	0:03:51	0:03:53
-So I'm putting electric fencing -over there.	0:03:54	0:03:58
-Are you allowed to kill badgers?	0:03:58	0:03:59
-Are you allowed to kill badgers? - -Yes, I've got permission...	0:03:59	0:04:00
-Yes, I've got permission...	0:04:00	0:04:01
-..during two months -of the year only.	0:04:01	0:04:04
-There are seasons -and they're strictly kept.	0:04:04	0:04:07
-During two months - -February and March, I think.	0:04:07	0:04:11
-I can kill them during two months.	0:04:11	0:04:12
-I can kill them during two months. - -So they're out of the way...	0:04:12	0:04:14
-So they're out of the way...	0:04:14	0:04:14
-..before cattle are let out.	0:04:15	0:04:15
-..before cattle are let out. - -I've got permission, here.	0:04:15	0:04:17
-I've got permission, here.	0:04:17	0:04:18
-If there's a problem, -you write to the Ministry...	0:04:18	0:04:22
-..and they tell you to carry on.	0:04:22	0:04:23
-..and they tell you to carry on. - -Really?!	0:04:23	0:04:25
-Really?!	0:04:25	0:04:25
-You must have relatives -working with the government!	0:04:25	0:04:29
-They look after you!	0:04:29	0:04:30
-They look after you! - -In France...	0:04:30	0:04:31
-In France...	0:04:31	0:04:31
-..lots of people -live in rural areas...	0:04:31	0:04:34
-..and there are lots of farmers, -more than in Britain.	0:04:35	0:04:39
-It's a very big country.	0:04:39	0:04:41
-There are many more farmers -and they have more muscle.	0:04:42	0:04:46
-Why did you come here?	0:05:01	0:05:04
-You're from the Vale of Clwyd -originally.	0:05:04	0:05:08
-Bala first, then the Vale of Clwyd.	0:05:08	0:05:10
-Bala first, then the Vale of Clwyd. - -I remember you in Llangynhafal.	0:05:10	0:05:11
-I remember you in Llangynhafal.	0:05:11	0:05:12
-You're from that area.	0:05:13	0:05:13
-You're from that area. - -Yes, Llanbedr.	0:05:13	0:05:14
-Yes, Llanbedr.	0:05:14	0:05:15
-Why did you and your family -move here?	0:05:16	0:05:20
-I had a small farm in Llanbedr...	0:05:20	0:05:23
-..with friends living next door -to me on both sides.	0:05:23	0:05:27
-Buying land there was difficult -and expensive...	0:05:27	0:05:30
-..very difficult.	0:05:31	0:05:32
-Yes, in the Vale of Clwyd. -Every acre is valuable.	0:05:32	0:05:37
-One year we went on holiday -to the north of France.	0:05:37	0:05:42
-We'd eat our evening meal -and then walk around town.	0:05:42	0:05:46
-I happened to see -an estate agent's office...	0:05:46	0:05:50
-..so I had a look.	0:05:50	0:05:52
-The houses were cheap.	0:05:53	0:05:54
-Ten acres, quite a good price.	0:05:55	0:05:58
-Twenty acres, quite a good price.	0:05:59	0:06:01
-So that's how it started.	0:06:02	0:06:04
-When you first came here, -you bought this place.	0:06:04	0:06:08
-How many acres do you have now?	0:06:08	0:06:10
-How many acres do you have now? - -130, here.	0:06:10	0:06:11
-130, here.	0:06:11	0:06:11
-Really?	0:06:12	0:06:13
-If you don't mind me asking...	0:06:13	0:06:16
-..how much per acre -would a place like this cost?	0:06:16	0:06:20
-You've got superb land.	0:06:21	0:06:21
-You've got superb land. - -I bought the place in 1998...	0:06:21	0:06:22
-I bought the place in 1998...	0:06:22	0:06:24
-..for 95,000.	0:06:25	0:06:26
-Euros?	0:06:28	0:06:29
-Euros? - -Pounds.	0:06:29	0:06:29
-Pounds.	0:06:29	0:06:30
-The same price as a small house -at home.	0:06:30	0:06:34
-95,000.	0:06:34	0:06:36
-95,000. - -Prices have gone up...	0:06:36	0:06:36
-Prices have gone up...	0:06:36	0:06:38
-..the same as at home.	0:06:38	0:06:40
-I have 60 acres on the plain, -with permission to irrigate.	0:06:41	0:06:45
-Those 60 acres -are worth a lot of money.	0:06:46	0:06:49
-I have about 20 acres of woodland.	0:06:50	0:06:53
-On the whole, it's quite good.	0:06:54	0:06:57
-I graze sheep and cattle.	0:06:58	0:07:00
-When you came here, you left -your family behind - your mother.	0:07:00	0:07:05
-Mam and Dad.	0:07:05	0:07:07
-Dad's in hospital in Dolgellau. -He's been ill for a long time.	0:07:07	0:07:12
-Mam still lives in Bala.	0:07:12	0:07:14
-One sister teaches in Liverpool...	0:07:14	0:07:17
-..and another sister -teaches in Warrington.	0:07:17	0:07:19
-My brother's a train driver - -third generation train driver.	0:07:20	0:07:23
-My father and grandfather -were train drivers.	0:07:24	0:07:27
-Great Western, the whole lot.	0:07:27	0:07:29
-Did you start farming -after leaving school?	0:07:29	0:07:32
-No. After school -I went to college in Chester.	0:07:32	0:07:36
-I was there for a year.	0:07:36	0:07:39
-I trained to be a PE teacher.	0:07:39	0:07:42
-I was PE mad.	0:07:42	0:07:44
-After a year, my friends -were working and making money...	0:07:44	0:07:49
-..and I was a bit depressed.	0:07:49	0:07:51
-Back then, you received grants -but they weren't much.	0:07:51	0:07:55
-70 per term or something similar.	0:07:56	0:07:59
-Weren't you a runner at one time?	0:07:59	0:08:01
-Weren't you a runner at one time? - -I tried.	0:08:01	0:08:02
-I tried.	0:08:02	0:08:03
-Tell us what you did.	0:08:03	0:08:05
-When I was in school in Bala...	0:08:06	0:08:09
-..I represented Wales -at cross-country running.	0:08:09	0:08:12
-I won the 1,500 metres -in the schools championships...	0:08:12	0:08:17
-..in Aberystwyth.	0:08:18	0:08:19
-Aberystwyth?	0:08:20	0:08:21
-Yes, in Aberystwyth in 1975, -I think.	0:08:21	0:08:24
-I was in school at that time too!	0:08:25	0:08:28
-I also ran at college, -when I was in Chester.	0:08:28	0:08:32
-I ran a mile in three minutes -and 57.9 seconds.	0:08:32	0:08:37
-I must comment on your hens.	0:08:37	0:08:40
-Yes, they're out.	0:08:40	0:08:41
-I'm fattening them.	0:08:42	0:08:43
-They're for eating.	0:08:43	0:08:45
-They're special - -they can weigh up to 5kg.	0:08:47	0:08:51
-How many children do you have?	0:08:51	0:08:52
-How many children do you have? - -Five children.	0:08:52	0:08:53
-How many children do you have?	0:08:53	0:08:53
-Really? You obviously -get some leisure time, then!	0:08:54	0:08:57
-The family allowance is good!	0:08:57	0:08:59
-What are they? Boys, girls?	0:09:00	0:09:02
-Four boys and one girl.	0:09:03	0:09:05
-How are they doing, -now that they're growing up?	0:09:06	0:09:10
-Your eldest is about 18, isn't he?	0:09:10	0:09:12
-Your eldest is about 18, isn't he? - -He was 18 two weeks ago.	0:09:12	0:09:13
-He was 18 two weeks ago.	0:09:13	0:09:14
-What do they do?	0:09:15	0:09:17
-What do they do? - -He's a self-employed carpenter.	0:09:17	0:09:17
-He's a self-employed carpenter.	0:09:17	0:09:19
-He's just returned -after six months in Australia.	0:09:20	0:09:23
-He was out there working -and playing rugby.	0:09:23	0:09:27
-Do they all play rugby?	0:09:27	0:09:28
-Do they all play rugby? - -Yes, they all play rugby...	0:09:28	0:09:29
-Yes, they all play rugby...	0:09:29	0:09:30
-..for the same club - -quite a big club in town.	0:09:30	0:09:34
-Rugby is popular here.	0:09:34	0:09:36
-Yes.	0:09:36	0:09:38
-Farming, rugby and hunting.	0:09:38	0:09:41
-And eating!	0:09:42	0:09:43
-And eating! - -Amen!	0:09:43	0:09:43
-Amen!	0:09:43	0:09:45
-It's true!	0:09:46	0:09:48
-At noon, the bell rings -and everyone stops to eat.	0:09:48	0:09:52
-Three or four courses -and red wine too.	0:09:52	0:09:56
-In the evening, at seven o'clock, -the cafes are full.	0:09:56	0:10:00
-Half-past seven - they're empty.	0:10:00	0:10:02
-Do you know why?	0:10:03	0:10:04
-It's time to eat.	0:10:05	0:10:06
-French farmers are no different -from British farmers.	0:10:10	0:10:13
-They have to diversify...	0:10:13	0:10:15
-..as Vaughan and his wife Sally -have done.	0:10:15	0:10:19
-As has happened in Wales...	0:10:19	0:10:21
-..they've adapted old farm buildings -and old houses to create homes.	0:10:21	0:10:26
-Is this the old, run-down house -that you bought?	0:10:29	0:10:34
-Yes. I bought it last year.	0:10:34	0:10:36
-We've been working on it -for nearly a year.	0:10:36	0:10:40
-My wife is the brain behind -the project and I'm the muscle...	0:10:42	0:10:47
-..and our son -is the skilled workforce!	0:10:47	0:10:50
-Are there buyers interested in it?	0:10:51	0:10:53
-There's been a lot of interest.	0:10:53	0:10:56
-We received an offer last week, -so we have our fingers crossed.	0:10:56	0:11:01
-It's in the middle of the village.	0:11:01	0:11:04
-There are shops and a restaurant -nearby, a garage next door.	0:11:05	0:11:09
-What was this originally?	0:11:09	0:11:12
-A cattle market.	0:11:12	0:11:14
-From the '50s, I think, -until the '70s.	0:11:14	0:11:17
-There are photos -showing the place full of cattle.	0:11:17	0:11:22
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-I've come to the small town -of Lannemezan...	0:11:40	0:11:43
-..at the foot of the Pyrenees...	0:11:43	0:11:46
-..to visit the sheep market.	0:11:46	0:11:48
-It's different from any other -sheep market I've been to.	0:11:48	0:11:53
-I can't understand people talking, -for a start.	0:11:53	0:11:56
-There's no auctioneer - -sales are made face to face.	0:11:56	0:12:00
-All these people are smiling, -so things must be working well.	0:12:01	0:12:05
-Vaughan is looking for a bargain -to take home.	0:12:05	0:12:09
-Those men in black coats are buyers, -are they?	0:12:36	0:12:40
-Can anyone buy?	0:12:41	0:12:42
-That's right, yes.	0:12:44	0:12:45
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:12:52	0:12:54
-Soixante-quinze euro.	0:13:05	0:13:07
-This man knows L E Jones -and everyone else.	0:13:12	0:13:16
-They buy here too.	0:13:16	0:13:18
-HE SPEAKS FRENCH	0:13:21	0:13:23
-Did you sell?	0:13:53	0:13:54
-Did you sell? - -Yes.	0:13:54	0:13:55
-Yes.	0:13:55	0:13:55
-Yes.	0:13:56	0:13:57
-That was extremely slick!	0:13:57	0:13:59
-A bit of this and a bit of that!	0:13:59	0:14:02
-A bit of this and a bit of that! - -Does he have to pay...?	0:14:02	0:14:04
-With a big buyer like him, -there'll be a cheque and a bill.	0:14:05	0:14:10
-They pay after the sale.	0:14:10	0:14:12
-That was very slick selling!	0:14:16	0:14:18
-You know, when you think -of the old drovers back in Wales...	0:14:18	0:14:22
-..look how neatly -these men do their hair!	0:14:22	0:14:26
-They take time -over their appearance!	0:14:26	0:14:29
-It doesn't all go smoothly -for everyone.	0:14:31	0:14:34
-Some arrive late.	0:14:35	0:14:37
-Some can't strike a bargain.	0:14:43	0:14:45
-And as for others - well... !	0:14:47	0:14:50
-He says 38kg, -but the buyer says 25kg!	0:14:50	0:14:53
-They'll have to weigh them.	0:14:54	0:14:56
-He says he weighed them -before he came.	0:14:57	0:15:00
-They're not 38kg.	0:15:01	0:15:01
-They're not 38kg. - -They're in good condition, though.	0:15:01	0:15:02
-They're in good condition, though.	0:15:02	0:15:04
-26kg to 28kg, I'd say.	0:15:04	0:15:06
-These small ones won't fetch much.	0:15:06	0:15:09
-58 euros for them all - -the whole lot.	0:15:09	0:15:12
-How much is that? 40?	0:15:13	0:15:15
-How much is that? 40? - -58 euros...	0:15:15	0:15:15
-58 euros...	0:15:15	0:15:16
-58 euros...	0:15:18	0:15:20
-You have to use that?	0:15:21	0:15:23
-You have to use that? - -Let's see.	0:15:23	0:15:23
-Let's see.	0:15:23	0:15:24
-58 euros - that's 41.	0:15:26	0:15:28
-That's right.	0:15:30	0:15:32
-Right?	0:15:32	0:15:34
-They're only small - about 15kg.	0:15:34	0:15:36
-If our boys got 41 for lambs -like those, they'd be laughing.	0:15:36	0:15:41
-Are these going to Spain -for slaughter?	0:15:42	0:15:45
-Yes, lambs for slaughter.	0:15:45	0:15:47
-Why do they want such small lambs -in Spain?	0:15:47	0:15:51
-Do they eat them whole?!	0:15:51	0:15:51
-Do they eat them whole?! - -They serve them whole...	0:15:51	0:15:53
-Do they eat them whole?!	0:15:53	0:15:54
-..in restaurants, on a spit.	0:15:54	0:15:55
-..in restaurants, on a spit.	0:15:55	0:15:56
-Every week in Lannemezan, -a street market is held...	0:16:18	0:16:22
-..where all kinds of things -are sold.	0:16:22	0:16:25
-Air travel security restrictions...	0:16:26	0:16:28
-..meant I couldn't bring my stick -with me.	0:16:28	0:16:32
-I was lost without it.	0:16:32	0:16:35
-There are some over there.	0:16:36	0:16:37
-There are some over there. - -I should have borrowed a fence pole!	0:16:37	0:16:38
-I should have borrowed a fence pole!	0:16:38	0:16:40
-These look good.	0:16:40	0:16:42
-Would you like to try them?	0:16:42	0:16:43
-Would you like to try them? - -They're quite long.	0:16:43	0:16:45
-That would do. It's long enough.	0:16:47	0:16:48
-That would do. It's long enough. - -Is it too long?	0:16:48	0:16:49
-Is it too long?	0:16:49	0:16:50
-A bit.	0:16:50	0:16:52
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:16:52	0:16:54
-How much is it?	0:16:56	0:16:57
-How much is it? - -Six euros.	0:16:57	0:16:57
-Six euros.	0:16:57	0:16:58
-Six euros. What's that in pounds?	0:16:58	0:17:00
-Six euros. What's that in pounds? - -3 or so.	0:17:00	0:17:01
-3 or so.	0:17:01	0:17:02
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:17:02	0:17:04
-Five euros...	0:17:08	0:17:10
-..five euros, for you.	0:17:10	0:17:12
-Five euros? Oh.	0:17:12	0:17:14
-Thanks very much!	0:17:17	0:17:19
-There, I'm sorted!	0:17:19	0:17:20
-I'm lost without a stick - -I can't even think!	0:17:21	0:17:24
-Shall we move on?	0:17:24	0:17:26
-What fish is that?	0:17:36	0:17:38
-A trout.	0:17:38	0:17:39
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:17:42	0:17:43
-You speak the language well.	0:17:59	0:18:01
-I try!	0:18:02	0:18:02
-I try! - -How long have you been here?	0:18:02	0:18:03
-How long have you been here?	0:18:03	0:18:05
-Six years... no, eight years.	0:18:06	0:18:08
-Time flies.	0:18:09	0:18:10
-Time flies. - -You've learned the language well.	0:18:10	0:18:10
-You've learned the language well.	0:18:10	0:18:12
-They sell everything here.	0:18:12	0:18:14
-Potatoes.	0:18:14	0:18:15
-Potatoes. - -Everything. Onions.	0:18:15	0:18:16
-Everything. Onions.	0:18:16	0:18:16
-Lots of cheeses.	0:18:17	0:18:18
-They sell ewe's milk cheese here.	0:18:18	0:18:21
-I think it's expensive.	0:18:22	0:18:23
-18 euros a kilo.	0:18:24	0:18:25
-9 a kilo, more or less. 10.	0:18:26	0:18:29
-10 a kilo. That's expensive.	0:18:29	0:18:31
-You retain some characteristics -of the Vale of Clwyd!	0:18:32	0:18:36
-You take note of the prices!	0:18:37	0:18:40
-Yes, one must be careful!	0:18:40	0:18:42
-Look at those carrots, -We've got better carrots at home.	0:18:43	0:18:48
-They're poor.	0:18:48	0:18:49
-They're poor. - -Yes. We've got better carrots.	0:18:49	0:18:49
-Yes. We've got better carrots.	0:18:49	0:18:51
-The smells are making me hungry.	0:18:51	0:18:54
-A meat stall. -You can't beat meat!	0:18:55	0:18:58
-All kinds of pig products.	0:18:58	0:19:01
-That's horse meat!	0:19:01	0:19:02
-Have you ever eaten horse meat?	0:19:02	0:19:03
-Have you ever eaten horse meat? - -Yes, several times.	0:19:03	0:19:05
-Have you ever eaten horse meat?	0:19:05	0:19:05
-I've eaten it once.	0:19:05	0:19:07
-I found it too sweet.	0:19:07	0:19:08
-I found it too sweet. - -Yes, it is rather sweet.	0:19:08	0:19:09
-Yes, it is rather sweet.	0:19:09	0:19:10
-A bit sweet, but lovely.	0:19:10	0:19:13
-The smells tell you the food's good.	0:19:18	0:19:21
-It's hot too - made this morning.	0:19:22	0:19:24
-That's a lovely flan.	0:19:24	0:19:26
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:19:26	0:19:28
-It smells good.	0:19:36	0:19:37
-It smells good. - -Extremely good.	0:19:37	0:19:37
-Extremely good.	0:19:37	0:19:38
-Do you knock their prices down -every week?!	0:19:40	0:19:44
-I haven't had breakfast yet!	0:19:44	0:19:46
-This is lunch and that's breakfast!	0:19:46	0:19:47
-This is lunch and that's breakfast! - -There's no point setting a price...	0:19:47	0:19:49
-There's no point setting a price...	0:19:49	0:19:49
-..because you haggle!	0:19:50	0:19:51
-THEY SPEAK FRENCH	0:19:52	0:19:53
-She looks like she could be Welsh.	0:19:55	0:19:58
-Yes, same type.	0:19:58	0:20:00
-They're very nice people.	0:20:00	0:20:02
-Merci beaucoup.	0:20:05	0:20:06
-Hard work, fresh air and good food.	0:20:29	0:20:33
-They're all an intrinsic part -of life in this area.	0:20:33	0:20:38
-They're also very keen -on playing rugby.	0:20:40	0:20:44
-They start playing -at a very young age...	0:20:44	0:20:48
-..and that's true -of Vaughan and Sally's sons.	0:20:48	0:20:51
-Rugby is a big thing here.	0:20:54	0:20:56
-Very big. It's almost a religion.	0:20:57	0:21:00
-From children who start before -they're six, right up to seniors.	0:21:01	0:21:05
-They're all here together today.	0:21:06	0:21:08
-All the professional players -at the rugby club...	0:21:09	0:21:12
-..have to come here every Wednesday -to teach the children.	0:21:12	0:21:17
-They teach the children.	0:21:18	0:21:19
-The professional players -have to do this?	0:21:20	0:21:23
-That's right. All of them.	0:21:23	0:21:26
-That guy over there -is an ex-professional.	0:21:26	0:21:30
-All of them put something back -into the club.	0:21:30	0:21:34
-They finish with the club -but they come back to teach.	0:21:34	0:21:39
-There are usually -200 to 250 children...	0:21:39	0:21:42
-..playing here each Wednesday.	0:21:42	0:21:44
-It's a good place to play...	0:21:44	0:21:47
-..and there's a harness racing track -around the perimeter.	0:21:47	0:21:51
-Yes, harness racing.	0:21:51	0:21:52
-Yes, harness racing. - -This is the hippodrome in... Auch.	0:21:52	0:21:52
-This is the hippodrome in... Auch.	0:21:52	0:21:54
-Pronounced "Osh"!	0:21:54	0:21:56
-I'll get it right eventually!	0:21:56	0:21:58
-I've called it "Och" and "Ouch"!	0:21:59	0:22:01
-I know her too - -she's a dinner lady at the school.	0:22:02	0:22:07
-The boys who play rugby -are given more food than the others!	0:22:07	0:22:12
-They're brought up with rugby, -aren't they?	0:22:14	0:22:17
-Yes, and it's full contact, -not touch-tackle like at home.	0:22:17	0:22:22
-They start with full tackling -before they're six.	0:22:22	0:22:26
-Some of them, like my children, -live 20km away...	0:22:27	0:22:30
-..so it's quite a large -catchment area.	0:22:33	0:22:36
-They don't just know children -from the town...	0:22:36	0:22:39
-..but from the wider area too.	0:22:39	0:22:42
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-You can see half of France -from here!	0:23:02	0:23:05
-Is it mostly sheep you keep up here?	0:23:06	0:23:10
-And lower down.	0:23:10	0:23:11
-And lower down. - -But they graze up here too?	0:23:11	0:23:11
-But they graze up here too?	0:23:11	0:23:13
-Yes.	0:23:14	0:23:15
-What happens is...	0:23:15	0:23:17
-..this area dries up in the sun.	0:23:18	0:23:21
-Yes.	0:23:21	0:23:22
-Marvellous views.	0:23:25	0:23:27
-Those fields -right down the bottom...	0:23:27	0:23:30
-..I cut them all for hay -before the end of May.	0:23:30	0:23:35
-Before the end of May.	0:23:35	0:23:37
-I leave them about a month -and then I put sheep in there.	0:23:37	0:23:43
-Do you fatten lambs on that grass, -or do you use a creep?	0:23:43	0:23:48
-No, everything gets fattened -indoors. That's what's wanted.	0:23:49	0:23:52
-I have technicians who come round.	0:23:52	0:23:55
-They want rose meat, -not red meat like we get at home.	0:23:55	0:24:00
-What breed of sheep do you keep?	0:24:01	0:24:04
-Purebreds, they call them BMC. -Blonde du Massif Central.	0:24:04	0:24:09
-You've heard about Blonde cattle?	0:24:09	0:24:12
-These are the sheep -you find in this area.	0:24:13	0:24:17
-Do you cross them with Texels?	0:24:17	0:24:18
-Do you cross them with Texels? - -Yes. They produce a lot of milk.	0:24:18	0:24:21
-I cross them with Texels -so I get the best of both worlds.	0:24:21	0:24:26
-Do you keep female lambs?	0:24:27	0:24:27
-Do you keep female lambs? - -The first cross.	0:24:27	0:24:29
-The first cross.	0:24:29	0:24:29
-My flock is small so I have to -change my ram every three years.	0:24:29	0:24:35
-How many sheep do you have?	0:24:35	0:24:38
-Over the course of a year, -on average, 200 to 220.	0:24:38	0:24:43
-But the number's reduced in summer, -because of the hot weather.	0:24:43	0:24:48
-I sell some of them -until I have 150 over the summer.	0:24:48	0:24:53
-By Christmas, I increase the numbers -to 220 or maybe 300.	0:24:53	0:24:58
-I buy in 50 in-lambers.	0:24:58	0:25:01
-40, 50, 60, depending on the price.	0:25:01	0:25:04
-Is that your livelihood?	0:25:04	0:25:06
-You have 130 acres of land.	0:25:06	0:25:09
-Something like that.	0:25:09	0:25:11
-Is that your stock? -250 to 300 sheep?	0:25:11	0:25:14
-That's all.	0:25:14	0:25:16
-Can you live on that?	0:25:16	0:25:18
-Can you live on that? - -We try.	0:25:18	0:25:18
-We try.	0:25:18	0:25:19
-We also have houses in town. -We renovate houses and sell them.	0:25:19	0:25:24
-Are there any subsidies -you can claim here in France?	0:25:24	0:25:29
-Subsidies for what?	0:25:29	0:25:31
-For farming.	0:25:31	0:25:32
-EEC subsidies -are the same as you get at home.	0:25:33	0:25:37
-We've started on all farm payments.	0:25:37	0:25:40
-Here, with sheep and cattle, -it's split.	0:25:40	0:25:43
-You get 50% all farm payment -and 50% depending on headage.	0:25:43	0:25:48
-So this year I get something like -21 or 22 euros lowland payment...	0:25:48	0:25:54
-Per head?	0:25:54	0:25:55
-Per head? - -Per head, headage.	0:25:55	0:25:56
-Per head, headage.	0:25:56	0:25:57
-And I get an LFA top-up - -this area is an LFA.	0:25:57	0:26:02
-I get a top-up of about seven -or eight, so it comes to 30 euros.	0:26:02	0:26:08
-We have the Tir Cymen -and Tir Cynnal schemes...	0:26:09	0:26:13
-..and grants for fencing and -improving your farm's appearance...	0:26:13	0:26:17
-..and conservation is a big thing.	0:26:17	0:26:19
-Whatever's going, I get it.	0:26:20	0:26:22
-That's the Vale of Clwyd -coming out in you again!	0:26:22	0:26:26
-You can't keep more than -a certain number of animals, though.	0:26:26	0:26:31
-No. I'm restricted to 6.6 sheep -per hectare - two and a half acres.	0:26:32	0:26:37
-That's two to the acre.	0:26:37	0:26:39
-It's not a lot.	0:26:40	0:26:41
-That's how it was in Wales -50 years ago.	0:26:42	0:26:45
-At this time of the year it looks -lovely, there's plenty of grass.	0:26:46	0:26:51
-Looking at your farm, -it's a good farm.	0:26:51	0:26:55
-Maybe it gets hot -on the upper slopes.	0:26:55	0:26:58
-But you have land lower down too.	0:26:59	0:27:01
-But you have land lower down too. - -It's fine lower down.	0:27:01	0:27:02
-It's fine lower down.	0:27:02	0:27:03
-Do you have to buy hay or silage?	0:27:04	0:27:07
-Just some hay. Not a lot.	0:27:07	0:27:10
-I make about 200 big bales a year, -and maybe 1,500 small bales.	0:27:10	0:27:15
-That's every year.	0:27:17	0:27:18
-I start feeding hay to the sheep -in September.	0:27:18	0:27:23
-If it's sunny and dry, -I start with the hay.	0:27:24	0:27:28
-Do you apply lime to the soil?	0:27:28	0:27:31
-I have done, right at the start.	0:27:32	0:27:34
-I have done, right at the start. - -You have to use lime.	0:27:34	0:27:35
-You have to use lime.	0:27:35	0:27:36
-Are you allowed to apply nitrogen -as you see fit?	0:27:36	0:27:41
-No, the use of nitrogen -is restricted.	0:27:41	0:27:44
-Life is quite enjoyable here, -isn't it?	0:27:44	0:27:47
-People aren't so impatient.	0:27:47	0:27:49
-No.	0:27:49	0:27:51
-Here, if a field -comes up for sale...	0:27:51	0:27:55
-..the seller comes to me and asks if -I'd like to buy the field next door.	0:27:55	0:28:01
-If I say no, he says, -"It doesn't matter."	0:28:01	0:28:05
-But at home, if the field next door -comes up for sale...	0:28:05	0:28:11
-..a war breaks out to buy it!	0:28:11	0:28:14
-You're right - it's like a war!	0:28:14	0:28:17
-No-one here -has heard of land auctions.	0:28:18	0:28:21
-Remind me again - if I wanted -to buy good fields like those...	0:28:22	0:28:27
-..how much per acre or per hectare -would it cost?	0:28:27	0:28:31
-Those fields?	0:28:32	0:28:33
-It's good land, grade one arable.	0:28:34	0:28:37
-There's also an irrigation system -in the fields across the river.	0:28:38	0:28:42
-Something like 3,000 euros -per hectare.	0:28:42	0:28:45
-That's about...	0:28:46	0:28:47
-That's something like 1,000 -an acre.	0:28:47	0:28:50
-And that's the best land.	0:28:51	0:28:51
-And that's the best land. - -Fantastic.	0:28:51	0:28:53
-Fantastic.	0:28:53	0:28:53
-And it includes irrigation.	0:28:53	0:28:55
-The Almighty looks after that -back home!	0:28:56	0:28:59
-This kind of land, -where we're standing...	0:29:00	0:29:03
-..you can buy this kind of land -for 400.	0:29:03	0:29:07
-I must say, -you're in a lovely place.	0:29:07	0:29:11
-It's a lovely place to live.	0:29:12	0:29:15
-Yes, it's lovely.	0:29:15	0:29:17
-Everything's at a slower pace.	0:29:17	0:29:19
-You phone someone up - -"Oh, tomorrow."	0:29:20	0:29:23
-Tomorrow or next week!	0:29:23	0:29:25
-It's lovely!	0:29:26	0:29:27
-Here are your sheep.	0:29:47	0:29:49
-The Texel stands out quite clearly -in some of them.	0:29:49	0:29:53
-Do you shear them once a year?	0:29:54	0:29:55
-Do you shear them once a year? - -Once a year.	0:29:55	0:29:57
-Is there a market here for wool?	0:29:57	0:29:59
-Is there a market here for wool? - -No. We burn it.	0:29:59	0:30:00
-No. We burn it.	0:30:00	0:30:01
-Really?	0:30:01	0:30:02
-Do you do the shearing yourself?	0:30:03	0:30:05
-Do you do the shearing yourself? - -Me and my mate.	0:30:05	0:30:05
-Me and my mate.	0:30:05	0:30:06
-But you don't get anything -for the wool.	0:30:08	0:30:11
-Nothing at all.	0:30:11	0:30:13
-Every year I burn the lot -on November 5 - Bonfire Night.	0:30:13	0:30:18
-Wool isn't the easiest thing -to burn.	0:30:18	0:30:21
-Well, you use a little diesel.	0:30:22	0:30:25
-We're not allowed to burn anything -back home.	0:30:25	0:30:29
-Here, we're allowed to burn stuff -after September.	0:30:30	0:30:33
-Before September - no chance.	0:30:34	0:30:35
-It's too dry - -everything would go up in flames.	0:30:36	0:30:39
-Do the sheep suffer from diseases -like footrot?	0:30:40	0:30:43
-Is it a problem for you?	0:30:44	0:30:46
-Well, you have to be careful.	0:30:47	0:30:49
-In summer, we get thunderstorms.	0:30:49	0:30:52
-They're terrible - -they go on for half an hour...	0:30:52	0:30:56
-..and everywhere gets soaked.	0:30:56	0:30:58
-Half an hour later, -it's 110 degrees.	0:30:58	0:31:01
-So they get mud in their feet, -which is dry an hour later.	0:31:02	0:31:07
-You have to be careful - -it can cause footrot.	0:31:07	0:31:11
-I bring all the sheep in -once a fortnight and check them.	0:31:11	0:31:16
-Do you clean their feet?	0:31:17	0:31:18
-Do you clean their feet? - -Not all of them.	0:31:18	0:31:19
-Not all of them.	0:31:19	0:31:20
-The ground's full of clay.	0:31:20	0:31:22
-You can see where we brought the car -down through that sludge.	0:31:22	0:31:27
-It dries hard.	0:31:27	0:31:28
-It dries hard. - -Yes, that's what happens.	0:31:28	0:31:29
-Yes, that's what happens.	0:31:29	0:31:30
-Is fluke a problem, -like it is at home?	0:31:30	0:31:34
-At home, -snails are a host for fluke.	0:31:34	0:31:37
-Here, we get the lesser liver fluke.	0:31:39	0:31:42
-Ants are the host -for lesser liver fluke.	0:31:42	0:31:45
-There's not much food for them -in summer.	0:31:45	0:31:49
-Ants?	0:31:49	0:31:50
-Ants? - -Yes.	0:31:50	0:31:50
-Yes.	0:31:50	0:31:51
-That's what they get here - -lesser liver fluke.	0:31:52	0:31:55
-You have to be careful.	0:31:55	0:31:57
-Do you dose the sheep?	0:31:58	0:31:58
-Do you dose the sheep? - -Yes, twice a year...	0:31:58	0:32:00
-Yes, twice a year...	0:32:00	0:32:00
-..a month before lambing -and then again in summer.	0:32:00	0:32:05
-I dose the lambs that are outside...	0:32:06	0:32:08
-..every six weeks or so.	0:32:10	0:32:12
-..every six weeks or so. - -Same as we do.	0:32:12	0:32:15
-How do you buy sheep?	0:32:15	0:32:17
-You said you buy 50 sheep.	0:32:17	0:32:20
-Are they advertised in a paper?	0:32:20	0:32:23
-I buy in-lambs through a paper.	0:32:23	0:32:27
-There are registered breeders.	0:32:27	0:32:29
-There's one not far from here, -others are further away.	0:32:29	0:32:33
-I buy from them too.	0:32:33	0:32:35
-If you're buying purebreds, -there are subsidies available.	0:32:35	0:32:39
-You get... for 18-month-old sheep, -you get 30 back for each one.	0:32:41	0:32:47
-You pay something like 70, 80...	0:32:48	0:32:51
-..and you get 30 back -from the government.	0:32:52	0:32:55
-The aim is to improve stock.	0:32:55	0:32:58
-I see.	0:32:58	0:33:00
-Do they loan you money too?	0:33:00	0:33:02
-When you're starting off, -as a young farmer...	0:33:03	0:33:06
-..up to three times...	0:33:06	0:33:09
-..you can receive an interest-free -loan to buy up to 350 head.	0:33:10	0:33:15
-And you can buy three times?	0:33:16	0:33:19
-Three times.	0:33:19	0:33:20
-Three times. - -Three years, in other words.	0:33:20	0:33:21
-Three years, in other words.	0:33:21	0:33:22
-That's right. -You can buy about 1,000 sheep.	0:33:22	0:33:26
-And with these loans, -for young farmers...	0:33:26	0:33:29
-..it's interest-free credit.	0:33:30	0:33:31
-You get interest-free credit -for five years...	0:33:32	0:33:35
-..and you don't pay anything -for the first two years.	0:33:35	0:33:39
-So you get seven years -to pay off the loan.	0:33:40	0:33:44
-Exactly how close to heaven -are you?!	0:33:44	0:33:47
-That's what I think, too!	0:33:47	0:33:50
-It's a lot of help.	0:33:50	0:33:52
-Agricultural methods in general -are the same as they are in Wales.	0:34:15	0:34:20
-But the weather is a lot milder.	0:34:20	0:34:23
-Of course, -some things are different.	0:34:24	0:34:27
-For example, cattle -spend more time indoors.	0:34:28	0:34:31
-The poultry are similar -to what you see in Wales.	0:34:32	0:34:36
-But some things are different.	0:34:42	0:34:44
-Vaughan showed me -some of these differences.	0:34:44	0:34:47
-This is drying corn.	0:34:47	0:34:49
-Is this ground down to feed cattle?	0:34:49	0:34:52
-Yes. It's dried in these cages...	0:34:53	0:34:55
-..and then ground to provide food -for cattle and hens.	0:34:56	0:35:00
-They're sold, too, -at the end of the year.	0:35:01	0:35:05
-It's high up off the floor -to stop mice from getting to it.	0:35:05	0:35:11
-It's quite high too.	0:35:11	0:35:13
-I'm not exactly sure, but I've got -something like 100 acres of maize.	0:35:13	0:35:19
-It takes a lot.	0:35:20	0:35:21
-It takes a lot. - -How many cattle does that feed?	0:35:21	0:35:22
-How many cattle does that feed?	0:35:22	0:35:23
-135, on this farm.	0:35:23	0:35:25
-Looking at them from afar...	0:35:28	0:35:30
-..I thought they were Charolais.	0:35:30	0:35:31
-..I thought they were Charolais. - -No, they're Blonde d'Aquitaine...	0:35:31	0:35:32
-No, they're Blonde d'Aquitaine...	0:35:32	0:35:33
-..purebred.	0:35:34	0:35:34
-..purebred. - -They're on silage.	0:35:34	0:35:35
-They're on silage.	0:35:35	0:35:36
-Are they kept in at night?	0:35:36	0:35:39
-They're fed in the morning -and then they go out all day...	0:35:39	0:35:44
-..and they're brought in at night.	0:35:44	0:35:47
-Was the silage -produced on this land?	0:35:47	0:35:50
-Is the land ploughed -fairly regularly?	0:35:50	0:35:53
-The farmer's keen - he re-seeds -every field every two years.	0:35:54	0:35:58
-Re-seed, re-seed.	0:35:59	0:36:00
-Is it just him and his son?	0:36:00	0:36:03
-Is it just him and his son? - -Yes, he and his son work the farm.	0:36:03	0:36:03
-Yes, he and his son work the farm.	0:36:03	0:36:06
-When they're busy in summer, -they call me to come and help.	0:36:06	0:36:11
-Baling, usually.	0:36:12	0:36:13
-Do you do any contract work?	0:36:14	0:36:16
-Not contract work.	0:36:16	0:36:18
-I do a day here and there.	0:36:18	0:36:21
-The money isn't much - pocket money -for the weekend, maybe.	0:36:21	0:36:25
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-Is this your village?	0:37:05	0:37:07
-It's a small village.	0:37:08	0:37:09
-About 700 people live here.	0:37:10	0:37:12
-Does it have a post office?	0:37:13	0:37:15
-Does it have a post office? - -Yes. It has nearly everything.	0:37:15	0:37:16
-Yes. It has nearly everything.	0:37:16	0:37:17
-A shop, post office, restaurant...	0:37:17	0:37:18
-A shop, post office, restaurant... - -And a hotel.	0:37:18	0:37:19
-And a hotel.	0:37:19	0:37:20
-Yes, the hotel's behind you.	0:37:20	0:37:22
-Yes, the hotel's behind you. - -This is a busy little place.	0:37:22	0:37:23
-This is a busy little place.	0:37:23	0:37:24
-It's the mayor's office.	0:37:25	0:37:26
-In France, -the mayor is your top man.	0:37:27	0:37:30
-He's called the Chef.	0:37:31	0:37:33
-The mayor's involved in everything.	0:37:33	0:37:36
-Is this the school -your children attend?	0:37:38	0:37:41
-That's right.	0:37:42	0:37:44
-One of my sons goes there. -There he is, look.	0:37:44	0:37:48
-In the red shirt.	0:37:49	0:37:49
-In the red shirt. - -They're taking photographs today.	0:37:49	0:37:50
-They're taking photographs today.	0:37:50	0:37:51
-How many children go there?	0:37:51	0:37:53
-How many children go there? - -About 50.	0:37:53	0:37:54
-About 50.	0:37:54	0:37:55
-There used to be about 100.	0:37:56	0:37:59
-They've lost a teacher.	0:38:00	0:38:02
-The same happens at home.	0:38:02	0:38:04
-Pupil numbers go down -and schools lose teachers.	0:38:04	0:38:08
-A BELL RINGS	0:38:08	0:38:09
-Is this the village square?	0:38:12	0:38:14
-Is this the village square? - -Yes.	0:38:14	0:38:14
-Yes.	0:38:14	0:38:15
-A chateau used to stand here, -before the Revolution.	0:38:15	0:38:19
-It was pulled down -after the Revolution.	0:38:19	0:38:22
-It's a busy little village.	0:38:22	0:38:24
-The village is extremely busy -in the morning.	0:38:25	0:38:29
-People gather for a chat and so on.	0:38:29	0:38:32
-It's very busy in the morning.	0:38:33	0:38:35
-Everyone goes for lunch at noon.	0:38:35	0:38:38
-After lunch, it's siesta time.	0:38:38	0:38:40
-I've said it before - -we should do the same at home...	0:38:40	0:38:45
-..this siesta business!	0:38:45	0:38:47
-Everyone can sleep after lunch...	0:38:47	0:38:49
-..but not everyone -can sleep at night!	0:38:50	0:38:53
-They start work early.	0:38:53	0:38:54
-They start work early. - -Children start school early too.	0:38:54	0:38:55
-Children start school early too.	0:38:55	0:38:56
-Yes, they start at 8.00am.	0:38:57	0:38:59
-Your wife said as they get older, -school ends later in the evening.	0:38:59	0:39:04
-Yes, it's nearly 6.00pm -by the time they get home.	0:39:05	0:39:09
-Children at the maternelle, or -nursery school, have a siesta too.	0:39:09	0:39:14
-Small children.	0:39:14	0:39:16
-Don't children go to school -full-time...	0:39:16	0:39:19
-..when they're two and a half?	0:39:19	0:39:21
-..when they're two and a half? - -Yes...	0:39:21	0:39:22
-Yes...	0:39:22	0:39:22
-..but they get time off -on Wednesdays.	0:39:23	0:39:26
-They're in school four days a week, -from 8.00am to 5.30pm.	0:39:26	0:39:31
-There's a war memorial -like you see in Welsh villages.	0:39:34	0:39:38
-People here had a hard time -during the war.	0:39:39	0:39:43
-Auch, ten miles away, -had a particularly bad time.	0:39:43	0:39:47
-The local community in Gers -in the south of France...	0:40:01	0:40:05
-..has accepted the family.	0:40:06	0:40:07
-There's a proverb that says, -"A friend nearby...	0:40:08	0:40:11
-..is better than a brother -far away."	0:40:11	0:40:14
-HE SPEAKS FRENCH TO THE DOG	0:40:14	0:40:18
-This farmer's grass is excellent.	0:40:22	0:40:25
-Plenty of food.	0:40:25	0:40:27
-Those sheep are Berrichons, -aren't they?	0:40:27	0:40:30
-Does he specialise in Berrichons?	0:40:30	0:40:33
-He's a breeder.	0:40:33	0:40:36
-They're all pedigrees.	0:40:36	0:40:38
-He buys AI.	0:40:38	0:40:41
-He uses insemination.	0:40:41	0:40:43
-In September.	0:40:43	0:40:45
-But he's put a ram among them now -to use as a sweeper.	0:40:45	0:40:50
-Look at this grass.	0:40:51	0:40:52
-You couldn't use any machinery -on this land, it's no good.	0:40:53	0:40:57
-But it's fine for sheep.	0:40:57	0:40:59
-It's a lovely spot.	0:41:00	0:41:01
-There's shelter.	0:41:02	0:41:02
-There's shelter. - -It's fantastic.	0:41:02	0:41:03
-It's fantastic.	0:41:03	0:41:04
-There's enough shelter for lambing.	0:41:05	0:41:06
-There's enough shelter for lambing. - -Does he bring them in for lambing?	0:41:06	0:41:07
-Does he bring them in for lambing?	0:41:07	0:41:09
-Well, it's down to money.	0:41:09	0:41:11
-They're worth a lot of money, -so he brings them in.	0:41:11	0:41:16
-You met this gentleman -while hunting, did you?	0:41:16	0:41:20
-Yes.	0:41:20	0:41:21
-He's my best friend here in France.	0:41:22	0:41:25
-My first friend too.	0:41:25	0:41:27
-HE CALLS IN FRENCH TO THE DOG	0:41:27	0:41:30
-He seems to be quite a character.	0:41:32	0:41:35
-He's got excellent dogs.	0:41:35	0:41:37
-Good sheepdogs, good hunting dogs, -good fox terriers...	0:41:38	0:41:42
-..good sheep.	0:41:42	0:41:44
-He's a great man.	0:41:44	0:41:45
-He's a great man. - -He's a specialist.	0:41:45	0:41:45
-He's a specialist.	0:41:45	0:41:46
-You can tell -by looking at his animals.	0:41:46	0:41:49
-It's worth coming here -just to see his dog working.	0:41:49	0:41:53
-That dog's father -came from the Ruthin area!	0:41:54	0:41:57
-From Bodfari? -He mentioned Glyn Jones.	0:41:57	0:42:00
-Glyn sells his dogs everywhere.	0:42:00	0:42:03
-We're far from Bodfari now!	0:42:03	0:42:05
-He has a video tape of Glyn Jones -working his sheepdogs.	0:42:05	0:42:10
-He phoned me up -and asked if I knew him.	0:42:10	0:42:14
-He lived next door to me -near Llanbedr.	0:42:15	0:42:18
-"Could you buy a dog for me?"	0:42:18	0:42:21
-I phoned Glyn Jones, went over -and brought a dog back for him.	0:42:22	0:42:27
-One of his terriers -comes from Llanbedr too.	0:42:27	0:42:30
-Yes, one of the Jack Russells -comes from Llanbedr.	0:42:31	0:42:34
-I'm not the only one from Wales -in this area!	0:42:35	0:42:39
-How much do they weigh?	0:42:46	0:42:48
-These ram lambs -are about eight months old.	0:42:48	0:42:51
-The biggest are eight months old.	0:42:52	0:42:54
-They weigh up to 90kg.	0:42:55	0:42:56
-They weigh up to 90kg. - -He has good rams. A good length.	0:42:56	0:42:57
-He has good rams. A good length.	0:42:57	0:42:59
-I think he feeds them cake.	0:42:59	0:43:01
-HE SPEAKS FRENCH	0:43:02	0:43:03
-Oh, oats and...	0:43:04	0:43:05
-Oh, oats and... - -Maize.	0:43:05	0:43:05
-Maize.	0:43:05	0:43:06
-Oats, maize and...	0:43:07	0:43:09
-..barley.	0:43:11	0:43:12
-It's healthier than anything else.	0:43:14	0:43:16
-HE SPEAKS FRENCH	0:43:16	0:43:18
-It's all grown here.	0:43:18	0:43:20
-The whole lot.	0:43:20	0:43:22
-Do you give them minerals or cake -or anything like that...?	0:43:22	0:43:27
-He's French!	0:43:27	0:43:29
-He's French!	0:43:29	0:43:30
-You're doing well, fair play.	0:43:34	0:43:36
-The neighbours are excellent -and France is a lovely country.	0:43:42	0:43:47
-People have time to talk and laugh.	0:43:47	0:43:50
-The cattle couldn't be finer.	0:43:50	0:43:53
-Many farms keep a lot of geese.	0:43:54	0:43:57
-You never see them in Wales -these days.	0:43:58	0:44:01
-The villages still retain -their old, familiar character...	0:44:04	0:44:08
-..and the machinery too, at times.	0:44:09	0:44:11
-Food and mealtimes -are very important to French people.	0:44:14	0:44:19
-A siren sounds -when it's time to eat...	0:44:20	0:44:23
-..and they eat, siren or not.	0:44:24	0:44:26
-How many farmers' wives in this area -work every day?	0:44:26	0:44:31
-It's hard to tell.	0:44:32	0:44:34
-I'm not sure how many -work outside the farm.	0:44:34	0:44:37
-But many of them work -with their husbands.	0:44:38	0:44:41
-In Wales, it's common for -farmers' wives to teach in schools.	0:44:41	0:44:46
-No, they usually...	0:44:46	0:44:47
-No, they usually... - -Lots of young wives...	0:44:47	0:44:48
-Lots of young wives...	0:44:48	0:44:49
-Here, they usually stay at home.	0:44:49	0:44:52
-They stay home -and look after the children...	0:44:52	0:44:55
-..and they help out on the farm.	0:44:56	0:44:59
-This is good.	0:45:00	0:45:02
-Reasonably priced too.	0:45:02	0:45:04
-When you first came here...	0:45:04	0:45:06
-..had you seen it advertised...	0:45:07	0:45:09
-..in a paper or something?	0:45:10	0:45:11
-..in a paper or something? - -I made a phone call...	0:45:11	0:45:13
-..to the Ministry of Agriculture -here...	0:45:13	0:45:16
-..asking if there was anything -for sale to young farmers.	0:45:16	0:45:21
-They sent some details and that's -how I started looking around.	0:45:21	0:45:26
-Did your neighbours welcome you?	0:45:26	0:45:28
-You were foreigners, after all.	0:45:28	0:45:30
-You were foreigners, after all. - -The man next door...	0:45:30	0:45:31
-The man next door...	0:45:31	0:45:33
-..after a fortnight, -he wanted to buy the place.	0:45:33	0:45:37
-But a fortnight -after we moved to France...	0:45:37	0:45:40
-..he knocked on the door...	0:45:41	0:45:43
-..and said, "No hard feelings, -good luck to you."	0:45:43	0:45:47
-Farmers are a sociable group -and hunting's very important.	0:45:48	0:45:52
-You hunt together.	0:45:52	0:45:53
-You hunt together. - -I took my fox terriers for a walk...	0:45:53	0:45:54
-I took my fox terriers for a walk...	0:45:54	0:45:56
-..and someone saw them...	0:45:57	0:45:58
-..and that same night someone called -and invited me to come to hunt.	0:45:58	0:46:04
-On my first hunt...	0:46:04	0:46:06
-..the only French word I knew -was the word for 'hole' - 'trou'.	0:46:06	0:46:11
-I had terriers, -and I said, "Trou, trou, trou!"	0:46:11	0:46:15
-Terriers in the trou - in the hole!	0:46:16	0:46:19
-That's how it started!	0:46:19	0:46:20
-It was fun.	0:46:21	0:46:22
-France has its priorities right.	0:46:32	0:46:35
-Farms must make a profit -and be a place to raise a family.	0:46:38	0:46:43
-Was it easy for Vaughan and Sally -to move their family to France?	0:46:46	0:46:51
-Or was it a difficult process?	0:46:51	0:46:52
-Or was it a difficult process? - -It was easy.	0:46:52	0:46:54
-Or was it a difficult process?	0:46:54	0:46:54
-It was easy.	0:46:54	0:46:56
-We got a handout to buy stock.	0:46:56	0:46:59
-You get interest-free loans -for seven years.	0:46:59	0:47:03
-I think it was a handout of 30,000 -to buy stock to start off.	0:47:03	0:47:09
-This is a great help, Sally.	0:47:09	0:47:12
-The banks are on your side.	0:47:12	0:47:13
-The banks are on your side. - -Yes, definitely.	0:47:13	0:47:14
-Yes, definitely.	0:47:14	0:47:15
-If you have a degree in agriculture, -or been to college, is that a help?	0:47:15	0:47:21
-Definitely.	0:47:22	0:47:23
-You don't even need to have -such good qualifications as that.	0:47:23	0:47:28
-Any basic young farmer's -qualification is sufficient.	0:47:28	0:47:31
-Something like an NVQ.	0:47:32	0:47:34
-Anything like that - -anything on paper...	0:47:34	0:47:37
-..from a college - Coleg Llysfasi, -or Glynllifon or wherever.	0:47:37	0:47:41
-Did the fact that you had children -help you when borrowing money?	0:47:42	0:47:47
-Don't they take children -into account?	0:47:47	0:47:50
-Yes, and they help -on the farm too.	0:47:51	0:47:54
-There's a good family allowance -if you live on a farm.	0:47:55	0:47:59
-Excellent.	0:48:00	0:48:00
-Excellent. - -Tell us more, tell us more!	0:48:00	0:48:01
-Tell us more, tell us more!	0:48:01	0:48:03
-The more you have, the more you get.	0:48:03	0:48:06
-They compensate you -for staying at home.	0:48:06	0:48:09
-They like mothers to stay at home -until the children are three...	0:48:09	0:48:14
-..and you get extra family allowance -for that...	0:48:14	0:48:17
-..which is better than somebody else -bringing up your children.	0:48:18	0:48:22
-You get help for them going back -to school - for clothes, books, etc.	0:48:22	0:48:28
-Sally, how easy was it to come here -and get established?	0:48:28	0:48:33
-It was time-consuming, -trying to get everything in place...	0:48:33	0:48:37
-..to be able to make a serious offer -and move here.	0:48:37	0:48:41
-We were told at one time -"You haven't got a chance,"...	0:48:42	0:48:46
-..because someone local wanted it.	0:48:46	0:48:48
-It went before a local committee -to decide who'd get the farm.	0:48:48	0:48:53
-How did it come into your... ?	0:48:54	0:48:56
-How did it come into your... ? - -Because we had the children...	0:48:56	0:48:57
-Because we had the children...	0:48:57	0:48:58
-..and they felt -we would be more beneficial...	0:48:58	0:49:02
-..supporting local schools -and living as a proper family...	0:49:02	0:49:06
-..and that the farm would stay -as one and not split up...	0:49:06	0:49:11
-..which they liked.	0:49:11	0:49:12
-A young family making a new life -for themselves in France.	0:49:20	0:49:24
-And who could blame them?	0:49:25	0:49:27
-One thing's for sure...	0:49:28	0:49:30
-..rural Wales and Welsh rugby -are poorer without them.	0:49:30	0:49:34
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