Tom Evans, Gwanas ‹ Cyfres 2006

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-I'm making my way up from one of -Wales's most well-known valleys...	0:00:19	0:00:24
-..Cwm Hafod Oer in Meirionnydd.	0:00:25	0:00:27
-I'm on my way to Gwanas Farm.	0:00:27	0:00:30
-Tom Gwanas's name...	0:00:31	0:00:33
-..and indeed the name Gwanas itself -is familiar to everyone.	0:00:33	0:00:37
-I'm looking forward -to seeing these hills.	0:00:37	0:00:40
-Tom and his brother Trebor -tell me they've worked hard here.	0:00:41	0:00:45
-# CAN YR ARAD GOCH # -Piano Introduction	0:00:46	0:00:49
-# If you'd like to know -how a man like me lives,	0:00:50	0:00:55
-# From my father, -I learned mankind's first craft,	0:00:57	0:01:03
-# I learned how to turn a bog -into a fertile green meadow,	0:01:06	0:01:11
-# To turn a bare wilderness -into green earth. #	0:01:11	0:01:17
-The enchanting voice of Tom Gwanas.	0:01:19	0:01:21
-This voice has won two Blue Ribands.	0:01:22	0:01:25
-Tom has lived at Gwanas Farm -in Meirionnydd all his life.	0:01:25	0:01:29
-His family is very musical...	0:01:30	0:01:32
-..and it has also produced -excellent hill farmers.	0:01:32	0:01:36
-# I follow the red plough -on the great mountain. #	0:01:36	0:01:42
-# But the ancient language -still lives on,	0:01:42	0:01:46
-# And the ancient songs endure,	0:01:46	0:01:51
-# But the ancient language -still lives on. #	0:01:52	0:01:59
-Dic Pennal always said, -when we passed this way...	0:02:03	0:02:06
-.."Old Gwanas is a big place."	0:02:07	0:02:09
-He was right, too. -What a place you've got here!	0:02:09	0:02:13
-I don't have many fields lower down, -mind you.	0:02:13	0:02:17
-Most of them are up here.	0:02:17	0:02:18
-Most of them are up here. - -How far up do you go?	0:02:18	0:02:19
-How far up do you go?	0:02:19	0:02:21
-Right up to the summit.	0:02:21	0:02:24
-There's a dip -like a small valley over there.	0:02:24	0:02:28
-Yes. That part's called -Ceunant y Gigfran.	0:02:28	0:02:31
-You don't do any lambing -up here do you?	0:02:31	0:02:35
-Oh, yes. -Lambing takes place up here.	0:02:35	0:02:38
-That's where a bike comes in handy.	0:02:38	0:02:40
-That's where a bike comes in handy. - -You've got sheep up here...	0:02:40	0:02:41
-You've got sheep up here...	0:02:41	0:02:42
-..and I've seen cattle too.	0:02:42	0:02:44
-You graze cattle up here too.	0:02:45	0:02:45
-You graze cattle up here too. - -Yes, they come up here.	0:02:45	0:02:47
-Yes, they come up here.	0:02:47	0:02:48
-It's time for them to go in though. -It's wet.	0:02:48	0:02:52
-This old soil has endured very well.	0:02:53	0:02:56
-Yes.	0:02:56	0:02:57
-It's difficult for you -to improve the soil on the slopes...	0:02:58	0:03:02
-..but there are some -nice green spots in places.	0:03:02	0:03:06
-A year ago, I got a helicopter -to spray the bracken.	0:03:06	0:03:11
-It did a very good job.	0:03:11	0:03:12
-It did a very good job. - -Expensive, though...	0:03:12	0:03:14
-It did a very good job.	0:03:14	0:03:14
-..but what else can you do?	0:03:14	0:03:14
-..but what else can you do?	0:03:14	0:03:16
-There'd be nothing for animals -to eat otherwise.	0:03:16	0:03:20
-Is this where your roots are?	0:03:20	0:03:23
-Didn't your father -come from Cwm Hafod Oer?	0:03:23	0:03:27
-Yes, lower down there.	0:03:27	0:03:29
-What about your mother?	0:03:29	0:03:30
-What about your mother? - -She came from just over the ridge.	0:03:30	0:03:30
-She came from just over the ridge.	0:03:30	0:03:32
-Looking for shelter, was she?!	0:03:33	0:03:35
-There was a well-worn path here -before they married!	0:03:35	0:03:39
-I can't think of a bleaker name -than Cwm Hafod Oer.	0:03:40	0:03:45
-This valley is very bare.	0:03:46	0:03:49
-There aren't many trees.	0:03:49	0:03:51
-Very few trees.	0:03:51	0:03:52
-That's how it's always been.	0:03:53	0:03:55
-But there are some trees -growing here now.	0:03:55	0:03:58
-How far does your land extend?	0:03:58	0:04:00
-How far does your land extend? - -As far as the Dinas road...	0:04:00	0:04:01
-As far as the Dinas road...	0:04:01	0:04:02
-..up to Pen y Bwlch.	0:04:02	0:04:05
-You live between Bwlch yr Oerddrws -and Cwm Hafod Oer...	0:04:06	0:04:10
-..you need two overcoats!	0:04:10	0:04:12
-And thermals!	0:04:14	0:04:15
-This is the first time -I've seen this view.	0:04:18	0:04:22
-It's a lovely view, isn't it?	0:04:23	0:04:26
-Do these fields have names?	0:04:26	0:04:28
-I sincerely hope people don't forget -the Welsh names given to fields.	0:04:28	0:04:32
-Yes. Sons should be told.	0:04:33	0:04:35
-It's so important. -Names are better than numbers.	0:04:35	0:04:39
-I know the names -of most of these fields.	0:04:39	0:04:43
-That's Foel Caerynwch over there.	0:04:43	0:04:45
-The small house down there -is called Tyddyn Llwyn.	0:04:46	0:04:50
-It's amazing how much land -there is up here.	0:04:52	0:04:56
-Did farmers work together up here?	0:04:56	0:04:58
-Did farmers work together up here? - -Yes, we used to help each other.	0:04:58	0:04:58
-Yes, we used to help each other.	0:04:58	0:05:01
-Shearing was done at Gwanas.	0:05:02	0:05:04
-Sheep had to brought over -from Mynydd Bylan.	0:05:04	0:05:07
-We had to walk up the moors -all the way to the top.	0:05:07	0:05:14
-That's not the best land -for walking!	0:05:15	0:05:18
-Walking in those conditions -is exhausting.	0:05:18	0:05:21
-Do you have any land -on the other side?	0:05:21	0:05:25
-Not much.	0:05:25	0:05:27
-There's Mynydd Bylan, Mynydd -Tyddyn Du, Mynydd Hafod Oer...	0:05:27	0:05:31
-..and Mynydd Cefn Naw Clawdd, -in the distance.	0:05:31	0:05:35
-An outsider would be amazed that -you can remember all the names...	0:05:36	0:05:41
-..but they're a part of you.	0:05:41	0:05:44
-Moments like these -can stir your blood.	0:05:53	0:05:56
-Tom is fortunate to have a son, -Geraint, to follow him.	0:05:57	0:06:02
-He likes sheep but he's particularly -interested in cattle.	0:06:02	0:06:06
-This is a fairly new breed - -the Stabiliser.	0:06:06	0:06:10
-The weather's very changeable, -isn't it?	0:06:21	0:06:24
-What's this Stabiliser breed?	0:06:24	0:06:26
-They must be quite hardy, -or you wouldn't be keeping them.	0:06:26	0:06:31
-It's cold here in winter.	0:06:31	0:06:33
-The Stabiliser -is made up of four breeds.	0:06:34	0:06:38
-Two of the breeds are British -and the other two are Continental.	0:06:39	0:06:44
-Is there any Aberdeen in them?	0:06:46	0:06:48
-Is there any Aberdeen in them? - -Yes.	0:06:48	0:06:49
-Yes.	0:06:49	0:06:50
-Hereford and Angus -are the British breeds.	0:06:50	0:06:53
-The Continental breeds -are Gelbvieh and Simmental.	0:06:54	0:06:58
-Maybe you won't get a Lim's backside -with them...	0:07:00	0:07:04
-..but they have a good width -and good sides - a decent size.	0:07:04	0:07:09
-Their backs are wider, and that's -where the most expensive meat is.	0:07:10	0:07:15
-Would you say they're best -for producing dams...	0:07:15	0:07:18
-..where you don't need a cow -with too much milk?	0:07:19	0:07:23
-Yes, that's the idea - -to produce a breeding cow.	0:07:23	0:07:27
-It seems that your ideas are coming -to the fore here at Gwanas.	0:07:27	0:07:33
-Is this what you intend to do? -Keep suckler cattle?	0:07:33	0:07:37
-Yes. The problem is -Dad's getting slower...	0:07:37	0:07:40
-..and he can't run after Limousins -these days!	0:07:40	0:07:44
-Stabiliser cows and calves -are a lot more tame.	0:07:46	0:07:49
-You've noticed that, have you?	0:07:50	0:07:50
-You've noticed that, have you? - -Yes. They're easier to manage.	0:07:50	0:07:52
-Yes. They're easier to manage.	0:07:52	0:07:53
-We heard Tom -singing Ceiriog's lyrics...	0:08:03	0:08:06
-.."From my father -I learned mankind's first craft."	0:08:06	0:08:09
-One of those crafts -is building dry stone walls.	0:08:10	0:08:14
-These farms wouldn't be the same -without them.	0:08:14	0:08:18
-Many generations of his family -have been building these walls.	0:08:21	0:08:25
-Tom himself -has been doing it for years.	0:08:25	0:08:29
-Placing poles in a stone wall -is a tricky job.	0:08:34	0:08:38
-It's difficult to get them in -firmly.	0:08:38	0:08:41
-Big stones -force your poles out of line.	0:08:42	0:08:45
-It's amazing how much shelter -these walls provide for young lambs.	0:08:45	0:08:50
-They like these stone walls.	0:08:50	0:08:51
-They like these stone walls. - -At lambing time...	0:08:51	0:08:53
-They like these stone walls.	0:08:53	0:08:53
-..you should see all the sheep -gathered here.	0:08:54	0:08:57
-That's a good wall.	0:08:59	0:09:00
-Are you with the Tir Gofal scheme?	0:09:01	0:09:04
-You've put up conservation fences.	0:09:04	0:09:05
-You've put up conservation fences. - -Yes.	0:09:05	0:09:07
-Yes.	0:09:07	0:09:07
-You imagine you provide shelter -with stone walls...	0:09:08	0:09:11
-..but these stones are cold.	0:09:11	0:09:13
-..but these stones are cold. - -They're fine when they've warmed up.	0:09:13	0:09:13
-They're fine when they've warmed up.	0:09:13	0:09:15
-You've got lots of cattle, -and they're doing well.	0:09:15	0:09:20
-Down to feed once a day, -then up the hill again?	0:09:20	0:09:24
-Yes, they're fed once a day -at the moment.	0:09:25	0:09:29
-What would we do without silage -and big bales?	0:09:29	0:09:33
-They're a blessing.	0:09:33	0:09:35
-It would be difficult -to produce enough hay for all these.	0:09:35	0:09:39
-The summers are so dry.	0:09:40	0:09:42
-Years ago, there were cowsheds -around the place...	0:09:44	0:09:47
-..one down there and one over there.	0:09:47	0:09:50
-Hay had to be carried -to those cowsheds.	0:09:51	0:09:54
-You must have spent all day -going round the cowsheds!	0:09:54	0:09:59
-We've got bikes nowadays.	0:09:59	0:10:01
-They have four legs - -we've only got two.	0:10:01	0:10:04
-When I look down -from the mountain...	0:10:06	0:10:09
-..I see traffic moving between -Machynlleth and Dolgellau...	0:10:09	0:10:13
-..and from Dinas.	0:10:13	0:10:15
-It's a busy spot -to keep cattle and sheep.	0:10:15	0:10:19
-Yes, it's difficult.	0:10:19	0:10:19
-Yes, it's difficult. - -You're on a crossroads.	0:10:19	0:10:20
-You're on a crossroads.	0:10:20	0:10:21
-I lost a dog recently.	0:10:21	0:10:23
-A car hit it on the road.	0:10:24	0:10:27
-You can't afford to lose a good dog.	0:10:27	0:10:29
-You can't afford to lose a good dog. - -No.	0:10:29	0:10:31
-No.	0:10:31	0:10:31
-Have you finished with this wall -for today?	0:10:33	0:10:36
-Yes, I've finished.	0:10:36	0:10:38
-# Beside the lake, -beneath the boughs,	0:10:39	0:10:45
-# So long ago,	0:10:46	0:10:52
-# There, watching the waves moving	0:10:52	0:10:59
-# Back and forth.	0:11:00	0:11:08
-# I remember one -so gentle and charming,	0:11:11	0:11:18
-# My foolish heart,	0:11:18	0:11:24
-# Then came cold autumn, -So long ago. #	0:11:25	0:11:30
-Don't break it... there.	0:11:31	0:11:33
-You're doing a good job here, Tom.	0:11:37	0:11:40
-Extending the space for feeding.	0:11:41	0:11:43
-Extending the space for feeding. - -The concrete has set well.	0:11:43	0:11:44
-The concrete has set well.	0:11:44	0:11:45
-Yes. It was muddy.	0:11:45	0:11:47
-Concrete's easier to keep clean.	0:11:47	0:11:49
-Was it ready-mixed, -or did you mix it?	0:11:51	0:11:55
-We mixed it. We get the gravel -from a local quarry.	0:11:55	0:11:59
-It's a good building.	0:12:00	0:12:01
-It's healthy too. -The cows won't catch pneumonia.	0:12:02	0:12:05
-Yes, it's healthy.	0:12:06	0:12:07
-I like that thing -for flattening concrete.	0:12:08	0:12:11
-Oh, yes.	0:12:11	0:12:13
-You're like me - -you don't like bending over.	0:12:13	0:12:16
-It's a hell of a job -when you have to kneel.	0:12:16	0:12:20
-I'm at Gwanas -and I'm reminded of that song...	0:12:21	0:12:24
-..'Wrth Fynd Efo Deio I Dywyn'.	0:12:25	0:12:27
-You're mentioned in that song.	0:12:27	0:12:30
-That's right.	0:12:30	0:12:31
-How does it go?	0:12:31	0:12:32
-How does it go? - -"Bread and cheese...	0:12:32	0:12:33
-"Bread and cheese...	0:12:33	0:12:34
-"..and tea at Gwanas."	0:12:34	0:12:35
-"..and tea at Gwanas." - -You need bread and cheese...	0:12:35	0:12:37
-"..and tea at Gwanas."	0:12:37	0:12:37
-..doing a job like this!	0:12:37	0:12:38
-..doing a job like this! - -Was that a hint?!	0:12:38	0:12:40
-..doing a job like this!	0:12:40	0:12:40
-# On we went, past Dinas, -Tra la la la la la la la la la la,	0:12:42	0:12:48
-# We had bread and cheese at Gwanas, -Tra la la la la la la la la la la,	0:12:48	0:12:54
-# Through Talyllyn we went directly, -Tra la la la la la la la la,	0:12:54	0:13:00
-# When I went with Deio to Tywyn, -Tra la la la la la la la la la la. #	0:13:01	0:13:09
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-November 2006 was a historic time -for the family.	0:13:25	0:13:29
-Nia and Geraint moved in -with their children, Robin and Meg.	0:13:29	0:13:34
-The fun of moving -delighted the children.	0:13:38	0:13:41
-Make sure all the books are there!	0:13:42	0:13:45
-Of course...	0:13:46	0:13:48
-..this young family remembers -moving in here, many years ago.	0:13:48	0:13:52
-The sweet face of Glesni -who died in tragic circumstances.	0:13:53	0:13:57
-Will you help me?	0:14:02	0:14:04
-I'll try. Don't give me anything -valuable in case I drop it!	0:14:04	0:14:09
-Let's start with this.	0:14:10	0:14:11
-Let's start with this. - -That's a good picture...	0:14:11	0:14:11
-That's a good picture...	0:14:11	0:14:13
-..cattle on the mountain.	0:14:13	0:14:14
-..cattle on the mountain. - -With Cader Idris in the background.	0:14:14	0:14:15
-With Cader Idris in the background.	0:14:15	0:14:16
-Shall I put them in here?	0:14:17	0:14:18
-Shall I put them in here? - -That's right.	0:14:18	0:14:20
-Shall I put them in here?	0:14:20	0:14:20
-Pack them like this.	0:14:20	0:14:20
-Pack them like this.	0:14:20	0:14:22
-That's the way.	0:14:23	0:14:24
-I'm leaving this here. -It's Geraint's.	0:14:24	0:14:27
-He won it.	0:14:28	0:14:29
-An environmental award.	0:14:30	0:14:31
-That's a picture of Glesni.	0:14:32	0:14:34
-We were unfortunate to lose Glesni -while she was away travelling.	0:14:34	0:14:39
-She died in Bangkok 15 years ago.	0:14:39	0:14:42
-Moving is quite a job.	0:14:42	0:14:44
-Yes, it is.	0:14:44	0:14:46
-Here's a rare item -I've never seen before.	0:14:46	0:14:49
-Everyone who's won -the Blue Riband twice.	0:14:49	0:14:52
-Not many have managed it. -One, two, three, four, five, six.	0:14:53	0:14:58
-Two... three of them -are from Meirionnydd.	0:14:58	0:15:01
-That's right. I'd noticed that.	0:15:01	0:15:02
-That's right. I'd noticed that. - -Wil Prysor, Tom and Dic.	0:15:02	0:15:03
-Wil Prysor, Tom and Dic.	0:15:03	0:15:05
-Three bassists.	0:15:05	0:15:06
-Bob Bach was a character, too.	0:15:06	0:15:09
-There's a lot -of talent in Meirionnydd.	0:15:09	0:15:12
-They're big singers -to look at - tall.	0:15:12	0:15:15
-Here's his latest certificate.	0:15:16	0:15:18
-The Blue Riband in Pembrokeshire.	0:15:18	0:15:20
-Here's an old picture. -We're taking it with us...	0:15:20	0:15:24
-..Tom driving sheep.	0:15:24	0:15:26
-That's Morris Caerynwch. -Tom's there somewhere.	0:15:26	0:15:30
-You can tell how long ago it was -by looking at the cars.	0:15:30	0:15:36
-The '50s, probably.	0:15:36	0:15:37
-The '50s, probably. - -There's a Standard 10.	0:15:37	0:15:38
-There's a Standard 10.	0:15:38	0:15:39
-I had a Standard 10.	0:15:39	0:15:42
-The gearstick -was the strongest thing about it!	0:15:42	0:15:45
-It couldn't even overtake a bike!	0:15:45	0:15:46
-It couldn't even overtake a bike! - -These are pictures...	0:15:46	0:15:48
-These are pictures...	0:15:48	0:15:48
-..of my grandmother's home, -Pantyneuadd, in Parc.	0:15:48	0:15:52
-Here's Nain, carrying bread.	0:15:52	0:15:53
-Here's Nain, carrying bread. - -Look at the size of those loaves!	0:15:53	0:15:54
-Look at the size of those loaves!	0:15:54	0:15:55
-That's Aunt Mari, my father's -sister, with a load of bread.	0:15:56	0:16:00
-Here's another photograph, -by the big oven.	0:16:00	0:16:03
-They worked hard, didn't they?	0:16:04	0:16:06
-Here's my favourite.	0:16:06	0:16:08
-There's a side of bacon -hanging at the top.	0:16:09	0:16:13
-Aunt Meinir played that harp.	0:16:13	0:16:16
-Have you heard of Hywel Wood?	0:16:17	0:16:18
-Have you heard of Hywel Wood? - -Yes, Hywel Wood.	0:16:18	0:16:19
-Yes, Hywel Wood.	0:16:19	0:16:20
-That's him.	0:16:20	0:16:22
-Nain, of course, -used a smaller table.	0:16:22	0:16:25
-This is a photograph from the '40s.	0:16:25	0:16:28
-It brings back happy memories -of my childhood.	0:16:29	0:16:33
-Let's pack these then.	0:16:33	0:16:35
-These mean a lot to me.	0:16:35	0:16:38
-Tom's busy polishing.	0:16:38	0:16:40
-Here's a picture of Bethan.	0:16:41	0:16:44
-She'd had a makeover -in somewhere or other.	0:16:44	0:16:48
-It's a wonder she sat still -long enough to take a picture!	0:16:48	0:16:53
-She's not too proud of that.	0:16:53	0:16:55
-Right.	0:16:56	0:16:57
-Right. - -You're only moving a few miles...	0:16:57	0:16:57
-You're only moving a few miles...	0:16:57	0:16:59
-..but everything has to be moved.	0:16:59	0:17:02
-Yes.	0:17:02	0:17:04
-I'm leaving this calendar -until the last moment.	0:17:05	0:17:08
-You won't need a clock -or a calendar after retiring!	0:17:08	0:17:13
-I see you've left the files -and the bills for Geraint!	0:17:14	0:17:19
-Geraint can sort those out.	0:17:19	0:17:21
-And these keys... -it's all last-minute!	0:17:22	0:17:25
-I'll have to watch this step.	0:17:46	0:17:48
-What about this old clock?	0:17:48	0:17:50
-What about this old clock? - -That was handed down.	0:17:50	0:17:51
-That was handed down.	0:17:51	0:17:51
-Griffith Davis, Dolgellau.	0:17:52	0:17:53
-That came from Hafod Oer.	0:17:55	0:17:58
-The Gwanas family has long -played its part in Welsh singing.	0:17:58	0:18:03
-The late Llew Evans -was Tom's father.	0:18:03	0:18:06
-Tom's mother loves -coming back here to visit.	0:18:06	0:18:10
-It's great to see you back here, -Mrs Evans.	0:18:10	0:18:14
-You must have many sweet memories.	0:18:14	0:18:15
-You must have many sweet memories. - -Yes, very sweet.	0:18:15	0:18:16
-You must have many sweet memories.	0:18:16	0:18:16
-There was plenty of work -to do here back then.	0:18:17	0:18:21
-How many children do you have?	0:18:22	0:18:25
-We all know Tom and Trebor.	0:18:25	0:18:28
-The others were girls, weren't they?	0:18:28	0:18:30
-Yes.	0:18:31	0:18:32
-The eldest is a girl.	0:18:32	0:18:35
-She lives in Llwyngwril.	0:18:35	0:18:36
-She lives in Llwyngwril. - -She conducted Llwyngwril choir...	0:18:36	0:18:36
-She conducted Llwyngwril choir...	0:18:36	0:18:37
-..for many years.	0:18:37	0:18:39
-Yes, in Machynlleth.	0:18:39	0:18:41
-The youngest is in California.	0:18:42	0:18:44
-Did you ever get the opportunity -to go there?	0:18:45	0:18:48
-I've been there eight times.	0:18:49	0:18:51
-California?	0:18:52	0:18:52
-California? - -Yes.	0:18:52	0:18:53
-Yes.	0:18:53	0:18:54
-You don't drive, do you?	0:18:54	0:18:55
-You don't drive, do you? - -No.	0:18:55	0:18:56
-No.	0:18:56	0:18:57
-You get around, nevertheless!	0:18:57	0:18:59
-Singing has always been important -in your family.	0:19:00	0:19:03
-Yes, it always has been.	0:19:04	0:19:06
-You and your husband sang.	0:19:07	0:19:09
-You and your husband sang. - -Yes. We often sang together...	0:19:09	0:19:11
-..often in chapel.	0:19:12	0:19:13
-If there was a Communion service, -they asked us to sing a duet.	0:19:14	0:19:19
-We sang in Salem many times.	0:19:19	0:19:22
-You raised children here. -It's a big farm.	0:19:23	0:19:26
-Was there a lot of work?	0:19:26	0:19:29
-We had three workers and -four children who had to be fed.	0:19:29	0:19:35
-Sometimes, we received help.	0:19:35	0:19:37
-Then, when our eldest daughter -finished school...	0:19:39	0:19:42
-..she was able to help us.	0:19:42	0:19:45
-But everyone had to be fed.	0:19:46	0:19:48
-But everyone had to be fed. - -Did you make your own butter?	0:19:48	0:19:49
-Did you make your own butter?	0:19:49	0:19:50
-Twice a week, sometimes.	0:19:50	0:19:52
-Did you make butter here?	0:19:52	0:19:54
-Did you make butter here? - -Yes, here.	0:19:54	0:19:55
-Yes, here.	0:19:55	0:19:55
-This area used to be all stone -on both sides.	0:19:57	0:20:01
-This is where we made butter -which we sold in Dolgellau.	0:20:01	0:20:06
-You must be very happy.	0:20:06	0:20:08
-Tom and Mair are moving out, and -their son, Geraint, is moving in.	0:20:08	0:20:14
-That must make you very happy.	0:20:14	0:20:17
-The same family's still living here.	0:20:17	0:20:18
-The same family's still living here. - -It's important.	0:20:18	0:20:20
-It's important.	0:20:20	0:20:20
-Yes, it's important.	0:20:20	0:20:21
-Perhaps their children -will be singers too.	0:20:22	0:20:25
-If that's what Nain wants, -I'm sure they'll do their best.	0:20:25	0:20:30
-No money - nothing inside!	0:20:43	0:20:45
-Just dust and a spider!	0:20:45	0:20:48
-Tom and Mair are lucky to have -their children living nearby.	0:20:50	0:20:55
-They're all helping with the move, -so Tom won't be landed with a bill!	0:20:55	0:21:00
-I bet you had fun here -when you were young.	0:21:00	0:21:04
-I've never seen such a big porch.	0:21:05	0:21:08
-If I'd been naughty, -they locked me upstairs...	0:21:08	0:21:11
-..and I used to escape -through the window by climbing down!	0:21:12	0:21:16
-There used to be ivy growing there.	0:21:17	0:21:19
-The place holds memories.	0:21:19	0:21:21
-Dad's moving down the road.	0:21:21	0:21:23
-But this will still be -the family home - Gwanas.	0:21:24	0:21:27
-You're known as Bethan Gwanas, and -that's how you'll always be known.	0:21:28	0:21:33
-It's the same with Llinos.	0:21:33	0:21:35
-In Bala...	0:21:35	0:21:37
-..if someone shouts "Gwanas!" I turn -around but it's Llinos they want!	0:21:37	0:21:42
-I won't ask -which of you is the eldest!	0:21:42	0:21:46
-Llinos is the most petite, -but you play rugby.	0:21:46	0:21:50
-Yes. Bethan used to play too.	0:21:50	0:21:53
-But you still play, don't you?	0:21:53	0:21:56
-With what team do you play?	0:21:56	0:21:59
-Bala women's team.	0:21:59	0:22:01
-And there are enough women -to form a team?	0:22:01	0:22:05
-Sometimes. It depends.	0:22:06	0:22:07
-Sometimes, we play on Sundays...	0:22:07	0:22:09
-..but many of the girls are in -a bad state on Sunday morning!	0:22:10	0:22:15
-It's strange -that you two took up rugby.	0:22:15	0:22:19
-Here we are among the lonely hills.	0:22:19	0:22:22
-All the boys here play football.	0:22:22	0:22:24
-All the boys here play football. - -No, no.	0:22:24	0:22:25
-No, no.	0:22:25	0:22:26
-Both games are played in Dolgellau.	0:22:26	0:22:28
-Dad used to play rugby.	0:22:29	0:22:31
-That may have something -to do with it.	0:22:31	0:22:34
-We had to watch rugby every Sunday.	0:22:35	0:22:36
-We had to watch rugby every Sunday. - -We're a rugby family...	0:22:36	0:22:37
-We had to watch rugby every Sunday.	0:22:37	0:22:37
-..but we girls -weren't allowed to play.	0:22:37	0:22:38
-..but we girls -weren't allowed to play.	0:22:38	0:22:40
-But girls always follow Dad.	0:22:41	0:22:42
-But girls always follow Dad. - -They must do.	0:22:42	0:22:43
-They must do.	0:22:43	0:22:43
-Did your mother -give you a telling off?	0:22:43	0:22:47
-Well, Mam...	0:22:47	0:22:48
-Mam's a bit more ladylike -than we are.	0:22:49	0:22:52
-Yes, she is.	0:22:52	0:22:53
-Yes, she is. - -She tried to get us to dance...	0:22:53	0:22:54
-She tried to get us to dance...	0:22:54	0:22:56
-..to be ballerinas.	0:22:56	0:22:58
-You've got the body -to be a ballerina!	0:22:58	0:23:02
-Both of you!	0:23:02	0:23:02
-Both of you! - -Thanks very much, Dai!	0:23:02	0:23:03
-Thanks very much, Dai!	0:23:03	0:23:04
-You've dismantled the clock, boys.	0:23:12	0:23:15
-Do you remember Laurel and Hardy?	0:23:15	0:23:18
-Remember them dropping a clock?	0:23:18	0:23:20
-Hardy's right here!	0:23:20	0:23:22
-This is a very old clock.	0:23:25	0:23:27
-Yes, it is.	0:23:28	0:23:29
-Look how "Dolgelly" is spelt.	0:23:29	0:23:32
-You said you had a room -where a choir used to practise.	0:23:33	0:23:38
-It was this room.	0:23:38	0:23:40
-It was a mixed choir.	0:23:40	0:23:42
-My father's brother conducted...	0:23:42	0:23:44
-..and he had the whole choir -right up against him!	0:23:44	0:23:48
-How many were in the choir?	0:23:48	0:23:50
-How many were in the choir? - -Nearly 30.	0:23:50	0:23:51
-Nearly 30.	0:23:51	0:23:51
-Your father -was with Cor Meibion Dolgellau.	0:23:53	0:23:56
-Yes. So was I.	0:23:56	0:23:58
-For a while.	0:23:58	0:24:00
-A singing tradition.	0:24:00	0:24:02
-It's not a bad day for moving, -though it's wet outside.	0:24:02	0:24:07
-We've already taken -the smaller things.	0:24:07	0:24:10
-Mair wants more boxes or something.	0:24:10	0:24:13
-It's a big thing, moving.	0:24:13	0:24:15
-And you're moving in, Geraint.	0:24:15	0:24:16
-And you're moving in, Geraint. - -It's a lot of work.	0:24:16	0:24:18
-It's a lot of work.	0:24:18	0:24:18
-You'll be closer to your work.	0:24:19	0:24:20
-You'll be closer to your work. - -It's better for me.	0:24:20	0:24:21
-It's better for me.	0:24:21	0:24:22
-And less work for the old man.	0:24:22	0:24:25
-Less of the 'old'. -we're the same age!	0:24:25	0:24:29
-But we like to give young people -a chance!	0:24:29	0:24:32
-A small chance!	0:24:33	0:24:33
-A small chance! - -A small push!	0:24:33	0:24:34
-A small push!	0:24:34	0:24:35
-Have you moved yet?	0:24:35	0:24:37
-This is a nice job for us two -at our age.	0:24:39	0:24:44
-Don't move anything -that's too heavy.	0:24:45	0:24:48
-You'll get a lot in here.	0:24:50	0:24:53
-Mind your head.	0:24:53	0:24:54
-Tom has been a member -of Cor Godre'r Aran for many years.	0:25:09	0:25:14
-I wonder if he's asked - I'm sure -he is - "Do your children sing?"	0:25:15	0:25:21
-Llinos can sing.	0:25:21	0:25:22
-Llinos can sing. - -No, she can't!	0:25:22	0:25:22
-No, she can't!	0:25:22	0:25:23
-Though they tried their best -with me!	0:25:23	0:25:26
-Llinos can play the piano too.	0:25:27	0:25:28
-Llinos can play the piano too. - -No, though they tried that too!	0:25:28	0:25:29
-No, though they tried that too!	0:25:29	0:25:31
-It would have been nice -if you could play.	0:25:31	0:25:35
-That was the dream, I think.	0:25:35	0:25:36
-That was the dream, I think. - -Dad wanted an accompanist.	0:25:36	0:25:38
-That was the dream, I think.	0:25:38	0:25:38
-He tried to get us girls interested.	0:25:38	0:25:41
-Mrs AA came here to give us -piano lessons in the parlour.	0:25:41	0:25:46
-Mrs AA - -her husband worked for the AA!	0:25:46	0:25:50
-But I really hated -playing the piano!	0:25:50	0:25:53
-I protested so much.	0:25:53	0:25:55
-When she came once, I kicked -a football and broke a window!	0:25:55	0:26:00
-Llinos wasn't quite such a rebel -in those days.	0:26:00	0:26:04
-Is she very rebellious these days?	0:26:04	0:26:07
-She did rebel a bit later on.	0:26:07	0:26:10
-Back to today, Bethan - doesn't -travelling so much scare you?	0:26:11	0:26:15
-I'd be scared of getting lost!	0:26:15	0:26:16
-I'd be scared of getting lost! - -I'm never on my own.	0:26:16	0:26:18
-I'm never on my own.	0:26:18	0:26:18
-I prefer to travel alone.	0:26:19	0:26:21
-Llinos came with me to America once -to play rugby.	0:26:21	0:26:25
-That must have been an experience!	0:26:25	0:26:28
-It was great!	0:26:28	0:26:30
-I'd rather travel on my own, really.	0:26:30	0:26:33
-But when I'm doing 'Ar Y Lein', -there's a crew as well.	0:26:33	0:26:38
-I've nothing against them, -but that's work.	0:26:38	0:26:41
-What an experience though.	0:26:42	0:26:43
-You meet different people -in different countries.	0:26:44	0:26:47
-In this country, -everyone's the same, more or less.	0:26:47	0:26:51
-But, in some places, -people can be very different.	0:26:51	0:26:55
-They're completely different, -but then again, they're the same.	0:26:55	0:26:59
-It doesn't matter where you go.	0:26:59	0:27:00
-It doesn't matter where you go. - -Do you enjoy it?	0:27:00	0:27:01
-Do you enjoy it?	0:27:01	0:27:02
-Oh, yes. I like talking to people.	0:27:02	0:27:05
-I get bored if I'm sitting -looking at moose or elk all day!	0:27:05	0:27:10
-I don't know how -Iolo Williams does it!	0:27:11	0:27:14
-It's people I'm interested in...	0:27:14	0:27:16
-Llinos, would you like to travel?	0:27:16	0:27:19
-I'm not sure.	0:27:19	0:27:21
-I'd enjoy if Bethan and her sister -did something like 'Ar Y Lein' once.	0:27:21	0:27:25
-That's a good idea!	0:27:26	0:27:27
-.	0:27:28	0:27:28
-888	0:27:33	0:27:33
-888 - -888	0:27:33	0:27:35
-The family has a lot of work to do -during the week.	0:27:38	0:27:43
-They have land in Maentwrog -and Anglesey.	0:27:44	0:27:47
-Managing these Continental cattle -can often be quite a job.	0:27:47	0:27:51
-Go on.	0:27:58	0:28:00
-Go on.	0:28:01	0:28:03
-This is a very sheltered spot.	0:28:08	0:28:11
-It's not at all cold.	0:28:11	0:28:13
-It's not at all cold. - -No, and it's nice and dry.	0:28:13	0:28:13
-No, and it's nice and dry.	0:28:13	0:28:15
-I'm sure this was in its glory -this year.	0:28:17	0:28:21
-Yes. It started late, -but it was good once it came.	0:28:21	0:28:25
-You keep cattle here, and you've -created a great place for them.	0:28:26	0:28:31
-It's next to the road.	0:28:31	0:28:33
-Getting them in can be quite a job.	0:28:33	0:28:36
-You've got to plan ahead.	0:28:37	0:28:39
-I would think -you've got plenty of patience.	0:28:39	0:28:43
-Me?!	0:28:43	0:28:44
-That's what I think.	0:28:45	0:28:45
-That's what I think. - -You're not serious, are you?	0:28:45	0:28:46
-You're not serious, are you?	0:28:46	0:28:47
-Yes! I think you have patience!	0:28:48	0:28:50
-Shall I go and look -for the other cows?	0:28:51	0:28:55
-Are you sure?	0:28:55	0:28:56
-Are you sure? - -There was a time...	0:28:56	0:28:57
-There was a time...	0:28:57	0:28:57
-..when I could run around -and get the cattle in!	0:28:58	0:29:02
-But this is enough for me now!	0:29:02	0:29:03
-But this is enough for me now! - -The 0-60 has gone!	0:29:03	0:29:05
-I could do it years ago!	0:29:05	0:29:08
-Let that white one through?	0:29:14	0:29:16
-Whoa, bach. Come on.	0:29:18	0:29:19
-Will they get past you?	0:29:21	0:29:23
-No, they won't get past me.	0:29:23	0:29:26
-Guaranteed?	0:29:26	0:29:27
-I'm not as tall as you, -but I'd fill a bigger hole!	0:29:27	0:29:33
-I want those two.	0:29:34	0:29:36
-Let that red one come.	0:29:45	0:29:47
-There we are, boys.	0:30:03	0:30:05
-Gwanas, here we come.	0:30:06	0:30:08
-They're one step closer to the bank.	0:30:10	0:30:13
-The family, responding -to circumstances...	0:30:38	0:30:41
-..has diversified in its work.	0:30:41	0:30:44
-Diversification is an important word -in agriculture nowadays.	0:30:44	0:30:49
-A few miles down the road, -they have a caravan park.	0:30:51	0:30:55
-People flock here.	0:30:55	0:30:58
-It's a lovely spot.	0:30:58	0:31:00
-You've spent a lot of money on this.	0:31:01	0:31:03
-That building's new.	0:31:04	0:31:05
-It's about a year old.	0:31:06	0:31:08
-It's a great asset.	0:31:08	0:31:10
-Building something like that -costs a lot.	0:31:11	0:31:14
-All the utilities must be in place.	0:31:15	0:31:18
-There are regulations.	0:31:18	0:31:19
-These days, people -want the best facilities.	0:31:20	0:31:23
-Is this the largest park?	0:31:25	0:31:28
-Yes, this is the park -with the static caravans.	0:31:28	0:31:32
-It's an excellent park -and totally rural.	0:31:32	0:31:35
-City people like to escape -for holidays in a quiet spot.	0:31:36	0:31:40
-I'm sure you don't have any trouble -filling the place.	0:31:40	0:31:44
-So long as the sun is out.	0:31:45	0:31:46
-So long as the sun is out. - -The weather is your only problem.	0:31:46	0:31:48
-The weather is your only problem.	0:31:48	0:31:48
-Yes, but it's quite sheltered here.	0:31:48	0:31:51
-Wind isn't a problem.	0:31:52	0:31:53
-Does anyone outside the family -help to run the show?	0:31:53	0:31:57
-No, it's the family, mostly.	0:31:58	0:32:00
-Of course, this began -as a means of diversification.	0:32:00	0:32:04
-You got the chance to buy it.	0:32:04	0:32:06
-You got the chance to buy it. - -Yes, back in '96...	0:32:06	0:32:07
-Yes, back in '96...	0:32:07	0:32:07
-..we got the chance -to buy the place.	0:32:07	0:32:11
-We bought it -the day before BSE broke out.	0:32:11	0:32:15
-It's been a great help to us.	0:32:16	0:32:19
-You're clever with your hands. -You can build stone walls.	0:32:19	0:32:23
-Did you do a lot of the work -yourself?	0:32:24	0:32:28
-Yes - walls, fences, and I've done -a lot of work on the caravans...	0:32:28	0:32:33
-..plumbing, and preparing places -for new caravans.	0:32:33	0:32:36
-Of course, these caravans -must have all the amenities.	0:32:37	0:32:41
-They have to be available.	0:32:43	0:32:45
-Yes - electricity, -water and sewerage.	0:32:45	0:32:48
-We may install gas this winter.	0:32:49	0:32:53
-When does the season start? Easter?	0:32:53	0:32:55
-Yes, Easter or April 1. -It depends which comes first.	0:32:56	0:33:01
-It finishes at the end of October.	0:33:01	0:33:04
-There's a lot of work involved -with these walls.	0:33:11	0:33:14
-You should be getting full grants.	0:33:14	0:33:17
-These old walls fall down easily.	0:33:17	0:33:19
-You have to maintain them properly.	0:33:20	0:33:21
-You have to maintain them properly. - -Yes, these walls in particular.	0:33:21	0:33:22
-Yes, these walls in particular.	0:33:22	0:33:23
-The stones are from the river, -so they're round.	0:33:23	0:33:27
-There's more work involved.	0:33:27	0:33:29
-You have to place the stones -carefully.	0:33:29	0:33:32
-They're very heavy.	0:33:33	0:33:34
-Yes - they're hard on your back.	0:33:34	0:33:37
-You have to watch that children -don't go jumping all over them!	0:33:37	0:33:42
-Mam often shouts at them!	0:33:42	0:33:44
-She's used to shouting!	0:33:44	0:33:45
-She's used to shouting! - -She had plenty of practice with us!	0:33:45	0:33:48
-I learnt mostly from my father.	0:33:49	0:33:52
-Every area has a different building -technique or a different style.	0:33:52	0:33:57
-On the outskirts of Brithdir...	0:34:08	0:34:10
-..there's a place that's close -to the family's heart - the chapel.	0:34:11	0:34:15
-It's closed now, but they're -delighted with its new use.	0:34:15	0:34:20
-Here's the family graveyard.	0:34:20	0:34:22
-The gate's been painted too, -fair play!	0:34:23	0:34:26
-Yes, it's nice.	0:34:26	0:34:28
-Things are well cared for -in rural areas.	0:34:28	0:34:31
-Here it is - the family graveyard.	0:34:33	0:34:35
-Here it is - the family graveyard. - -Here it is.	0:34:35	0:34:35
-Here it is.	0:34:35	0:34:36
-There's Glesni - and your father.	0:34:38	0:34:40
-I hope there'll be room for me too.	0:34:40	0:34:44
-Before very long, I should think!	0:34:44	0:34:45
-Before very long, I should think! - -I wouldn't say that!	0:34:45	0:34:47
-I wouldn't say that!	0:34:47	0:34:47
-Was this the family chapel?	0:34:47	0:34:50
-Originally, we went to another -chapel, further up the valley...	0:34:51	0:34:55
-..closer to Cwm Hafod Oer.	0:34:55	0:34:57
-That closed, so we came here.	0:34:57	0:35:00
-But this didn't remain open -for much longer.	0:35:00	0:35:03
-The year 2000.	0:35:04	0:35:05
-In the year 2000.	0:35:05	0:35:07
-Today, it's a nursery, isn't it?	0:35:08	0:35:10
-Today, it's a nursery, isn't it? - -Yes, for young children.	0:35:10	0:35:11
-Yes, for young children.	0:35:11	0:35:12
-The original idea was to keep -the building for the community.	0:35:14	0:35:18
-Then, after four years, -we'd received enough grants...	0:35:19	0:35:23
-..to open the nursery at the -beginning of this year, January 3.	0:35:23	0:35:27
-You must be very happy.	0:35:28	0:35:29
-You must be very happy. - -Yes. The chapel's been very kind...	0:35:29	0:35:30
-Yes. The chapel's been very kind...	0:35:30	0:35:31
-..to let us have it on lease -at a small price.	0:35:31	0:35:36
-It's a very nice purpose - -to nurture the future.	0:35:36	0:35:40
-Who could turn that down?	0:35:40	0:35:43
-Singers, perhaps.	0:35:43	0:35:44
-There'll be something wrong -if there won't be any.	0:35:45	0:35:48
-Are you still involved with the -place now that it's a nursery?	0:35:48	0:35:53
-Yes, we had to do something with the -graveyard when the chapel closed.	0:35:54	0:35:59
-Three of us are trustees -of the graveyard.	0:35:59	0:36:03
-If you want to be buried here, -you phone me!	0:36:03	0:36:08
-I see! -It's in very safe hands, then.	0:36:08	0:36:11
-Well, hello!	0:36:41	0:36:43
-How are you?	0:36:43	0:36:44
-Are you alright?	0:36:45	0:36:46
-A welcome at the door!	0:36:46	0:36:48
-How are you?	0:36:49	0:36:50
-How are you? - -I'm fine.	0:36:50	0:36:50
-I'm fine.	0:36:50	0:36:51
-They keep you busy, don't they?	0:36:53	0:36:56
-Very busy. We've just had lunch -and now they're playing.	0:36:56	0:37:00
-You can see chocolate -around their mouths!	0:37:00	0:37:03
-How old are they?	0:37:04	0:37:05
-How old are they? - -We accept them from three months...	0:37:05	0:37:05
-We accept them from three months...	0:37:05	0:37:08
-..until the time they start school.	0:37:08	0:37:11
-That varies, depending on when -they have their birthday.	0:37:11	0:37:15
-None are over five.	0:37:15	0:37:16
-None are over five. - -How many of you look after them?	0:37:16	0:37:17
-How many of you look after them?	0:37:17	0:37:19
-There are six staff members.	0:37:19	0:37:21
-Tom's granddaughter works here.	0:37:22	0:37:24
-She's over there, feeding a baby.	0:37:24	0:37:27
-Do they miss their mothers -when they leave them?	0:37:27	0:37:31
-They're very good. Some do, -but they're all different.	0:37:31	0:37:35
-Some days, maybe, or if there's -a change in circumstances.	0:37:35	0:37:40
-But they're very good.	0:37:40	0:37:41
-But they're very good. - -How many children are registered?	0:37:41	0:37:42
-How many children are registered?	0:37:42	0:37:43
-Hello, how are you?	0:37:43	0:37:44
-Hello, how are you? - -There are 30 in all.	0:37:44	0:37:45
-There are 30 in all.	0:37:45	0:37:46
-Really?	0:37:47	0:37:48
-Have you come to say hello?	0:37:48	0:37:51
-What's that? A mouth organ?	0:37:51	0:37:53
-What's that? A mouth organ? - -Hello!	0:37:53	0:37:53
-Hello!	0:37:53	0:37:54
-Everyone wants to say hello!	0:37:54	0:37:55
-Everyone wants to say hello! - -They're cheerful!	0:37:55	0:37:57
-They're cheerful!	0:37:57	0:37:57
-How are you?	0:37:57	0:37:59
-Are you alright?	0:37:59	0:38:00
-.	0:38:00	0:38:01
-888	0:38:16	0:38:16
-888 - -888	0:38:16	0:38:18
-There's no need for the tourists -to have everything.	0:38:29	0:38:32
-The sheep are brought to the park -where there's plenty of grass.	0:38:33	0:38:38
-They think it's Christmas!	0:38:38	0:38:40
-They're delighted to get in there!	0:38:46	0:38:49
-They won't take long -to graze it all.	0:38:50	0:38:53
-We haven't cut the grass -for a while...	0:38:54	0:38:57
-..because the sheep can eat it.	0:38:57	0:38:59
-..because the sheep can eat it. - -There won't be any tourists...	0:38:59	0:39:01
-..because the sheep can eat it. - -There won't be any tourists... - -..until Easter.	0:39:01	0:39:01
-..because the sheep can eat it. - -..until Easter.	0:39:01	0:39:02
-The grass will soon grow back.	0:39:02	0:39:05
-The bottom field is very sheltered.	0:39:05	0:39:08
-The bottom field is very sheltered. - -It's much nicer than Cwm Hafod Oer!	0:39:08	0:39:08
-It's much nicer than Cwm Hafod Oer!	0:39:08	0:39:11
-Are they all Welsh sheep? -No crosses?	0:39:12	0:39:15
-None.	0:39:16	0:39:18
-Do you get many twins?	0:39:18	0:39:19
-Do you get many twins? - -With these, yes...	0:39:19	0:39:20
-With these, yes...	0:39:20	0:39:20
-..but the mountain sheep -won't have many.	0:39:21	0:39:24
-It's sheltered here -and close to Gwanas.	0:39:24	0:39:27
-It's a very convenient arrangement.	0:39:28	0:39:30
-Yes, it works fine.	0:39:30	0:39:32
-Mair is nearby. She can help.	0:39:33	0:39:35
-Yes, within walking distance.	0:39:35	0:39:37
-Is it you -who usually cuts the grass?	0:39:38	0:39:42
-Do you have a ride-on mower?	0:39:42	0:39:43
-Do you have a ride-on mower? - -Yes. I don't mind doing it.	0:39:43	0:39:45
-Yes. I don't mind doing it.	0:39:45	0:39:46
-Don't you?	0:39:46	0:39:48
-But when it comes to paperwork...	0:39:49	0:39:52
-..Tom and Geraint are happy -to leave it all to Mair.	0:39:52	0:39:57
-This is a very important corner -of the park.	0:39:58	0:40:02
-Yes. We're very busy in summer.	0:40:02	0:40:05
-Yes. We're very busy in summer. - -Is there much to do during the day?	0:40:05	0:40:05
-Is there much to do during the day?	0:40:05	0:40:08
-Keep things ticking over, I suppose?	0:40:08	0:40:09
-Keep things ticking over, I suppose? - -Yes.	0:40:09	0:40:11
-Cleaning the toilets -is the worst job.	0:40:11	0:40:14
-We welcome people, make sure -they pay and give them tags.	0:40:14	0:40:18
-I have different coloured tags -for each day which helps...	0:40:19	0:40:23
-..because they can be sneaky.	0:40:23	0:40:25
-Are they decent people -on the whole?	0:40:26	0:40:29
-On the whole, they're excellent, -but you get the odd bad one.	0:40:29	0:40:34
-Can they buy provisions in the park?	0:40:34	0:40:37
-No, they have to go into town -to buy provisions.	0:40:38	0:40:41
-That would be too much, -though we'd make more money.	0:40:41	0:40:46
-Well, well, Mair - what's this?	0:40:48	0:40:50
-This is a kitchen for the campers...	0:40:50	0:40:53
-..where they can wash dishes...	0:40:55	0:40:57
-And prepare food?	0:40:58	0:40:59
-And prepare food? - -Yes, if it's raining...	0:40:59	0:41:00
-Yes, if it's raining...	0:41:00	0:41:01
-..they can come in here.	0:41:01	0:41:02
-..they can come in here. - -And there's a television.	0:41:02	0:41:03
-And there's a television.	0:41:03	0:41:04
-If there's a football game on -or something, they fill the room.	0:41:04	0:41:09
-Do campsites -generally have these facilities?	0:41:09	0:41:13
-Are they essential?	0:41:13	0:41:15
-Are they essential? - -No...	0:41:15	0:41:16
-Are they essential?	0:41:16	0:41:16
-..but we thought -it would be something extra.	0:41:16	0:41:19
-..but we thought -it would be something extra.	0:41:19	0:41:20
-It was an experiment, really, -but people like it.	0:41:21	0:41:24
-I bought these seats -in the chapel sale.	0:41:25	0:41:29
-It was being converted into -a nursery, so we had a sale.	0:41:31	0:41:35
-I bought four of these seats.	0:41:37	0:41:39
-They add character.	0:41:40	0:41:41
-I bet some of the backsides -that sit here...	0:41:41	0:41:45
-..have never been in a chapel!	0:41:45	0:41:46
-..have never been in a chapel! - -I'm sure!	0:41:46	0:41:48
-It costs a lot -to build something like this.	0:41:48	0:41:52
-It does.	0:41:52	0:41:53
-The tourist board was good enough -to give us a grant towards it.	0:41:54	0:41:59
-But you had to make sure -it had everything.	0:42:00	0:42:03
-Yes. It had to be of a certain -standard - and that cost money.	0:42:04	0:42:08
-Fair play...	0:42:09	0:42:10
-..you've diversified but -you've kept the farm's character.	0:42:11	0:42:15
-People are all you need.	0:42:16	0:42:18
-Yes, things are always changing.	0:42:20	0:42:23
-But the landscape in this area -will never change...	0:42:24	0:42:28
-..and thank heavens for that.	0:42:29	0:42:31
-It's like paradise.	0:42:33	0:42:35
-Though Mair and Tom have moved out, -they're not far from Gwanas.	0:42:35	0:42:40
-They're in Dolgamedd - -a very old place.	0:42:41	0:42:44
-In this house, there'll be plenty -of talk about singing and farming.	0:42:45	0:42:50
-Bound to be.	0:42:51	0:42:52
-It's not far from Tycroes, -the home of Ieuan Gwynedd.	0:42:53	0:42:57
-Owen Edwards mentions in his book -that he walked past this house...	0:42:59	0:43:04
-..and he wrote that Dolgamedd -looked Elizabethan.	0:43:04	0:43:08
-It's nice that your son -has taken over Gwanas.	0:43:09	0:43:13
-And you have enough time to enjoy -as he gets himself established.	0:43:14	0:43:19
-Yes, it's nice.	0:43:19	0:43:20
-And you know how farming is - -all those forms.	0:43:21	0:43:24
-He does all that himself.	0:43:24	0:43:27
-I'd have retired ages ago -if it wasn't for him!	0:43:27	0:43:31
-Will you be going home to Gwanas -by mistake occasionally?	0:43:34	0:43:38
-That's quite possible!	0:43:38	0:43:40
-I came out of Ty Glas one day -and turned towards Gwanas!	0:43:42	0:43:47
-I had to turn around and go back!	0:43:47	0:43:50
-What will you do -with yourselves now?	0:43:51	0:43:54
-You'll be busy in summer.	0:43:55	0:43:56
-You'll be busy in summer. - -Yes, I'll be busy in summer.	0:43:56	0:43:57
-Yes, I'll be busy in summer.	0:43:57	0:43:58
-You don't sing, do you?	0:43:59	0:44:01
-No, but I listen!	0:44:01	0:44:03
-And criticise! I'm a critic!	0:44:04	0:44:06
-Do you have any other interests -to keep you occupied?	0:44:08	0:44:12
-Is there anything you'd like to do?	0:44:12	0:44:15
-I'd like to do more exercise -like yoga or something like that.	0:44:16	0:44:21
-More time to do things like that.	0:44:21	0:44:22
-More time to do things like that. - -Skiing too.	0:44:22	0:44:23
-More time to do things like that.	0:44:23	0:44:24
-Oh, yes - skiing.	0:44:24	0:44:24
-Oh, yes - skiing.	0:44:24	0:44:25
-Skiing's my hobby these days.	0:44:25	0:44:27
-I've only just started.	0:44:28	0:44:30
-# White seagull above the lake... #	0:44:31	0:44:36
-I had the privilege of sharing -a stage with Tom Gwanas many times.	0:44:37	0:44:42
-It was a real pleasure.	0:44:42	0:44:45
-I've heard this country's -greatest musicians...	0:44:45	0:44:48
-..saying Tom Gwanas is the most -musical singer they've ever heard.	0:44:48	0:44:53
-Hear, hear, say I.	0:44:53	0:44:55
-No-one has won - it used to be -the Princeps Cantorum...	0:44:58	0:45:03
-..but it isn't awarded any more.	0:45:03	0:45:06
-I was the only one to win it twice.	0:45:06	0:45:09
-Did you prefer to compete -rather than sing in a concert?	0:45:09	0:45:14
-This shows you, I think.	0:45:14	0:45:16
-I preferred to compete.	0:45:17	0:45:19
-You won both your Blue Riband -in Pembrokeshire.	0:45:19	0:45:22
-'86 and 2002.	0:45:22	0:45:25
-I won at Llangollen in '84 and '89.	0:45:25	0:45:29
-Do you think the eisteddfod stage...	0:45:29	0:45:32
-..is the best place -to serve your apprenticeship?	0:45:32	0:45:35
-Not just with singing...	0:45:35	0:45:37
-..but with living in a rural area.	0:45:37	0:45:38
-..but with living in a rural area. - -Yes, it is.	0:45:38	0:45:39
-..but with living in a rural area.	0:45:39	0:45:40
-Everyone loses unfairly sometimes, -but you take it in your stride.	0:45:40	0:45:40
-Everyone loses unfairly sometimes, -but you take it in your stride.	0:45:40	0:45:44
-When did you start -with Cor Godre'r Aran?	0:45:45	0:45:48
-It was in 1969.	0:45:48	0:45:50
-I was with a male voice choir before -that - Cor Meibion Dolgellau...	0:45:51	0:45:56
-..and before that I was in the -Dinas Mawddwy cerdd dant octet.	0:45:57	0:46:02
-Everyone said -my enunciation was bad...	0:46:03	0:46:06
-..and that cerdd dant -helped with enunciation.	0:46:06	0:46:09
-But it wasn't true in my case.	0:46:09	0:46:12
-I wouldn't say -your enunciation is bad!	0:46:12	0:46:15
-You can't say that when you've got -two gold medals from Llangollen...	0:46:16	0:46:20
-..and two Blue Ribands.	0:46:21	0:46:22
-Being on an eisteddfod stage -is an honour.	0:46:22	0:46:26
-It's a thrill -to sing at an eisteddfod.	0:46:26	0:46:30
-You're also scared -of going on stage.	0:46:30	0:46:33
-But once you've done it, -it's a great feeling.	0:46:33	0:46:37
-# Shining,	0:46:37	0:46:41
-# Oh, most beloved star... #	0:46:42	0:46:48
-Is your voice -as good as it's ever been?	0:46:50	0:46:55
-Oh, no.	0:46:55	0:46:57
-But if I continue to sing -with the choir...	0:46:57	0:47:01
-..or in concerts...	0:47:02	0:47:04
-..and practise, it's alright.	0:47:04	0:47:07
-But if I don't sing for a while, -I can hear it starting to go.	0:47:07	0:47:13
-During lambing, for example, -when you don't have time to sing...	0:47:13	0:47:18
-..it's difficult to come back to it -afterwards.	0:47:18	0:47:22
-When I won my last Blue Riband...	0:47:22	0:47:25
-..I tried to keep practising -during lambing.	0:47:25	0:47:28
-Up to about a week -before the Eisteddfod...	0:47:28	0:47:32
-..I wasn't going to compete.	0:47:32	0:47:34
-The songs just didn't come.	0:47:34	0:47:37
-But during the final week, -they came.	0:47:37	0:47:40
-# ..my heart. #	0:47:40	0:47:49
-APPLAUSE	0:47:51	0:47:52
-Is there any country -you'd like to visit?	0:47:53	0:47:56
-I don't think so.	0:47:56	0:47:57
-I don't think so. - -You've more time on your hands.	0:47:57	0:47:58
-You've more time on your hands.	0:47:58	0:47:59
-So you say!	0:48:00	0:48:00
-So you say! - -Let's called you semi-retired.	0:48:00	0:48:01
-Let's called you semi-retired.	0:48:01	0:48:02
-You'll never really retire.	0:48:02	0:48:03
-You'll never really retire. - -No. Never.	0:48:03	0:48:04
-No. Never.	0:48:04	0:48:06
-But, on behalf of your family, and -especially your father and mother...	0:48:08	0:48:12
-..who had such high regard -for eisteddfodau and singing...	0:48:13	0:48:16
-..it's wonderful -that you've won all these.	0:48:17	0:48:20
-Yes, it's quite nice.	0:48:20	0:48:21
-Yes, it's quite nice. - -It's something you can share.	0:48:21	0:48:22
-It's something you can share.	0:48:22	0:48:23
-On a wet afternoon, -you can sit here and look at them!	0:48:23	0:48:28
-And clean them!	0:48:29	0:48:30
-And clean them! - -I thought Mair cleaned them!	0:48:30	0:48:30
-I thought Mair cleaned them!	0:48:30	0:48:32
-No, it's me who cleans them!	0:48:32	0:48:35
-If any viewers need someone to -clean the house, contact Tom Gwanas!	0:48:35	0:48:40
-# I lie down late in the evening -and get up at dawn,	0:48:42	0:48:47
-# I lie down late in the evening -and get up at dawn,	0:48:47	0:48:52
-# To follow the plough -on the hillside,	0:48:52	0:48:56
-# And follow the red plough -on the great mountain. #	0:48:57	0:49:06
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