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Every year thousands of people die with no will and with no apparent relatives.

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Tracking down their long-lost families is a job for the heir hunters.

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On today's programme, the heir hunters come up against a mystery they can't seem to solve.

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We've got a sister, Doreen, we cannot kill off.

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And an heir unearths a family secret that has been kept hidden for a generation.

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I think I can 100% say that my father didn't know he had a half-brother.

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And we'll have details of some of the hundreds of unclaimed estates.

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Could you be in line for a windfall?

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More than two-thirds of people die without leaving a will.

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If they have no obvious relatives, their money goes to the Government.

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Last year, they made a staggering £18 million from unclaimed estates.

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That's where the heir hunters step in.

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-Mr Galloway?

-Yes. David Hadley. Hello.

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There are more than 30 heir hunting companies who make it their business to track down the rightful kin.

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Last year alone they claimed back £6.5 million

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for unsuspecting heirs who would have otherwise gone empty-handed.

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Our job is incredibly exciting.

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We're tracing family trees, delving back into people's history

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and looking at the hidden mysteries around people's families.

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It's 7am at Fraser & Fraser, one of the oldest heir hunting companies in London.

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The Government list of people who have died without a will has been announced.

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Heir hunters work on commission, so the first priority is to quickly work out which cases are of value.

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We can't find an address for this in Worthing, West Sussex, so get Bob Smith to get that one.

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One of the cases had caught their attention,

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that of Roy Read, whose estate is worth an estimated £200,000.

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We started this morning looking at eight cases. The main case we're concentrating on is Read.

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We're making sure we've got the majority of our staff on him now.

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The hard bit's to make sure we don't spread our resources too thin,

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so we'll see where it goes in an hour or two.

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Roy Read spent his semi-retirement working as a driver for Age Concern.

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Despite the years spent giving his time to others,

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he died alone in his home aged 76, apparently without any family.

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Two of the last people to see him on a regular basis were fellow charity workers Janice and Louise.

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He was very young at heart and he was quite an active man.

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He also had quite an interest around gardening.

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Whenever we took the groups out to the garden centres,

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he'd often be involved with them, helping them to choose their plants.

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Everybody adores Roy. He was such a nice person, really nice.

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Roy worked at the charity for 11 years, but he didn't give much away about his home life.

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He had a very good rapport with old people,

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but he was also a very private man and that's how he chose to live.

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We never heard him talk very much about family.

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Roy died without leaving a will.

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Because he owned his house, Roy's estate could be as valuable

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as £200,000, so definitely a case worth investigating.

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The first stage in tracing his family is for the researchers

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to check for his birth details and then look for parents and siblings.

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They have already reported to case manager David Pacifico some early news.

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He had a sister, Doreen, who we're trying to track down. She's probably deceased.

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Who knows? We're trying to find what happened to her.

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As Roy's closest kin, Doreen would be entitled to his £200,000 estate, if they can find her.

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We're doing a marriage search for Doreen and Roy.

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But she may have died young.

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While the search goes on in the office, David Pacifico knows a face-to-face conversation with

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any of Roy's neighbours might provide information about him.

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That could save hours of scrolling through records.

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He has people on the road he can call on for just this purpose.

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The office employ a squadron of travelling heir hunters

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who are ready to go wherever the hunt takes them.

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Based up and down the country, their job is to sniff out clues to identify potential heirs.

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Once heirs are found, these senior researchers

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hotfoot it to meet them before the other companies.

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The first senior researcher to get a call is Watford-based Ewart Lindsay.

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I've just been rung up by the office and I've got a new case out this morning.

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The deceased used to live at 199 Hewitt Avenue, so I'm going to head over to that address now.

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Just do a brief inquiry, speaking to neighbours and try and find out a bit more about the deceased.

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It's crunch time on the case.

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Will Ewart's enquiries help to leapfrog the team's research forward?

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With Roy Read's £200,000 property at stake,

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the office aren't wasting any time while they wait for Ewart's news.

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They've now got more information on Roy's family.

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The parents are William J Read and Violet Rosie Maylin.

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This finding has allowed them to add another layer to the family tree.

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As well as Roy's Sister Doreen, they now know he was the son of Violet and William Read.

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They still think Doreen might be the sole heir, but they'll need

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to verify this information by getting relevant certificates.

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What we need to get is the birth of the sister, the parents' marriage and the birth of Mum.

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We won't know much else until the information comes back.

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Birth, death and marriage certificates are the tools of the heir hunters' trade.

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They verify details needed to build up a family tree

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and to make a case to the Government on an heir's behalf.

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The quickest way to get the information is to send someone

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to collect it from the register office but even this takes time.

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Roy's mother's death certificate is at the top of the list.

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The mother's death certificate may give us who knows? The sister might be the informant on it.

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I'm hoping she will be because at least we'll have a name, and address, albeit in 1982.

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It's a job for another of the travelling heir hunters.

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Will they be able to track down a clue to solve the case?

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-Morning, Dave it's David here.

-Hello, David.

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-Can you go into Enfield and pick up a death for me, please?

-Yes.

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And it's the death of the deceased mother, Violet Rosie Read. I've got two people on the road.

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I've got Ewart Lindsay and I've got Dave Hadley.

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The mother died in Enfield, so I'm sending Dave Hadley.

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Ewart is going to do an inquiry and then go to Westminster where the parents were married.

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Because everything is coming out of different registry offices, we're using somebody

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from here to go to Islington to pick up the deceased's birth and hopefully the sister's birth,

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which would give her full name and date of birth, which is what we want.

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It's now 9am and researcher Debbie is making

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her way to Islington Town Hall for Roy and Doreen's birth certificates.

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Even the most experienced heir hunters are struggling.

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There you go.

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Debbie should be phoning through shortly. All right?

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We're a bit up in the air on this one.

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If it's not easy for us, hopefully, it's not easy for other companies.

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At Roy's house in north London, Ewart is hoping to move the case on

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by obtaining information from the neighbours.

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A neighbour of yours a few doors down at 199, Mr Read, I don't know if you knew him.

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I've spoken to him, but I didn't know his name.

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He's died without leaving a will.

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And you've got nobody at all?

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I have to trace his family and I'm trying to speak to neighbours to see if anyone knows more.

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-Was he ever married at all?

-No, he was on his own.

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I don't think he had any family.

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-Do you know how long he's been living there?

-He was living here for years, like a recluse.

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An elderly man, yes.

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While they wait for news that can push the case forward,

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Gareth is still trying to get ahead with Roy's sister, Doreen.

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He hasn't discovered the record for her death and now he's struggling to find her marriage record.

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At the moment we're completely stuck.

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I've got one marriage for Doreen C Read.

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I don't think it's going to be right, though.

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That leaves me wondering what has happened to her.

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She hasn't died, we can't find her death file as Read and I don't think she's married,

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so where has she gone? I'm not sure.

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With the researchers struggling, will Ewart's report back from the neighbours help?

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I've managed to speak to a lady a few doors down.

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She just mentioned that the deceased was a recluse.

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No mention about her sister?

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No mention about her sister at all, no.

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We've got a sister, Doreen, we can't kill off.

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It's now 10.00am and the case is still deadlocked.

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Worried they might be falling behind the other heir hunting companies, David's patience is wearing thin.

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I'm going to phone Dave Hadley again. This is driving me mad.

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It's good timing for David's call because Dave Hadley has just arrived at the register office.

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Dave, David here. You've got it.

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Cheers.

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Dave has got the mother's death certificate, but what will it reveal?

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The informant is the son,

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Roy Charles Walter Read.

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The certificate doesn't solve the mystery of Roy's sister. In fact, it throws up a new one.

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I don't think they actually know the full name of the husband.

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-It looks like, "Widow of - Read."

-So he doesn't know the name of his father?

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Well, yeah. Strange.

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It doesn't make sense.

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Dave Hadley's information isn't what David was looking for.

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The informant is the son, the deceased, but the son doesn't even know who his father's name was.

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The news hasn't helped the case move forward.

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The informant is the son, so the son doesn't even know the name of his father.

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That's a good start.

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With this question mark over Roy's father, and still no news on

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Roy's sister, will the team be able to find their way out of this dead end?

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The annoying thing is that we know the deceased had a sister

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and not knowing what happened to her is very frustrating.

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She could be floating around somewhere, she could be

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within a whisker of finding her, but we don't know what has happened to her.

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From that point of view, it's very frustrating. But we will get her eventually.

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They may find her sooner than they think with one crucial phone call from researcher Debbie.

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She's at Islington Town Hall where she's been looking up Roy and his sister's birth certificates.

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Birth of Doreen Cambridge Read.

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Read. Yes, no father.

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Roy's sister's birth certificate provides two key pieces of information.

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Firstly, there's no named father, so Doreen's father was not Mr Read.

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Secondly, she was given up for adoption at birth.

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Doreen is adopted out. Yes.

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Anyone who's working with Doreen, drop it.

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She's adopted out.

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This is a turning point because Doreen isn't entitled to any of Roy's £200,000 estate.

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The team will have to change the way they look at the case.

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Now we've picked up Doreen's birth certificate, it says across that that she's been adopted out of the family.

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That takes away all of the legal ties back into the estate, so we don't need to worry about her at all.

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We've now got to go on to the parents and the cousins and see where we go from there.

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With Doreen out of the picture, the heir hunters now need to find the next nearest kin.

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This could send them into more distant relatives.

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But Debbie has another bombshell to drop.

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This time about Roy's birth.

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"Birth of Roy Charles Walter, his father is Charles William Larter."

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The father is a milk roundsman.

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The father is Charles William Larter, milk roundsman.

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We have to find Charles William Larter.

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The case has been turned upside down.

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Now the team have found out that Roy was an illegitimate son of a milkman.

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If his real father, Charles Larter, had other children, there could be any number of half blood heirs.

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This is really how much we can change in five minutes.

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We've picked up the births of the sister of the deceased and of the deceased.

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The main thing is that the sister is adopted out and the deceased,

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although the mother is married, the father of the deceased isn't who she's married to.

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The father's name has totally changed, it's now a Mr Larter.

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We need to start working on him and we're still working on the mother.

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It's complicated to say at least at this time.

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The case has had a breakthrough but having lost nearly a whole morning to get to this stage,

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it's all hands to the pump to track down the newly-discovered side of Roy Read's family.

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Coming up later - the team are on to a family but is it the right one?

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I want to know from him if he knows the occupation of his grandfather.

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If he can say his grandfather was a milkman, then we're spot-on.

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For every case that is solved, there are still those that remain a mystery.

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Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that

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someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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With estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds,

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the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

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John Adler died in London in March 2008.

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So far, all efforts to trace his next of kin have drawn a blank.

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Maybe you hold the key to who should inherit his estate.

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Lucy Stepanski died in Holloway in London in November 2002.

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Her unusual surname should make her heirs easier to find.

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Could you be related to her?

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Sometimes a single clue can unlock a family secret. But some cases can prove incredibly complex.

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While bigger heir hunting companies have the resources to cope, also working the Government's list

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are many smaller firms.

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Hector Birchwood of Celtic Research specialises in trying to

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solve difficult cases that other are companies won't necessarily tackle.

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Hector also relies on certificates to move his research on, as happened with the case of Kenneth Yale.

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Kenneth Yale died in a Glasgow hospital aged 79 leaving no will and an estate of £12,000.

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The search to try and find his heirs led to the discovery of a skeleton in the Yale family closet.

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Patricia Fleming is a staff nurse at the Orchards Hospital in Glasgow where Kenneth Yale spent

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the last five years of his life.

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Kenny was very much an old school gent, would speak quite fondly of his time in the services.

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He came from a family of servicemen.

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I believe his father and his grandfather also. Quite a few close relationships with patients that

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have already been in the services, equally for long periods of time.

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Liked the old familiar.

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-Kenneth never married and had no apparent family.

-Kenny never had any visitors as such.

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There's a befriending service and also the chaplain, the hospital chaplain.

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Those were the only people other than ward staff that Kenny had contact with.

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Hector took up Kenneth's case. With only a name and a hospital address to go on,

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Hector's starting point was to find Kenneth's birth certificate to get his parents' details.

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The first hurdle we had was not being able to find a birth certificate for the deceased in Scotland.

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Yale isn't really a particularly Scottish name. There are people with the name Yale in Scotland,

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but it's not something that I would think is necessarily a Scottish name.

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And that's one of the reasons why I thought that the research should continue in England.

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Hector traced Kenneth's birth certificate to London.

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The certificate showed that Kenneth's father, James St Clair Madryn Yale,

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was a solicitor and had married a Grace Turbutt. But this wasn't his first marriage.

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When we discovered that James St Clair Yale had been previously married,

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we then went through the next stage, which is trying to see if he had any children from that marriage.

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He had one son, also called James.

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He died very young but we did find that he had children and that developed into us finding an heir.

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Kenneth's father, James, had a son from a previous marriage, Kenneth's half-brother.

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Hector's research showed that Kenneth's half-brother had a daughter.

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As his the only living heir, she was entitled to his £12,000 estate.

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It was quite a surprise.

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Disbelief, really.

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And it was very, very strange to know there was

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somebody that had obviously been relatively close, genetically, to me that I'd never known existed.

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So it was a very strange feeling.

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Nice to be inheriting something, but very sad to have not ever known the person that had left it for me.

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I think I can 100% say that my father did not know he had a half-brother.

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He'd known that his father was a solicitor or a barrister in London,

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And obviously that they had divorced when my father was very, very young.

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There was no contact between my father and his father following that.

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Hector is on his way over to Sonia's with the results of his latest research.

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I managed to get the divorce papers

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relating to the grandparents of our heir.

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I think she will probably find some of the information that we've uncovered rather surprising.

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HE KNOCKS ON DOOR

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As well as her grandparents' divorce papers, Hector has brought all the birth,

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marriage and death certificates used to connect Sonia to her half uncle, Kenneth.

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-That's the marriage of your grandparents.

-Ah, right.

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So here we have James St Clair with Louise Parsons, only a year apart.

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-They were quite young, weren't they?

-They were quite young, 22 and 21 years old.

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This is relating to the divorce papers for your grandparents.

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There are a few surprising facts here, from what you already know.

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The petition was filed on 14th May 1926.

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Six months later, the decree nisi was awarded.

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The second marriage of James St Clair indicates that

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maybe he was the party who divorced your grandmother.

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But if you look at the divorce proceedings and who is actually

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putting together the petition,

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the petitioner

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is Louise Yale.

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Before the 1920s, it was uncommon for wives to petition for divorce

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because women had to prove more grounds than men.

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However, after a change in law in 1923, divorce for women was more accessible.

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There was an important change in the law in 1923.

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Prior to that, a wife couldn't divorce her husband

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on the basis of his adultery alone.

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She had to also prove cruelty, desertion for two years or incest, bigamy, sodomy, bestiality or rape.

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After 1923, she could petition on the basis of adultery alone.

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At this time, you had to find a fault, a reason to divorce somebody.

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There was no such thing as a no-fault divorce. And normally adultery was the reason.

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The impression I got was that perhaps my grandfather wasn't the best husband in the world.

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And I think possibly adultery might have been in there,

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just from recollection of conversations I overheard.

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Well, you are right. Adultery does play a part in this.

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-Maybe not just adultery with one person.

-Oh dear!

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-Possibly with many.

-Oh.

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I'll just turn your attention quite quickly to

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paragraph five of the affidavit, where,

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"the respondent has frequently committed adultery with women

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-"whose names are unknown to your petitioner."

-Right.

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While Sonia's grandparents were waiting for the divorce to come through,

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her grandfather quickly moved on to a new relationship.

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He did marry again quite quickly, then, didn't he?

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Yeah, he didn't waste time.

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Very quickly, because Kenneth was born in '27.

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He didn't hang about.

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1927, so that's June 1927, less than a year after the divorce was granted.

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Kenneth's mother was not married to Sonia's grandfather when she conceived

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and there was still considerable social stigma attached to being an illegitimate child.

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Well, the timing of the divorce would have been quite crucial.

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The law had changed in 1927 to allow a child to be legitimated by a subsequent marriage.

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However, that only applied

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if neither of the parents was married to a third party at the time of the child's birth.

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The divorce timing worked out for Kenneth and his parents were married just 16 days before he was born.

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Because Sonia's grandfather successfully managed to keep

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his two children apart for their entire lives,

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Sonia knows very few details about her half uncle, Kenneth.

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There are no surviving photos of him so she doesn't even know what he looks like.

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-Today, she's travelling to the hospital where he died.

-I'd love to find out more about Kenneth.

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It's quite sad that, obviously, it would appear as though he had

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no other family other than myself and he didn't know of my existence.

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I do find that very sad that somebody has gone through life without anybody close,

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without any family, and has died without having access to any family.

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Yeah, I feel a bit sad, really, that

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he ended his life here.

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I'm sure it's a very nice place, but I don't think any of us particularly want to end our lives in

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a place like this.

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Sonia speaks to staff nurse Patricia Fleming,

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who is the only link she has to the half-uncle she never knew.

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That was my father in his army days.

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-He has the same jaw.

-Has he? Right.

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They have the same jaw.

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I don't know how old he would be, but I reckon he would be probably late teens.

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And that was him when he was older, he would be in his 40s there.

0:26:100:26:17

The exact same jaw but kind of much thinner up here.

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Her last stop is at Glasgow Crematorium, to pay her respects to her uncle.

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I wanted to come see where Uncle Kenny was cremated

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just for somebody to have acknowledged, really,

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that he was a relative of mine, even though we didn't know each other.

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I've been trying to find out a little bit about him and have found out a little bit.

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Hopefully, I'll continue over time to find out more.

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But it's nice to say farewell and I'm sorry I never knew you when you were here, Kenny.

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Every year, thousands of people live their lives totally unaware that a long-forgotten relative

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has died without leaving a will.

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Most unclaimed estates are valued at a few thousand pounds but some are worth millions.

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Maybe you hold the key to a mystery case?

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Could your memories shed light on who should lay claim to an estate?

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Stanislaus Ammer of Hereford passed away in September 2007.

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A distinctive name like that could revive long-forgotten memories.

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Can you recall anything about him? Do you know how to find his heirs?

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Martha Corner died in Palmers Green, London, in 2008. Her maiden name was Martha du Bois.

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Tracing relatives of this widow has so far proved impossible.

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Perhaps you can help find the heirs to her estate?

0:28:020:28:05

Back in London, Fraser & Fraser are trying to track down the family

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of Roy Read, who died with a £200,000 estate and no will.

0:28:160:28:21

They've been working on the case for five hours and have discovered

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Roy was the illegitimate son of a Charles Larter.

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We now have to find out something about Mr Larter, who is shown as a milkman on the birth certificate.

0:28:290:28:36

If he's married, if he had other children, they would be half-brothers and sisters.

0:28:360:28:43

Now the team are going into overdrive, trying to find out about Charles Larter, Roy's real father.

0:28:430:28:50

I have got a marriage for him in Paddington.

0:28:510:28:55

He's alive in 1931, isn't he?

0:28:550:28:57

What they already know is that Charles Larter owned

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the milk rounds in Shepherd's Bush, west London, from the 1920s.

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He worked for the Davies Bros Dairy in the days before electric milk floats and milk

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was delivered by hand.

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Could he have met Roy's mother on his rounds? Now the team know Charles Larter's name,

0:29:140:29:21

they need to find out if he had any other children.

0:29:210:29:25

They're under pressure to make up time after the slow start.

0:29:250:29:29

We're searching for a will on the basis that we know very little about Charles Larter.

0:29:290:29:34

If we can find a will, it will hopefully connect him in with our family.

0:29:360:29:40

There's also an address and things are indexed with addresses at probate so that might help.

0:29:400:29:46

So Neil's on his way, hopefully.

0:29:460:29:49

The confirmation of the name Larter means that there is a flood of new information to process.

0:29:490:29:55

And he's otherwise Larter?

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No, No. He was born as...

0:29:570:29:59

-Well, I haven't...

-Both parents signed the register, right?

0:29:590:30:02

-Yes.

-Fine, so his surname's Larter.

-We can check it on the machine and see if it's comes up under Larter.

0:30:020:30:07

It will be registered under Larter where does it say what the surname of the child is?

0:30:070:30:13

Case manager David Pacifico has been given details of a Charles Larter in London.

0:30:130:30:18

Could this be Roy's father?

0:30:180:30:21

There is a marriage of a Charles W Larter in Paddington in 1912, which could be the father.

0:30:210:30:27

And he's got six children, I think.

0:30:270:30:29

What we need to do is to find out on his marriage what his occupation is.

0:30:290:30:35

If it's a milkman, that's it.

0:30:350:30:36

It looks like there could well be half-brothers and sisters. They probably haven't got a clue.

0:30:360:30:41

The Charles Larter the team have found in Paddington married an Elizabeth Small

0:30:430:30:47

and together they had seven children but one, Peter, died in infancy.

0:30:470:30:53

If any of the others are alive, they could be Roy's half brothers or sisters, but first they

0:30:530:30:58

need to confirm if this Charles William Larter is Roy's father.

0:30:580:31:03

So it looks like he may have fathered five or six children from a marriage and on his rounds met this woman.

0:31:030:31:10

I forgot that, yes, he's a milkman, isn't he? He is the milkman. Yeah.

0:31:100:31:14

-"Your father was a milkman."

-He got friendly with one of his...customers.

0:31:140:31:20

It really is, sometimes it can be rather funny, this job.

0:31:230:31:27

It's a race for the researchers to get as much information on the six Larter children as possible.

0:31:290:31:34

-There are five or six births including a Ronald C who dies in 2005 in the Isle of Wight.

0:31:350:31:43

Charles Larter had a son, Ronald, who also had a son.

0:31:430:31:48

One phone call to him will confirm whether they're following up the right family.

0:31:480:31:52

It's the most important moment of the day so far because

0:31:520:31:55

it could be the breakthrough they've all been hoping for.

0:31:550:31:58

We are possibly about to make a phone call to

0:31:580:32:01

a half nephew of the deceased, potentially it's a half nephew.

0:32:010:32:04

I want to know if he knows the occupation of his grandfather.

0:32:060:32:10

If he can say his grandfather was a milkman, then we're spot on.

0:32:100:32:14

Hello, is that a Mr Larter? We're trying to trace a family

0:32:180:32:22

by the name of Larter originally from the London area.

0:32:220:32:25

Would I be right in saying that your father might have been a Ronald C Larter?

0:32:250:32:31

Now, your grandfather, do you remember his occupation at all?

0:32:310:32:36

It's the right family and David loses no time in establishing the whereabouts of the other relatives.

0:32:360:32:41

I know there was a Peter, Elizabeth, Muriel, Muriel's still alive, yeah?

0:32:430:32:48

This is exactly the call David was hoping for.

0:32:500:32:54

Thank you very much indeed for your help. Thank you. Bye-bye.

0:32:540:32:57

He actually confirmed that his grandfather worked for a dairy

0:32:590:33:04

and one time left his wife and went off with another woman.

0:33:040:33:08

The team are certain they've contacted the right family.

0:33:080:33:11

For Gareth, this means scores of names to track down

0:33:110:33:14

and the company believe other heir hunters are working on the case.

0:33:140:33:19

Whoever gets to the heirs first stands more of a chance of gaining a commission.

0:33:190:33:23

I think they're probably neck and neck with us, because it's quite easy to do, this case, really.

0:33:230:33:28

Once you've got the key ingredient for it, which was the birth of the deceased,

0:33:280:33:35

it's relatively easy to get on to. So that means it's easy for the competition to get on to as well.

0:33:350:33:41

Everyone pitches in with the research to ensure that

0:33:410:33:45

they find all the heirs as quickly as possible.

0:33:450:33:49

Charles Larter had five other children, Olive, Joan, Elizabeth, Dennis and Muriel.

0:33:500:33:57

They would all be in their 80s so the team are also looking for grandchildren.

0:33:570:34:02

Could Roy Read have known who his real father was?

0:34:020:34:05

And did he have any inkling that he had so many brothers and sisters?

0:34:050:34:09

Everybody's getting married so everybody

0:34:090:34:12

has to have an issue search done after them and all be found alive, so...

0:34:120:34:16

It's just a drag race.

0:34:170:34:19

There's no break for David, either.

0:34:220:34:25

I'm trying to trace an Elizabeth Sammels, formally Larter. Hello, Mrs Andrews?

0:34:250:34:30

-He's busy calling possible heirs.

-Dennis was another brother of yours.

0:34:300:34:35

Do you remember the name at all of his son?

0:34:350:34:37

Paul, was it?

0:34:370:34:39

-You had a sister Joan, I think.

-With every new phone call, he gets more information.

0:34:390:34:45

Did you have a sister, Olive?

0:34:450:34:47

Was she married? Any idea where Sylvia lives at all?

0:34:470:34:52

What's Muriel's married name, if I may?

0:34:520:34:55

But he's thriving under the pressure.

0:34:550:34:58

It's good fun, this is, and what it was looking like this morning, it looked absolutely frustrating,

0:34:580:35:05

frustration, but it shows you what a couple of civics can do.

0:35:050:35:08

The family tree is now taking shape.

0:35:080:35:12

The team have identified seven grandchildren of Charles Larter.

0:35:120:35:16

Sylvia, Christine, Terence, Christopher, Raymond, Jennifer and Paul.

0:35:160:35:22

These would all be Roy's half nephews and nieces.

0:35:220:35:27

And downstairs the researchers are finally able to fill in the blanks.

0:35:270:35:32

Trying to get the tree up to date at the moment.

0:35:320:35:34

Everybody is rushing so things get missed or put in the wrong place, so I'm making sure everything

0:35:340:35:40

that should be on it is on it and then I'll probably rewrite it so people can actually read it.

0:35:400:35:46

Now that they know there are living heirs, the teams send

0:35:460:35:49

their senior researchers out to meet them and fill them in on their lineage.

0:35:490:35:53

This is the moment heir hunters work towards.

0:35:530:35:55

Now they need to get there before the other companies, to sign them up and earn their commission.

0:35:550:36:01

Ewart, hi. Listen, we're up to date and I've got

0:36:010:36:03

-the first appointment for you, three o'clock or just before three o'clock at Hayes in Middlesex.

-OK.

0:36:030:36:10

'You're seeing Sylvia Andrews.'

0:36:100:36:12

I've also got an address in St Albans.

0:36:120:36:15

I'll try and phone that through and make that later on.

0:36:150:36:18

-'You've got some talking to do this afternoon anyway.'

-Yeah, all right.

0:36:180:36:22

That's where you'll be heading to, Hayes in Middlesex.

0:36:220:36:25

-'I'll leave that with you and good luck.'

-OK, cheers.

0:36:250:36:28

-You need to get someone down to Devon.

-Can you see if there's any other children of that marriage.

0:36:280:36:34

That's what we're doing. Hopefully we'll get something else.

0:36:340:36:38

Then we'll get somebody down there.

0:36:380:36:41

Bob Smith is the next traveller to be sent to meet an heir.

0:36:410:36:45

He's going to Devon to meet Charles Larter's grandson and Roy Read's half nephew.

0:36:450:36:50

It's been quite a swings and roundabouts day today.

0:36:520:36:55

First contact with the office this morning they said they didn't have anything for me, just drive in.

0:36:550:37:00

Half-an-hour later I'm told just come into the office.

0:37:000:37:04

500 yards from the office, please go to Devon!

0:37:040:37:07

That's life.

0:37:100:37:11

Life of a traveller.

0:37:140:37:16

In a final breakthrough the heir hunters have found

0:37:190:37:22

Christopher and Kathleen,

0:37:220:37:23

great-grandchildren of milkman Charles Larter

0:37:230:37:27

and heirs to Roy's estate.

0:37:270:37:28

We've just got a birth.

0:37:330:37:34

She's born in 1959, so we need to marry her off and find her now.

0:37:340:37:39

She'll be the most distant heir I think on this case.

0:37:390:37:42

David Hadley is sent to go out and visit them.

0:37:420:37:45

We're up to date with all the half blood.

0:37:450:37:48

'The person you're seeing is a Kathleen.

0:37:480:37:50

'She'd be the daughter of Christopher Larter

0:37:500:37:54

'and her father died about 1972-3.

0:37:540:37:58

'She's got a brother, Christopher, so she'll give you the information I hope.'

0:37:580:38:02

-OK.

-'OK?'

-All right then.

0:38:020:38:04

-'I'll catch up with you tomorrow then. Good luck.'

-All right, David.

0:38:040:38:08

We've got three travellers out, one's gone all the way down to Devon.

0:38:080:38:12

Another one's up in Suffolk.

0:38:120:38:14

Another one's in Middlesex

0:38:140:38:17

and then going on to hopefully St Albans later.

0:38:170:38:20

We shall see.

0:38:200:38:22

I think this has gone quite well. I'm quite pleased with it.

0:38:220:38:25

Research-wise, it's gone very well.

0:38:250:38:27

Unless we missed something, which is always a possibility.

0:38:270:38:31

But hopefully David's charming everybody.

0:38:310:38:35

It's 5pm and the office is wrapping up for the day.

0:38:360:38:38

But there's still a long evening ahead for David Hadley.

0:38:380:38:42

He's arrived at the house of Charles Larter's great-granddaughter Kathleen.

0:38:420:38:46

She'd be Roy Reid's great half-niece.

0:38:460:38:49

She's still taking in the news of her long-lost relative.

0:38:490:38:54

I don't know whether he explained to you what this is all about,

0:38:540:38:57

but basically Fraser & Fraser are a company of probate researchers.

0:38:570:39:01

We're working on a case at the moment and we believe that you're related

0:39:010:39:05

to the deceased and as such are entitled to a share of his estate.

0:39:050:39:09

I don't know how much you know about your family.

0:39:090:39:12

I actually lost touch with that side of the family

0:39:120:39:17

from the age of about 10 or 11.

0:39:170:39:19

Oh, right. Some questions about your father then.

0:39:190:39:22

-Do you know what his surname was?

-Larter.

0:39:220:39:26

And how about your grandfather? What do you know about him?

0:39:260:39:30

-Just that his name was Ron, Ronald.

-Yeah.

0:39:300:39:34

And I think he had a brother, Dennis.

0:39:340:39:39

So far as we know at the moment there was Dennis,

0:39:390:39:43

there was Joan, there was Olive,

0:39:430:39:46

there was Ronald, which would be your grandfather,

0:39:460:39:50

Muriel, Elizabeth and Peter.

0:39:500:39:52

Oh.

0:39:520:39:53

In fact, the deceased is half blood related to them.

0:39:550:40:01

The news about Roy has come as a big surprise to Kathleen.

0:40:010:40:06

It was quite a bombshell.

0:40:060:40:08

Coming home from work today and receiving a phone call...

0:40:080:40:11

..making me think about the past

0:40:130:40:17

and my family and things that I had forgotten really.

0:40:170:40:23

But, you know, if I stand to gain anything then that's great.

0:40:230:40:29

With one successful visit over, David Hadley heads over

0:40:350:40:38

to his second heir, Kathleen's brother, Christopher.

0:40:380:40:42

Your father was Christopher Larter, which you've confirmed.

0:40:420:40:45

-He had a brother, Terry.

-Yeah.

-And a sister, Christine.

0:40:450:40:48

-They always called her Tina.

-Yeah.

0:40:480:40:51

Then we've got your father's father was Ronald, Ronald Larter.

0:40:510:40:56

Yeah, Ron who died a couple of years ago.

0:40:560:40:59

Yeah. Then this is to do with a half-brother that Ron had.

0:40:590:41:03

Thank you very much, bye-bye.

0:41:050:41:07

-Take care.

-And you. Bye bye.

0:41:070:41:08

Thank you.

0:41:080:41:10

David is finally wrapping up after two good meetings.

0:41:100:41:13

I'm feeling quite good now.

0:41:140:41:16

It's been a long day but it's been worth it

0:41:160:41:19

and I think it's a job well done,

0:41:190:41:21

so I'm now going to make my way home again.

0:41:210:41:24

Both the heirs David met signed up with him, which means the company

0:41:250:41:29

will work on their behalf until they receive their inheritance money.

0:41:290:41:33

However, Bob and Ewart weren't so lucky.

0:41:330:41:36

In the end the heirs didn't give them their business, despite all of their hard work.

0:41:360:41:41

All in all the researchers in less than 24 hours have found

0:41:410:41:45

a remarkable eight heirs for Roy, a man thought to have no family.

0:41:450:41:49

It's been a productive day even after a slow start.

0:41:490:41:53

Changing from one tack to another is always a bit frustrating because you realise how much wasted work

0:41:530:41:58

you've done and in this case we had three or four hours of wasted work

0:41:580:42:02

with all of our researchers prior to switching to the right family,

0:42:020:42:05

and then within 20 minutes, we had found the first address

0:42:050:42:08

and we've got several children, all of which are now up-to-date, we found addresses for.

0:42:080:42:13

Indeed he still had two half sisters still alive.

0:42:130:42:17

I question whether they actually knew that their father

0:42:170:42:21

had had another son from another relationship,

0:42:210:42:24

but we'll find out in the long run, I suppose.

0:42:240:42:26

And for Roy Reid, his £200,000 estate will be going to a family

0:42:260:42:32

he probably never knew he had, and is his final act of generosity.

0:42:320:42:37

He was a very private man but he was also a very caring man

0:42:370:42:42

and he was a giver rather than a taker.

0:42:420:42:45

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