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Heir hunters track down the families of people who died without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
who had no idea they were in line for a windfall. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Could they be knocking at your door? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
On today's programme, the heir hunters track down a relative, but it leaves them uneasy. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:39 | |
It should never have been a case. Something like this should never have been a case. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
And in tracing the heirs to a £1 million property, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
the researchers uncover a woman's life full of lies, glamour and espionage. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
Joyce has lived a lie, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
telling people she was 30 years younger than her real date of birth. | 0:00:55 | 0:01:01 | |
And we'll have details of some of the hundreds of unclaimed estates. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Could you be in line for a windfall? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
More than two-thirds of people die without leaving a will. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
If no obvious relatives are found, their money goes to the Government, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
and last year they made a staggering £18 million from unclaimed estates. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
That's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Which is why the cousins, such as you, end up inheriting. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
There are more than 30 heir-hunting companies who make it their business to track down the rightful kin. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:35 | |
In 2008, they claimed back £6.5 million for unsuspecting heirs | 0:01:35 | 0:01:41 | |
who would have otherwise gone empty-handed. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
It's an amazing job we do, and it's got so much energy running through it. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
It's 7.00am at Fraser and Fraser, one of the oldest heir-hunting companies in London. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
The Treasury's list of people who have died without leaving a will has been announced. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
Heir hunters work on commission, so the first priority is to quickly work out which cases are of value | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
and then assign them to teams in the office. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
It's a nursing home housing association, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
and that's unregistered, so that's going to be council of some sort. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
They've already identified a case worth £200,000 to prioritise. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
We're looking at a case of Williams, it's Anthony Alfred Edward Williams. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:34 | |
He died in Bedford in '08, and I'm fairly certain | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
he owns the property. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Anthony Williams died aged 82 in his run-down house in Dunstable, Bedfordshire. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
He had an active youth as an RAF serviceman, but in his old age, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
he became more reclusive, as neighbour Caroline Hennessy recalls. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:59 | |
As friendly as I tried to be, I'd put my face in his face and say, "Morning," or, "Afternoon," | 0:02:59 | 0:03:05 | |
he would look at me and look beyond me, as it were, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
and mumble something like, "Mad woman won't leave me alone." | 0:03:08 | 0:03:13 | |
But you didn't get much of a response from him. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
He was happy doing his own thing. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Although Tony appeared to be content, he was a private man and valued his independence. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:25 | |
Tony wanted to be left alone. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
He didn't want to go into a home. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
He didn't want to die in hospital. He wanted to be left at home alone. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
And that's the life he chose, and that's the way he went. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
Tony never wrote a will, so his estate, including his house, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
which could be worth as much as £200,000, will all go to the Government if no heirs can be traced. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
The starting point for the heir hunters | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
is to try and get hold of Tony's birth and death certificates. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
These will have details of his parents on them and possibly of other family members. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
They can then use this information to start building up a family tree, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
layer by layer, which could lead them to siblings, uncles, aunts | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
or cousins, any of whom could inherit. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
But Tony's surname is not the easiest to research. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
Unfortunately, the surname is Williams. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
It's going to be pretty hard because it's very common. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
It comes out in Dunstable, which is up in Bedfordshire, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
just on the border of Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
Williams is the third most common surname in the country. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
At least the team know Tony's two middle initials, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
which should make it easier to make sure they're researching the right man. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
But they could do with a few more leads to go on, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
and one of the ways they generate them is to hit the road. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Heir-hunting doesn't just happen in the office. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
The firm have travelling employees who act as their eyes and ears up and down the country, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
doing detective work and getting their hands on key documents, and when heirs have been found, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:07 | |
it's these travellers who speed over to sign them up before the other companies and get their commission. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
Case manager David Pacifico is phoning one of the company's senior researchers, Ewart Lindsay, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:23 | |
to ask him to call on Tony Williams' neighbours. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
One of today's cases comes out in Dunstable. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
And, er, I've got to go and do an inquiry where the deceased used to live... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:39 | |
..and see what information I can find about the deceased. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:46 | |
In the office, the team are using their births, deaths and marriages records | 0:05:46 | 0:05:51 | |
to build and verify Tony's family tree. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
We've just found the marriage of the parents. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
The mother is Mabel Reynolds. We're cross-referencing at the moment. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
The researchers found that Tony Williams' parents were Percy and Mabel. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:08 | |
Now they can extend the search to see if he had any brothers or sisters who would be possible heirs. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:13 | |
While Ewart is on his way to Tony's hometown | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
and the researchers are cross-checking records, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
other members of the team are phoning Tony's neighbours. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Just one lucky phone call could save hours of research if they get a neighbour who knew Tony well. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:36 | |
I wonder whether your family knew him at all. We're trying to find his next of kin. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
No knowledge of him at all? Thank you for your time, anyway. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
I'm sorry to disturb you. Bye-bye. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
No luck for case manager Marcus, but elsewhere in the office they've come up with a lead. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
This neighbour here stated that the deceased lived alone for over 23 years | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
and owned a property which is in a bad state of repair now. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
I spoke to another neighbour who was convinced he had been previously married. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
Although it's only hearsay at this stage, if Tony was married, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
his wife could be the heir, or their children, if they had any. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
But the neighbour also thinks that they separated. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
It doesn't necessarily mean that they were divorced, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
and if there isn't a valid divorce, then she would be the first heir, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
she would have the greatest entitlement. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
If Tony and his wife had separated but not divorced, under British inheritance law, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
that would mean she would still inherit | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
because the spouse is always at the top of the list of potential heirs. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
Only a divorce can annul the spouse's claim to the inheritance. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
In Dunstable, Ewart is hoping to get hold of Tony's neighbours | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
before they leave for work to find out what they knew about him. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
He's not having much luck. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
But just as he's about to leave, his luck changes. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
He did say that he had a sister, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
er...you know, in passing conversation. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
I think she lived round | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
-the Reading or Oxford area. -OK, all right. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
It's a coup for Ewart. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
After spouses, if there are no surviving children or parents, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
siblings are the next in line to inherit. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
So if Tony's sister has outlived Tony's wife, she would be entitled to his entire estate. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
But Ewart isn't the first to get the news. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
They've already picked this up at the office and pipped him to the post. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:55 | |
We've found the birth of a sister of the deceased, which is interesting news. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
Her name is Margaret. It's extremely important to track down the sister, a very close relation. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:05 | |
There are now two very close potential heirs. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
But who will inherent Tony Williams' £200,000 estate - his wife or his sister? | 0:09:12 | 0:09:18 | |
Although heir hunters aim to find relatives as quickly as possible to beat their competitors, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
the more complex cases can leave them foxed for weeks or months before they get solved. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
Joyce Hanafy's was one such case. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
This case of Hanafy was particularly hard, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
and every little breakthrough helped show us a picture. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
As the researchers slowly unravelled the story of her life, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
they discovered a glamorous woman who was involved in the performing arts, modelling and even espionage. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:03 | |
But Joyce's circumstances at the end of her life were very different from those in her youth. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
She died in 2006 in a nursing home in Wandsworth, London. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:16 | |
No-one there knew of any family to claim her estate | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
or organise her funeral, and so it was overseen by the council | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
Shirley Heaver and Wendy Allison work at the nursing home where Joyce died. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:28 | |
She was a very private lady, um... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
She told us that she did ballet. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Whether she taught it or...danced it, we don't know. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:42 | |
She only wanted to tell you what she wanted to. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
And you would try to pump her, but she'd clam up. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
We didn't think she had any family, um... | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
She sort of really was a recluse, that's how I would have taken her. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:59 | |
She had a lodger...but that was it. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
But this private woman had several secrets, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
not least the fact that she owned a very valuable property. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
She lived in Putney in a £1 million house | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
that was actually falling down around her. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
And, like, we was like, "My God." | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Couldn't believe it! | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
Joyce didn't leave a will, and as no-one knew of any family, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
her £1 million house went onto the Treasury's unclaimed estates list. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
Straightaway, Neil Fraser knew this was a case they had to crack. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
When we're dealing with an estate advertised at £1 million, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:45 | |
it means we have to be on our A game. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
One little slip could mean a fortune to the firm. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
It could make or break our year. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
Neil set about working up the Hanafy family tree, starting with Joyce herself. | 0:11:54 | 0:12:00 | |
The date of death is in 2006, the death is registered in Kingston, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
and when we've got the certificate, it clearly says her date of birth is 11th July 1952. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
Now Neil knew when Joyce was born, but if he could find her birth certificate, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
he would know the name of her parents. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
When we look on the birth indexes, there isn't a corresponding birth for her. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
At this point, Neil decided it was time to up the ante and get more manpower on the case. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:31 | |
There are only a few Hanafys in the country in the early 1900s, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
so finding any instance of it could provide a clue. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
Because we're working a good name, we're listing everything. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
Every occurrence of the surname, we'll write it down, we'll take it out. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
We'll be looking at deaths, marriages, births all at the same time. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
On a case of this size, we'd stick the whole office on it. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
We'd have quite a lot of staff all researching and all doing their own little bit of research. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:59 | |
The £1 million property that the office was working to find heirs for | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
had been in the Hanafy family for 60 years. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
Despite its value, Joyce's wealth was tied up in its bricks and mortar. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
She had no income to maintain the house, and it fell into disrepair. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
What little money came in was from lodgers like Martin Geoff, who moved into the Putney house in 1995. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:22 | |
On occasions, I said to her that it would make sense for her | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
to actually considering selling up and moving to another part of London | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
where she could start again as a landlady | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
with better conditions and have a better income, and she would simply not entertain this. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:42 | |
So the house was a part of her. It was as if she was | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
on kind of an elastic band | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
that she could only go so far and it would reel her back in again. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
Joyce's insistence on remaining in the house with no means of maintaining it | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
led to its eventual dilapidation, and it is now uninhabitable. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
Andrew Fraser is at the property for an inspection. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
One of the partners in the company, Andrew trained as a surveyor, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
and his role in the company is to represent heirs in the sales of properties and other assets. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
We're in Putney, in a very desirable part of London, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
where this property is surrounded by multimillion-pound homes. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:29 | |
And it's particularly sad when we come and look through a house, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
and we see that someone has all this paper wealth tied up in their assets, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:39 | |
but they have no money at all to spend on living and enjoy life with. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:46 | |
I think in this room we just clear it up, make it safe. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
Get the gas cut off. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Although the house is less valuable than others on the street | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
because of ruinous state, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:58 | |
it will still represent a huge windfall to any heirs once it has been sold. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
In the office, the team had been researching every instance of the name Hanafy throughout the 1900s. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:12 | |
It was such a rare name that each occurrence could provide a clue to finding members of Joyce's family. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:18 | |
But they hit a stumbling block when it came to Joyce herself. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
On the screen here, we have a Joyce A Hanafy, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
the birth for her, but that birth is in 1922. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
The dates didn't match. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Joyce's death certificate stated she died aged 54, but the birth record | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
they had found for a Joyce Hanafy said she was born 30 years earlier. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
Could it be people believed this glamorous woman was 30 years younger than she really was? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
Although we occasionally get variations in the age of the deceased, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
the date of birth, and I've known of two, three, four, maybe even five years' difference | 0:15:57 | 0:16:03 | |
from the date of birth on the death certificate to the real date of birth. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
No-one has ever heard of anyone being registered 30 years out. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
I was pretty convinced we've got the right birth. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
Everything seemed to fit. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
There was births around, deaths around. Everything seems to tie up | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
being a typing error on the death certificate, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
and instead of saying 1922, it says 1952. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
But there was no such luck for Neil. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
This turned out to be far from a straightforward typing error. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
We got to speak to the nursing home where Joyce passed away. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Now, they were convinced she had told everyone she was only 54 years of age | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
and the 1952 date of birth was actually the correct one. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
So it wasn't a typing error at all, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
and this suddenly...our heart sunk. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
We thought we'd been working the wrong family, we had put 2 and 2 together, we'd made 22. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
It all seemed to fit, but there was something wrong. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
As the nursing home had confirmed that Joyce was in her 50s, Neil was stuck. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
There was only one instance of a Joyce Hanafy, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
but no-one could understand why the records of her birth year were so different. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Unless they could make the dates tie up, the £1 million property would remain unclaimed. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
To move the case on, they started researching Joyce's parents. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:23 | |
Joyce's father was doctor. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
I don't know much about him at all. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
I understood that he had been in uniform, in the Army perhaps. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:36 | |
But she never really went into any details about that. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Doctors are relatively easy to research for heir hunters, because in order to practise, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
it's a legal requirement that their details are kept on record in the medical registers. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:51 | |
So Neil looked for a Dr Hanafy who could have been Joyce's father. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
In this book here from 1921, it has the entry for John Zaky Hanafy. | 0:17:54 | 0:18:01 | |
With this being from 1921, it's only a year before the birth certificate we have of Joyce. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:07 | |
So we have enough evidence to prove that John Zaky Hanafy is the father. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:13 | |
He's in the right place at the right time to have a child called Joyce. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
So everything ties up with this being the right gentleman. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
We can trace his movements back around the country, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
enabling us to say that he is the same gentleman who also lived down in Putney in southeast London | 0:18:23 | 0:18:30 | |
and it's the same family as what we're trying to look for. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
The medical journals prove that Dr John Zaky Hanafy lived in the same district as Joyce. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
They also indicated that he had an outstanding career as a doctor. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
It also has his OBE in here. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
In 1921, he had an OBE, and he was only qualified in 1914, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
so he's done something quite dramatic in those six or seven years since he qualified. | 0:18:55 | 0:19:00 | |
John Zaky Hanafy emigrated from Egypt to London to study medicine in the early 1900s. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:08 | |
He had only just sat his medical exams at the Royal College of Surgeons | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
when World War One broke out. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
During the Great War, he worked at the King George military hospital, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
which was on London's South Bank, dealing with victims of horrendous trench warfare. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
Half of fighting soldiers were injured, maimed or shell-shocked, and 10% died. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
It must have been a terrifying training ground for a young surgeon, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
but one where he could have made an enormous difference. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:36 | |
John Zaky Hanafy was awarded an OBE for his services as a surgeon in 1920. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:41 | |
All the dates, records and locations the team had found were pointing to the fact that they had found | 0:19:45 | 0:19:51 | |
the right family, apart from one, Joyce Hanafy's death certificate which said she was born in 1952. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
This date seemed to contradict everything they were finding. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
In an attempt to get to the bottom of it, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
senior researcher Bob Barratt went down to Joyce's neighbourhood in Putney. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:13 | |
I called on the neighbours of Joyce to see if I could find anything out about her or relatives. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:20 | |
They all described her in much the same way, as a bit of an eccentric, a bit of a loner, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
altogether quite a strange woman. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
No-one knew much about her family, but they did describe her as being in her mid-70s. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:36 | |
This news was a godsend for Neil. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
The neighbours all thought that Joyce Hanafy was much older than 54, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
which strengthened his belief that the date on her death certificate was wrong. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Everything started to make sense, and I started to have more confidence | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
that we were researching the right family. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Joyce was in fact 84 years old when she died and had disguised her true date of birth to everyone. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:03 | |
The news came as a big shock to Shirley and Wendy at the nursing home. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
-She had a very young face, didn't she? -Yeah, she did. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Unbelievable, honestly. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
-I remember saying, "She's younger than me." -Yeah. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
I mean, we first was told she was in her 50s. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
I would have said...60s, late 60s. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
She had lovely skin. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Well, finding out that Joyce was in her 80s...is really quite amazing. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:34 | |
Joyce had managed to convince nearly everyone she was 30 years younger than she was, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
which explained why her death certificate had the wrong birth date on. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:44 | |
Usually, when we're dealing with official documents, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
we find that people don't lie, that people tell the truth, but there may be mistakes on them. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
It's less common for people to lie their whole life about their age. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
Joyce has lived a lie, telling people she was 30 years younger than her real date of birth. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:05 | |
That's a huge time period. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
And she must have been a good-looking woman to get away with that for so long. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
A major obstacle to solving the case had been removed, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
but the research would throw up even more surprises - espionage, fighter pilots and a trip to Egypt. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:26 | |
For every case that is solved, there are still those that stubbornly remain a mystery. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:46 | |
Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
that eventually someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
the rightful heirs are out there somewhere. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Margaret Sullivan, of Reading in Berkshire, died in April 2007. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
Does her name bring memories flooding back? | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
Could she even be a distant relative of yours? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Spinster Olive Thurston died in Boston in Lincolnshire in December 2006. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
Over two years later, her estate is still unclaimed. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
Do you know anything about her? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:33 | |
Could you even be related and missing out on your inheritance? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
Fraser and Fraser have been working on the case of Tony Williams. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
It's still only 9.00am, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
but they've learned from a neighbour that Tony had a wife who may still be alive. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
They also know he had a sister who, after his wife, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
would be next in line to inherit the estate of £200,000. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:03 | |
But so far, they haven't traced either of them. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
We need to find the wife's name and then check to see if there is a divorce. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
At the same time, obviously, we're looking for the sister to see if she was married. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
And we'll also be looking at | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
near kin of that, cousins and so on. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
Gareth has been given the job of finding Tony's extended family. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
He's using the census, which is a record made every ten years | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
of all the people who live in UK households. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
It should reveal whether Tony's parents had brothers and sisters. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
While he does this, David is trying to find Tony's wife. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
We've now found the deceased's marriage. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
If the inquiry is right and she walked out, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
we have to find her and find out whether they're divorced, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
if she's still alive. She could still be married to him. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
It's been confirmed that Tony married a Ruby Leno in 1954, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
but they still need to find out whether she is alive. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Gareth's search is also producing results. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
There's an uncle of the deceased called Lewis... | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
..so I'm hoping... I've got his marriage and I've got a couple of kids. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
And hopefully we'll be able to get the first cousin up to date, and we can speak to them. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
Now the investigation could go in many directions. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
The team not only know that Tony had a wife and a sister, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
but they've also found an uncle and three potential first cousins on his mother's side. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
Because we're such a large firm as we are | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
and we have so many researchers working on stuff, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
we can actually work the wife of the deceased, looking for kin off that, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
the sister of the deceased, looking for nephews and nieces, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
all near kin, as well as working the cousins, so we're working on three different prongs at the moment. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
Hopefully, one of them will come through. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
One of them might be about to. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
David Pacifico has some breaking news. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
We've now traced a marriage for the sister, and it looks like | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
she's still alive, and we've got an address and phone number, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
so I'm now going to try the call to her and hope I'm not too late. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
Finding Tony's sister is a breakthrough, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
but as his details were on the unclaimed estates list, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
it's possible that she hasn't had news of his death, so the phone call may not be an easy one. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
We're trying to trace a Margaret Rush whose maiden name would be Williams. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
And hopefully you might be the daughter of a Percy Williams? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Now, I believe, and I'm sorry to say this, but you had a brother, I think. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:53 | |
Right. I'm sorry to say unfortunately he has since passed away. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
David has had to break the news of Tony's death. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
It's a call the heir hunters dread, and none of them envy him. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
Because we don't know the relationship between the deceased | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
and the near kin, whether that's a sister or a child or a wife even, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
because we don't know the relationship or what happened, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
why they've lost contact, it's difficult for us to approach it | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
or know how to approach it, so we just have to be as gentle and considerate as possible. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:31 | |
You never know how someone's going to react, it's very difficult. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:38 | |
David now has to find out whether Tony's wife is alive or divorced | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
to work out whether his sister Margaret will inherit. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
The thing we're also trying to identify, that he was married, I believe? | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
Oh, she passed away? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Was that Ruby at all? Right. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
Margaret has revealed that Tony and his wife were in fact happily married, | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
but that she died 35 years ago and there were no children, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
which means Margaret is the sole heir to the £200,000 estate. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
But she was closer to her brother than David expected. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
Thank you very much. Bye-bye. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Oh, that was... She got a birthday card back in February from her brother. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Can you believe? Yeah. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
Didn't see much of him, but had a birthday card. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
Tony was in touch with Margaret just two months before he died, yet the various authorities | 0:28:37 | 0:28:43 | |
who are responsible for making the arrangements | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
after a body is discovered all failed to track her down. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
As a result, seven months have gone by without her knowing of his death. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
David Pacifico is astonished. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
She got a birthday card from her brother in February. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
When did he die? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
April. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
So she knows exactly where he lived. The wife dies 35 years ago. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
Dies 35 years ago? | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Now the heir has been confirmed, the office need to send someone | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
to see her who can handle the case with care. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
Ewart is a sensitive guy, can be rather sensitive, | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
so hopefully, you know...we'll see how it goes. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Often you are the first, you know, person to give them that shocking news | 0:29:29 | 0:29:35 | |
that their brother has died or their mother has died, you know, | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
and, yes, you're seeing that initial shock on their face straight off, you know. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:46 | |
It's a... It can be difficult at times. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
The case is coming to a close, and now the team just have to confirm | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
the facts they've learned from David's phone call to Tony's sister. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
What did the deceased's sister say about...Ruby? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
Ruby died definitely 35 years ago, and she said she's buried in Slip End Cemetery in Dunstable. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:12 | |
It's only 10.00am. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
As the rest of the office continues to be a hive of activity while they work other cases, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
David is reflecting on how the system failed for his. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
It should never have been a case. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
Something like this should never have been a case. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
I mean, for her to get a birthday card in February | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
and then not know he's died, I can't figure this one out. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
So she's going to be in his address book. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
-Yeah. -Probably under "sister". | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
It should never have been a case. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
It's so ridiculous that somebody like us would have to come along and tell her several months later. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
Ewart has been in a delicate meeting with Margaret, Tony Williams' sister, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
who has been taking in the news of her brother's death. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Even though she's still in a state of shock | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
about finding out about the news about her brother dying, but, er... | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
at least she signed, and we'll take care of it for her. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
After Ewart's visit, Margaret is left to reflect on the morning's unexpected news. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
It took me a little while to...to...what he was on about. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
And then it suddenly occurred to me, and I said, "Tony Williams is my brother." | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
And so I said, "What has happened to him? Where... | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
"Is there something wrong?" | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
and he said, "I'm afraid your brother has died." | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
Well, it was just like something sort of being, you know... | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
I really was taken aback. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
She and Tony were once close. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
When his wife died, and she was only 47, | 0:32:03 | 0:32:08 | |
we became very close then, because he would come here and we used to go on holiday together. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:15 | |
And he really did enjoy himself. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Over time, Tony grew more solitary, and it became difficult for Margaret to stay in touch. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:29 | |
He had his phone removed, which really made me cross | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
because I couldn't contact him, and I thought that was so silly. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:40 | |
And getting to the age that he was and not having a telephone was quite absurd. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
He contacted me on somebody's pay phone, | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
and he always used to only have a certain amount of money, | 0:32:48 | 0:32:54 | |
so the conversation couldn't go on too long | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
and I wouldn't ask too many questions! SHE LAUGHS | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
Tony's isolation delayed news of his death reaching Margaret. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
But now that it has, his £200,000 estate will go to her. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
I might buy a decent bottle of something and toast Tony. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
He'd agree with that. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
Although Tony chose solitude towards the end of his life, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
he was remembered by his sister and ultimately reconnected with her thanks to the heir hunters. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
It only took a few hours' work to solve Tony Williams' case, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:42 | |
but it took the heir hunters several weeks to complete Joyce Hanafy's. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
Andrew Fraser assessed her £1 million house before it was sold. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
Well, what I did locate in the house were these photographs of what would appear to be | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
a very glamorous potential lifestyle she lived in London in the 1960s. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:03 | |
And again we have some earlier photographs of what would appear to be Joyce on stage as a dancer. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:10 | |
The items in Joyce's house paint a picture of a woman who led an exciting life, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:18 | |
performing ballet, modelling and working in the nightclubs of Soho. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
It seemed that Joyce was no shrinking violet. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
The team had found records for Joyce's father. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
Now the search was on for her mother. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Once they had found both parents, they would be able to look for siblings, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
nephews or nieces who could inherit. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
But anxious to get ahead of the game, Neil was taking a guess on a Hanafy he'd found in London. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
In this case, I tried to cut out a corner, I tried to beat that process, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
because we'd already identified a death, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
a death of a Florence Mary Hanafy in Wandsworth, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
and I was fairly confident that was going to be the mother. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
Neil thought he'd stumbled on Joyce's mother. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Florence South married a Hanafy and died in the same area as Joyce. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
All he had to do was check Joyce's father's marriage record to see if he'd married a Florence. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
Although I thought I'd cracked it, I thought I'd identified the mother and wasn't I clever, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
suddenly we came across a little hiccup. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
When we had now found the marriage of the Hanafy to South, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
it cross-checked to an Agnes, an Agnes M, and Agnes is not Florence. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
Neil had come across another obstacle. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
Who did marry Dr Hanafy, Florence South or Agnes South? | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
What we have here is a census, this is for Bromley in Kent, and on here we have a South family. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:55 | |
The father is Henry, and down here we have a Florence M South, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and above that, her older sister is an Agnes M South. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
And suddenly stuff started making a bit more sense, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
and we thought we had two sisters marrying the same gentleman. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
Joyce's father Dr John Hanafy had married Agnes South, and together they had Joyce. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:16 | |
When Agnes died 20 years later, he then re-married her younger sister Florence within a year, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
when Joyce was 14. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Now they had established Joyce's parents, the team could build the family tree. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
They found that she had a brother called John, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
who was in the RAF during the Second World War, but like many pilots, sadly, he didn't survive. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
John Theodor, however, passed away in 1943. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
He was in the Air Force as a flying officer and was shot down. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
So suddenly, within a ten-year period, Joyce's life has gone...through turmoil. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
Her mother's passed away, her father's remarried. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
Her brother, who she must have been close to after her mother passed away, has also been killed. | 0:36:54 | 0:37:00 | |
From this ideal lifestyle she probably had in a pretty well-to do family, with a good occupation, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
quite a bit of money coming in through her father, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
suddenly her whole world has been turned upside down. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Since Joyce's brother had died without children, the next stage was to look for uncles and aunts. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:18 | |
While Neil broadened the search, he came across some startling records. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:23 | |
We've identified a record for a Joyce Amelia Hanafy. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:28 | |
Quite clearly it says here born on 1/6/1922, so we know that's our lady. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:34 | |
So we've got a record here, and that is a personnel file | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
from the Second World War. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
And it's from the SOE, so that's the Special Operations Executive. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Now, these are the wartime equivalent of the current MI6. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
The Special Operations Executive trained people for World War Two resistance work. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:57 | |
Joyce had been approached to be a spy. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Roderick Bailey is a historian and an SOE expert. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
The Special Operations Executive, SOE, was set up in 1940 | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
to carry out sabotage and encourage resistance behind enemy lines. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
It was pretty small to begin with, but by the end of the war, | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
it had grown into quite a formidable organisation. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Some of the deeds and actions it carried out | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
were amongst the most daring and dramatic carried out by Allied Forces. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
In 1944, when Joyce was approached, Britain had been in the grip of war for nearly five years. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:35 | |
The Government called on everyone who could contribute to the war effort to do so, | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
whether by fighting on the frontline or helping on the home front. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
But some of the most dangerous work was behind enemy lines. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
At the point that Joyce was recruited as a trainee agent, we know that she was 21 years old. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:52 | |
She had finished at Durham University and was undergoing teacher training. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
And also it is apparent that her command of French | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
and her intelligence had impressed someone enough to give her a tap on the shoulder, | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
and significantly she seems to have been under consideration by SOE | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
to be an agent to be dropped into occupied France. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
The SOE sent over 400 agents to occupied France | 0:39:11 | 0:39:16 | |
to undertake high-risk missions where they were incredibly vulnerable. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
Few women were taken on, and as with all agents, they were carefully vetted. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:26 | |
Joyce's file has been opened for the first time in over 60 years. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
The file shows that Joyce Hanafy's involvement with SOE was brief. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:38 | |
It seems that she did not seem suitable to the assessors | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
as an agent in occupied France. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
The file makes a number of harsh comments about her character. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
It says, "She is spoilt, affected, greedy for admiration and vain and superficial." | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
I think it's important to acknowledge the fact that she got this far, | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
that she was considered as an agent and that she underwent tests. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
Also, of course, that she was, as the assessors remark here, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
that she was "intelligent, had a retentive memory and has adequate courage." | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
Even to be considered was quite something. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Although the researchers were finding out more and more about | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Joyce's extraordinary life, they had yet to find heirs to her £1m estate. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:21 | |
So far, they had found her parents and also her brother, who died without children. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:26 | |
The next stage was to research her Egyptian grandfather | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
and see if he had other children who would be Joyce's uncles and aunts. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:34 | |
We get his occupation from the marriage certificates, of which John has two, the one to the mother, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:40 | |
Agnes, and then the one to the aunt of the deceased, or the stepmother, Florence, several years later. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:47 | |
On these marriages, the occupation is significant. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
On the second one he's a landowner, and the other one says he's a judge, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:57 | |
and a judge is an occupation where there are records about, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
and suddenly I was convinced I would be able to find the family if only I could go to Egypt. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:06 | |
Neil's research in Egypt paid off. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
Joyce's grandfather had three children - John, Ismail and Amina. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:15 | |
Four of Amina's grandchildren who are still alive are heirs. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
They would be Joyce's first cousins once removed. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
When Neil met them, they were all fascinated to find out more about this long-lost branch of the family. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:29 | |
All they knew of the father was that he'd gone to England to study medicine | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
and that was the last they'd heard of him, he'd never come home. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
And indeed, just having this one person who had gone off, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
who they thought was the black sheep almost of their family | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
was something they didn't want to talk about until they worked out | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
that their black sheep had lived an incredible life, receiving an OBE from the Queen | 0:41:48 | 0:41:55 | |
and his work with the British Army in the Medical Corps | 0:41:55 | 0:42:01 | |
was something they are now immensely proud of. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Neil found four Egyptian heirs who will all have a share in Joyce's £1 million estate. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:10 | |
I solved a case which, from the onset, no-one thought would be solvable. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:19 | |
They didn't think we would ever be finding beneficiaries. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Not only that, but we're talking of an estate worth a huge amount of money. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
So, incredibly good feeling about solving the case. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
Neil's work has ensured that he not only has earned a valuable commission for the company, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:35 | |
but on a more personal level that Joyce's heirs in Egypt have regained a part | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
of their family history that they thought they'd lost forever and one in which they can take pride. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:44 | |
If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:54 | |
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