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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down the families of people who died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives

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who had no idea they were in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme, the team find themselves

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up to their armpits in heirs.

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With the amount of people that are involved and the size of the tree,

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people will be lucky if they get tuppence ha'penny at this rate.

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And there's a surprise in store for one heir who believed her family were poor.

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This was a complete surprise to me.

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My family had no money at all. Nothing.

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Plus the unclaimed estates sitting dormant at the Treasury,

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are you about to inherit a fortune?

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Every year in Britain, over two thirds of people die without leaving a will,

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and when no heir can be found, their money goes to the Government.

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Last year, the Treasury made a colossal £18 million from unclaimed estates,

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while only £6.5 million was ever claimed back by heirs.

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Hoping to gain a commission, more than 30 probate research companies

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race against one another to track down and sign up long lost relatives entitled to inherit.

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Hello. Sheila Kingsland?

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-Hello, David.

-Hello, there.

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Fraser & Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in Britain,

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and is run by Andrew, Neil and Charles Fraser.

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One of the areas I enjoy is the sort of mystery element of it.

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Each family is different from the previous one that we've looked at,

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and it's totally different from the next one that we look at.

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In its 30 year history, the company has clawed back over £100 million

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from the Government and handed it back to more than 50,000 fortunate heirs.

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It's 11am, and the team are having an extraordinarily busy morning.

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They're overrun with the names of people who died without leaving a will,

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but they only have the place and date they died

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with no way of knowing how valuable the estates are.

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All right, I've done one, two and 12. Any more?

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The team do a search on each name

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to find out if they owned a house and are therefore likely to have the highest value.

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-Well, there's nothing coming up as her owning the property.

-She did.

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They have to be pretty sure which cases are financially viable.

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-Well, the ground floor flat.

-I believe was the deceased's.

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The point is, she did live there, right?

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So, we've got to get that death before we know where we're going,

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so we know which birth's right, so we might as well go down to Paul.

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-Either way, there's a flat there with money on it. There was money in it at some point.

-Yeah, it's a possibility.

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Widow Hilda Bentley Watkinson died in Poole, Dorset, in 2008.

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Known to friends as Babs,

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she at one time owned a High Street flat with her late husband,

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opposite Peter Mallory's second hand furniture shop.

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Well, I'd known Babs for a few years.

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She was a bubbly,

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fun loving lady.

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She was very friendly with people,

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and if she could help you in any way, she would.

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I hadn't realised that she had died last year and I know that,

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from my point of view, she's going to be sadly missed.

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The team believe that Hilda sold her flat in 2006 for £120,000,

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but have no subsequent address for her.

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They need to get a researcher on the road to find out more.

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Right, listen, mate, we've got a shed load of jobs out here.

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-'There's something down in Poole in Dorset.'

-Right.

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-'Could you pop down there?'

-Pop down to Poole? Okey-doke.

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Frasers employ a team of travelling heir hunters based all over the country

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who await the call to be sent wherever the search takes them.

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They follow up leads and hunches and glean as much information

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-as they can about the deceased by knocking on doors and collecting certificates.

-Thanks very much.

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Hoping to track down an heir before the competition beats them to it.

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Looking for Hilda's last place of residence,

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senior researcher Bob Barrett

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is at Poole Register Office collecting her death certificate.

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Right, I've got the death certificate for Hilda Watkinson.

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It tells you that she died in a nursing home in Branscombe,

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which I don't think is too far away.

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Now the team know that Hilda

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spent the last two years of her life in a nursing home.

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This has huge financial implications.

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Although her flat sold for £120,000 in 2006,

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her care fees will have made a hefty impact on her finances.

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Value wise on this, our feeling at the moment is that,

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although she didn't own the property where she's passed away,

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and she possibly owned the property prior to moving into this residential care environment,

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so it's a bit hard to say what the value is,

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but we think there's going to be something there, it's not, however, going to be huge.

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Probably between 50,000 and 100,000, maybe.

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It's quite a drop from their initial calculations.

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Nursing homes can make a significant dent in people's savings,

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as Elizabeth Feltoe from Help The Aged explains.

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By far the most popular place to retire in the UK

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is along the south coast somewhere.

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The statistics show us that in the south west of England

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and the south east of England,

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there is a very large proportion of older people in those areas.

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If you live in the south of England, you're a female and you're over 85,

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you have a one in five chance of living in a care home towards the end of your life.

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It's a big proportion of people.

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The south coast is without doubt the care home capital of the UK.

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Poole has an enormous proportion of homes for the elderly.

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Enticed by the clement weather, coastal air and sandy beaches,

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it's a popular choice for people wishing

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to retire by the seaside, but care can cost as much as £1,000 a week.

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If you're paying for a care home out of your own wealth, and it's on average about £25,000 a year,

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you can imagine in three or four years you've eaten up, basically, £100,000,

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and that's as an average.

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It could be a lot more than that.

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So, it really does reduce the value of people's capital in a really big way.

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Nice to meet you, anyway. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

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Bob is hoping the nursing home will hold records on Hilda,

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and someone may remember details of family and friends who visited her.

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The staff wouldn't give me any information at all

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until they had spoken to their manager,

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who's not back till Monday.

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OK, well, to be quite honest with you at the moment there's nothing else.

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They're all from the Croydon area.

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Yeah, I see she was born in Mitcham.

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You're probably in the wrong part of the country.

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OK. Well, I'll start heading back towards Surrey, then, and wait to hear.

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-Absolutely, yeah.

-OK, Frances.

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-All right.

-Bye, now.

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Bob heads back to the area Hilda was born in.

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To move this case forward, they need to know who Hilda's parents and siblings were,

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etching in the blanks of her family tree, generation by generation,

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until they find her heirs.

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We've pretty much decided now there isn't any near kin on this,

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which means we're certainly going back.

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It means we're researching cousins.

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Looking firstly for the uncles and aunts of the deceased,

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so the brothers and sisters of the parents of the deceased,

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and from there we're going to find their descendants and come down.

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Hilda Bentley Watkinson and her husband, Ronald,

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are believed to have had no children,

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so there are no descendants to trace from their marriage.

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Moving up the tree, Hilda had a brother, Stanley,

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but he died as a baby.

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So, the team will begin their search by tracing her parents,

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Richard Elmes and Beatrice Pocock.

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Case manager Dave Slee is starting enquiries.

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So far... You've caught me just at the early stages.

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We've been able to find the father's birth in 1890 in West Ham,

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and he was the son of Richard Thomas Elmes

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and Mary Anne, we don't know her maiden name yet,

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and we've picked them up from the 1901 census.

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In fact, today's our first opportunity

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to run with the 1911 census,

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which is now just online for the first time,

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which has been really helpful.

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The census is taken every 10 years and lists all households and people in the country.

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It includes details of age, marital status, number of children and type of work.

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The information is released to the public after 100 years.

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But after pressure from people keen to trace their own ancestors,

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the 1911 census became available online three years early, a huge boon to the team.

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The 1911 census gives far more information because they actually ask on the census, for the first time,

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how many children did you have from your marriage.

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So our aim now is to look to find aunts and uncles of her father's family,

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the paternal family, and aunts and uncles of the maternal family, the Pococks.

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Can you also, then...

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You're now doing Roberts, as well.

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The office is snowed under with work this morning,

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and Hilda Watkinson's case gets delegated to another member of the team.

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Fran?

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Watkins.

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Fran is now leading Hilda's case.

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The issues search from the marriage has been done.

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There's their dates. No probates, we don't think, but I'm going to check those in a minute.

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While Dave gets sent to the Probate Registry Office to look for wills.

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They usually contain vital family links,

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and the Principal Probate Registry in London retains copies of all wills in England and Wales

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since 1858. What's more, it's only minutes from Frasers' office.

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Fran has to pick up where Dave left off.

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The team often have to work on several cases at once,

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and need to be able to swap jobs at a moment's notice.

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I haven't got a Henry who was born in '74.

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At the moment, we're still identifying the births

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of the aunts and uncles of the deceased on the maternal side of the family.

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As he finds them, Alan's calling them out and I'm writing them down on the tree.

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The new census has proved a triumph in tracking down Hilda's mother's family but,

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astonishingly, it tells them she is one of 10 children.

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We're just trying to identify birth records,

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find death records and try and get the family together that way.

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Fran is keeping her cool, but she knows that from those 10 children,

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there are bound to be dozens and dozens of descendants

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and she needs to account for every last one of them.

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Everyone is poring over one scribbled tree.

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Jesse, who died up in Congleton, she's left a probate.

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But every time Fran tries to get it copied,

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more and more information gets tacked on the end.

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See if you can find him dead on the machines or alive before you do a marriage.

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The maternal line is exploding with descendants that could lead to an heir.

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Would you be so kind, while I start to make up this damn tree,

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could you give Bernard a ring?

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And in the midst of the mayhem, there's a call from Dave Slee.

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He's struck gold.

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He's just picked up the probate for Edward Pocock,

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paternal uncle of the deceased.

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Excellent news, because it mentions that he had four daughters,

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and there's also mention of a grandson, Cliff Conden.

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Edward Pocock was Hilda's maternal uncle.

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He had a whopping seven children, Doris, Florence, Louisa,

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Laura, Rosie and two more who died as infants.

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Florence had just one child,

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Clifford, Hilda's cousin once removed,

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and the team's first heir.

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With Clifford lined up

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for an appointment,

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Bob Barrett is sent to sign him up.

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-When's he born?

-September 1933.

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But by the looks of the tree, Clifford is just the tip of the iceberg.

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-This Bernard is alive and well and on the phone.

-I need to get somebody down to Southampton.

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If they're going to stay one step ahead of the competition and scoop up all these heirs,

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they'll have to have more people on the job.

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With several beneficiaries in Southampton, they need another traveller on the road quickly.

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Right, I am...

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somewhere between Portsmouth and the M25.

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Can you go to Southampton, please?

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-Yes, I can, of course I can.

-Have you got your overnight bag?

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-'It's not going to be an overnight, is it?'

-Well...

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hopefully not, but there's a whole branch down in the Southampton area,

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so kind of get yourself to Southampton and give me a ring.

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All right, then.

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Cheers, then. Bye, bye.

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There are now two travellers on this case and around 10 office staff.

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The 11 page family tree is spilling off the desk

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and the number of heirs has reached 15.

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I can see us running out of men on the ground very quickly. I can see us having to bring someone else in.

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The question is, have they got the manpower to get all the heirs,

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or will Hilda's huge family get the better of them?

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Heir hunters don't just come in the form of large city firms.

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All over the country are freelance probate researchers,

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helping people trace lost inheritances

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and missing family members.

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Cat Whiteaway has been a probate researcher since 1997

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and has solved over 100 cases.

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She started slowly, taking work on behalf of solicitors

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and fitting the research in around her full time job as an academic.

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But Cat's passion for family history and genealogy

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has gradually taken over,

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and she now solves about 30 cases a year

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through the small heir hunting company she runs with her sister in Australia.

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We work on cases together, so when we get stuck we can bounce ideas off each other,

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mostly through the email system, but, I mean, we do talk regularly,

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especially about cases and more to do with cases than to do with our own personal lives, actually.

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Cat claims she can find almost anything,

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and will track down missing assets,

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reunite family members and locate heirs to unclaimed estates.

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It's always quite nice to just keep going,

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keep attacking a case until you find somebody, and most times I do.

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One of her recent cases was that of Bertha Clark,

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a widow who died in an alms house in Colchester

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leaving an estate of over £21,000, but no next of kin.

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Bertha's case was advertised in 2001.

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Well, I start with the death certificate, really,

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and work backwards from there searching for blood relatives.

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It may not look like it at first,

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but the death certificate holds an incredible amount of detail about Bertha's life.

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It tells me that she was born in 1914 in London.

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It also tells me that she was married,

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so it says that she was the widow of a Mr Clark,

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who was a soldier, a retired soldier,

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who happened to live in Military Road, actually.

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And from the death certificate I can order the birth certificate,

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and on this it says her mother was Louisa Elizabeth Crossland and she was a domestic servant.

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And the places where father's name would have been are left blank, so definitely illegitimate.

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An illegitimate birth means there's no way of tracing or proving paternal relatives.

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To be honest, I mean, my heart usually sinks when I see an illegitimacy

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because that means I've got 50% less chance of actually finding relatives

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because I lose the whole paternal bloodline to follow

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and I've only got the maternal line.

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Although it's difficult with one less parent,

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it's actually quite intriguing to me to work out, you know,

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or to try and find out, why they...

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Or how they were brought up and who brought them up and what their circumstances were.

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And with Bertha it's no different at all.

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Cat wanted to find out more about Bertha's background.

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Through the informant on her death certificate,

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she tracked down Hyacinth Headland Smith,

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a voluntary advocate who took care of Bertha

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and her affairs in the years before she died.

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I remember Bertha with fondness because she had a funny side,

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a gentle side, a loving side

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and also a little bit, you know, against authority.

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Bertha was somebody that I will always keep in my memory

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because she was such a nice person.

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She liked people, and people...

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If there was anything that happened, she would always think,

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you know, she should be there to help.

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And that's one thing about what Bertha was like.

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She was very caring.

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Bertha and Hyacinth became firm friends,

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but Bertha was also a popular local character.

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I think a lot of people liked her in Colchester, because you couldn't not know Bertha.

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I think Marks & Spencer and other shops would accommodate her.

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You know, she used to go and chat to the ladies

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and then some of them would probably give her a chair to sit on

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because she'll have the entire afternoon she probably spent in Marks & Spencer.

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As Bertha's advocate, Hyacinth tried to persuade Bertha to make a will.

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She didn't speak much of her family.

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Like I'd say to her, you need to make a will, "No, no, my dear, I'll do it later.

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"And, I've got money to give to the day centre," because the ladies who worked there,

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they looked after her well and she said, "Oh, I'll leave all my money to them,"

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you know, and things like that.

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But I used to say to her, but you can't do that, they won't accept...

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You've got to make a will. She'd say, "Oh, yes, yes."

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And it would be another day go by, another month or whatever.

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Hyacinth went out of her way to organise a memorial service for Bertha when she died,

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and the number of people who attended is a testament to how popular she was.

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I thought it would be a great tribute to her

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for the people who didn't come to the funeral who wanted to mark respect for her,

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that they'll come along.

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And there was quite a lot of people, even though it was a winter's Saturday morning,

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a lot of people turned up and said all what they thought of her.

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And I thought that was a very good tribute to her and her days when they knew her and liked her

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and was very fond of her.

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Hyacinth makes a point of visiting Bertha's grave twice a year,

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at Christmas and on her birthday, to lay some flowers.

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As Bertha's closest companion,

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Hyacinth kept hold of a few of Bertha's photos and treasured letters

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in the hope that one day someone would come forward and claim them.

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Now Cat has the opportunity to see them and find out about Bertha's life.

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I'm really pleased that you can give me some information about Bertha because, I mean,

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I know she was illegitimate, but I don't know who brought her up or anything at all about her.

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She did speak about never really having much to do with her mother.

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Her birth mother?

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Her birth mother. But her mother did work in services,

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so Bertha was brought up in service, and I think her birth mother must have moved on.

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I don't really know about that.

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And then Bertha found love very late in her life, didn't she?

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Yes, she did. I think she got married when she was 39 and I think he was in the Army.

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-But you didn't meet him?

-No, I didn't.

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He died before I met her.

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And what else do you know?

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I mean, like I said, I don't usually get this chance, actually.

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I've got some correspondence that Bertha had,

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from, you know, people all over the world.

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For instance, this from the White House.

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That's incredible!

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I know. It was a card from Gerald Ford and Betty Ford, you can have a look at that.

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Wow! Why on earth...?

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I think she used to write to a lot of people.

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If somebody died, she'd write sending her sympathy to them.

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If somebody got married, she'd write and congratulate them.

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And, as you can see, all through those letters and with the correspondence she had,

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she was a very kind person.

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-Do you keep them as part of your job, is that, you know...

-Well, she was special.

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Because all the other people that I have been partners with, they've either had people who...

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They have relatives, but with Bertha because she didn't have a family,

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I took it on myself to work and do everything for her.

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So, when we found all these things in her house, I kept them, that should one day somebody wanted...

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you know, found that she had relatives they could pass them to them.

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Hyacinth was able to pass on photos and personal treasures

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Cat simply wouldn't have found through any other source.

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But on locating who they should be passed on to,

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what would the heir to Bertha's legacy make of the windfall?

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This was a complete surprise to me.

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We thought it was a scam.

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For every case that is solved, there are still thousands that stubbornly remain a mystery.

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Currently, over 3,000 names drawn from across the country are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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Their assets will be kept up to 30 years in the hope that eventually

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someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds,

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the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

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John Edward Horton died in Holt Park, Leeds, in 2006.

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His estate is still waiting to be claimed,

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and if no relatives can be found, his money will go to the Government,

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but could it be meant for you?

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Etemongha Ayebinimigha died in 2006 in Muswell Hill, London.

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Does this name stir any memories?

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Are you a missing and entitled relative?

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With hundreds of estates laying unclaimed every year,

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your information could help this money reach its rightful heirs.

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In the London office of Fraser & Fraser,

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the team are working on the case of Hilda Watkinson.

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She died in the affluent area of Poole in Dorset,

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but spent the last two years of her life in a home.

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With care fees taken into account,

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the value of her estate is still in question.

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We think there's going to be something there. It's not, however, going to be huge.

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Probably between 50,000 and 100,000, maybe.

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They need to make something back on this case.

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The maternal family tree is 11 pages, the paternal a further three,

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and they are using an enormous amount of manpower tracing and signing up heirs to Hilda's estate.

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Fran is feeling the strain.

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She's been on the case for over five hours without a break,

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and she just doesn't have enough people to cover the workload.

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At the moment I have Dave Hadley in Southampton with four people to see.

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I have Bob Barrett in the Surrey area with potentially two people to see.

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With the amount of people that are involved and the size of the tree,

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people will be like lucky if they get tuppence ha'penny at this rate.

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Bob Barrett now has to convince Clifford, Hilda's first cousin once removed,

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that it's worth signing with the company.

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Even if it is only for tuppence ha'penny.

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Hello, Mr Conden? Bob Barrett from Fraser and Fraser.

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I think you were expecting me? I'm a bit early, is that OK?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-Thanks very much.

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-They've explained at the office what it's all about?

-Yes.

-Excellent.

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-Distant relatives.

-Distant relatives, that's right.

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What we don't know is how much the estate is valued at.

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I do know that the person that died, died in a nursing home.

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Now, the chances are some of the estate has been used to pay for nursing care,

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but I've got no idea what's left.

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The person concerned is a distant relative of my grandparents.

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In fact, it was a cousin...

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..of your mother.

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Only the Treasury know the exact amount of Hilda's estate.

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There are up to 35 maternal heirs alone at this stage,

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all of them first cousins once and twice removed,

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and all of them descended from the 10 children of Hilda's grandparents,

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Richard Pocock and Eliza Bentley.

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Just this Bloom stem here,

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it looks like she had nine children and each one of them appears to have three, four,

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possibly even five. I know one of them has six children.

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We have them up to date, but some of them were born in the '40s, some of them born in the '20s.

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They could have passed away and they could have had five children.

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You can very quickly see how little each person is actually going to receive on this.

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We think the whole estate is probably only £50,000 to £100,000,

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and if they are only entitled to a tiny fraction of that, they may only be receiving £10 to £15.

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This is a tough case for the heir hunters to make money on, but they have to complete it.

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Most of the cases they started this morning have fallen through,

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but they need to sign as many of Hilda's heirs as possible in order to get their piece of the pie.

0:28:230:28:29

Well, poor Dave Hadley is feeling quite sorry for himself,

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because there seem to be quite a number of family members in the Southampton area

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and he's figuring he's going to have to find himself a hotel for the night

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because I've just given him addresses of four people to go and see,

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so he's not getting home tonight.

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Resigned to his fate, Dave Hadley begins trying to meet Hilda's heirs.

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Well, I've just left a letter there for Mr Bloom.

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I've got three more addresses to visit. I've spoken to the neighbour,

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and she believes that

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the gentleman I wanted to see, Mr Bloom, is on holiday.

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Apparently he works abroad and goes away quite frequently,

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and she believes he's away at the moment.

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Dave leaves without a signed heir, and heads to the next address.

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But Southampton is not the only place Fran needs a traveller.

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The more heirs they find,

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the further afield they spread.

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And just when Bob Smith thought he was clocking off for the day...

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I'm just about to ruin Bob Smith's day. He thought it was over,

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and now I'm going to send him to Colchester, so he's going to love me!

0:29:450:29:50

Hello, Bob. How are you?

0:29:510:29:54

Well, it depends what you're going to say to me!

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The first thing is where are you?

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I'm in East London.

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Ah! Sort of handy for going to Colchester kind of East London?

0:30:000:30:05

-OK, all right.

-'Speak to you in a bit.'

0:30:050:30:08

All right, speak to you later.

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Bob gets sent to Essex with limited information.

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He's got to actually go door-knocking to get in with people

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because we haven't got phone numbers.

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At 5pm it's late in the day to be chancing it without appointments

0:30:220:30:26

but, ever aware of their competitors, they keep working.

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Fran's still putting the tree on to the system.

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Three travellers are still on the road and they now have a running total of 45 heirs.

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A family tree this size, we could easily find 50 beneficiaries.

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To get all this stuff together is going to take several weeks, possibly even a month.

0:30:460:30:50

But the admin side of things is the last thing on Bob's mind as he arrives in Essex.

0:30:520:30:57

He needs to find an heir first.

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But things don't look too promising.

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I don't believe it!

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I've driven all the way over to Colchester this evening

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to go and see a lady by the name of Mrs Goddard

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who we believe is the first cousin once removed to our deceased.

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Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be her,

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at the address I'm given, it doesn't appear to be her usual residence.

0:31:280:31:32

It's like a holiday home and she's there once a week.

0:31:320:31:35

Bob Smith's had a wasted trip to Essex.

0:31:350:31:38

Bob Barrett has been from London to Poole and back to London again.

0:31:380:31:43

Dave Hadley is still in Southampton and Fran is still in the office.

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It's been a tough day all round.

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We have done so much research today.

0:31:510:31:54

We have an 11 page tree on the maternal side,

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three pages on the other side.

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We've had appointments to see beneficiaries this afternoon.

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We have more people to see this evening, appointments tomorrow.

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It's been a good day.

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They found a staggering 45 heirs in one day.

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The total amount of Hilda Bentley Watkinson's estate remains unknown

0:32:140:32:18

until the Treasury accept the claim by her heirs.

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Though her heirs never knew her, she'll be remembered with fondness

0:32:230:32:27

as a bubbly and vivacious character by her friend and neighbour.

0:32:270:32:31

Yeah, you could always have a good laugh with her.

0:32:330:32:35

She tried not to sort of...

0:32:350:32:37

I think when her husband died she did sort of mellow out a bit,

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but she was always quite funny, nice to talk to and,

0:32:400:32:46

yeah, she didn't want anything from people, really, you know?

0:32:460:32:51

All she wanted I suppose at the end of it was a bit of company.

0:32:510:32:54

Back on the case of Bertha Clark, Cat Whiteaway has been researching

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her family history, trying to piece her life story together with more than just certificates.

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Cat went to meet Bertha's closest companion, Hyacinth, who was able to pass on personal photos of Bertha

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and give a little more detail of her life.

0:33:250:33:28

-And Bertha found love very late in her life, didn't she?

-Yes, she did.

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I think she got married when she was 39 and I think he was in the Army.

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But Bertha's early years are still a mystery.

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Cat's come to London to locate the address on the birth certificate.

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She wants to build a picture of the life Bertha

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was born into so she can pass on a more complete portrait to her heir.

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This is great because I get the chance to find out where they lived,

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which gives me a bit more of a picture about exactly how they were brought up,

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what the area was like, what their parents might have done and all sorts of different details.

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So, instead of just this piece of paper, I get a feel for the person.

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And, if I can, I love to do this.

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The address has led her to London's East End and a building that used to be a workhouse and infirmary.

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204 Hoxton Street, St Leonards, Shoreditch, offices for the relief of the poor.

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If this is where she was born, then I'm just wondering whether it was like a parish relief place, you know?

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Where people who didn't have enough money, or perhaps it's a home for unmarried mothers.

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Louisa was a 39 year old domestic servant when she had Bertha.

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According to East End historian Rachel Kolsky,

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this would have been a pretty desperate situation for her.

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Bertha was born at 204 Hoxton Street.

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That was not an address to aspire to. It was a very,

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very sort of dirty and noisy place to live.

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The existence would have been very hard.

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A workhouse was a workhouse.

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If you were given a roof over your head in a workhouse, you had to work

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and so even as a new mother you would have had work to do

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and it was hard work, it was tedious work, it was dirty work.

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People did anything to avoid the workhouse.

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You're unmarried, you've been a servant, you're pregnant, you've been turned out.

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Louisa didn't have many options open to her at that time.

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In this grim situation and having gone to the workhouse to have

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her baby, what choice would Louisa have had but to give her baby up?

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There are no records of where Bertha spent her childhood.

0:35:500:35:53

Well, because Bertha was illegitimate, I mean, it's hard to know who actually brought her up,

0:35:530:35:58

but what was really fascinating, later on when I came across

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her mother's marriage certificate in 1938...

0:36:020:36:05

So, I've got Louisa getting married to Thomas Camp at the age of 63

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and one of the witnesses is Bertha herself, so that's fantastic

0:36:110:36:14

to know that at 28 she was close enough to her mum to be her witness.

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So, Bertha, seen here in her 30s, must have been in contact with

0:36:220:36:26

her mother, Louisa, even though Louisa was unable to bring her up.

0:36:260:36:30

Cat's next task was to trace Louisa's parents and siblings.

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Their descendants would be entitled next of kin.

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I mean, even though Bertha didn't have a father,

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so we couldn't track down any paternal beneficiaries, her mother, Louisa, is one of five children

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so there are four other bloodlines that we can actually follow and out of all of them I've only managed

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to track one bloodline, which is Hannah, who was born in 1871,

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and Hannah had a daughter called Florence.

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So, Florence is Bertha's first cousin.

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Florence has a daughter called Joyce

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and Joyce is the only beneficiary that I can find to Bertha's estate.

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Joyce Vercy is Bertha's cousin once removed and was in the dark about her long lost relation.

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I didn't know Bertha.

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Never heard of her or never heard of her spoken of at all.

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My mother didn't know her at all.

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Never spoke of her.

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Understandably, Cat's letter stating she was the only heir

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left Joyce and her daughter, Corinda, very dubious.

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We thought it was a scam

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because we'd had one before, two years before, and then we heard from

0:37:440:37:50

Cat and so I said, 'oh, it's just one of those letters

0:37:500:37:55

'that you get from time to time, we'll ignore it.'

0:37:550:37:59

And Corinda said, 'no, I think this may be real.

0:37:590:38:02

'We may get something here.'

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So, I said, 'well, whatever we get you can have half,' thinking that would be nothing. Half of nothing.

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Cat's on her way to meet Joyce, the heir to Bertha's £21,000 estate.

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What Hyacinth was able to tell me, you know, means so much and I get a whole image of Bertha.

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And Joyce is going to love it too because Joyce is...

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She's rare because she's actually interested in Bertha.

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I mean, some of my clients, not that interested in the person who died.

0:38:350:38:38

-Hi, Corinda?

-Yes, it is.

-Cat. Cat Whiteaway.

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-Lovely to meet you.

-Nice to meet you at last. Thank you.

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It's a poignant moment.

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Joyce is amazed to find out about her long lost cousin.

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Because you didn't know about Bertha at first, did you?

0:38:550:38:59

No. I didn't know

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anything about her. I didn't know that she existed.

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I'm sorry that I didn't know.

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I'm sorry that my mother didn't know anything about her.

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My mother never mentioned her.

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Joyce's mother, Florence, pictured here, was 14 when Bertha was born,

0:39:140:39:19

but she probably never knew her baby cousin existed.

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Well, I can only imagine that she was spirited away somewhere because she was illegitimate, perhaps.

0:39:230:39:29

I don't know that for certain.

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But my mother never talked of her.

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Ever.

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So, obviously

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her mother couldn't have spoken about her, could she?

0:39:410:39:45

Her mother couldn't have told my mother.

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But, I mean, it's been an incredible journey, all these different things that we've learned

0:39:490:39:53

and Hyacinth, the lady who looked after Bertha later in life and sort of became her friend, you know?

0:39:530:40:00

She wasn't actually paid to look after Bertha,

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but she became her friend and I've met Hyacinth and she's got some photographs of Bertha, as well.

0:40:020:40:10

-Would you like to see them?

-I wonder if she looks like my mother.

0:40:100:40:14

Let's get the photo, first. This is Bertha.

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Can you see Nan in her?

0:40:210:40:23

Yeah.

0:40:230:40:25

Can you see a likeness?

0:40:270:40:28

Yes, definitely.

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There's another one, as well, so...

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So whether they were slightly younger.

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I'm told I look like my mother.

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And if she looked like her mother, then she might look like Bertha.

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Your mum and Bertha were first cousins, so, you know, there should be some similarity.

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Do you think she'd mind me having her money?

0:40:550:40:59

-No.

-Her mother didn't like me.

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She used to tell me I was ugly.

0:41:010:41:03

'You're ugly!'

0:41:030:41:06

-Louisa?

-Yeah. She lived next door to my grandmother.

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When my grandmother was looking after me, she used to look over the garden fence, 'you're ugly!'

0:41:090:41:15

'You're not worth a bladder of lard!'

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I think there's a degree of irony there that you got the money

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after her mother said those nasty things to you.

0:41:230:41:25

Yes, I feel very guilty about it.

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Well, you're legally entitled and I wouldn't feel any guilt.

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And what are you going to spend the money on?

0:41:320:41:34

I'm not spending it on myself.

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Who are you spending it on?

0:41:360:41:37

I'm saving it for my grandson.

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He's hoping to go to university next year, so I'll put it aside

0:41:400:41:44

for him so that he doesn't have to have a debt.

0:41:440:41:48

Joyce has come to terms with inheriting Bertha's estate because she's giving it up

0:41:480:41:54

for her grandson's education, but coming to terms with never having known her cousin is so much harder.

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-Very popular.

-Yes.

0:42:000:42:02

Well known in Colchester, I think.

0:42:020:42:04

Yes. It's made me more sad than ever that we didn't know her.

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If possible, we'd like to meet Hyacinth so that we can take her

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some flowers and thank her properly for looking after Bertha as she did.

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Bertha is no longer the illegitimate relation spirited away in secrecy.

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She is a much missed relative and friend and will be remembered by everyone involved in her story.

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If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk.

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