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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down families of people who've died without leaving a will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives, who had no idea

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they were in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme...

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Heir Hunters investigate a shockingly sad news story.

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Oh, my God.

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Is that rubbish at the window?!

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And one family's sterling efforts to track down a great-aunt,

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who disappeared from their radar 50 years ago.

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She left with little notice. She put her house on the market.

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She sold it fairly quickly and left.

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Plus the unclaimed estates sitting dormant at the Treasury.

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Are you about to inherit a fortune?

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Every year in Britain, over two thirds of people die without leaving a will.

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And when no heir can be found, their money goes to the Government.

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Last year, the Treasury made a colossal £18 million from unclaimed assets.

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Of that, only £6.5 million was ever claimed back by heirs.

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Hoping to gain a commission, more than 30 probate research companies

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race against one another to track down and sign up long-lost relatives entitled to inherit.

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-Mr Galloway?

-Yes.

-David Hadley.

-Hello.

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Fraser and Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters.

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It's run by Andrew, Neil and Charles Fraser.

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One of the areas I enjoy is the mystery element of it.

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And it's being able to deal with that and bring it to a successful conclusion,

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that's one of the thrills of the job, really.

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They've tackled estates ranging from £5 to £500,000,

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and have successfully claimed back more than £100 million for heirs.

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It's 11 o'clock on Thursday morning.

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As always, the team spent the early hours scouring the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates,

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looking for cases that were worth working.

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Unusually, there's been little of interest today, so Neil is taking a different tack.

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There's just some newspaper articles at the moment about Gordon Stewart,

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dying trapped in a litter maze in his own house.

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Every now and then, it's worth having a little look.

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Even if we happen to solve the case and don't get anything out of it,

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it will be good that way.

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According to the newspaper article,

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Gordon Stewart, a 74-year-old bachelor

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from Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire,

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was tragically found dead in his home,

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thought to have died of dehydration.

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His home was filled floor to ceiling with rubbish.

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It seems he was too embarrassed to ask anyone for help or let anyone in.

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He was a very quiet person, and, sadly, no photo of Gordon has been found.

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Despite being private, he wasn't a hermit.

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More than 40 people attended his funeral, led by Pastor Alan Harvey.

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There were a number of neighbours there, who obviously knew Gordon,

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had seen him in the district, riding his bicycle, had spoken to him.

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The tribute that was given certainly painted the picture of a man who,

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in the last years of his life was, in some ways, quite lonely,

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someone who obviously was an animal lover, someone who had been very good with his hands.

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I believe he'd worked in carpentry and so on, earlier on in his life,

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I think someone who was, in some ways,

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overwhelmed by his home situation.

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His tragic end may have been shaped by events in Gordon's past.

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Sadly, his brother and then his father died when he was only a child.

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It left just Gordon and his mum on their own.

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He seemed to have been very attached and proud of her.

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They lived together until her death in 1975.

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Gordon knew that his home had reached an appalling condition.

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But it seems he was too paralysed by the thought of what to do.

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For Fraser's, sadly, it's not an uncommon story, but they know

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from long experience that there is usually an heir out there somewhere.

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Why we're interested in it is because the article says he didn't have any known relatives.

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That's exactly what we do.

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It's just this one happens to have made the newspaper.

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Although Gordon's tragic death has made the headlines,

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it's too recent a case to have been passed to the Treasury's unclaimed estates division,

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so all the Treasury's usual checks regarding family or beneficiaries haven't been done yet.

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One of the things we have to be very, very careful with, when we get cases from almost alternative sources,

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is we're picking this up before any inquiry has been made at all.

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So we don't know if the deceased has left a will.

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There is a danger we could do all this work and then a will turn up.

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Going on instinct, and the lure of a £150,000 property, Neil is prepared to take the risk.

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He's planning to send case manager Bob Smith to Gordon's home town, Aylesbury.

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Fraser's employ a team of travelling heir hunters,

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based all over the country, who await the call to be sent wherever the search takes them.

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They follow up leads and hunches and glean as much information as they can about the deceased

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by knocking on doors, hoping to track down an heir before the competition beat them to it.

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Case manager Bob Smith is London-based,

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making it easy to drop into the office and get details on today's unusual case.

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We're going to this place as well.

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Oh, my God!

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Is that rubbish at the window?!

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Oh, my God!

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-Died of thirst?

-Yeah.

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Bob's getting the dates and details on Gordon Stewart and any family the team already know about

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in order to get birth and death certificates, which will give them more information.

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He appears to have a brother, Trevor F,...

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..born December quarter, 1930,

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-in Aylesbury.

-You want me to do an inquiry and pick up the death?

-Yeah.

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OK.

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Love you all!

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And I'll speak to you later.

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But knowing the papers have already been pressing the neighbours for stories,

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he won't be doing any door-to-door inquiries today.

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Unfortunately, most cases the team work have an emotive story behind them.

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Quite often, they're loners, people that detached themselves from family for various reasons.

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Difficult to believe, to be honest, in a house, looked quite a modern house, it should have water

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and all that, and apparently they die of dehydration.

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Because Gordon Stewart died only a fortnight ago, the team won't be able to get a death certificate yet.

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However, the newspaper article gave his age, so they've had no trouble

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finding his date of birth and have been able to bypass some of their initial searches into his family.

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We know that the brother died aged six.

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The birth of the deceased himself, we are confident we've got the right family.

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For Louisa Cox, Gordon's mother, losing Trevor and then her husband

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must have been almost too much to bear.

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However, the research shows that later in life, when she was 45, she did remarry.

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The team now have all the immediate family members mapped out from their own records,

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but they need certificates from Bob

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in order to find the mother and father's parents to go further back up the tree.

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Is there any chance we could pick those up today?

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-Yes, you have to pay the £10 express fee. £10 on top.

-No problem.

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Piece by piece, the certificates are helping to reveal more about the mystery of Gordon's family.

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His mother's birth certificate gives the team the names of Gordon Stewart's maternal grandparents.

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Louisa Jane Cox, born 8th June, 1906.

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-Formally Gilder - G-I-L-D-E-R.

-Yeah.

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The marriage of the parents -

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between Francis Eric Stewart

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and Louisa Jane Cox, age 23.

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OK, I'll speak to you soon, mate.

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-All right. Cheers.

-Take care. Bye.

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The certificates show a name switch for Gordon's father.

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On Gordon's birth certificate, he's Eric Francis Henry.

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But his marriage certificate shows him as Francis Eric.

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It may cause them problems when they look for a copy of his birth,

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since they'll have to do twice as many searches.

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However, the certificates have given them a leap forward

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on the maternal branch of Gordon's family tree.

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Once Bob gave me the details for Louisa's parents, I then identified their marriage, which was in 1891.

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Then we have a 1901 census.

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On that census, there are aunts and uncles of the deceased.

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Fingers crossed we find the descendants of these aunts and uncles.

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Gordon's maternal grandparents were Albert Cox and Louisa Gilder.

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The team have found seven children from their marriage, Gordon's mother, Louisa,

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then John, Albert, Winifred, Lionel, James and Herbert Cox.

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All Gordon's uncles and aunts.

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They also know that Herbert went on to marry Emily Izzard.

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They, or more likely their children, will be in line to inherit a share of Gordon's £150,000 estate.

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With the help of the census, the mother's line has been exceptionally easy to trace.

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Basically, the key, where we jumped from having the top generation,

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the aunts and uncles to a single generation,

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is solely because we found one marriage. The married name, Izzard, is easy to spot in the indexes.

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The benefit of uncle Herbert Cox and Emily Izzard's marriage means within minutes of a birth search,

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they found children, first cousins to Gordon and probably heirs to his estate.

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We've got five possible cousins of the deceased at the moment, which is a fair amount to have.

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They're born in the '20s, between 1920 and 1934.

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And I've just been passed the first one alive, living in Kent.

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They've only been working this case for four hours

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and already, Fran is able to make plans for travelling heir hunter Dave Hadley to see a maternal heir.

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Have you got a pen and paper to take some details?

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Right.

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But as they get closer to living relatives, team member Sara discovers another family tragedy,

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concerning one of Gordon's other uncles, Albert Cox.

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An old newspaper article reports him murdered in 1970.

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This gives us more information on him.

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The more information we can get on people like that, certainly, the more useful it is.

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With so much family tragedy,

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perhaps this was another reason why the local people were convinced Gordon had no relatives.

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But Dave Hadley's about to prove them wrong.

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He's trying to meet Gordon's first cousin, Douglas Cox.

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-Hello, Mrs Cox?

-Yes.

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I'd like to speak to Mr Douglas Cox, if I may?

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-Yes, of course. Come in.

-Thank you.

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Somebody has passed away on your father's side of the family.

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He didn't leave a will, and so at this stage, we're still searching for the heirs.

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And from then on, I'll explain to you exactly what we can do.

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We lost contact with my family years ago. Haven't we?

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You didn't know much about your father's family in the first place.

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They all lived Luton, Aylesbury area, so we haven't heard from them for years.

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Dave's meeting serves only to further highlight how tragically easy it is for family to lose touch.

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But at least Gordon's estate looks more likely now to go to his real family than the Treasury.

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Well, thanks again. I'm really grateful, and it's been a pleasure meeting you. Bye-bye.

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Bye.

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We've done really well today, considering.

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We've found one aunt and uncle, who have left surviving issue,

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who are first cousins of our deceased, Gordon Stewart.

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The team is successfully signing up maternal cousins as heirs,

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hoping to get a commission from the £150,000 estate.

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So far, it's been an easy piece of detective work.

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Even with a name like Stewart, there can be unforeseen problems.

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It's come up as Stuart with a "U".

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Oh, gosh! Oh, great(!)

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Has their stream of luck run out?

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Heir hunting doesn't just take the form of fast-paced searches and heavy competition.

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Far removed from the rat race, in the Sussex town of Burgess Hill,

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are an heir-hunting duo of a different kind.

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Charles Kerr, the Lord Teviot, is a hereditary peer and works alongside his wife, Mary,

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under their individual company names of Census Searches and Elliot & Whitmee.

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-You've found the thing.

-I found it.

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Mary and Charles prefer to work the less competitive cases, thought too small to take on by other companies,

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and have a particular interest in family stories.

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I think one of the nice parts is that you are able to put people

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in touch with relations that they had no idea that existed

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or they knew that existed but had no idea of what had happened to them in the intervening period.

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Mary's work isn't just limited to the UK.

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She's researched a number of estates on behalf of the Office of Public Trustee in Canada.

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When someone dies in testate, they find it useful having a contact like Mary in the UK.

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Very often from the Public Trustee, one gets cases with a UK background.

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It's always interesting because

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so many people went from different parts of the world to Alberta

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that it wasn't always just run-of-the-mill UK research.

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One of the cases Mary was asked to work on was that of Joan Mansfield,

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a British national born in India, who died in Calgary in 1996.

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She never married or had children, and she didn't make a will.

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So who was entitled to her £30,000 estate?

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The only information that one had right at the very beginning was that she had a brother.

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And I think the brother was in New Zealand and he'd already died.

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So it was really very much a question of starting from scratch.

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Mary had limited information, but knew that Joan and her family

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had spent most of their lives in colonial India.

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She plotted the family connection she had so far on paper.

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The first thing I did was a rough draft of the Mansfield tree.

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And I put down Joan's birth date.

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And I put down that she had a brother, that one knew about, who was called Ivan William,

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and from there, the next thing one had to do was to see if she had any other siblings.

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There was already a ten-year age gap between Joan and her brother, Ivan, and in order to gauge how many

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further siblings there might be, Mary was looking for her parents' marriage date.

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As she was with born in India,

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the next port of call was to go to the British Library,

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and to actually see the birth

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or baptism and burial and marriage register, et cetera.

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It's good news to look for events that took place actually in India

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because they were very meticulous about their record-keeping.

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One was able to actually find Joan's parents' marriage

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because that rather gave us a window of how many other children

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they might possibly have, because they were married in 1894 and Joan was not born until 1912.

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In the 18-year gap between their marriage and Joan's birth,

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Henry and Jane Mansfield had four other children.

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The Mansfield family had been quite a long time in India,

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and Joan's father was born in Madras, here,

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and her mother was born in Calcutta, here.

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They were far apart. They moved right up to here to be married in Ambala.

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They had their five children in different places, and, in fact,

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going back in one time to actually have one of their sons in Calcutta.

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Then, eventually Joan, she was born in Faridpur.

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Joan was the youngest of five children.

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Two of her brothers, Hubert and Tyrell died in infancy,

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but siblings Ivan and Phyllis both went on to marry and have children.

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It was looking as if there wasn't very much because we have Phyllis, with her two daughters,

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Maisie and Barbara,

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and we have Ivan, with the one son, Leonard.

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Maisie was actually deceased before the deceased.

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Barbara, as she was entitled,

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and then Leonard, he was also entitled because he was still alive.

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So, out of her four brothers and sisters, we only have two surviving kin.

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Mary had her heirs, Joan's nephew Leonard, and her niece Barbara.

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Barbara has since died, but her daughter Anne

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remembers when she and her late mother first heard the news of Aunt Joan's death.

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Mother had direct communication with the people in Canada,

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and several...letters,

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pieces of paper, from the Province of Alberta,

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telling mother that she and her cousin Billy

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were heirs and what Joan had left,

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and precise lists, and the fact that they would transport it back

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to this country.

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Anne's mother hoped Joan's boxes of belongings would shed some light on why she'd gone to Canada.

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Letters or photographs, anything to explain why she'd upped sticks

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and lost touch with the family in the '50s.

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Initially, she was saddened by the fact that her aunt had died

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and that she knew nothing about her or her life in Canada.

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Um, the boxes revealed a certain amount,

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but of course, there was nothing personal.

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Aunt Joan had left them her legacy and a few belongings.

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But would they ever find out about

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the new life she created for herself in Canada?

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It was Foothills School of Nursing.

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If it's the School of Nursing, perhaps she was in a teaching position.

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Just why had Joan suddenly disappeared?

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For every case that is solved,

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there are still many that remain a mystery.

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Currently over 3,000 names drawn from across the country

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are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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Their assets will be kept for up to 30 years in the hope that eventually,

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someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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With the estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions of pounds,

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it's just possible you could be entitled to one of these unclaimed estates.

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Stanley Harding died in the seaside town of Poole in Dorset in February 2008.

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Can you help make the right connections?

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Could you even be related to him and entitled to his legacy?

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Vincent James Connolly died in Camden, London, in March, 2006.

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Does his name stir any memories?

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If no relatives can be found, his money will go to the Government, but could it be meant for you?

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It's day two on the case of Gordon Stewart,

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a 74-year-old bachelor from Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire.

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Gordon was tragically found dead in his home, thought to have died of dehydration.

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Too embarrassed to accept offers of help or let people in,

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his neglected home was filled from floor to ceiling with piles of rubbish.

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The shocking nature of his death hit the newspaper headlines,

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but it was the words, "No next of kin"

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that attracted Fraser and Fraser.

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Like the genealogical detectives they are, in just a day,

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they had already begun to unravel Gordon's family's tragic story

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and find heirs to his £150,000 estate.

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We know the brother died aged six.

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The birth of the deceased himself, we're confident we've got the right family.

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But with Gordon having died only two weeks ago,

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Fraser's has no way of knowing whether this extremely private man had actually made a will.

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They're risking a lot of man hours and money tracing cousins who may not even be heirs.

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Every now and then, it's worth having a look. Even if we happen to solve the case

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and don't get anything out of it.

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The team have found three maternal first cousins

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they believe to be entitled to Gordon's property,

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all descendants of Gordon's uncle, Herbert.

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Dave Hadley met one of them last night and is off to meet two more this morning,

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hoping to sign them up.

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I'm on my way to see Sheila and Roy, the brother and sister of Douglas,

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who I saw yesterday.

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They would appear to be first cousins of the deceased,

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and I'm hoping they'll be able to give me a bit more information about the father's side of the family.

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The cousins may have known Gordon when he was younger and could have leads to further family members.

0:24:060:24:13

-Hello. Sheila Kingsland?

-Yes.

0:24:150:24:18

Hello there. Thanks ever so much for seeing me.

0:24:180:24:20

It's a pleasure. Come in.

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What can you tell me about your father's side of the family?

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Did he have any brothers or sisters?

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We don't know. Apparently, Dad left home because he wasn't treated very well.

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-So we didn't even know our grandparents or any side of Dad's family.

-OK.

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I've already spoke to the brother.

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So Dave comes away without any new information.

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No, I can't remember.

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But the team in the office don't need it, they are still uncovering maternal relations

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with no trouble at all.

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William Birch. Birch.

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Ah, William Birch. The informant on the parents' marriage.

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The parents of the deceased.

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I'm looking for various Cox marriages.

0:25:050:25:08

I just found Winifred, E.L., in Aylesbury, which is the right initials and the right area.

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So it's looking rather good.

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Winifred Cox is Gordon's aunt,

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and the team will immediately be looking for children from her marriage.

0:25:200:25:24

The ones I'm trying to find with initials are a lot easier to find,

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rather than just the single names, because there are quite a few Coxes.

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In a matter of minutes, they've found what they were after.

0:25:370:25:41

Ivor A was born 13th September 1930.

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Ivor is Winifred's only child,

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and Fran wants to try and line up a visit from a travelling heir hunter

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to sign him up as another heir.

0:25:530:25:56

Hello, Mr Birch?

0:25:560:25:58

Good afternoon. I'm so sorry to trouble you.

0:25:580:26:01

But Ivor needs some convincing that it's not a hoax call.

0:26:010:26:06

No, no, no. It is a genuine matter.

0:26:060:26:09

We are looking into an estate of somebody who has passed away recently,

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and we're trying to trace next of kin of that person.

0:26:150:26:19

Now, I'm rather hoping that you are Ivor Birch,

0:26:190:26:24

the son of Winifred Emily Birch, nee Cox.

0:26:240:26:28

Fran arranges for someone to go and sign up Ivor.

0:26:290:26:32

Hi, Bob.

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I'm afraid I've made you a six o'clock appointment in Amersham.

0:26:340:26:38

On the paternal side of the tree, they've had a few false starts pinning down Gordon's father

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because he switched his name from Eric Francis

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to Francis Eric Stewart.

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This proves slightly tricky.

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It looks as though he may be an only child.

0:26:550:26:57

Our feeling at the moment is that the grandfather is pretty old, 58 on the 1901 sensor.

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So he'd be a father at the age of 59.

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His wife is quite a bit younger.

0:27:060:27:09

But still, I don't think there'll be any more children if the research we have is correct.

0:27:090:27:15

So, everything is gearing on the mother's side.

0:27:150:27:17

They've made real progress.

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But there's still the nagging thought that Gordon may have left a will, but with no way to check,

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Neil thinks it's worth taking a punt on their findings.

0:27:250:27:28

I'm slightly more confident now that what we're doing is going to be fruitful.

0:27:280:27:33

The family we've spoken to so far do not know of the deceased

0:27:330:27:37

and they are distant enough for them not to know about this case.

0:27:370:27:42

The inquiries through social services and through the coroner

0:27:420:27:45

also indicate that they don't think there'll be a will,

0:27:450:27:48

and they're confident that there aren't any known family.

0:27:480:27:51

We've obviously proved them wrong now.

0:27:510:27:53

Satisfied they're working a valuable case,

0:27:530:27:57

they really need to concentrate on the paternal branch of the family tree

0:27:570:28:02

in order to make sure they've found all entitled relatives to Gordon's estate.

0:28:020:28:07

The information they have found on Gordon's father, Eric Francis Henry Stewart, comes from the 1901 census

0:28:070:28:14

and suggests he was the son of Bessie and Alexander Stewart,

0:28:140:28:18

a photographic artist living in Fulham.

0:28:180:28:20

Senior researcher Bob Barrett is at the register office

0:28:230:28:26

and has collected a birth certificate for him.

0:28:260:28:29

Right, Eric Francis Henry Stewart,

0:28:300:28:33

born 11th November, 1901.

0:28:330:28:36

Father, Alexander Henry Stewart.

0:28:360:28:39

He was an artist.

0:28:390:28:40

-Mother, Charlotte Ann Stewart.

-OK.

0:28:400:28:43

So our census might be wrong then.

0:28:430:28:46

They were looking at the wrong Stewart family,

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which could have enormous consequences in terms of heirs.

0:28:510:28:54

They not being the parents, he possibly now is not an only child,

0:28:540:28:58

and we need to get back to the drawing board and start from scratch.

0:28:580:29:03

So I'm going to get Noel onto it straight away.

0:29:030:29:08

The search for Gordon's next of kin

0:29:080:29:10

has all been relatively easy up until now.

0:29:100:29:13

But if Gordon's father has siblings after all,

0:29:130:29:16

there may be many more cousins on the paternal side of the family

0:29:160:29:20

they must sign up as heirs.

0:29:200:29:21

So they start a fresh search for Gordon's paternal grandparents' marriage.

0:29:210:29:25

It's come up as Stuart with a "U".

0:29:270:29:30

Oh, gosh!

0:29:300:29:31

Noel's just found the marriage of the paternal grandparents of the deceased.

0:29:310:29:37

We know it as S-T-E-W-A-R-T.

0:29:370:29:40

But they seemed to marry as Stuart, S-T-U-A-R-T.

0:29:400:29:46

So, we're now going to have two surnames to contend with.

0:29:460:29:49

Two different variations.

0:29:490:29:51

This means they have to go back over any previous finds and double check

0:29:510:29:56

everything using the new spelling of Stuart. But that's not all.

0:29:560:30:01

So, plain Alexander.

0:30:020:30:04

Oh, gosh!

0:30:040:30:07

Oh, great(!) OK.

0:30:070:30:10

Gordon's grandparents, Alexander and Charlotte,

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have dropped their middle names too, making their search even harder.

0:30:130:30:18

This is not boding well.

0:30:180:30:21

The only concrete information they have has come from Gordon's father's birth certificate.

0:30:220:30:27

They know when and where Eric Francis Stewart was born

0:30:270:30:31

and think they have Gordon grandparents', Alexander and Charlotte's, marriage.

0:30:310:30:35

They check and re-check their birth and death records.

0:30:410:30:45

They go back to the 1901 census.

0:30:450:30:49

Because they're chopping and changing the surname around, it's making it difficult.

0:30:490:30:53

They start ordering certificates for all Alexander Stuarts dying in Fulham around the 1920s.

0:30:530:31:00

Thanks very much. Bye.

0:31:000:31:03

But still they find nothing.

0:31:030:31:05

I think a lot of our hunches were wrong.

0:31:050:31:08

We're still desperately trying to find the 1901 census for Alexander and Charlotte.

0:31:080:31:13

And we just can't find it.

0:31:130:31:15

It's as if they disappeared just in 1901.

0:31:150:31:18

We know where they were in 1898. We know where they were at the end of 1901.

0:31:180:31:22

But the beginning of 1901, we don't know where they were. Um,

0:31:220:31:27

so, until we find that, we're not going to get any further today.

0:31:270:31:30

At the end of day two, they have signed six maternal heirs,

0:31:320:31:36

all cousins to the deceased, Gordon Stewart.

0:31:360:31:39

And with time on their side,

0:31:390:31:40

they decide to leave their search for paternal heirs for now.

0:31:400:31:45

In the weeks that follow, Gordon's paternal family tree becomes no clearer,

0:31:450:31:49

but at his funeral, a little more about him is revealed.

0:31:490:31:53

He's fondly remembered as a gentle man,

0:31:530:31:56

highly appreciative of well-made things and very generous.

0:31:560:32:00

However, along with the tributes,

0:32:000:32:03

Fraser's also discover some startling news.

0:32:030:32:07

Contrary to all their inquiries, Gordon HAD left a will.

0:32:070:32:11

From our point of view, it looks like our journey's come to an end.

0:32:110:32:15

It's one of the risks we take.

0:32:150:32:17

This always was a risky case to have started, and this time, the gamble hasn't paid off for Fraser's.

0:32:170:32:24

Although there is now no money left for any family members to inherit,

0:32:250:32:29

the team at Fraser's did succeed in reviving some long-lost family ties,

0:32:290:32:35

and, in the end, despite his chaotic final years, Gordon, unlike so many people,

0:32:350:32:39

did the right thing - he'd taken the trouble to make a will,

0:32:390:32:43

so the person he really wanted to benefit from his estate will now inherit.

0:32:430:32:49

I think, obviously, the loss of his mother, as for anyone,

0:32:490:32:52

particularly for a man on his own, was a significant event.

0:32:520:32:57

I think then ill health and eventually having to give up work

0:32:570:33:01

probably impacted his life.

0:33:010:33:04

And certainly, the picture that was painted from the tribute was of someone who perhaps

0:33:040:33:09

had recognised that he wasn't coping as well as he might have done

0:33:090:33:14

but didn't know perhaps how quite to rectify that situation.

0:33:140:33:19

Several years ago, Mary, the Lady Teviot, was asked to track down

0:33:320:33:36

relatives of Joan Mansfield,

0:33:360:33:38

a British lady who had died in Canada in 1996.

0:33:380:33:43

Mary located two heirs to Joan's £30,000 estate,

0:33:430:33:48

her nephew and a niece, Barbara.

0:33:480:33:51

She and her daughter, Anne, were delighted to finally receive news of long-lost aunt Joan

0:33:510:33:56

but were left with no clues as to the reason she had suddenly emigrated to Canada.

0:33:560:34:02

For whatever reason, Joan cut herself off completely,

0:34:040:34:08

to the extent, of course, that it was the Canadian government that told my mother that she'd died.

0:34:080:34:13

We didn't know that either.

0:34:130:34:16

Although she'd found her heirs, Mary kept looking into Joan's case on behalf of Anne's late mother.

0:34:160:34:24

She was greatly appreciative that somebody had bothered

0:34:240:34:27

because she wanted to know about her aunt.

0:34:270:34:30

As well as Anne's mother, there was another relative

0:34:320:34:35

particularly interested in hearing that Mary was making inquiries about the Mansfield family.

0:34:350:34:39

Rosemary Webster was not an heir,

0:34:410:34:43

but through her grandfather, she is Joan's cousin once removed.

0:34:430:34:48

Rosemary has inherited a detailed family tree

0:34:520:34:55

and has become an amateur genealogist.

0:34:550:34:58

She too wants to find out what happened to Joan.

0:34:580:35:02

My aunt Gwen was really the one who was very interested and wrote down everything that I have on here.

0:35:020:35:09

She knew all her cousins quite well because she grew up with a lot of them in India.

0:35:090:35:15

So she wrote down everything that she remembered.

0:35:150:35:18

So, really, I haven't had to do a huge amount of looking for things,

0:35:180:35:22

but she spurred me on because there's a lot of questions here that I need to find out and ask.

0:35:220:35:28

Like Joan, her cousin Rosemary had also grown up in India and kept lots of film and photos of life there.

0:35:300:35:37

Through her research, Rosemary discovered that she

0:35:400:35:43

and Joan's ancestors held significant posts in the British Empire.

0:35:430:35:47

Great grandfather, Daniel Timothy Mills, became apothecary to the Viceroy,

0:35:490:35:56

which was a big thing in India.

0:35:560:35:59

They were all doctors in India, in the Army,

0:35:590:36:04

so there must be some genetic link somewhere that has been passed down.

0:36:040:36:09

Harry lived down in Madras, and my grandfather lived right up in the north,

0:36:090:36:13

but they seemed to get together occasionally and meet up.

0:36:130:36:19

And especially when they came back to England, they were all very close.

0:36:190:36:23

Maybe it's because they didn't have English friends,

0:36:230:36:26

because they'd all been abroad and they probably didn't know a lot of people.

0:36:260:36:30

The fact that my grandfather came to live two streets away

0:36:300:36:33

from Harry and Jane means that family must have meant quite a lot to them.

0:36:330:36:39

Joan left India, aged 25, and lived in England with her parents,

0:36:390:36:44

Harry and Jane, until her mother died in 1950.

0:36:440:36:47

Joan must have been in her 30s, early 30s, when I first met her.

0:36:470:36:52

She was ten years younger than her other sibling, so it must have been quite difficult for her

0:36:520:36:58

because she was kind of left to look after her parents because everybody else had flown the nest.

0:36:580:37:04

But I don't think she was unhappy doing that.

0:37:040:37:06

She was obviously contented to be at home.

0:37:060:37:09

But when her mother died, Joan made an apparently snap decision to go to Canada,

0:37:090:37:14

taking her elderly father, Harry, with her.

0:37:140:37:17

Perhaps another colonial adventure beckoned.

0:37:170:37:20

I think by the time this all happened, the family was very scattered.

0:37:200:37:26

They'd all gone to all four corners of the Earth.

0:37:260:37:29

She, basically, probably didn't have any family, which is why she went to Canada.

0:37:290:37:34

Joan's great-niece, Anne, was only young, but remembers what an impact it had.

0:37:360:37:40

She left with little notice.

0:37:400:37:42

She put the house on the market.

0:37:420:37:44

She sold it fairly quickly and left.

0:37:440:37:47

Much later on, I remember my grandmother, her sister, saying how awful it was that

0:37:470:37:53

she'd never heard a word from her sister since she went to Canada.

0:37:530:37:57

She didn't even know when her father died because Joan completely cut off all communication with everybody.

0:37:570:38:04

But today, Mary is on her way to meet Rosemary and Anne.

0:38:070:38:11

And she has exciting new information. She's been in contact with a genealogist in Canada

0:38:110:38:16

who's managed to find out all about Joan's life across the pond.

0:38:160:38:20

Interestingly enough,

0:38:200:38:21

the genealogist in Calgary found she'd become a commercial producer

0:38:210:38:26

and a sales service writer for a year with the first television station in Calgary.

0:38:260:38:34

And after that, she went to work at the Foothills hospital as a registrar,

0:38:340:38:39

where she remained until she retired.

0:38:390:38:42

It's funny that she gravitated towards medicine again.

0:38:420:38:45

It was Foothills School of Nursing.

0:38:450:38:47

If it's the School of Nursing, perhaps she was in a teaching position.

0:38:470:38:51

I'm surprised to find that her father actually went to Canada.

0:38:510:38:56

He was definitely there in 1957.

0:38:560:38:58

Why would an 80-something gentleman live in a different country, where he didn't know anybody

0:38:580:39:04

and his daughter was miles away?

0:39:040:39:06

Well, his daughter, that was the most important thing.

0:39:060:39:09

After all, I think you have to remember he'd lost his wife,

0:39:090:39:13

he'd been in India all his life, and he was in post-war Britain,

0:39:130:39:17

which wasn't very jolly, to say the least.

0:39:170:39:20

So, probably, he decided he would have a better life in Canada

0:39:200:39:24

than staying in England, with a busy lady with grandchildren and a husband to look after.

0:39:240:39:31

Thank you very much for finding this. It's wonderful.

0:39:310:39:34

But that's not all.

0:39:340:39:36

Via a webcam, the Canadian genealogist has been able to put them directly in touch

0:39:360:39:41

with a close friend and neighbour of Joan's in Canada, Lauren Rendell,

0:39:410:39:45

finally someone who can answer all their questions and solve so much of the mystery of Joan's life.

0:39:450:39:52

How did you know Joan?

0:39:520:39:54

Well, I knew Joan in the last part of her life.

0:39:540:39:56

I met her when she was about 71, and we were neighbours.

0:39:560:40:00

I always credit Joan with getting me through a nursing degree.

0:40:000:40:03

She used to make sure my papers were in good order.

0:40:030:40:07

My oldest son is 36 now and I was asking him what he remembered most about Joan.

0:40:070:40:13

He said he remembered all the tales she had about the war,

0:40:130:40:17

and she was in the Civil Defence Corps, I believe,

0:40:170:40:22

and put out fires in London when they had the Blitz,

0:40:220:40:27

and so she would tell him tales about the war years and her experience in London.

0:40:270:40:32

We often wondered whether she talked about her family at all.

0:40:320:40:36

Did she talk about her brothers or her sister?

0:40:360:40:40

She sort of said that she didn't have any contact with them.

0:40:400:40:44

Unfortunately, she had dementia for a few years before she died.

0:40:440:40:48

By the time I realised that she didn't have a will, it was too late to, sort of,

0:40:480:40:53

ask her about family, like, she wouldn't recall, and therefore the Public Trustee took over.

0:40:530:41:00

They said that they did find family.

0:41:000:41:03

-They did. They found my mother, Barbara, who was Joan's niece, and Joan's nephew, Billy.

-Right.

0:41:030:41:11

With the money, my mother built the conservatory that we're sitting in here in Dorset.

0:41:110:41:16

So Joan is still remembered.

0:41:160:41:19

Still remembered in both families.

0:41:190:41:21

-Yes, yes.

-Well, she would have been very pleased with that.

0:41:210:41:25

-Thank you so much again, Lauren, it's been lovely talking to you.

-Thank you very much.

0:41:250:41:29

We'll be in touch with you.

0:41:290:41:31

Thank you, and you have a lovely day. Bye-bye.

0:41:310:41:34

-Bye.

-Bye-bye.

0:41:340:41:37

For Anne and Rosemary, this connection has been so important.

0:41:370:41:41

To have spoken to someone who knew Joan so well has finally brought her a little closer.

0:41:410:41:46

I feel she's come back into the fold of the family

0:41:460:41:49

because we know more about her.

0:41:490:41:51

She's not just Joan, you know, a distant relative.

0:41:510:41:56

It's almost as if we know her.

0:41:560:41:58

It's been really good.

0:41:580:42:00

-She's once again part of us, isn't she?

-Yes.

0:42:000:42:04

That's a good way to put it, yes.

0:42:040:42:07

She's come back to us, having left.

0:42:090:42:11

Yes.

0:42:110:42:12

-The best crystal jug, of course!

-Of course!

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MARY: 'It was exciting for me to meet them both,'

0:42:180:42:23

and it's always nice to feel you've done a little bit of good somehow!

0:42:230:42:27

If it's in the course of work, it doesn't really matter.

0:42:270:42:30

It's just a very pleasant, happy outcome.

0:42:300:42:32

I'll put the kettle on, you load the dishwasher.

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Mary's efforts have given Anne and Rosemary some clues as to why Joan left post-war Britain

0:42:360:42:43

and brought a missing family member back into the fold.

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If you would like advice about building a family tree or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk.

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