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Heir hunters spend their lives tracking down the families of people who died with no will.

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They hand over thousands of pounds to long-lost relatives

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who had no idea they were in line for a windfall.

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Could they be knocking at your door?

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On today's programme, the team throw everything

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at a case, but have they met their match on this mystery man's estate?

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There's something peculiar on this case. Not sure what.

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There's too many holes, too many unanswered questions at the moment.

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And another estate reveals more to the heir about her mum than she bargained for.

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Oh, that's just thrown me a bit.

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Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed cash held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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Every year in Britain, thousands of people die

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without leaving a will.

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If no obvious family can be found, the money goes straight to the government,

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who last year made over 18 million pounds in unclaimed estates.

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That's where the heir hunting companies come in.

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Fraser and Fraser is one of the largest probate firms in the world.

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For over 90 years, a member of the Fraser family

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has been helping trace the rightful beneficiaries to thousands of estates.

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Our job is incredibly exciting.

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We're tracing family trees, delving back into people's history,

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delving back in time, and looking at the hidden mysteries in people's families.

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Some cases take years of painstaking research before

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trying to contact heirs.

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This is one such case.

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It started at 7am on Thursday 22nd January 2009

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with the team at Fraser and Fraser's office looking into the Treasury's lists of unclaimed estates.

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We're going to start off looking at John Edward Cecil Smith, otherwise Kiff.

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Everything we found on the property is under the surname of Kiff.

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So, it leads me to think we're going to start off with a birth under the name of Smith...

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erm, which is going to be a bit tricky, really.

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It's a very hard name to research.

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When someone has changed their name in their life,

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the important information for the researchers

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is the name that person was born under,

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as that should be the name their relatives share.

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Unfortunately for them,

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Neil believes that John was born under the common name Smith.

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But with a property attached, the case is still worth researching.

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I think he owns his own house,

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which means value-wise, we're looking in the region of £100,000, £150,000, possibly £200,000.

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It's a reasonable house in a reasonable area.

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So, it's got some value.

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The deceased, John, died in Littlehampton

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on the south coast of England in September 2008.

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It's a popular area for people to retire to,

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and John moved here in the later years

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of his life with his wife June.

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His neighbour Pam remembers him well.

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He looked very fit and well, he was a stocky little chap.

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Very well-built and as tough as anything.

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I think he thought he was a bit of a Jack the lad.

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He liked to play it up a bit.

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Before moving to Sussex, John lived in London,

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and had met his wife June in the nightclubs of the East End.

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He'd been a bit of a lad when he was younger.

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Proper little rough diamond, I would say, John.

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He's the sort that makes the world go round, isn't he?

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John and June never had any children together

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and Pam never found out about any other family either.

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"Cor, I don't bother with them," he said, "I don't bother with my family.

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"We don't have anything to do with one another"-type of thing.

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"We never sent each other cards and that."

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I had a feeling he didn't keep in touch with any of them.

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Quite a lone...star, in my opinion.

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In the heir hunters' office, the investigation is being run by case manager Marcus Herbert.

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But probate research often involves working out on the road.

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Marcus's first move is to send traveller Bob Smith

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down to Worthing Register Office to pick up John's death certificate.

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John Edward Cecil Smith.

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He was born on 6th June 1927.

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Whilst Bob makes his way to Worthing,

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there is no time for Marcus to waste.

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He needs to open up other lines of enquiry straightaway,

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as there are always rival firms of heir hunters trying

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to get to the heirs before them.

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I'm going to ring somebody's neighbours now

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and see if they can shed any light on it. He had been married as well, see if they know where he came from.

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John Smith is one of the most common names in Britain.

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So, researching it will involve plenty of speculation.

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Neil is leaving nothing to chance, as he's opened up

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another line of enquiry.

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This is led by Gareth Langford

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with his team of office-based researchers.

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It's their job to search the official records for clues to John's family.

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The most important first step is to identify John's birth record.

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If this is wrong, it's a disaster for the case,

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as the entire family tree is built on someone else's life.

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I've got a birth of a John E C Smith and the deceased is John Edward Cecil.

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So, I'm hoping this is going to be our guy.

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He was born in Barrow-on-Soar.

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His mother's maiden name is Lane. Smith is a terrible name.

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Mother's maiden name Lane is not much better.

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Gareth believes that John is originally from the Leicestershire area

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and is the son of a John Thomas Smith and Edith Lane.

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He is an only child, so the team now need

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to establish whether either of his parents had any siblings

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in their quest to find out if John has any living relatives.

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This is the 1901 census.

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We've got Edith Mary Lane.

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Again, born in Barrow, so...I quite like it.

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Her parents are Edward... this is the deceased's grandparents,

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Edward and Harriet, and we've also got a brother and a sister.

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We've got Samuel and a Rose...Annie.

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The good thing about this is that we're away from the surname Smith,

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so we might be able to do something with this.

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It's still only 8am. Most of the office

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is researching this estimated £150,000 case.

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But who will make the first break-through?

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The deceased's mother, Edith, has a brother, Samuel.

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He's born 1892, but he was married in Spalding to a Beatrice.

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Had two children.

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One of which is an Edward Lane. Edward C Lane.

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He was born in 1921.

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Gareth's lead looks promising.

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Moving to the surname Lane has allowed the team

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to work more quickly through the records,

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and find Edward, a possible first cousin of John's.

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Solving a case of John Smith before 9am would be quite a feat.

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But only if it's correct.

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It does look like they are the right people,

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it is up-to-date and we have telephone numbers.

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I'm going to see Marcus and then...

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he will hopefully phone up the potential heir for us.

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So, we're up-to-date incredibly quickly

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considering that Smith... It's remarkable.

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-What?

-You're too slow.

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-How confident are we this is right?

-Completely.

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-Personally, I think we get Ewart straight to that address.

-Yep.

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Possible heir Edward lives in Warwickshire,

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and with rival firms also investigating this valuable estate,

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Marcus wants to get ahead of the competition

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and send travelling heir hunter Ewart Lindsay straight to the area,

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so he's poised to meet Edward as soon as possible.

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PHONE RINGS

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Hello, Marcus, how are you?

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-'Could you head to Leicester?'

-Can you make an appointment for me?

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'I'll try.'

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Great. One case up-to-date. That's good.

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John's case seems to have been solved by the office in record time,

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but back in Worthing Register Office,

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Bob is taking things at a slightly more leisurely pace.

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-John Edward...

-Lovely.

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Bob has finally got the deceased's death certificate

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and it verifies the address in Littlehampton where John died.

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Bob needs to relay the information back to the office.

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But now, with a possible heir already identified,

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Bob's work might now just be a formality.

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Hello, mate, all right?

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We've got somebody up-to-date, if it's right.

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Really?

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Rea... Already?

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Oh, my word.

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Do you want to do an enquiry?

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Number seven.

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Bob cannot believe how quickly the case has progressed.

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But is it too good to be true?

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Marcus must now call possible heir Edward Lane

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to confirm his identity.

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If Edward can verify key family details,

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then he'll inherit part of John's estimated £150,000 estate.

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Hello, Mr Lane, I'm sorry to trouble you.

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My name is Mr Herbert, I'm ringing from a company in London

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called Fraser and Fraser. We're probate researchers.

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Do you know much about your late father's family?

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Whether he had brothers and sisters?

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Right. Do you know what happened to cousin John at all?

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Do you know where John died at all?

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Right, right.

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Thanks very much.

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Bye bye.

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Got the wrong family.

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This is wrong.

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Cos they've confirmed all this. He died in Rearsby in Leicestershire

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about two years ago.

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We've gone a bit skew-whiff somewhere.

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It's a killer blow.

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Gareth's team have been looking into the wrong family

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all along in the records.

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It is an entirely different John E C Smith

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they have researched, one that died in Leicestershire and not Sussex.

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This is something that can happen all too often when looking into

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a common family name like Smith.

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Certainly a major set-back.

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We're back to square one.

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Everything we've done is wrong.

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So, now we're going to make sure we catch up

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and do everything correctly.

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The team must identify the correct birth record of our John

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to move forward with the case.

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Traveller Bob Smith, no relation,

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is still down in Sussex making enquiries at the house,

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which they do know belonged to the deceased.

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So, despite his slow start, could Bob now

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be the best source of information on the case?

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-Hi, good morning.

-Hello. We're making enquiries about a chap that used to live at number four.

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-John Kiff?

-That's right.

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-Did you know him at all?

-Yes, I knew him quite well, yes.

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Can you tell me about his family at all?

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I don't know anything about his family.

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I never met any of his family. He came from London.

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-He used to live in London.

-Did he work up there, did he?

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-Yes, yes, he was something to do with nightclubs.

-OK.

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-Quite a colourful character, then.

-Yeah, yeah.

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-But he didn't mention any family at all?

-No.

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All right. Well, thanks very much. Sorry to have troubled you.

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Bye bye.

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Bob has got lucky and has a lead

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that John lived in London and was known by the Kiff name

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rather than as Smith in Leicestershire.

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He needs to relay this information back to the office straightaway

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to get them back on the right track.

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I had a very good interview.

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'Oh, yeah?'

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He worked in a nightclub, the deceased,

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which is where he met his wife.

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Apparently, they were both East-Enders.

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He spoke quite often about the characters in the East End

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and around the nightclubs and that.

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The research Bob has compiled

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could be the key to unlocking the case.

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But there is also a discrepancy about John's real name.

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The office has assumed that John's birth name was Smith,

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and so his family would be Smith too, but is this the case?

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The neighbour seems to think that Kiff was his name.

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'Right, OK.'

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And not Smith.

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'We're wondering if he's adopted, We're getting that checked out.'

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The heir hunters now can't be sure if his family will be Smiths or Kiffs,

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so are having to do their research under both names.

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The all-important birth record has still not been found.

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With two names to research,

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there are thousands of possibilities.

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Case is turning into a bit of a nightmare, really.

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I think I'm going to need to put on more researchers and travellers,

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and really, I think we're going to crack this case

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by weight of research and weight of numbers.

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With the whole office on the case, they have identified the deceased,

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John, got married to June in North London in 1977

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under his Kiff surname.

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Neil has dispatched a third travelling heir hunter, Dave Hadley,

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to pick up the marriage certificate in Edmonton.

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It should say the name of John's father,

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which could lead to John's birth and break the case wide open.

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-I've got that marriage certificate for you.

-You excellent man.

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It's John Edward Cecil Kiff, K-I-F-F.

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Married June Rose Coombs, C-O-O-M-B-S.

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-The address given at the time...

-Yeah.

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..was Edmonton, London, N9.

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His father is

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shown as a William Kiff.

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Deceased.

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John's father is a man called William Kiff,

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which suggests that John could

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indeed be born under his Kiff surname.

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This should be the breakthrough they need,

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but they cannot find any record of a John Kiff that matches.

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So, something is not right.

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There's something peculiar on this case. Not sure what yet.

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There's too many holes and unanswered questions at the moment.

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I think he's illegitimate, that's why we can't find him.

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It's not falling out anywhere...

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It's a fair old combination of names.

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You've got Kiff, which is good, as well.

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But...nah.

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Only two things will clarify the case -

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John's birth certificate or John's mother's maiden name.

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They cannot find either at present.

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The research has hit a brick wall.

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Could this case really get the better of Fraser's?

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We're going to have this problem all day, I know it.

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We can't find the birth.

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In which case, if we can't find it at all,

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we can only abandon the case, that's all we can do.

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In fact, the team continue to struggle with this case

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for the next two days

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until they reluctantly admit defeat,

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at least for now.

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The mystery surrounding John Kiff remains.

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Just where did he come from?

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And why did he change his name?

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Could it be as simple as an illegitimate birth or an adoption?

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Or it is something connected

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to John's past in the East End of London?

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When heir hunters investigate cases of people dying without a will,

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they come across fascinating stories,

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which otherwise would have been left untold.

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Ivy Sherry is one such case.

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She died in April 2009 from a stroke.

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She had spent the last few years of her life in Middlewich

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at an NHS-supported housing network,

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as she had lived for many years with a range of learning difficulties.

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Ivy had not made a will,

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and when she passed away,

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no relatives came forward.

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So, her case was placed

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on the Treasury's list of unclaimed estates.

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The case was then picked up by heir hunting firm Celtic Research fronted by

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Peter and Hector Birchwood. They have a team of regional

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case managers including Liverpool-based Saul Marks.

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He took on the investigation to track down

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Ivy's heirs.

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The main document to begin the case, really, was Ivy's birth certificate.

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We had to get that to find out who her parents were.

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She was born on 26th December 1934. Her mother

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was Lily Sherry, a domestic servant.

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There's no father on the birth certificate.

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That suggest strongly she was illegitimate.

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Illegitimacy is a crucial detail for heir hunters,

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as there is no need to try to trace a father or his family.

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Entitlement in these cases only stems down the maternal side.

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We knew there was no way we could establish her paternal line.

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Even if someone knew the answer, it would be pretty much impossible to prove.

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The investigation now centred on finding out more about

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Ivy's mother, Lily Sherry.

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If Saul could establish

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more facts about her life,

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it might lead to finding Ivy's heirs.

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Lily Sherry was born

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in Ludlow in Shropshire in 1907.

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She was born into a very large farming family.

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Lily's parents were a Richard Sherry and Martha Morgan.

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She was the sixth of an incredible 13 children.

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So, there is a good possibility that Ivy had cousins.

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However, if Lily herself had any other children,

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then they would be closer kin,

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and so inherit in preference to possible cousins.

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Finding out what happened to Ivy's mother, Lily, was critical.

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She is known within the wider family to have left for Liverpool

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and settled in Liverpool where she was in domestic service,

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and that is borne out by the information on the birth certificate.

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Although the domestic service industry has long since died out,

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in Lily's day, this was a very common profession.

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The late 19th century and early 20th century

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certainly can be thought of as the golden age of domestic service.

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It was larger as a single sector of workers than the industrial workers

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or even agricultural workers.

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Often it was the case that people from agricultural labouring families

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would get their training locally

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in say, the vicar's house, or the local big farmer

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and then want to move to

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either a big country house or to a town to sell those skills.

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Lily worked doing domestic duties in a large house in Botanic Road, Liverpool.

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Servants were usually relatively well looked after

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by the master of the house, but there was one major drawback.

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And that could have serious consequences for the case.

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The tradition and expectation that servants shouldn't marry

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was almost certainly, I think,

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based on the fact that their employers,

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masters and mistresses, if you like,

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didn't want to have the responsibility of extra families,

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extra mouths to feed living in with them.

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That would be a major restriction, an economic one, if you like.

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However, Saul discovered that Lily didn't always do what was expected of her,

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as she gave birth to Ivy out of wedlock

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in January 1935

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whilst a domestic servant.

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She married a year after Ivy was born to a Mr Birtley.

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So, we were then able to trace the children who she had had

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with Mr Birtley, of which there were quite a few.

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This was a very important discovery.

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Saul had now found nine possible half-siblings to Ivy.

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They also grew up in the Liverpool area,

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but it certainly wasn't an easy childhood.

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They lived a very hard life on the breadline, as it were.

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Their mother worked hard as a domestic servant

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to try and make ends meet.

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By searching through the electoral records,

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Saul began tracking down these potential half-siblings of Lily.

0:20:420:20:45

One of the first he contacted as a possible heir was Anne Dowling.

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But Saul was breaking news of more than just an inheritance.

0:20:510:20:55

Just couldn't believe it at first.

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Never even heard my mum mention that name or anything, anything at all.

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It's just a complete shock.

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We just wanted to know everything, which Saul didn't, really, know that much at that time.

0:21:060:21:12

It turned out that none of Anne's seven brothers or sisters

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knew anything about this supposed half-sibling either.

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Despite all being brought up together,

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none of them had ever heard of anyone called Ivy.

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Mum and Dad never, ever spoke about their early years.

0:21:270:21:32

I knew that she didn't marry my dad until 1935,

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so...

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But we just didn't know a thing.

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This came as a surprise to Saul.

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Had he really contacted the correct family?

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Here was a family who were astonished

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to hear that they had an illegitimate half-sister

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who they didn't know of.

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It's very unusual because even in families

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who have been estranged, who have split up,

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who have had feuds amongst them,

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people still know who they've fallen out with

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or who's moved to Australia or anything like that.

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We had to be very careful and make absolutely, doubly, triply sure that we were on the right lines.

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Saul went back to basics and double-checked Ivy's date of birth.

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The clinching factor here, really, is that the dates of birth match up exactly,

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so we know this is the same person.

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Saul had traced the right family.

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All of the other children had been brought up together, but had simply not heard of Ivy.

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So what could be the reason for Ivy's estrangement from all of her brothers and sisters?

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Still to come, the family secrets are laid bare,

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as Anne Dowling discovers all about her half-sister's past.

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It's just the idea that she was on her own.

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I just don't think it's fair.

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For every case that is solved,

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there are still thousands on the Treasury's list that remain a mystery.

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The deceased's assets are kept for up to 30 years, in the hope that, eventually,

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someone will remember and come forward to claim their inheritance.

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And with estates valued at anything from £5,000 to millions,

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the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

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Could you know the answer? Maybe you're in line for a windfall.

0:23:340:23:39

John K Robinson passed away on the 1st March 2007, in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.

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So far, every attempt to find his rightful heir has failed.

0:23:470:23:52

Does his name sound familiar to you? Could you be entitled to his legacy?

0:23:520:23:57

Kathleen Shackleford was a spinster who died in Southbourne, Bournemouth, in July 2008.

0:24:020:24:08

Do you know her? Was she a neighbour of yours?

0:24:090:24:12

If no relatives are found for John K Robinson or Kathleen Shackleford,

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their money will go to the government.

0:24:170:24:19

But could it be meant for you?

0:24:190:24:23

Later, we rejoin the team at Fraser and Fraser,

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nine months after they first started to investigate the case of John Kiff, formerly Smith.

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But could his estate still be bamboozling them?

0:24:370:24:40

In the estate of Ivy Sherry, nine half-siblings have been found by heir hunter Saul Marks.

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Amazingly, none of them had ever heard of Ivy, their half-sister.

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When Ivy was born, her mother, Lily was working as a domestic servant,

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and having children, especially out of wedlock, was deeply frowned upon.

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If Lily had wanted to keep her job, she could well have been expected to give up Ivy,

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which would explain her separation from her siblings in later life.

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At this time, Lily worked for an infamous figure, Battling Bessie Braddock,

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and she told her daughter, Anne, all about Bessie.

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I think I was on the tram with her, or something, and we were passing Deane Road, round by Botanic Park,

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and she said, "I used to live in that street. I used to be in service."

0:25:300:25:35

And that's when she told me about working for Bessie Braddock.

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And I thought, "Ooh, Mum worked for someone famous."

0:25:390:25:43

SHE LAUGHS

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Bessie Braddock was a controversial MP from Liverpool.

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She was a fervent champion of the working class in the Labour Party,

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so if anyone was going to flout convention by allowing a single mum, like Lily, to keep her job,

0:25:520:25:57

it was Bessie.

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Bessie Braddock was a formidable woman.

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She became an MP after the war.

0:26:020:26:06

She was an MP for 24 years.

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She campaigned tirelessly for workers' rights in Liverpool, to her dying day.

0:26:090:26:15

During the 1930s, Liverpool and its famous Dockyard were hit hard by the Great Depression,

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and the resulting poverty that Bessie saw shaped her political convictions.

0:26:200:26:25

The only alternative solution to the problem

0:26:250:26:28

lies in complete abolition of prescription charges.

0:26:280:26:32

As youngsters, we were told the stories about her at a very early age.

0:26:330:26:38

My grandmother told me about her, my parents told me about her.

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Never mind John Lennon. She was the Liverpool working-class hero.

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Bessie was certainly fond of Lily, and Anne remembers her talking about attending her mum and dad's wedding.

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She said Bessie Braddock came to the wedding, and she wouldn't kneel down in church because she was an atheist.

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And I think that's the very first time I heard that word - atheist.

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Although Lily moved on from Bessie's employment when she subsequently married,

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it is hard to imagine Bessie would have been the cause of Ivy's estrangement from the family.

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I think Bessie Braddock would have been very sympathetic with Lily and what she'd had to go through.

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I think she could see that she was trying to bring up young children,

0:27:210:27:24

and the plight that she'd found herself in.

0:27:240:27:27

I think she would have had every sympathy with her. It's that type of person that she fought for.

0:27:270:27:33

So, if employment is not the cause,

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then what could be the reason for Ivy's separation from her many siblings?

0:27:350:27:40

Saul is meeting heir and half-sister Anne Dowling to reveal more and to try and find out about Ivy's life.

0:27:410:27:48

-Hello.

-Hello.

-Are you all right?

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This is the cause of death.

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"1A" is a cerebrovascular accident, which is a stroke.

0:27:520:27:56

-Yeah.

-Point two is learning difficulties, epilepsy and previous TIAs.

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TIAs are mini strokes.

0:28:020:28:04

At the time of her death, Ivy had many learning difficulties and was living in supportive housing.

0:28:050:28:12

Her carers were the closest people in her life.

0:28:120:28:15

I've spoken to some of the neighbours of this address.

0:28:170:28:20

One of the women said that she remembered Ivy and that Ivy was blind.

0:28:200:28:25

-Ah, no.

-I don't know how long she was blind for,

0:28:250:28:28

but they remember her being blind and they remembered the name Ivy Sherry.

0:28:280:28:35

Oh, God.

0:28:350:28:36

-Oh, that's just thrown me a bit.

-Aw.

0:28:380:28:41

It turned out, Ivy was diagnosed blind from an early age.

0:28:440:28:49

Coupled with her other learning difficulties, could this range of disabilities

0:28:490:28:54

explain why her mother gave her up?

0:28:540:28:57

I'm just ima...

0:29:000:29:01

My imagination's working overtime.

0:29:010:29:04

I know how close I am to my family and my children.

0:29:040:29:09

I just can't imagine the life that she's had.

0:29:090:29:13

I just wish I'd known her and I just wish...

0:29:140:29:17

I just don't think it's fair.

0:29:200:29:22

When Ivy was born, in 1934, disability was looked upon in a very different way.

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It was extremely common then,

0:29:300:29:32

for people with even minor learning difficulties,

0:29:320:29:35

to be placed in an institution, away from their family.

0:29:350:29:38

and this is probably what happened with Ivy.

0:29:380:29:41

From the early 20th century,

0:29:420:29:44

the momentum to segregate people with learning difficulties

0:29:440:29:47

from the rest of society gained momentum.

0:29:470:29:49

It was a matter of shame and stigma to have a child with a learning difficulty.

0:29:490:29:54

So the pressures there, as well, to accept an institutional place,

0:29:540:29:59

or even to ask for one, were quite intense.

0:29:590:30:03

Although Ivy was put into care, at the time,

0:30:040:30:07

it was often seen as the best thing a mother could do for herself and her child.

0:30:070:30:13

It would be very wrong to judge Lily's decision to put Ivy into an institution by today's lights.

0:30:130:30:21

Remember that Lily would have been subject to double stigma as an unmarried mother,

0:30:210:30:27

and as having a disabled child,

0:30:270:30:30

that she faced huge practical difficulties. She would have had no financial support from the state,

0:30:300:30:36

she would have had no practical support in caring for her daughter,

0:30:360:30:40

and she may well have thought that her daughter would have a better future in an institution

0:30:400:30:46

than she would in the alternative, which was a workhouse.

0:30:460:30:49

After learning about the half-sister she never knew she had,

0:30:510:30:54

heir Anne Dowling is making her way with her son, Kenny,

0:30:540:30:57

to the care home where Ivy spent her final years.

0:30:570:31:01

She has resolved to discover more about her half-sister and her life in care.

0:31:010:31:07

We're just about to go to the home where Ivy lived,

0:31:070:31:11

and see if we can get any photographs or learn as much as we can about her here and...

0:31:110:31:18

..just find out as much as we can, really.

0:31:210:31:23

In a private, but illuminating, meeting,

0:31:230:31:26

Anne managed to find out lots of enlightening information about Ivy from her carers.

0:31:260:31:32

This meeting has left her one step closer to knowing her half-sister.

0:31:320:31:37

They said she was a happy person...

0:31:370:31:39

could stand up for herself, even though she was blind...

0:31:390:31:44

er...loved her holidays.

0:31:440:31:46

They went away, every year, on holiday. She loved Blackpool, Rhyl...

0:31:460:31:53

Yeah, but they said she was a real character,

0:31:540:31:56

and she was really well thought of, they loved her.

0:31:560:31:59

So that's made me feel a lot easier.

0:31:590:32:04

Anne has also managed to see Ivy's memory box from the care home and look at some photos.

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Her resemblance to the rest of the family is clear to Anne, and Ivy's friends.

0:32:100:32:15

As soon as I walked in, they went, "You can tell you're Ivy's sister. You look like her."

0:32:150:32:20

It's just amazing. You couldn't deny she was one of our sisters.

0:32:200:32:25

the estate of Ivy Sherry has raised a whole host of emotions and questions for Anne.

0:32:260:32:32

She has now had to reconsider her own relationship with her mother,

0:32:320:32:35

who passed away in 1982.

0:32:350:32:38

When I first found out...

0:32:380:32:42

I was... I felt as if I'd been cheated. I felt angry...

0:32:420:32:46

..at my mum.

0:32:470:32:49

And then...

0:32:510:32:52

..I had to think back of what it was like then.

0:32:540:32:57

You know, all them years ago. At the time there was no help.

0:32:570:33:02

You didn't get dole money, you didn't...

0:33:020:33:05

There was nothing like that then.

0:33:050:33:08

If you didn't work, you didn't eat.

0:33:080:33:11

You didn't live.

0:33:110:33:13

So...yeah. It was understandable then.

0:33:130:33:18

Very.

0:33:180:33:20

Saul's research into the estate of Ivy Sherry was accepted by the Treasury,

0:33:200:33:25

with a total of 19 heirs each inheriting part of her £8,000 assets.

0:33:250:33:30

But what his investigation has revealed to the family means far more to them than the money alone.

0:33:300:33:36

The case of John Kiff, formerly Smith, was first started by Fraser and Fraser in January 2009.

0:33:490:33:56

But they couldn't find a birth certificate, and the case was shelved.

0:33:560:34:00

John died in Littlehampton, Sussex, although he was known to have come from London, originally,

0:34:000:34:06

where he had a colourful past in the East End.

0:34:060:34:09

I think he thought he was a bit of a Jack the lad.

0:34:090:34:12

He mentioned to my husband that he knew the Krays because he lived in that area.

0:34:120:34:17

It gave him a bit of kudos, didn't it?

0:34:170:34:19

SHE LAUGHS

0:34:190:34:21

Although the team threw all their resources at finding heirs,

0:34:210:34:24

the case remains unsolved, as they still haven't established which name John was born under,

0:34:240:34:30

nor a maiden name for John's mother.

0:34:300:34:33

Without these key details, it's been impossible to progress the case.

0:34:330:34:37

There's something peculiar on this case. I'm not quite sure what it is yet.

0:34:370:34:42

There's too many holes, too many unanswered questions at the moment.

0:34:420:34:46

It's now nine months later,

0:34:510:34:54

and, since their original research,

0:34:540:34:56

millions of birth, death and marriage records have been computerised,

0:34:560:35:00

allowing for a whole host of new search options to be come available for the heir hunters.

0:35:000:35:05

There's been a lot of change in how genealogy and research and heir hunting really takes place.

0:35:050:35:13

Developing into the computer age and more and more indexes are put online.

0:35:140:35:19

We're able to conduct searches almost the wrong way round, just because the records are on the computers.

0:35:190:35:27

Neil has decided to pull out the Kiff/Smith case files to have another look.

0:35:270:35:32

But will the new systems provide a breakthrough?

0:35:320:35:36

The team know, from the electoral records, that in 1976, John was named Kiff,

0:35:360:35:42

and was living with a lady called Maud B Kiff.

0:35:420:35:45

They believe that this is his mother.

0:35:450:35:47

they also know that John called his father a William Kiff, when he got married in 1977.

0:35:470:35:53

Using the new computerised searches,

0:35:530:35:56

Neil has come up with a possible marriage of John's parents,

0:35:560:35:59

which they hadn't previously found.

0:35:590:36:02

It has the name of the father as Cecil, not William,

0:36:020:36:05

and also assumes that they married 21 years after John was born.

0:36:050:36:09

so why would his parents marry so long after having him?

0:36:090:36:13

All indication from the index of the marriage is that they were co-habiting.

0:36:130:36:20

That Maud was living with Cecil

0:36:220:36:25

and assumed the surname of Kiff.

0:36:250:36:29

So there's a variation on the Christian name of the father of the deceased,

0:36:290:36:34

as well as the time period when we expected the marriage to be.

0:36:340:36:39

And those two bits being slightly strange is what stopped us finding the marriage, firstly.

0:36:390:36:45

It certainly is a breakthrough, if it's correct, so fingers crossed.

0:36:450:36:50

If right, the all-important detail is that John's mother's maiden name is Hurley.

0:36:530:36:59

It sounds like a long shot, but there's only one way to find out.

0:36:590:37:04

Neil has made it his personal priority to go to Camden Register Office

0:37:070:37:12

to collect the corresponding birth certificate.

0:37:120:37:15

I hope I'm going to go and pick up a document which we've been looking for now for about nine months.

0:37:150:37:21

It's a birth certificate of the deceased.

0:37:210:37:23

We've probably applied for 50 or 60 different birth certificates

0:37:230:37:28

and had a little break on finding a marriage,

0:37:280:37:31

and, fingers crossed, this is going to be the right birth.

0:37:310:37:34

It's been a long time looking for this one. Let's go.

0:37:340:37:38

After a half hour wait, Neil has retrieved a certificate.

0:37:420:37:47

But does it have the crucial information on to prove that it is finally

0:37:470:37:50

the birth record of John Cecil Edward Smith?

0:37:500:37:55

Good news.

0:37:550:37:57

Cecil Edward is born on the 9th June 1927...

0:37:570:38:01

is obviously a boy, no father shown.

0:38:010:38:05

Maud Beatrice Smith, formerly Hurley, of no occupation.

0:38:070:38:11

On our certificate, it's Cecil Edward Smith.

0:38:110:38:14

Er...obviously we were looking for it as John.

0:38:140:38:17

All the searches we've put in have all been based around Johns.

0:38:170:38:22

And obviously, he's got no John mentioned on the certificate at all.

0:38:220:38:26

So that's a little bit strange for us.

0:38:260:38:29

It IS the breakthrough they need.

0:38:290:38:31

Although he is born as Cecil Edward Smith, instead of John Edward Cecil Smith,

0:38:310:38:36

the crucial information is there - Maud Beatrice Smith is the mother

0:38:360:38:41

and her maiden name was, indeed, Hurley.

0:38:410:38:43

It says the mother's Maud Beatrice Smith, formerly Hurley,

0:38:430:38:48

no occupation, we've got an address for her as well.

0:38:480:38:52

No father shown, which means we can only prove half blood.

0:38:520:38:55

We don't need to find anything on the paternal side of the family, just the maternal side.

0:38:550:38:59

As John did not have any children of his own, and his mother, Maud, has passed away,

0:39:000:39:05

the lines of inheritance dictate that the next nearest kin

0:39:050:39:09

will be siblings or half-siblings of the deceased.

0:39:090:39:12

Maud was married at least twice, so there is a good possibility that she could have had children.

0:39:120:39:18

Case manager David Milchard has now taken over the investigation, but can he track down any family?

0:39:180:39:25

From her first marriage to Alfred Cole, she had three children.

0:39:250:39:29

A Joyce, an Alfred and a Ronald.

0:39:290:39:33

So they are, in effect, half-siblings to the deceased.

0:39:340:39:39

Alfred and Ronald, we still haven't accounted for, we're still working on that.

0:39:400:39:44

Joyce, she died about ten years ago, but she's survived by three children.

0:39:440:39:51

It seems John had three half-siblings.

0:39:510:39:54

And his half-sister, Joyce, also had three children.

0:39:540:39:57

One of Joyce's children died as a minor.

0:39:570:40:00

However, Linda and her brother are still alive.

0:40:000:40:04

The researchers have identified Linda's address in Romford

0:40:040:40:07

and so traveller Ewart Lindsay has been sent out to meet her.

0:40:070:40:11

A car is in the driveway.

0:40:120:40:15

After a nine-month wait, the end looks tantalisingly in sight.

0:40:160:40:21

Can half-niece Linda confirm that her mother was Joyce?

0:40:210:40:26

And can Ewart sign her up to be the first heir on this baffling investigation?

0:40:260:40:32

This is really exciting, isn't it?

0:40:320:40:35

-Your mother's maiden name?

-Cole.

0:40:350:40:39

-And her Christian names were...?

-Joyce Irene Maud.

0:40:390:40:44

-And do you know where your mother died?

-Where?

-Where?

0:40:440:40:48

That would be in Deal.

0:40:480:40:49

Linda and her husband, Malcolm, have confirmed enough information to reassure the heir hunters

0:40:490:40:55

that she is, indeed, going to be a beneficiary on the estate of John Kiff.

0:40:550:41:00

Do you know, when you leave, I'm going to go out in the garden and go, "Yes!"

0:41:000:41:05

THEY LAUGH

0:41:050:41:07

At the moment, my stomach's going over, thinking how exciting it is.

0:41:070:41:11

Cos Malcolm's just retired, we are a bit... We're not poor, but we could do with a little bit of extra money

0:41:110:41:19

and it's wonderful. Really wonderful.

0:41:190:41:23

-Yes!

-It may have taken them nine months,

0:41:230:41:26

but Fraser and Fraser have finally risen to the challenge of John Kiff's £150,000 estate,

0:41:260:41:33

and found the two rightful heirs.

0:41:330:41:35

The case has been beset by problems every step of the way,

0:41:350:41:39

but case manager Dave Milchard takes the most satisfaction from cases like these.

0:41:390:41:44

Thankfully, he's been able to obtain an agreement from us, so we can pursue a claim on their behalf.

0:41:440:41:50

It's what I call a real job.

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It feels as though you've actually done something and...

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..if it all comes off and we get our fee, we've earnt our money.

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John Kiff, otherwise Cecil Smith, otherwise John Smith,

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may have led a life shrouded in mystery,

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but friend Pam believes this would be just the way he would have wanted it.

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John would say that...

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he'd been known under other names

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and he'd had other names and we used to wonder if his surname was the real surname

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or if it was like one that he'd adopted.

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We didn't know for sure. He was a bit of an enigma, really.

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He's...very difficult to get to the bottom of.

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Probably enjoyed it, you know. Gave you something to think about, didn't it?

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I think he liked a bit of mystery about himself, really.

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Oh, you'll remember John, yes, definitely. He made quite an impression on you.

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Yeah. Mm. One way or another.

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