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Every year, thousands of people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives come forward, then their estates will go to the government.

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Keeping this money in the family is a job for the Heir Hunters.

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On today's programme...

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Can the travelling Heir Hunters keep up with the pace in the office?

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Dave, it's David here in the office. I need to speak to you as soon as possible.

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We've got another address. I'd like you to go round as soon as possible.

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And the Heir Hunters are contacted by the neighbours of a derelict house which is causing them grief.

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We got the council involved because it kept getting broken into.

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There were hypodermic syringes and all things like that. It was terrible.

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Plus, we'll have information on some of the hundreds of estates still waiting to be claimed.

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Could you be in line for a windfall?

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Two-thirds of people in the UK don't have a valid will

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and therefore no record of their last wishes.

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If they die before they've made one and no next of kin are found, their money goes to the government

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who last year alone made a whopping £18 million from unclaimed estates.

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That's where the Heir Hunters step in.

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-Pleased to meet you.

-More than 30 heir-hunting companies make it their business to find long-lost relatives

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and it can be rewarding for the unsuspecting heirs.

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In the last ten years alone, one of the oldest companies in Britain, Fraser & Fraser,

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has enabled a staggering £100 million to be inherited.

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-Good morning, Pat.

-Morning.

-It's Thursday, the office's busiest day of the week.

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The Treasury has published its latest list of unclaimed estates,

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so the team have been up early hunting for cases worth pursuing further.

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Company partner Neil Fraser homed in on the estate of Peter Hollins.

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We can be looking at an estate value of £150,000 to possibly £300,000,

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certainly a good, valuable case,

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so we will get straight on to that.

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A valuable case like this will attract competition, so the team need to work quickly.

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Who's got the Hollins job?

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Initial investigations show that Peter Hollins died aged 70

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in his home in Croydon, Surrey.

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His friend Tom first met him over 35 years ago at a party.

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With people around him, he was very bubbly, a very bubbly man, very entertaining.

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He loved people round for dinner. That was one of the main things he loved to do. He loved to cook.

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Um...parties. But underneath all this, he was very, very lonely.

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Peter never married and as he died without leaving a will,

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his estate, which could be worth as much as £300,000,

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will go into the Treasury's coffers unless heirs are found.

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Researcher Simon is put on to the case.

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Immediately, he starts looking for the all-important birth record.

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Simon knows this is his most important task of the day so far, but already it's not going well.

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For our deceased, we can't find a birth for him.

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If the address we've got is correct, he should have been born in the March quarter of 1939.

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And there isn't one that we can find.

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We're trying a few variations, otherwise, potentially, he was adopted.

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Without a birth certificate, it is virtually impossible for the team to build up a family tree

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as they will be unable to verify the names of Peter's parents.

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Hitting brick walls in the office, they start to explore other avenues.

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We're going to deploy Dave Hadley.

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He's going to head down there, do an enquiry, speak to some of the neighbours.

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There's not very much on the phone at the moment, so we'll see where that leads us. Dave's our key man.

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Ex-police officer Dave Hadley is one of several travelling Heir Hunters based up and down the country

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who are just waiting for a call to be dispatched wherever the case takes them.

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They play an invaluable role, picking up vital birth, death and marriage certificates,

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as well as gathering information from neighbours,

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but their key job is signing up heirs ahead of the competition.

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With nothing concrete to go on in the office,

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it's down to Dave to see if he can uncover information about Peter.

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The idea is to speak to neighbours, speak to friends,

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see what they can tell me about the individual

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and get some idea of how big the estate is,

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where he was born, whether he was married, whether he had children.

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The name of his parents if I can get it, brothers and sisters, this type of thing.

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As Dave tries to get information for a family tree out on the road...

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..back in the office, the team decide to look into other options.

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The absence of a birth record for Peter may mean he was adopted,

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so the team start to investigate this possibility further.

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Being adopted is the same as having a total blood transfusion. You form part of your new family.

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The blood family we are now looking for are the adopted family, the father and mother.

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But if Peter was adopted, this could potentially delay their search.

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Adoptions are indexed by the parents' married surnames only,

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so there are no Christian or, more importantly, maiden names on these records.

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The only way to acquire these names is via the adoption certificate,

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but these records can take 24 hours to arrive, so in the meantime,

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they'll need to go down a different route.

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We're going to try and do a lot more enquiries

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and try and work back the address of Peter

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and see if we can get a name.

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If we can get one person living with him at one time, we may be able to get a Christian name

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to be able to work out either the mother or the father, and therefore we can roll from that.

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The team discover that Peter lived in the same house for many years,

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so Simon goes through all the records connected to the property

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to see if there is anyone else associated with it, and one name keeps cropping up.

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A Rose Florence Moon.

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Born in 1901.

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It's all a bit of spec on the basis that it was an adoption.

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We can't be 100% sure that Rose is the mother of the deceased.

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It just looks the most likely marriage to go with...

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Although everything points towards Rose Moon being Peter's mother,

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until they get it confirmed, the team can still only speculate.

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They need hard evidence and are relying on travelling Heir Hunter Dave Hadley to come up with it.

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Right, we've arrived at the address. It looks like a private house.

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I'm going to knock at the neighbours first.

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On a case like this, any clues the neighbours can give will be invaluable.

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-I'm making enquiries about Peter, Peter Hollins that lived at Number 12.

-Yeah.

-Did you know him at all?

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-I only know him...

-As a neighbour?

-Yeah.

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Do you know where he was born, was he adopted or anything like that?

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-We heard that he was adopted.

-Right.

-I know he came here 30 years ago.

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-Did he?

-Yeah, he lived here for 30 years.

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-You don't know if he had any children?

-He definitely had no children because he was gay.

-Right.

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Dave is already starting to build up a picture of Peter's life

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which, according to his friend Tom, is pretty accurate.

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He was brought up in a time when being gay was quite taboo.

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And not accepted, nowhere near to what it is now.

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And I think this reflected in his personality.

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I think this is probably why he was so withdrawn, if you like,

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because he was obviously worried about people's response about being gay.

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Peter lived a lonely life and never found his soul mate.

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The trouble with Peter was he used to...

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He used to set his expectations high.

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He used to see a personality, a good-looking man on television

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and he wanted to be with somebody like that.

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I used to say to him, "Peter, you've got to set your standards a little lower, if you like,

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"because if you take that attitude, you're never going to get anybody."

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And sadly, that was the case. He didn't.

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Peter became more isolated as he got older

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and towards the end of his life, he refused to see anyone, even his close friend Tom.

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He told no-one about his last wishes, so the search for his beneficiaries goes on.

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We're trying to find relatives for Peter. Do you know what his parents' names were?

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-Rose.

-Definitely Rose?

-Rose.

-That's great.

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-That's what we thought. Rose Moon?

-That's it.

-Lovely. Thank you very much. That's confirmed it.

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It's the breakthrough they've been after.

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Dave's street enquiries have been able to confirm Peter's mother was as they suspected - Rose Moon.

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So finally, back in the office, the team are able to start to draw up a family tree.

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Senior case manager David Pacifico comes on board.

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As Peter was Rose's only child,

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they need to look towards the extended family for heirs.

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Investigations show that Rose was the daughter of Charles Moon and Ada Penfold.

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They had two other children, Herbert and Leslie.

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Herbert was married twice, but died without any children.

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Leslie had two daughters, Josephine and Christina.

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Christina died without having children,

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so it appears that Josephine is the only heir on this stem, but there is a snag.

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Born in Croydon, she now lives up in Angus in Scotland

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and unfortunately, the office has no travellers based up there.

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Neil can only phone her, but he's not the only heir-hunting company in contact with her this morning.

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Take care. Goodbye.

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She has been contacted by the competition. They phoned her very early this morning.

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They are going to visit her. I do not want to visit her as well.

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I don't think it's fair to put the family under undue pressure to sign any agreement.

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This time, Neil has decided to go for the softly, softly approach and only write to the heir.

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But he knows he is taking a risk as the heir may end up signing with the competition.

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The office's painstaking detective work may have led them to their first heir,

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but further digging by Simon shows that Josephine might not be the only heir on the Moon side after all.

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Although their initial investigations showed that Herbert Moon didn't have any children,

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Simon has now discovered that he had a son Desmond from his first marriage.

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So we have another heir on the Moon side which we didn't know about,

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so there's now more than one stem that are entitled.

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Hopefully, we might be the first to this one.

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With competition hot on their heels, it's vital that the team get to Desmond first.

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David Pacifico finds an address for him and puts in a call to Dave.

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Dave, it's David here in the office. I need to speak to you.

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Looks like we've got another address. I would like you to go round as soon as possible.

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Coming up - as the hunt for heirs hots up,

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things aren't as straightforward as they first appear.

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When did he die?

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Research into cases advertised by the Treasury is only one part of Fraser & Fraser's business.

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Some estates are referred to them directly from members of the public.

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In November 2009, Neil Fraser was told of a vacant property falling into disrepair.

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It's an estate which came from a slightly different source for us.

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It came from someone who lives in the neighbourhood and referred the property to us,

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not the deceased's estate.

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They're interested in us trying to find out who owned the house

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and from who owned the house, where they are now and if they're going to do anything about it.

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Value-wise, I think we're looking at probably in the region of £200,000.

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When we look at the street, the house stands out. It's the only one with boards up on the windows.

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It's the only one with a garage next door which looks like it's falling down and it's certainly unpainted.

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So it stands out as being the eyesore in the road

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and you can understand now why the neighbour or the neighbours around wanted to sort out this house.

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The house is a three-bedroomed, semi-detached property in Birmingham.

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Part of a 1930s development, the house has been vacant for over two years

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and is in a very shabby condition.

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Next-door neighbour Robert Fereday has always found the area peaceful,

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but recently, the house next door has become a constant nuisance.

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We got the council involved because of the break-ins. It kept getting broken into all the time.

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The council came along, we went in there and there was hypodermic syringes all over the floor.

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I don't know what it was used for, but they were breaking in on a regular basis.

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It's awful because you don't know what's going on.

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You hear a noise in the night. They would come over the fence into here.

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We're completely vulnerable at the back. At one stage, it was every other week. It was terrible.

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Robert had reached the end of his tether as he had heard nothing

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about how much longer it might sit vacant for,

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so he contacted the Heir Hunters to see what they could do.

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It's important for us to identify who owns the property.

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It's owned by two different people which gives us a slight headache to start with. It's shared ownership.

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In this case, we got some enquiries that it was about a John Ashby.

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When we get the document, it says actually, "John Durham Jocelyn Ashby,"

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so straight away, we've been able to extend his name out by giving two extra middle names,

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which makes it very easy to identify.

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John Ashby was the last resident at the address

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and Robert knew him well before he passed away in April 2007.

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John was a very private man. He liked his snooker. We used to talk snooker quite a bit.

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If you went out with him socially, which I did on a couple of occasions, I went to his club, he was fine.

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He was very talkative, but round the houses, round here, no, he didn't want to talk.

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One thing John did speak affectionately about was his time in the army.

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Friends recount that he worked as an interpreter for a number of years,

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even mentioning working under General Montgomery,

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the man fabled for leading the Allied troops in North Africa against General Rommel in 1942.

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John was said to later have requested a transfer to the Royal Artillery

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where he eventually reached the rank of Major.

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He was in Burma and all those places, you know.

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He served in the war quite a bit.

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As he had died, it would be John's beneficiaries that had an interest in the property,

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so Neil needed to do some more enquiries.

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As far as we're aware at the moment, Mr Ashby didn't leave a will.

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We've still yet to search the property and it may well be in the property

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and there's a few more enquiries which have still got to come back,

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but we cannot find a will, so we treat him as intestate,

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and we draw back his family tree to find the next of kin, as we do on most of our other estates.

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Unlike other cases, however, Neil knew that this property was jointly owned.

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The other owner was a Mr Prior who had also already passed away.

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In Mr Prior's case, a will has already been discovered,

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so his portion is in theory very straightforward to redistribute.

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We know exactly where the property is going to go because he has left a will.

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From that point of view, we will just contact the executors or the beneficiaries

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and we'll make them aware of the existence of an additional asset really.

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However, whilst Mr Ashby's part remained unsolved,

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Number 94, Shirley Road would remain a thorn in the neighbours' side.

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Fraser & Fraser decided to investigate properly

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and case manager David Pacifico took over the task of finding heirs to the estate of John Ashby.

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We needed to start somewhere and therefore used our guy in Birmingham, Paul Matthews,

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to see if he could obtain more information,

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as well as obtaining the death certificates and other local enquiries.

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Paul Matthews is a regional Heir Hunter who travels around the country to pick up certificates.

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That's great. Thank you very much.

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And make local enquiries, all in the quest to sign up heirs.

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Was that George?

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OK, cheers. Thank you.

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He has made his way to Solihull Register Office to pick up the death certificate.

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It should confirm John's full name, date of birth

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and might even name a close friend of John's as an informant.

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I've now got the certificate of the deceased who is John Durham Jocelyn Ashby.

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We've got an address where he used to live.

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We were hoping for a good informant.

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Unfortunately, it's a coroner's job,

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so, basically, there's no informant on this one and we can't get it at this moment in time.

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So we'll have to go to the property where the deceased used to live.

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It's not all we wanted, but it's a start.

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A coroner informs on a death when the cause is unclear, sudden or even suspicious.

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John died of a coronary heart disease,

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exacerbated by bronchopneumonia and infected sores.

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Although initially uncertain, the inquest established that this was the result of natural causes.

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Unfortunately for the Heir Hunters, a coroner rarely knows the deceased personally,

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so this information will be of little help to their investigation.

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However, research in the office led by Gareth Langford progressed

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as they found records indicating who John's parents were.

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What we were looking at was we had an Edgar Ashby and a Nora Badham.

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Once we had established the parents' marriage, we had to see if the deceased had any brothers or sisters.

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It turns out he did - Hugh. Hugh was born in 1926 in West Bromwich.

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Unfortunately, it looks like he died a bachelor and he didn't have any issue,

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so from our point of view, that was a dead end for us.

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Neither John nor his brother Hugh ever married.

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They remained close to each other and lived around the corner from one another for most of their lives.

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A lady who knew them both for over 25 years was Dallas.

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They were two very different people.

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Physically, and their attitude.

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But they always did things together.

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If one had come down here, the other one would come down here. They always did things together.

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The thing I remember most about both of them is Hugh complaining to me

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that John wasn't domestic, not domesticated in any way.

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So Hugh used to go home whenever he could

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to at least maintain the front garden because he worried about the neighbours.

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That wasn't important in John's life. He was his own person.

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Quite happy to be doing what he wanted to do.

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John might not have put a high value on appearances, but as well as being a major in the army,

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he was an accountant by trade, so Dallas never expected his final affairs to be so disorganised.

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I'm very surprised that John, who struck me as being efficient,

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didn't make his will, but then maybe, particularly after Hugh died,

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he would have been on his own.

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Maybe he didn't feel that he knew what to do

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or what sort of will... what he was wanting to do.

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As neither John nor Hugh had any children, the office had to look for cousins or their descendants

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to find heirs on the estate.

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Back in Birmingham, Paul has made his way to the house where John lived.

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His first port of call is to visit next door neighbour Robert

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to see if he can shed any more light on John's estate or family.

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I came to see your husband about the house next door. Can you spare us a few minutes?

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Got the grandkids in?

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See, what happened was there were two brothers, both willed each other.

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One died first leaving everything to his brother.

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Then before it was all done, before he changed his will, he died.

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-So the two brothers died.

-So in effect there's no will at all.

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It turns out John did leave a will and left everything to Hugh.

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Unfortunately, Hugh died in 2005 so the will is invalid

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as there are no provisions for what happens in the event of his death.

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It is, after all, an intestacy case so Fraser's need to find heirs.

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Robert has also mentioned that when Hugh died, he left everything to John

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so all of his possessions, including a house, will add to John's estate.

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-So basically the brother has left John a property.

-That's right.

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And John was an accountant, a major in the army, never married.

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Oh, right...

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-So you think it's a large estate.

-I think so.

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This is an important new piece of information. John's estate now comprises of two houses

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and other possessions, so it's currently estimated to be worth £500,000.

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With such a valuable case unsolved, the heir hunters desperately need to find uncles and aunts

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who might have had children.

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The focus of the investigation has switched back to the office.

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Can Gareth find an heir or will the £500,000 estate go to the government?

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For every case that is cracked, many thousands remain a mystery.

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When someone dies, their assets are kept for up to 30 years

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in the hope that, ultimately, someone will remember and come forward to claim their legacy.

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The estates can range wildly in value from £5,000 to many millions

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with the rightful heirs unaware of the windfall they could claim.

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Today we've got two cases heir hunters have failed to solve.

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Could you have the answer? Maybe you're entitled to a windfall.

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James Mackin Currie Hutchison died in Bristol on 6th July, 1999.

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So far, every effort to find his rightful heir has failed,

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but could you be in line for a share of his legacy?

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Paul Jules passed away on 12th May, 2001

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in Stepney Green, East London. Do you recognise his name?

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Did he live in your neighbourhood? Maybe you're even related to him and one of his heirs.

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If no next of kin are found for James Hutchison or Paul Jules,

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their cash will go to the government, but could it be meant for you?

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Heir hunting company Fraser and Fraser has been looking into the case of Peter Hollins.

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He died in 2009, leaving behind an estate that could be worth

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anywhere between £150,000 and £300,000.

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But this will end up in the Treasury's coffers unless his rightful beneficiaries are found.

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As Peter was adopted, the team initially found it tricky to trace his family tree.

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I can't see any Peter D Hollins.

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But by pulling together evidence discovered door to door,

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the team were able to establish who Peter's adoptive parents were

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and started to look towards his extended family for heirs.

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Now Dave is searching for the final pieces of the puzzle and heads to the last known address of a cousin.

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-It's not good news.

-When did he die?

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Unfortunately, Desmond passed away earlier this year, but he had four sons.

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One lives at this address, but is at work. Another son is on his way.

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As Desmond has died, his share of Peter's estate passes on to his four sons

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and so all Dave can do now is wait.

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Meanwhile, back in the office, senior case manager David Pacifico has been relentless

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in searching the paternal side.

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Haven't had a stop for a drink yet!

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Investigations show that Peter's father Frederick was was the son of Frances Hollins and Edith Simmons.

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They had eight children in total,

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so David is painstakingly looking for their children as they would all be potential heirs.

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I'm looking for the descendants of this Doris Irene Hill, formerly Hollins, who married back in 1919.

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We're still not certain how many children they had. We're certain of one son called Frederick.

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They may well have had a daughter, Kathleen.

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While David Pacifico continues in the office, back on the road David number two has just finished

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a successful meeting with one of Peter's first cousins once removed.

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We had a good interview. He's given me a little bit of information about one of his brothers

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and I've got an appointment to see another brother tomorrow.

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So it was really useful and it went really well. He's happy to sign an agreement.

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I'll pass that to the office.

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Dave will return to Desmond's house later to meet another heir.

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Due to all of his hard work on the road, back in the office things are now coming together, too.

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We've been quite lucky because of the surname, the Hollins surname.

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With that, it's enabled us to speculatively find the deaths of the parents.

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We found the deaths of the parents and got on to the family

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and they've been able to confirm about Peter being adopted.

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David Pacifico has been working through the paternal side of the family tree

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and has just got hold of one of Peter's cousins.

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That's a very interesting call.

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She had two siblings. Frederick, who died in Aberdeen - that's why we couldn't pick him up for certain -

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who has got a son living up there in Aberdeen. We'll get his address.

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And a sister Joan. She's had no contact for some 40-odd years.

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It seems Joan didn't want to know about her family and disappeared.

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So we've got to track her down.

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Doris Hollins married Frederick Hill and had three children, Peter's first cousins.

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They will all be entitled to a share of the estate.

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By speaking to Kathleen, David has discovered that Frederick's share will be passed down to his son

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but the whereabouts of their sister Joan remains a mystery.

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The team will need to find her, though, as she, like Peter's other heirs, could be in line

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for a life-changing sum of money.

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Being conservative, and without really looking into it,

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I'd hope for a value of around £200,000. £200,000 over the five stems is £40,000 per stem.

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On two of them there's only one beneficiary, so it's a pretty good situation for them.

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With all the twists and turns and the sheer number of heirs,

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they have to take the case into a second day.

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So early the next morning Neil gets another travelling heir hunter, Ewart Lindsay, on the road.

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He's off to see one of Peter's cousins, Kathleen.

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I've got an appointment to see an heir, a first cousin to the deceased on the paternal side of this case.

0:31:250:31:31

I'm hoping I'll be on time.

0:31:340:31:37

The traffic's looking pretty good.

0:31:370:31:39

Also out and about this morning is another one of the team's experienced probate researchers.

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Mr Moon? Hello. David Hadley. Pleased to meet you.

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Dave signed up one of Peter's heirs yesterday, his cousin Desmond's son,

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-and now hopes to get another one onside.

-I work for a company called Fraser and Fraser.

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We're probate researchers. We trace missing heirs and beneficiaries.

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So we picked up a case yesterday of a gentleman that passed away in Croydon earlier this year.

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-We believe that you and your brothers are related to this person through your father.

-Right.

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While Dave Hadley is passing on news of a potential windfall to an unsuspecting relative,

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in the office the team's detective work has solved the mystery of Kathleen's long-lost sister.

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Case manager Frances Brett calls Ewart to pass on the news.

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-The heir I'm going to see now, this is her sister?

-That's right.

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-And she dies in Kent as Raeburn.

-Right.

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When you get there, you'll be able to tell her that we have established that her sister Joan is dead.

0:32:470:32:55

Right.

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Ewart now has the unenviable task of passing this sad news on to Kathleen.

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Meanwhile in south London, Dave's finished a meeting with Christopher.

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-Any questions, just give us a bell.

-Will do.

-Thank you. Bye bye.

0:33:070:33:12

Right, well, I've just finished an interview with Christopher Moon.

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It was a good interview, actually.

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'He confirmed a lot of the information that we'd already got.'

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Didn't have any new information for me, but we're pretty much up to date on the tree.

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And he's agreed to sign an agreement with us. So it was a successful day.

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140 miles away in Nottinghamshire, Ewart arrives at Kathleen's home

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-and his first task is to pass on his news.

-Before I start interviewing you,

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seeing as we are talking about your brother and it is going to go on to your sister,

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-I know you wanted to find out what's happened to your sister.

-Yes.

0:33:540:34:00

I've just been told that she has passed away.

0:34:000:34:05

-Oh, really?

-Yeah. 2004.

-Right.

-OK?

-Yes.

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We're not too sure at the moment if she had any children, but she got married when she was about 21.

0:34:100:34:17

I think she possibly did remarry as she died under a different name.

0:34:170:34:22

-Right.

-But we're not too sure about children. That's what we're looking into. OK?

-Right.

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Before discussing the inheritance, Ewart puts in a quick call to the office

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to double check if there isn't any more information he can pass on.

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While he has been travelling to visit her, the office has been working hard to find out

0:34:400:34:46

if Joan had any children, as they would also have a claim.

0:34:460:34:50

They've found out she had a son

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This is not the only interesting information about Joan that the team are eager for Ewart to pass on.

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Yes, I will, I will.

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Em, Mrs Shepperton,

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we have now established that your sister did indeed have a son.

0:35:080:35:12

-Yeah. One son just...?

-One son, yeah.

-Right.

-Yes.

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-From her second marriage.

-Oh, right.

-To a Mr Raeburn.

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Raeburn.

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And it looks like she was actually a Lady when she died.

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Kathleen's sister rejected her family after she married Edward Raeburn,

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the 3rd Baronet of Helensburgh. Kathleen had no idea that Joan had married nobility

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or had had children, so the news that she has a nephew comes out of the blue.

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It's made me feel a lot better. I don't feel so lonely and so alone in the world,

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as if there's just me and no one else about,

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no one I can maybe contact if they ever want to contact me.

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It's a very nice surprise.

0:36:020:36:05

Very.

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Unfortunately, Kathleen never met her cousin Peter,

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but his legacy means not only that she is in line for a windfall,

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but maybe she will now get a chance to meet a nephew she never knew existed.

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It will be like having someone of my own, which I've never had,

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except for my son and my daughter-in-law.

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Oh, it would be magical.

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It's been a busy couple of days, especially for the travelling heir hunters out on the road.

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Their investigations and detective work have been instrumental in solving this case.

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'You know,'

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it's quite pleasing to know that we've actually now put...

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..her in touch with her nephew, her sister's child,

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who she'd never known existed. It's fabulous.

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Fraser and Fraser have been referred the case of John Ashby

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by a neighbour who was worried about the derelict house he lived in.

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It's been terrible for a long time,

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but it's getting progressively worse in this bad state.

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One of these days, the whole lot will come down.

0:37:310:37:35

The value of the estate is estimated to be a staggering £500,000

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and comprises not one, but two properties in Birmingham.

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It was really a big estate and therefore important for us to trace any of the blood heirs.

0:37:450:37:51

Research director Gareth Langford has been leading the team who built up the family tree.

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His mother's maiden name, Badham, that's a brilliant surname. We were quite excited about that.

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Ashby isn't the best of names, but Badham, that's an amazing name to look up.

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A good name can make the difference between solving a case in two years or two hours.

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Gareth had hit the jackpot.

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When you have a good surname, it makes things a lot easier. We're looking at a lot less records.

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If you had the surname Smith, there's a lot of records.

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Ashby is quite a good surname. Badham is exceptionally good.

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The marriage was in Islington, which was completely out of area,

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but it was the only Ashby-Badham marriage, so we felt sure that was the correct one.

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John was the son of Nora Badham and Edgar Ashby.

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The research team already knew that John had a brother, Hugh.

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However, he died without having children, so the next port of call was to find uncles or aunts.

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With a name like Badham to work with, it wasn't long before Gareth found just what he was looking for.

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The next step was to look for the census of the mother. We quickly found that.

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She was living with her parents and two siblings. On the 1901 census, they were called Richard and Jack.

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Because the surname was so good, Badham,

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we weren't confused by the names on the census, so that gave us something to work with.

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We had a good name. I was quite confident we would get an heir.

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It was just a question of doing the research.

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The office discovered that the Badham children spread across the world in later life,

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with Jack eventually passing away in the Bahamas a bachelor.

0:39:460:39:50

Richard married Doris Courtney in Lewisham before settling in Brighton to have two children,

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but despite their adventurous lives, it was never a problem to track them down.

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With regard to the research, it was relatively straightforward, even though they moved around.

0:40:010:40:07

We didn't miss anything. There was no problem with research.

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So it was quite satisfying. A dream case. Perfect case, really.

0:40:110:40:17

One of John's cousins was Trevor Badham. However, he had already passed away.

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So Gareth's research led to his two children, Katy and her brother.

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They are John's cousins, once removed, and will both inherit a share of John's estate.

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I was surprised to get a call from Fraser and Fraser. It's not the sort of thing you expect,

0:40:340:40:40

but I was more surprised to find out it was John that hadn't left a valid will, as he was an organised chap.

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Katy had met John at many family gatherings, although it was over 10 years since she had seen him last.

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I remember John from my youth. He used to come and visit my parents once or twice a year

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with his brother, Hugh. They always were wearing a suit and tie and were always a little bit serious.

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And they used to come and play bridge with my parents. I remember the two brothers being very, very close.

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I never saw one without the other and always think of them as a pair.

0:41:140:41:19

Over the years, Katy lost touch with both of the brothers.

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After hearing that John had passed away, she also learned that Hugh had died two years before him.

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All of a sudden, it made sense that John did not have a valid will.

0:41:310:41:36

I think after John's brother Hugh died, a part of John probably died as well. They were devoted.

0:41:360:41:42

So I suppose it doesn't really surprise me that for the last two years of his life, he was a lost soul

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and didn't think about that.

0:41:490:41:52

The puzzle of John Ashby's estate has been solved,

0:41:520:41:56

as the heir hunters have successfully tracked down seven beneficiaries in total.

0:41:560:42:02

We're absolutely delighted that we've traced some blood heirs to what is a very large estate.

0:42:020:42:08

It's good news all round, I think.

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Now the case is settled, the heirs can attend to the property

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and John's old neighbours might finally be able to return to a peaceful life.

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I'm more than pleased that they've found relatives. At one time I thought they'd never find anybody

0:42:220:42:28

and it would go on for years, but happily it's all sorted and I'm more than pleased.

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At last we'll be able to get something like normality back and a nice house next door.

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If you would like advice about building your family tree or making a will,

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go to bbc.co.uk.

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