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Every year, thousands of people die without leaving a will. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
If no relatives come forward, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
their estate will go to the government. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Keeping this money in the family is a job for the heir hunters. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
On today's programme, lightning really does strike twice | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
as the heir hunters uncover an amazing coincidence. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
She's a double beneficiary inside twelve months. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
It's a little strange! | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
And the search for heirs to a Polish soldier's estate crosses every border... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Having luck on your side is always important in cracking a case. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
That's why I looked into Spain. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
..as they uncover the incredible story of his unbelievable suffering | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
and personal bravery. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
We in Britain have to be grateful we didn't have to live through it. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:11 | |
Could thousands of pounds be heading your way? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
In the UK, two-thirds of people don't have a will. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
When they die, the law states that unless the authorities can find an obvious heir, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
their money goes to the government. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Last year, the Treasury pocketed a staggering £18 million in unclaimed estates. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:36 | |
That's where the heir hunters step in. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
There are over 30 companies who make it their business to trace the heirs to this money | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
and help them claim it back. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Fraser and Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in the world. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
It's owned by Andrew, Charles and Neil Fraser. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs. | 0:01:55 | 0:02:00 | |
Over the last ten years, they've enabled over 50,000 heirs | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
to claim over £100 million. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
Thursday is the most important day of the week at Fraser & Fraser's central London office | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
because that's when the Treasury releases its weekly list of unclaimed estates. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
Have you got addresses there of neighbours, Jo? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
The team's first job is to work out which ones are going to be worth the most. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
That's gonna be... That first one in '25. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
This morning, nothing's looking very promising. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
We're looking at the case of Douglas Walter Greatrex at the moment. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
I've got a query about whether it's got any value on it. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
The heir hunters have discovered that the deceased owned a property. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
This usually means the estate would be quite substantial. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
But there is something unusual about this case. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
He doesn't own the lease of the property. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
But the freehold of the property is in the deceased's name. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Freeholds aren't worth a huge amount of money. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
It is a property case, but it may be worth a couple of thousand pounds, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
not a couple of hundred thousand pounds, as we'd hoped. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
The company has a lot of manpower and resources and can afford to take a chance on smaller-looking cases. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
So Neil decides to go with it and puts case manager David Pacifico in charge of the investigation. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
We're gonna be working this Greatrex case. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
It looks like this case will be centred in Birmingham, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
so David calls Midland-based senior researcher Paul Matthews to get him up to speed. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
'We're not 100% certain...' | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
Sorry, hang on a second. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-We need the enquiry. -Yeah, can you do the enquiry? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
-Ask him for the death. -And we need the death of the deceased. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
OK. Cheers. Bye. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
Thanks, Paul. Bye. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
Like all the company's travelling researchers, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
Paul is poised to follow any lead he's given | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and make sure that he beats the competition and reaches the heirs first. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
Paul's off to Birmingham register office. He's faxed through a request for Douglas's death certificate | 0:04:20 | 0:04:26 | |
and his parents' marriage certificate. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
But now he needs to pick them up. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
They contain the information the team need | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
to start building up his family tree and tracing heirs. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
Douglas Greatrex lived his whole life in Birmingham. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
He was born and grew up in the traditional working class area of Newton Street, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
in the heart of the city. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
Several photos survive from his childhood, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
particularly his time in the boy scouts. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
According to his close friend Angela Common, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
Douglas grew up to be a proper gent of the old school. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
He was smiley, he was friendly and he was the perfect gentleman. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
You know, old-fashioned. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
He'd open the door and pay for your tea. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
Angela met Douglas when she went to work for him in his tool manufacturing business. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
She then left to have a family, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
but years later, they bumped into each other and struck up a close friendship. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
By now, Angela was on her own with the children and Douglas became an important part of their lives. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
We sort of adopted him | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
and he would sort of tweak in to what the kids would like | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
and spoil them a bit. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
And I'd say, "Doug, they think they can have what they want, and they can't!" | 0:05:49 | 0:05:55 | |
Just little things like an ice cream or a book. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
I don't know how many dictionaries he bought for the kids. He loved his books. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
Although he ran a successful business, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
Douglas always felt unsatisfied in his job. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
I think he resented it cos he wasn't content doing it. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:17 | |
It was a means of making money. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
He'd talk to the kids and encourage them to do well at school. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
"You don't want to end up in a factory like me." | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Although he regretted not receiving a better education, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
Douglas was able to escape from the daily grind into a world of books. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
He'd go home, behind his front door, he'd be in his office. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Wall-to-wall books and he'd be tapping away there. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:47 | |
He'd come up with stories. He was very into his thrillers. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
With the writing, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
that was his world. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
"Go and get yourself a lady friend, or something!" | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
He'd go, "Oh, no, I don't need that. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
"My books and my computer, that'll do for me." | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
Douglas wrote one story especially for Angela's children, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
naming one of the characters Amelia, after her daughter. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
He got two copies bound | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
and gave one to the adopted family who inspired him. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
I think the kids thought a lot of Doug because Doug went out of his way for them. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:28 | |
It's like he became that family member. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I think he was relishing the thought that he was our family. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:37 | |
You know, a father, grandfather figure. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
In heir hunting, so much rests on the surnames involved. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
A rare surname like Greatrex should be easy to research | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
because it stands out in the records. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
But there are other factors to consider. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Although there may only be 1,000 people with that surname in the country, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
they all live within a 20- or 30-mile radius of each other. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
That way, it makes it harder to identify the individuals | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
because all the John Greatrexes live in Birmingham, for instance. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
Sure enough, the team immediately run into a problem. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
They know that Douglas's mother's name was Harvey. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
Print that one out. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
And researcher Jo has found two marriages between a Greatrex and a Harvey in Birmingham. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
One in 1916, and one ten years later in 1926. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
Case manager David Pacifico reckons he knows which one is right. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
It's likely to be the 1926 rather than 1916 | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
because the deceased was born in '34. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
So I should hopefully hear something soon from Paul Matthews. | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
But Paul can't help them cos he's stuck in a traffic jam on the way to the register office. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:08 | |
So until he can get his hands on the actual marriage certificate, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
the team need to research both possibilities. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
David, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
the first marriage, some of it's online. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Debbie has come across the 1916 marriage on a genealogy website, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
most likely posted by some family member. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
The first marriage, Doris to George A. Greatrex. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
It's his family history, and some pictures as well. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
I'll know soon which is the right marriage. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
But Paul's still a long way from his destination. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Luckily, he's very well known to the guys in the register office | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
so he pulls over to see if he can get the answers he needs over the phone. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
-'Hello?' -Hi, John, I've cut about 20 people up and got off the Bristol Road. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
-'Are we smiling?' -Yes, we are. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
'Presumably, you only want the marriage | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
-'if the groom is called George Andrew, yes?' -Yes. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
'Right. Discard one of them.' | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
In one call, Paul gets the key facts that he needs to get this case moving. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
He phones through the all-important information to the office. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
Right, the marriage. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
-Yep. -3 December, 1916. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
It looks like David's hunch that Douglas's parents were married in 1926 was wrong. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:35 | |
-They're all brothers and sisters. Work up those marriages. -We've got a nephew. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
But the good news is that the correct marriage is the one with the online family tree. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
So the team already have all the information they need to put it together. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
Douglas's parents were George Andrew Greatrex and Doris Harvey. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
They had seven children, two of whom had died young. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
And Douglas was the youngest in the family by a gap of nine years. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Doris born in 1925, then a nine-year gap | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
and Douglas just comes out at the end of that. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
So... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:18 | |
Nine years in-between it, | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
which may explain why the family have split up and separated. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
-Somebody's given me John L's neighbours. -I gave you John L's neighbours. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
The team have made great progress on this case and it's still only 8.30 in the morning. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
It's coming up very quickly. It's difficult to keep up. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
-I'd like to get someone to Birmingham. -Ewart's doing an enquiry in Windsor. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
-Once he's done his enquiry in Windsor, send him up. -OK. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
David Pacifico calls senior researcher Ewart Lindsay. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
-'Hello, Ewart.' -Hi, Dave. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
He's currently in Maidenhead in Berkshire. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
'I've arranged an appointment at one o'clock in Tamworth. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
'I thought I'd leave that one with you.' | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
-Cheers, Dave. -'Bye.' | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
With two senior researchers in the area, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
ready to sign up heirs as soon as the office can identify them, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
the team are well placed to tie up this investigation in record time. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
But still to come: an amazing coincidence takes this heir hunt into unchartered territory. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:35 | |
This bit of tree automatically joins on to here. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
And one heir gets a very unexpected phone call. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
You won't believe this, but we believe you're a beneficiary on another estate we're looking in to. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:48 | |
Although some heir hunts unravel quickly, and are concentrated in one specific area, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:07 | |
others remain unsolved for years | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
and take in many different countries and a broad sweep of history. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
Tadeusz Gaweda was just such a case. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
He died in 1991 | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
in this house in Forest Hill in south London, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
leaving an estate worth £37,000. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
But no will. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
His case had remained unsolved for many years, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
when Hector Birchwood from heir hunting firm Celtic Research took it on. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
Hector remembers coming across his unusual name on the Treasury's weekly list of unclaimed estates. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
When I immediately saw the name Gaweda, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
my assumption at that point was that it was Polish. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
Of course, that could mean Ukrainian Polish, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
that could mean Belarusian Polish, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
there are a number of Polish communities in central Europe, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
and in places like Italy or France. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
So really at that point it really didn't tell me a lot. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Hector started investigations by looking for Tadeusz's death certificate. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Well, the death certificate is usually of some help. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
But the information you get is only as good as the informant. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
So they may not know the deceased or may not know as much as they think they know. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:29 | |
In Tadeusz's case, although the date of death in 1991 was correct, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
there was obviously a mistake with the birth, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
which was also shown as being in 1991. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
According to the certificate, he was born in Poland. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
But was that a mistake as well? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
As a matter of protocol, we always look for the birth in this country. We couldn't find one. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
Without a birth certificate or any reliable information, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Hector had nothing to go on. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
He knew that trying to find this information from public records in Poland | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
might prove challenging. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:07 | |
For the moment, he was stumped. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Hector then had an inspired thought. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
He decided to cross-reference Tadeusz's death | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
by going back to the death index record | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
held in the general register office. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Sure enough, the record revealed that Tadeusz had been born in 1929. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
From there, Hector found he had arrived in England in 1946 | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
with the Polish Resettlement Corps. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
When the Second World War ended, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
many Polish soldiers, who had fought alongside the British against the Nazis | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
chose not to return to what was now Communist Poland. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:57 | |
Instead, they came to live in the UK. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
When the soldiers first arrived, they were housed in temporary camps | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
until they were able to start a new life in this country. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Many of the people who came here during World War II or just after, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
from the Ukraine, from Poland, from any other places, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
often had to reinvent themselves and establish themselves here. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
They often could not go back. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
So they got married and they had children here, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
possibly even if they had a wife back home. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
That does happen. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
So we were mindful of the possibility that he may have been previously married. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
But we did look for a marriage for him here. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
That's when we came across a marriage. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
That was really the first break in the case. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Hector discovered that Tadeusz married Carmen Garrido | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
in Willesden, London, in 1957. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Any time we do find a marriage, it does bring up some hope, a few glimmers of hope. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
There's a possibility there might be children. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
There's a possibility that we may be able to find the spouse's family | 0:16:57 | 0:17:03 | |
who may be able to tell us something about the deceased's family. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
Maybe give us names and addresses of his family. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
There are always glimmers of hope whenever we find a marriage | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
but we didn't know exactly where that would lead. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
With two unusual surnames like Gaweda and Garrido, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
it wasn't long before Hector came across birth records for some children, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
born in Alcester in Warwickshire. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Tadeusz and Carmen had three children. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
A son, Roberto, and two daughters, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
all of whom would be heirs to their father's £37,000 estate. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
Once we found the births, it really threw open the case. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
We could see that the deceased had biological children, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
they may have been adopted, they may have changed their names, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:53 | |
but at least it offered an avenue | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
by which we could crack this case | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
and find some rightful heirs for his estate. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
But then the trail ran cold. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
There was no further trace of Tadeusz's children in this country. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
If they had left England when they were very young, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
they could have been anywhere by now. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
But he took a guess that someone with a surname like Garrido | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
their mother may have taken them to Spain. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
Having a bit of luck on your side is always important in cracking a case. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:28 | |
That's really why I looked into Spain. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
It just seemed like it fitted better than other places. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
I wasn't sure, but it looked better than the other options. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Another piece of luck for Hector was that he speaks fluent Spanish | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
so he was ideally placed to conduct an investigation there. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
One of the things we did find just by trawling through the internet | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
was that the family of Gaweda/Garrido is only centred in one place in Spain. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
In Valencia. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
The case was cracked, as far as I was concerned. I just needed to find people and talk to them. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
Hector found a recent record for Tadeusz's son, Roberto, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
online, along with some contact details. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
So he decided to make a first attempt to contact him. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
Still to come: | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Initially our contact with Roberto wasn't exactly very successful. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
Hector's heir hunt runs into a spot of bother. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
-TRANSLATION: -I thought it was a con. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
And in the search for Douglas Greatrex's heirs, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
one beneficiary gets a lot more than she bargained for. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
-It might pay for a holiday. -Might get a bit further than Blackpool! | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
For every case that is solved, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
there are still thousands that remain a mystery. Currently, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
over 3,000 names drawn from across the country | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
are on the Treasury's unsolved case list. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
the rightful heirs are out there somewhere. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
Could you be the missing link? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
Could you be in line for a payout? | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Mustafa Kamal died in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
on 8 November 2005. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Was he a friend or neighbour of yours? | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
Could you even be related to him | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
and entitled to his estate? | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
Bertha Helen Hutson passed away on 16 October 1998 | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
in Sleaford, Lincolnshire. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
If no relatives come forward, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
her money will go to the government. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
But should it be headed your way? | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
If the names Mustafa Kamal or Bertha Helen Hutson mean anything to you, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
you could have a fortune coming your way. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
Heir hunter Hector Birchwood | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
was searching for heirs to Tadeusz Gaweda's £37,000 estate. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
He gambled that Tadeusz's children had returned to Spain with their mother, Carmen, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
and his gamble paid off. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
He found a phone number for Tadeusz's son, Roberto, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
who was out when he called. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
So he left a message telling him that he could be a beneficiary of an estate. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
SPEAKS SPANISH | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
IN SPANISH | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
My first impression was that it was a con. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
One of those internet scams | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
where they contact you and tell you you've inherited money. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
As Hector had guessed, Roberto's parents' marriage had broken down. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
His mother had taken the children back to live with her parents in Spain. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
He called the house one time when we were in Madrid. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
But my mother was always so scared that he would come and take us away. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
Legally, she had been in the wrong. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
At that time, you needed a father's permission if children left the country without him. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:47 | |
Tadeusz never made another attempt to contact his children. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
Roberto's mother never spoke of him. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
So Roberto's only knowledge of his father | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
were a few photos and the stories told to him by his grandfather. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
My grandfather came to England once with my grandmother when we were very little. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
He met my father, and it seems they had a lot in common. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
He always said he was a very intelligent man | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
and a very hard worker. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
I can't help thinking I would have loved to have had the chance to talk to him. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
But after talking to Hector, Roberto decided to come over to England | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
to find out what he could about the father he never knew. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
For me, this is the final conclusion of my father's life. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
The great thing is that now I have the chance to finish the story. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
Being able to fill in the gaps of his life that I never knew | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
will help me to understand him better. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
With the case solved, Hector arranged to meet Roberto, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
to give him the information and paperwork provided by the Treasury. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
This included the immigration application | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
that was written by the Home Office when Tadeusz arrived in Britain in 1946. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
GREET IN SPANISH | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
This brief paragraph gave a fascinating insight | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
into his early life during one of the darkest periods of European history. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
IN SPANISH | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
The document revealed that his father was actually born in France in 1929. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
The family only moved to eastern Poland in 1933. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:58 | |
But any hopes of a peaceful family life were destroyed | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
when, in 1939, Hitler's army invaded Poland | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
and Tadeusz was thrown into the chaos of the Second World War. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
Poland was invaded by the Nazis on Friday 1st September 1939. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:27 | |
A week or so before, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
the Nazis and Russians had signed a non-aggression pact | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
which gave Hitler the green light to invade Poland. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Also, secret clauses were in place | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
that gave Russia the green light to invade eastern Poland | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
which it did on 17 September 1939. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Ten-year-old Tadeusz was captured by the Russians | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
and deported along with thousands of other Poles to a Russian labour camp. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Conditions in all Russian labour camps were extremely harsh, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
not only for those Poles perceived as the class enemies of Russia, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
but also the people that had been swept up under Stalin's purges | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
and put into the Gulags. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
Very poor food, long hours of hard, and sometimes senseless labour as well. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
Then, in 1942, Hitler invaded Russia. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Tadeusz was dragged back to Germany to work as slave labour for the Nazi war machine. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:36 | |
The German war economy was so dependent on foreign labour. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
To give you an example, in 1944, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
there were over seven million foreigners working in Germany. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
The vast majority were slave labourers | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
that the Nazis had taken in manhunts | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
throughout eastern occupied Europe. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Amazingly, Tadeusz, still only in his early teens, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
and risking execution if he'd been caught, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
managed to escape from Germany. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
Somehow, he crossed the border to Italy and hooked up with fellow Poles. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
His army records show he joined the Polish Resettlement Corps | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
in 1946 to help with the clean-up. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Tadeusz's incredible journey came to an end not long after | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
when he arrived in England to start a new life after the chaos of the war years. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
I think that Tadeusz's story is not an untypical one | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
for people that lived in central Europe. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
We in Britain have to be very grateful we didn't have to live through it. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
I'm afraid it is so typical of so many hundreds of thousands of people | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
especially younger people, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
who were really buffeted between the two sides | 0:27:54 | 0:27:59 | |
of National Socialism - Nazism - | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
and Soviet Communism. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
Having learned about his father's astonishing history from Hector, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:11 | |
Roberto then set off on the final stage of his journey | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
to Kington Camp in Herefordshire. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
According to the records, | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
this is where Tadeusz was housed along with many other Polish soldiers | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
when they first arrived in this country. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Local historian Kenneth Reeves showed him round the camp. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
These are the sort of huts that your father would have been billeted in. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:38 | |
They were originally built for the American army as a hospital. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:44 | |
They were designed to last for 25 years. That was in 1943. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
They've now been here something like 66 years | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
and they're rather beginning to show their age | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
and most of them are falling down. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
Compared to what Tadeusz would have experienced in Germany and Russia, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
this camp would have been like a five-star hotel. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
But for Roberto, it was a very moving experience. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
-TRANSLATION: -It makes me feel sad, very sad, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
how my father could have survived before, during and after the war. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
I had no idea before all this how he could have endured such a terrible life. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
So, this is it. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
The end of a story that I didn't get to hear about first hand. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
But at least now I can say that I know about my father's life | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
and it's helped me to understand him. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
Tadeusz's life, and that of millions of Europeans | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
caught between the Nazi and communist regimes during the war | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
was one of unimaginable suffering and hardship. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Sadly, Tadeusz never got to see his children grow up. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
But he did manage to leave them a legacy of £37,000 | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
which was ultimately shared between the three of them. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
For Hector, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
it was a satisfying end to a case that could have remained unsolved | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
if he hadn't retrieved it from that bottom drawer. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
I'm really pleased that the case eventually came to a successful fruition. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
First of all because I could justify the amount of time I spent on this case. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:38 | |
Second of all, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
because my hunch was right in going to Spain. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
More than that, really, is that I was very happy | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
to know that some of these cases that are unsolved | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
can still be solved, can still be cracked, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
if you have enough determination | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
or at least if you have the right kind of luck, like I did! | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Fraser and Fraser have been looking into the case of Douglas Greatrex | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
who died aged 75 in Birmingham. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
Douglas was the youngest of his siblings by several years | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
and had fallen out of touch with his extended family. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
When he died, he owned a property | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
but he didn't own the leasehold, which will affect the value of his estate. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
It is a property case, but it may be worth a couple of thousand, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
not a couple of hundred thousand pounds as we'd hoped for. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
The team got off to a great start with their investigation. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
It wasn't long before they'd managed to trace 16 of Douglas's heirs. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
-Someone gave me John L's neighbours. -I gave you those. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
There's quite a few siblings of the deceased. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
This is near kin. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:58 | |
For the heir hunters, if they can't find any children of the deceased, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
the next best result is to find near kin, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
meaning siblings or nieces and nephews. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
-Hi, Paul. -Hi, Dave. -We've got it up to date with near kin on it. -Right. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
We've got addresses of a niece and a couple of nephews in Birmingham. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:23 | |
OK. Catch you later. Cheers. Bye. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
Paul's just round the corner from the first address he's been given. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
There's no-one in, so he tries the neighbours. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Sorry, I'm trying to get hold of your neighbour, Trevor. Does he work in the day? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
Paul calls David Pacifico in the office to give him the bad news. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
It's always the way. We get the early breakthroughs | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
but people are at work, aren't they? | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
We've got more addresses for Trevor's siblings. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
-Yeah? -We've got a Roy living at Yardley. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
Okey-cokey, Dave. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
David's finally managed to make an appointment with one of Douglas's heirs. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:11 | |
His nephew, Roy Stevens, is the eldest son of Douglas's sister Doris | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
and her husband Sydney. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Mr Stevens? Paul Matthews, Fraser and Fraser, a probate research company. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
We deal with the estates of people who pass away without making wills. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
We think you're entitled to an estate we're dealing with. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
-Got a few minutes? -OK. -Thank you very much. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
Paul needs to check that Roy is actually Douglas's nephew. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
He gets straight down to business. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
Right, your mum, Doris. Did she have brothers and sisters? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
-Yeah. Dougie. -OK. -It's not him gone, is it? | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
-Uh, yeah. -Dougie? I had a horrible feeling it was Dougie. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
He passed away. He hasn't... | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
Roy remembers Douglas well, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
so his death comes as a shock. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
-Carry on. -Take your time. -I'm all right. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
Dougie, yeah. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
What do you know about Dougie? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
We actually seen a lot of Dougie up until Mum went. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
And then, all of a sudden, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
we sort of lost sight of him and things. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
-Just disappeared? How long ago? Years? -A long time ago. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
I guess that at the end of the day, if Douglas saved a few bob, fair play to him. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
Cos we haven't helped! | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
He's obviously saved it for you. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
If you get a few bob, what will you do with it? | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
-I don't know. Have a drink. -Have a drink. OK, that's nice. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:44 | |
Thanks for your time. I'll speak to you later on. Cheers. Bye! | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
By the end of their meeting, Roy's happy for Frasers to assist him in his claim. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
And Paul's delighted to have signed up his first heir. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
But just then, something rather extraordinary happens. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
Back in the office, Neil has just made a connection | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
that takes everyone by surprise. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
What we've just found out | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
is that this is a tree which I've just printed off | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
from a case run by Marcus at the beginning of this year. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
Eight months ago, the heir hunters dealt with the case of a Peter William Greatrex, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
also from Birmingham, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
who, it turns out, was Douglas Greatrex's nephew. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Peter William, his father was William Arthur Greatrex. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
William Arthur Greatrex is on this tree over here... | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
..sat here as a brother of the deceased. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
So this bit of tree automatically joins onto here. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
If Peter Greatrex had lived, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
he would have inherited some of his Uncle Douglas's estate. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
But as it is, his share will pass to his daughter Samantha, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
who, eight months ago, discovered that she was to inherit from her father's £6,000 estate. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:10 | |
NEIL: She is now a beneficiary on this estate as well. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
So she's a double beneficiary inside 12 months. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Um, it's a little strange. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Ten months ago, when Samantha was contacted during the last series of Heir Hunters, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
she learned that her father had died. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
The news was a great shock to her, as her parents had split up when she was a baby | 0:36:33 | 0:36:38 | |
and that was the last she'd seen of him. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
It was strange that it was a loss. I felt a loss. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
Although you've lost somebody who's a part of you | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
you know nothing about them | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
and that's quite difficult. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
I always thought that I'd get the chance to at least say goodbye. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
That sounds a bit strange. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Say goodbye to somebody that you don't know. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
Less than a year on, and the heir hunters have another reason to get in touch with Samantha. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:18 | |
I'm gonna phone her up now. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
It's fallen to case manager David Pacifico | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
to break the news to her that she's lost another relative. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
'Hello. Miss Greatrex?' | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
It's Fraser and Fraser. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
Hello, there. You won't believe this, but we believe you would be a beneficiary on another estate. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:46 | |
Well, this one is going back through your grandfather's side of the family. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Yes, unbelievable. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
Samantha is also based in Birmingham, so David sends Paul straight round to see her. | 0:37:55 | 0:38:01 | |
-Hi, Samantha. Paul Matthews, Fraser and Fraser. -Nice to meet you. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
-Come in. -Cheers. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
Paul goes back over Samantha's family tree | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
to show her how she's related to her deceased great-uncle Douglas. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
-Do you know anything about your grandparents at all? -No, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:24 | |
only what I got told by Frasers, their names. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
For Samantha, it's the second time in less than a year | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
that she's been confronted with information about relations that she never knew she had. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:36 | |
It's sad the circumstances it comes about. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
But this one's a nice one compared to the last one. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
It's very distant. You never knew the person. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
His estate is either gonna go to people like yourself, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
or to the government. It's better going to you. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
-You can add it to the other one. -At least I can get somewhere with it. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:55 | |
-It might pay for a holiday. -I might get a bit further than Blackpool! | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
Samantha's very happy to let Frasers assist her on making her second inheritance claim. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
So she signs up. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
You've got one of these already. You can collect them! | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
You're totally unique! | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
Twice in ten months. Fantastic. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
Paul's got a busy afternoon ahead of him. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
He heads off to his next appointment. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
All the best. Hope you get a nice sum of money. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:23 | |
-Thank you very much. -Cheers. Bye! -Bye. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
In all, the team have uncovered 16 heirs to Douglas Greatrex's estate, | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
who all need to be visited and signed up. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
Luckily, senior researcher Ewart Lindsay has arrived to help | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
and has gone straight to the house of one of Douglas's nieces. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
Hello, Mrs Margetts. Ewart Lindsay from Fraser and Fraser. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
-OK. Do you want to come in? -Thank you. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Yvonne is the daughter of another of Douglas's brothers, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
Harry Greatrex. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
She, along with her four surviving brothers and sisters, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
all stand to inherit from their uncle's estate. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
-Do you have an idea who the deceased is? -Yes, Dougie. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
That's correct. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
Unlike Samantha, Yvonne did know her Uncle Dougie, although she hadn't seen him in a long while. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
-Do you know if he had his own house? -I don't know. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
The last time I seen him, he was living with my nan, his mother. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
In the end, Frasers signed up all 16 of Douglas's heirs. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
His estate turned out to be worth £13,000, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
which was split between them all. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
None of them got a life-changing sum of money, but all got a reminder of the importance of family | 0:40:40 | 0:40:45 | |
and a dear and long-lost uncle. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
I saw him probably when I was 15, so we're going back 30 years! | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
I very rarely saw him, actually. He used to be quite a recluse. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
He kept himself to himself. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
The first thought that crossed my mind was, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
"Who buried him?" Was it family? Was it friends? | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
Someone, you know, who knew him. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
Not nobody who didn't know him. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Although Douglas wasn't a very outgoing person, | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
he did have a few close friends who were there for him at the end | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
and gave him a proper send-off. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
The funeral itself was taken by his local vicar, the Rev Greg Mensing. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:33 | |
Occasionally, there are funerals which I take like Doug's, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
where there are very few people, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
but they were all there | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
because they loved him | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
and because they wanted to pay their last respects | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
to a man that they cared for. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
Of those who did attend the funeral, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
he will be missed most by his dear friend, Angela, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
and her children, who were his surrogate family. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
For weeks after he'd gone, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
the phone would go, and I'd often wish, "Is that Doug?" | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
It really took a while to accept | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
that's not him on the end of the phone any more. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Yeah. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
You know, that phone call out of the blue, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
"Hi, how are you doing?" We don't get that every day, do we? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:26 | |
I think that was nice. And he always made you smile. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:31 | |
He wasn't happy unless he put a smile on your face. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
If you would like advice about building your family tree | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
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