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Every year, thousands of people die without leaving a will.

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If no relatives come forward,

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their estate will go to the government.

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Keeping this money in the family is a job for the heir hunters.

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On today's programme, lightning really does strike twice

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as the heir hunters uncover an amazing coincidence.

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She's a double beneficiary inside twelve months.

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It's a little strange!

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And the search for heirs to a Polish soldier's estate crosses every border...

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Having luck on your side is always important in cracking a case.

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That's why I looked into Spain.

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..as they uncover the incredible story of his unbelievable suffering

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and personal bravery.

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We in Britain have to be grateful we didn't have to live through it.

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Plus how you may be entitled to inherit some of the unclaimed estates held by the Treasury.

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Could thousands of pounds be heading your way?

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In the UK, two-thirds of people don't have a will.

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When they die, the law states that unless the authorities can find an obvious heir,

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their money goes to the government.

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Last year, the Treasury pocketed a staggering £18 million in unclaimed estates.

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That's where the heir hunters step in.

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There are over 30 companies who make it their business to trace the heirs to this money

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and help them claim it back.

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Fraser and Fraser is one of the oldest firms of heir hunters in the world.

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It's owned by Andrew, Charles and Neil Fraser.

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They make their commission by solving cases and signing up heirs.

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Over the last ten years, they've enabled over 50,000 heirs

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to claim over £100 million.

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Thursday is the most important day of the week at Fraser & Fraser's central London office

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because that's when the Treasury releases its weekly list of unclaimed estates.

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Have you got addresses there of neighbours, Jo?

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The team's first job is to work out which ones are going to be worth the most.

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That's gonna be... That first one in '25.

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This morning, nothing's looking very promising.

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We're looking at the case of Douglas Walter Greatrex at the moment.

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I've got a query about whether it's got any value on it.

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The heir hunters have discovered that the deceased owned a property.

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This usually means the estate would be quite substantial.

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But there is something unusual about this case.

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He doesn't own the lease of the property.

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But the freehold of the property is in the deceased's name.

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Freeholds aren't worth a huge amount of money.

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It is a property case, but it may be worth a couple of thousand pounds,

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not a couple of hundred thousand pounds, as we'd hoped.

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The company has a lot of manpower and resources and can afford to take a chance on smaller-looking cases.

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So Neil decides to go with it and puts case manager David Pacifico in charge of the investigation.

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We're gonna be working this Greatrex case.

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It looks like this case will be centred in Birmingham,

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so David calls Midland-based senior researcher Paul Matthews to get him up to speed.

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'We're not 100% certain...'

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Sorry, hang on a second.

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-We need the enquiry.

-Yeah, can you do the enquiry?

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-Ask him for the death.

-And we need the death of the deceased.

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OK. Cheers. Bye.

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Thanks, Paul. Bye.

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Like all the company's travelling researchers,

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Paul is poised to follow any lead he's given

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and make sure that he beats the competition and reaches the heirs first.

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Paul's off to Birmingham register office. He's faxed through a request for Douglas's death certificate

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and his parents' marriage certificate.

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But now he needs to pick them up.

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They contain the information the team need

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to start building up his family tree and tracing heirs.

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Douglas Greatrex lived his whole life in Birmingham.

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He was born and grew up in the traditional working class area of Newton Street,

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in the heart of the city.

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Several photos survive from his childhood,

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particularly his time in the boy scouts.

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According to his close friend Angela Common,

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Douglas grew up to be a proper gent of the old school.

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He was smiley, he was friendly and he was the perfect gentleman.

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You know, old-fashioned.

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He'd open the door and pay for your tea.

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Angela met Douglas when she went to work for him in his tool manufacturing business.

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She then left to have a family,

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but years later, they bumped into each other and struck up a close friendship.

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By now, Angela was on her own with the children and Douglas became an important part of their lives.

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We sort of adopted him

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and he would sort of tweak in to what the kids would like

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and spoil them a bit.

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And I'd say, "Doug, they think they can have what they want, and they can't!"

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Just little things like an ice cream or a book.

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I don't know how many dictionaries he bought for the kids. He loved his books.

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Although he ran a successful business,

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Douglas always felt unsatisfied in his job.

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I think he resented it cos he wasn't content doing it.

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It was a means of making money.

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He'd talk to the kids and encourage them to do well at school.

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"You don't want to end up in a factory like me."

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Although he regretted not receiving a better education,

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Douglas was able to escape from the daily grind into a world of books.

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He'd go home, behind his front door, he'd be in his office.

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Wall-to-wall books and he'd be tapping away there.

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He'd come up with stories. He was very into his thrillers.

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With the writing,

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that was his world.

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"Go and get yourself a lady friend, or something!"

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He'd go, "Oh, no, I don't need that.

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"My books and my computer, that'll do for me."

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Yeah.

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Douglas wrote one story especially for Angela's children,

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naming one of the characters Amelia, after her daughter.

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He got two copies bound

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and gave one to the adopted family who inspired him.

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I think the kids thought a lot of Doug because Doug went out of his way for them.

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It's like he became that family member.

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I think he was relishing the thought that he was our family.

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You know, a father, grandfather figure.

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In heir hunting, so much rests on the surnames involved.

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A rare surname like Greatrex should be easy to research

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because it stands out in the records.

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But there are other factors to consider.

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Although there may only be 1,000 people with that surname in the country,

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they all live within a 20- or 30-mile radius of each other.

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That way, it makes it harder to identify the individuals

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because all the John Greatrexes live in Birmingham, for instance.

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Sure enough, the team immediately run into a problem.

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They know that Douglas's mother's name was Harvey.

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Print that one out.

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And researcher Jo has found two marriages between a Greatrex and a Harvey in Birmingham.

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One in 1916, and one ten years later in 1926.

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Case manager David Pacifico reckons he knows which one is right.

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It's likely to be the 1926 rather than 1916

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because the deceased was born in '34.

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So I should hopefully hear something soon from Paul Matthews.

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But Paul can't help them cos he's stuck in a traffic jam on the way to the register office.

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So until he can get his hands on the actual marriage certificate,

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the team need to research both possibilities.

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David,

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the first marriage, some of it's online.

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Debbie has come across the 1916 marriage on a genealogy website,

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most likely posted by some family member.

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The first marriage, Doris to George A. Greatrex.

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It's his family history, and some pictures as well.

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I'll know soon which is the right marriage.

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But Paul's still a long way from his destination.

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Luckily, he's very well known to the guys in the register office

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so he pulls over to see if he can get the answers he needs over the phone.

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-'Hello?'

-Hi, John, I've cut about 20 people up and got off the Bristol Road.

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-'Are we smiling?'

-Yes, we are.

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'Presumably, you only want the marriage

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-'if the groom is called George Andrew, yes?'

-Yes.

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'Right. Discard one of them.'

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In one call, Paul gets the key facts that he needs to get this case moving.

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He phones through the all-important information to the office.

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Right, the marriage.

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-Yep.

-3 December, 1916.

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It looks like David's hunch that Douglas's parents were married in 1926 was wrong.

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-They're all brothers and sisters. Work up those marriages.

-We've got a nephew.

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But the good news is that the correct marriage is the one with the online family tree.

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So the team already have all the information they need to put it together.

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Douglas's parents were George Andrew Greatrex and Doris Harvey.

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They had seven children, two of whom had died young.

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And Douglas was the youngest in the family by a gap of nine years.

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Doris born in 1925, then a nine-year gap

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and Douglas just comes out at the end of that.

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So...

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Nine years in-between it,

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which may explain why the family have split up and separated.

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-Somebody's given me John L's neighbours.

-I gave you John L's neighbours.

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The team have made great progress on this case and it's still only 8.30 in the morning.

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It's coming up very quickly. It's difficult to keep up.

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-I'd like to get someone to Birmingham.

-Ewart's doing an enquiry in Windsor.

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-Once he's done his enquiry in Windsor, send him up.

-OK.

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David Pacifico calls senior researcher Ewart Lindsay.

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-'Hello, Ewart.'

-Hi, Dave.

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He's currently in Maidenhead in Berkshire.

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'I've arranged an appointment at one o'clock in Tamworth.

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'I thought I'd leave that one with you.'

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-Cheers, Dave.

-'Bye.'

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With two senior researchers in the area,

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ready to sign up heirs as soon as the office can identify them,

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the team are well placed to tie up this investigation in record time.

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But still to come: an amazing coincidence takes this heir hunt into unchartered territory.

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This bit of tree automatically joins on to here.

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And one heir gets a very unexpected phone call.

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You won't believe this, but we believe you're a beneficiary on another estate we're looking in to.

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Although some heir hunts unravel quickly, and are concentrated in one specific area,

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others remain unsolved for years

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and take in many different countries and a broad sweep of history.

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Tadeusz Gaweda was just such a case.

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He died in 1991

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in this house in Forest Hill in south London,

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leaving an estate worth £37,000.

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But no will.

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His case had remained unsolved for many years,

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when Hector Birchwood from heir hunting firm Celtic Research took it on.

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Hector remembers coming across his unusual name on the Treasury's weekly list of unclaimed estates.

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When I immediately saw the name Gaweda,

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my assumption at that point was that it was Polish.

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Of course, that could mean Ukrainian Polish,

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that could mean Belarusian Polish,

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there are a number of Polish communities in central Europe,

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and in places like Italy or France.

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So really at that point it really didn't tell me a lot.

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Hector started investigations by looking for Tadeusz's death certificate.

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Well, the death certificate is usually of some help.

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But the information you get is only as good as the informant.

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So they may not know the deceased or may not know as much as they think they know.

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In Tadeusz's case, although the date of death in 1991 was correct,

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there was obviously a mistake with the birth,

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which was also shown as being in 1991.

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According to the certificate, he was born in Poland.

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But was that a mistake as well?

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As a matter of protocol, we always look for the birth in this country. We couldn't find one.

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Without a birth certificate or any reliable information,

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Hector had nothing to go on.

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He knew that trying to find this information from public records in Poland

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might prove challenging.

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For the moment, he was stumped.

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Hector then had an inspired thought.

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He decided to cross-reference Tadeusz's death

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by going back to the death index record

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held in the general register office.

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Sure enough, the record revealed that Tadeusz had been born in 1929.

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From there, Hector found he had arrived in England in 1946

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with the Polish Resettlement Corps.

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When the Second World War ended,

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many Polish soldiers, who had fought alongside the British against the Nazis

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chose not to return to what was now Communist Poland.

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Instead, they came to live in the UK.

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When the soldiers first arrived, they were housed in temporary camps

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until they were able to start a new life in this country.

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Many of the people who came here during World War II or just after,

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from the Ukraine, from Poland, from any other places,

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often had to reinvent themselves and establish themselves here.

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They often could not go back.

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So they got married and they had children here,

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possibly even if they had a wife back home.

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That does happen.

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So we were mindful of the possibility that he may have been previously married.

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But we did look for a marriage for him here.

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That's when we came across a marriage.

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That was really the first break in the case.

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Hector discovered that Tadeusz married Carmen Garrido

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in Willesden, London, in 1957.

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Any time we do find a marriage, it does bring up some hope, a few glimmers of hope.

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There's a possibility there might be children.

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There's a possibility that we may be able to find the spouse's family

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who may be able to tell us something about the deceased's family.

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Maybe give us names and addresses of his family.

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There are always glimmers of hope whenever we find a marriage

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but we didn't know exactly where that would lead.

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With two unusual surnames like Gaweda and Garrido,

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it wasn't long before Hector came across birth records for some children,

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born in Alcester in Warwickshire.

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Tadeusz and Carmen had three children.

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A son, Roberto, and two daughters,

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all of whom would be heirs to their father's £37,000 estate.

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Once we found the births, it really threw open the case.

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We could see that the deceased had biological children,

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they may have been adopted, they may have changed their names,

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but at least it offered an avenue

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by which we could crack this case

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and find some rightful heirs for his estate.

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But then the trail ran cold.

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There was no further trace of Tadeusz's children in this country.

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If they had left England when they were very young,

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they could have been anywhere by now.

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But he took a guess that someone with a surname like Garrido

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their mother may have taken them to Spain.

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Having a bit of luck on your side is always important in cracking a case.

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That's really why I looked into Spain.

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It just seemed like it fitted better than other places.

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I wasn't sure, but it looked better than the other options.

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Another piece of luck for Hector was that he speaks fluent Spanish

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so he was ideally placed to conduct an investigation there.

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One of the things we did find just by trawling through the internet

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was that the family of Gaweda/Garrido is only centred in one place in Spain.

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In Valencia.

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The case was cracked, as far as I was concerned. I just needed to find people and talk to them.

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Hector found a recent record for Tadeusz's son, Roberto,

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online, along with some contact details.

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So he decided to make a first attempt to contact him.

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SPEAKS SPANISH

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Still to come:

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Initially our contact with Roberto wasn't exactly very successful.

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Hector's heir hunt runs into a spot of bother.

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-TRANSLATION:

-I thought it was a con.

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And in the search for Douglas Greatrex's heirs,

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one beneficiary gets a lot more than she bargained for.

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-It might pay for a holiday.

-Might get a bit further than Blackpool!

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For every case that is solved,

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there are still thousands that remain a mystery. Currently,

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over 3,000 names drawn from across the country

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are on the Treasury's unsolved case list.

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With estates valued at anything from 5,000 to millions of pounds,

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the rightful heirs are out there somewhere.

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Today, we've got two cases heir hunters have so far failed to solve.

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Could you be the missing link?

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Could you be in line for a payout?

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Mustafa Kamal died in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey,

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on 8 November 2005.

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Was he a friend or neighbour of yours?

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Could you even be related to him

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and entitled to his estate?

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Bertha Helen Hutson passed away on 16 October 1998

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in Sleaford, Lincolnshire.

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If no relatives come forward,

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her money will go to the government.

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But should it be headed your way?

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If the names Mustafa Kamal or Bertha Helen Hutson mean anything to you,

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you could have a fortune coming your way.

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Heir hunter Hector Birchwood

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was searching for heirs to Tadeusz Gaweda's £37,000 estate.

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He gambled that Tadeusz's children had returned to Spain with their mother, Carmen,

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and his gamble paid off.

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He found a phone number for Tadeusz's son, Roberto,

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who was out when he called.

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So he left a message telling him that he could be a beneficiary of an estate.

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SPEAKS SPANISH

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IN SPANISH

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My first impression was that it was a con.

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One of those internet scams

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where they contact you and tell you you've inherited money.

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As Hector had guessed, Roberto's parents' marriage had broken down.

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His mother had taken the children back to live with her parents in Spain.

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He called the house one time when we were in Madrid.

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But my mother was always so scared that he would come and take us away.

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Legally, she had been in the wrong.

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At that time, you needed a father's permission if children left the country without him.

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Tadeusz never made another attempt to contact his children.

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Roberto's mother never spoke of him.

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So Roberto's only knowledge of his father

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were a few photos and the stories told to him by his grandfather.

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My grandfather came to England once with my grandmother when we were very little.

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He met my father, and it seems they had a lot in common.

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He always said he was a very intelligent man

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and a very hard worker.

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I can't help thinking I would have loved to have had the chance to talk to him.

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But after talking to Hector, Roberto decided to come over to England

0:23:340:23:39

to find out what he could about the father he never knew.

0:23:390:23:43

For me, this is the final conclusion of my father's life.

0:23:470:23:50

The great thing is that now I have the chance to finish the story.

0:23:500:23:54

Being able to fill in the gaps of his life that I never knew

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will help me to understand him better.

0:24:020:24:05

With the case solved, Hector arranged to meet Roberto,

0:24:150:24:18

to give him the information and paperwork provided by the Treasury.

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This included the immigration application

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that was written by the Home Office when Tadeusz arrived in Britain in 1946.

0:24:260:24:30

GREET IN SPANISH

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This brief paragraph gave a fascinating insight

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into his early life during one of the darkest periods of European history.

0:24:380:24:43

IN SPANISH

0:24:430:24:46

The document revealed that his father was actually born in France in 1929.

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The family only moved to eastern Poland in 1933.

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But any hopes of a peaceful family life were destroyed

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when, in 1939, Hitler's army invaded Poland

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and Tadeusz was thrown into the chaos of the Second World War.

0:25:120:25:16

Poland was invaded by the Nazis on Friday 1st September 1939.

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A week or so before,

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the Nazis and Russians had signed a non-aggression pact

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which gave Hitler the green light to invade Poland.

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Also, secret clauses were in place

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that gave Russia the green light to invade eastern Poland

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which it did on 17 September 1939.

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Ten-year-old Tadeusz was captured by the Russians

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and deported along with thousands of other Poles to a Russian labour camp.

0:25:520:25:56

Conditions in all Russian labour camps were extremely harsh,

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not only for those Poles perceived as the class enemies of Russia,

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but also the people that had been swept up under Stalin's purges

0:26:070:26:11

and put into the Gulags.

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Very poor food, long hours of hard, and sometimes senseless labour as well.

0:26:130:26:18

Then, in 1942, Hitler invaded Russia.

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Tadeusz was dragged back to Germany to work as slave labour for the Nazi war machine.

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The German war economy was so dependent on foreign labour.

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To give you an example, in 1944,

0:26:420:26:45

there were over seven million foreigners working in Germany.

0:26:450:26:49

The vast majority were slave labourers

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that the Nazis had taken in manhunts

0:26:520:26:54

throughout eastern occupied Europe.

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Amazingly, Tadeusz, still only in his early teens,

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and risking execution if he'd been caught,

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managed to escape from Germany.

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Somehow, he crossed the border to Italy and hooked up with fellow Poles.

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His army records show he joined the Polish Resettlement Corps

0:27:150:27:19

in 1946 to help with the clean-up.

0:27:190:27:22

Tadeusz's incredible journey came to an end not long after

0:27:270:27:31

when he arrived in England to start a new life after the chaos of the war years.

0:27:310:27:36

I think that Tadeusz's story is not an untypical one

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for people that lived in central Europe.

0:27:410:27:43

We in Britain have to be very grateful we didn't have to live through it.

0:27:430:27:48

I'm afraid it is so typical of so many hundreds of thousands of people

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especially younger people,

0:27:520:27:54

who were really buffeted between the two sides

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of National Socialism - Nazism -

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and Soviet Communism.

0:28:010:28:03

Having learned about his father's astonishing history from Hector,

0:28:050:28:11

Roberto then set off on the final stage of his journey

0:28:110:28:14

to Kington Camp in Herefordshire.

0:28:140:28:17

According to the records,

0:28:170:28:19

this is where Tadeusz was housed along with many other Polish soldiers

0:28:190:28:23

when they first arrived in this country.

0:28:230:28:26

Local historian Kenneth Reeves showed him round the camp.

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These are the sort of huts that your father would have been billeted in.

0:28:320:28:38

They were originally built for the American army as a hospital.

0:28:380:28:44

They were designed to last for 25 years. That was in 1943.

0:28:440:28:49

They've now been here something like 66 years

0:28:490:28:52

and they're rather beginning to show their age

0:28:520:28:55

and most of them are falling down.

0:28:550:28:58

Compared to what Tadeusz would have experienced in Germany and Russia,

0:28:590:29:03

this camp would have been like a five-star hotel.

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But for Roberto, it was a very moving experience.

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-TRANSLATION:

-It makes me feel sad, very sad,

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how my father could have survived before, during and after the war.

0:29:200:29:24

I had no idea before all this how he could have endured such a terrible life.

0:29:280:29:33

So, this is it.

0:29:410:29:43

The end of a story that I didn't get to hear about first hand.

0:29:430:29:46

But at least now I can say that I know about my father's life

0:29:460:29:50

and it's helped me to understand him.

0:29:500:29:54

Tadeusz's life, and that of millions of Europeans

0:29:550:29:58

caught between the Nazi and communist regimes during the war

0:29:580:30:02

was one of unimaginable suffering and hardship.

0:30:020:30:05

Sadly, Tadeusz never got to see his children grow up.

0:30:070:30:11

But he did manage to leave them a legacy of £37,000

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which was ultimately shared between the three of them.

0:30:150:30:18

For Hector,

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it was a satisfying end to a case that could have remained unsolved

0:30:200:30:24

if he hadn't retrieved it from that bottom drawer.

0:30:240:30:27

I'm really pleased that the case eventually came to a successful fruition.

0:30:280:30:32

First of all because I could justify the amount of time I spent on this case.

0:30:320:30:38

Second of all,

0:30:380:30:40

because my hunch was right in going to Spain.

0:30:400:30:45

More than that, really, is that I was very happy

0:30:450:30:48

to know that some of these cases that are unsolved

0:30:480:30:52

can still be solved, can still be cracked,

0:30:520:30:54

if you have enough determination

0:30:540:30:56

or at least if you have the right kind of luck, like I did!

0:30:560:31:00

Fraser and Fraser have been looking into the case of Douglas Greatrex

0:31:080:31:12

who died aged 75 in Birmingham.

0:31:120:31:15

Douglas was the youngest of his siblings by several years

0:31:150:31:18

and had fallen out of touch with his extended family.

0:31:180:31:21

When he died, he owned a property

0:31:210:31:24

but he didn't own the leasehold, which will affect the value of his estate.

0:31:240:31:29

It is a property case, but it may be worth a couple of thousand,

0:31:310:31:35

not a couple of hundred thousand pounds as we'd hoped for.

0:31:350:31:38

The team got off to a great start with their investigation.

0:31:380:31:42

It wasn't long before they'd managed to trace 16 of Douglas's heirs.

0:31:420:31:47

-Someone gave me John L's neighbours.

-I gave you those.

0:31:470:31:50

There's quite a few siblings of the deceased.

0:31:520:31:57

This is near kin.

0:31:570:31:58

For the heir hunters, if they can't find any children of the deceased,

0:32:000:32:05

the next best result is to find near kin,

0:32:050:32:08

meaning siblings or nieces and nephews.

0:32:080:32:11

-Hi, Paul.

-Hi, Dave.

-We've got it up to date with near kin on it.

-Right.

0:32:130:32:17

We've got addresses of a niece and a couple of nephews in Birmingham.

0:32:170:32:23

OK. Catch you later. Cheers. Bye.

0:32:230:32:26

Paul's just round the corner from the first address he's been given.

0:32:280:32:33

There's no-one in, so he tries the neighbours.

0:32:350:32:39

Sorry, I'm trying to get hold of your neighbour, Trevor. Does he work in the day?

0:32:400:32:45

Paul calls David Pacifico in the office to give him the bad news.

0:32:450:32:49

It's always the way. We get the early breakthroughs

0:32:490:32:53

but people are at work, aren't they?

0:32:530:32:55

We've got more addresses for Trevor's siblings.

0:32:550:32:59

-Yeah?

-We've got a Roy living at Yardley.

0:32:590:33:03

Okey-cokey, Dave.

0:33:030:33:05

David's finally managed to make an appointment with one of Douglas's heirs.

0:33:070:33:11

His nephew, Roy Stevens, is the eldest son of Douglas's sister Doris

0:33:110:33:16

and her husband Sydney.

0:33:160:33:19

Mr Stevens? Paul Matthews, Fraser and Fraser, a probate research company.

0:33:210:33:25

We deal with the estates of people who pass away without making wills.

0:33:250:33:29

We think you're entitled to an estate we're dealing with.

0:33:290:33:32

-Got a few minutes?

-OK.

-Thank you very much.

0:33:320:33:35

Paul needs to check that Roy is actually Douglas's nephew.

0:33:350:33:39

He gets straight down to business.

0:33:400:33:43

Right, your mum, Doris. Did she have brothers and sisters?

0:33:430:33:48

-Yeah. Dougie.

-OK.

-It's not him gone, is it?

0:33:480:33:52

-Uh, yeah.

-Dougie? I had a horrible feeling it was Dougie.

0:33:520:33:57

He passed away. He hasn't...

0:33:570:33:59

Roy remembers Douglas well,

0:33:590:34:02

so his death comes as a shock.

0:34:020:34:05

-Carry on.

-Take your time.

-I'm all right.

0:34:050:34:08

Dougie, yeah.

0:34:080:34:10

What do you know about Dougie?

0:34:100:34:12

We actually seen a lot of Dougie up until Mum went.

0:34:120:34:16

And then, all of a sudden,

0:34:160:34:17

we sort of lost sight of him and things.

0:34:170:34:21

-Just disappeared? How long ago? Years?

-A long time ago.

0:34:210:34:25

I guess that at the end of the day, if Douglas saved a few bob, fair play to him.

0:34:260:34:31

Cos we haven't helped!

0:34:310:34:34

He's obviously saved it for you.

0:34:340:34:37

If you get a few bob, what will you do with it?

0:34:370:34:39

-I don't know. Have a drink.

-Have a drink. OK, that's nice.

0:34:390:34:44

Thanks for your time. I'll speak to you later on. Cheers. Bye!

0:34:450:34:49

By the end of their meeting, Roy's happy for Frasers to assist him in his claim.

0:34:490:34:54

And Paul's delighted to have signed up his first heir.

0:34:540:34:57

But just then, something rather extraordinary happens.

0:35:020:35:06

Back in the office, Neil has just made a connection

0:35:060:35:09

that takes everyone by surprise.

0:35:090:35:12

What we've just found out

0:35:120:35:14

is that this is a tree which I've just printed off

0:35:140:35:18

from a case run by Marcus at the beginning of this year.

0:35:180:35:23

Eight months ago, the heir hunters dealt with the case of a Peter William Greatrex,

0:35:230:35:28

also from Birmingham,

0:35:280:35:30

who, it turns out, was Douglas Greatrex's nephew.

0:35:300:35:33

Peter William, his father was William Arthur Greatrex.

0:35:360:35:40

William Arthur Greatrex is on this tree over here...

0:35:400:35:44

..sat here as a brother of the deceased.

0:35:450:35:49

So this bit of tree automatically joins onto here.

0:35:490:35:53

If Peter Greatrex had lived,

0:35:560:35:58

he would have inherited some of his Uncle Douglas's estate.

0:35:580:36:01

But as it is, his share will pass to his daughter Samantha,

0:36:010:36:05

who, eight months ago, discovered that she was to inherit from her father's £6,000 estate.

0:36:050:36:10

NEIL: She is now a beneficiary on this estate as well.

0:36:130:36:17

So she's a double beneficiary inside 12 months.

0:36:170:36:20

Um, it's a little strange.

0:36:200:36:23

Ten months ago, when Samantha was contacted during the last series of Heir Hunters,

0:36:260:36:31

she learned that her father had died.

0:36:310:36:33

The news was a great shock to her, as her parents had split up when she was a baby

0:36:330:36:38

and that was the last she'd seen of him.

0:36:380:36:40

It was strange that it was a loss. I felt a loss.

0:36:420:36:46

Although you've lost somebody who's a part of you

0:36:460:36:50

you know nothing about them

0:36:500:36:52

and that's quite difficult.

0:36:520:36:56

I always thought that I'd get the chance to at least say goodbye.

0:36:590:37:03

That sounds a bit strange.

0:37:040:37:06

Say goodbye to somebody that you don't know.

0:37:060:37:09

Less than a year on, and the heir hunters have another reason to get in touch with Samantha.

0:37:130:37:18

I'm gonna phone her up now.

0:37:210:37:23

It's fallen to case manager David Pacifico

0:37:270:37:30

to break the news to her that she's lost another relative.

0:37:300:37:33

'Hello. Miss Greatrex?'

0:37:350:37:37

It's Fraser and Fraser.

0:37:370:37:38

Hello, there. You won't believe this, but we believe you would be a beneficiary on another estate.

0:37:390:37:46

Well, this one is going back through your grandfather's side of the family.

0:37:460:37:50

Yes, unbelievable.

0:37:520:37:53

Samantha is also based in Birmingham, so David sends Paul straight round to see her.

0:37:550:38:01

-Hi, Samantha. Paul Matthews, Fraser and Fraser.

-Nice to meet you.

0:38:070:38:11

-Come in.

-Cheers.

0:38:110:38:12

Paul goes back over Samantha's family tree

0:38:120:38:15

to show her how she's related to her deceased great-uncle Douglas.

0:38:150:38:19

-Do you know anything about your grandparents at all?

-No,

0:38:190:38:24

only what I got told by Frasers, their names.

0:38:240:38:26

For Samantha, it's the second time in less than a year

0:38:260:38:30

that she's been confronted with information about relations that she never knew she had.

0:38:300:38:36

It's sad the circumstances it comes about.

0:38:360:38:39

But this one's a nice one compared to the last one.

0:38:390:38:42

It's very distant. You never knew the person.

0:38:420:38:44

His estate is either gonna go to people like yourself,

0:38:440:38:48

or to the government. It's better going to you.

0:38:480:38:51

-You can add it to the other one.

-At least I can get somewhere with it.

0:38:510:38:55

-It might pay for a holiday.

-I might get a bit further than Blackpool!

0:38:550:38:59

Samantha's very happy to let Frasers assist her on making her second inheritance claim.

0:38:590:39:05

So she signs up.

0:39:050:39:07

You've got one of these already. You can collect them!

0:39:070:39:10

You're totally unique!

0:39:100:39:12

Twice in ten months. Fantastic.

0:39:120:39:15

Paul's got a busy afternoon ahead of him.

0:39:160:39:18

He heads off to his next appointment.

0:39:180:39:21

All the best. Hope you get a nice sum of money.

0:39:210:39:23

-Thank you very much.

-Cheers. Bye!

-Bye.

0:39:230:39:26

In all, the team have uncovered 16 heirs to Douglas Greatrex's estate,

0:39:300:39:35

who all need to be visited and signed up.

0:39:350:39:38

Luckily, senior researcher Ewart Lindsay has arrived to help

0:39:390:39:43

and has gone straight to the house of one of Douglas's nieces.

0:39:430:39:47

Hello, Mrs Margetts. Ewart Lindsay from Fraser and Fraser.

0:39:470:39:50

-OK. Do you want to come in?

-Thank you.

0:39:500:39:52

Yvonne is the daughter of another of Douglas's brothers,

0:39:540:39:57

Harry Greatrex.

0:39:570:39:59

She, along with her four surviving brothers and sisters,

0:39:590:40:02

all stand to inherit from their uncle's estate.

0:40:020:40:05

-Do you have an idea who the deceased is?

-Yes, Dougie.

0:40:070:40:11

That's correct.

0:40:110:40:13

Unlike Samantha, Yvonne did know her Uncle Dougie, although she hadn't seen him in a long while.

0:40:130:40:20

-Do you know if he had his own house?

-I don't know.

0:40:200:40:23

The last time I seen him, he was living with my nan, his mother.

0:40:230:40:27

In the end, Frasers signed up all 16 of Douglas's heirs.

0:40:280:40:32

His estate turned out to be worth £13,000,

0:40:320:40:37

which was split between them all.

0:40:370:40:40

None of them got a life-changing sum of money, but all got a reminder of the importance of family

0:40:400:40:45

and a dear and long-lost uncle.

0:40:450:40:48

I saw him probably when I was 15, so we're going back 30 years!

0:40:480:40:53

I very rarely saw him, actually. He used to be quite a recluse.

0:40:530:40:57

He kept himself to himself.

0:40:570:41:00

The first thought that crossed my mind was,

0:41:000:41:03

"Who buried him?" Was it family? Was it friends?

0:41:030:41:07

Someone, you know, who knew him.

0:41:070:41:10

Not nobody who didn't know him.

0:41:100:41:13

Although Douglas wasn't a very outgoing person,

0:41:160:41:19

he did have a few close friends who were there for him at the end

0:41:190:41:22

and gave him a proper send-off.

0:41:220:41:24

The funeral itself was taken by his local vicar, the Rev Greg Mensing.

0:41:270:41:33

Occasionally, there are funerals which I take like Doug's,

0:41:350:41:39

where there are very few people,

0:41:390:41:41

but they were all there

0:41:410:41:43

because they loved him

0:41:430:41:45

and because they wanted to pay their last respects

0:41:450:41:48

to a man that they cared for.

0:41:480:41:51

Of those who did attend the funeral,

0:41:510:41:53

he will be missed most by his dear friend, Angela,

0:41:530:41:57

and her children, who were his surrogate family.

0:41:570:42:00

For weeks after he'd gone,

0:42:010:42:04

the phone would go, and I'd often wish, "Is that Doug?"

0:42:040:42:09

It really took a while to accept

0:42:090:42:13

that's not him on the end of the phone any more.

0:42:130:42:16

Yeah.

0:42:160:42:18

You know, that phone call out of the blue,

0:42:180:42:21

"Hi, how are you doing?" We don't get that every day, do we?

0:42:210:42:26

I think that was nice. And he always made you smile.

0:42:260:42:31

He wasn't happy unless he put a smile on your face.

0:42:320:42:35

If you would like advice about building your family tree

0:42:430:42:46

or making a will, go to bbc.co.uk

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