Episode 3 Autumnwatch Unsprung


Episode 3

Informal live discussion show after the main Autumnwatch programme. Chris, Michaela and Martin are joined by wildlife film-maker Johnny Kingdom, who shares his videos.


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Are you want to know the difference between a beak and a bill? Do you

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want to get involved in the show and tell us about your or autumn

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experiences? If you do, you are in the right place. This is

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Autumnwatch Unsprung! Of course, tonight with us, hidden behind the

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audience, is Level-headed Jo. Communicate with us through the

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ether. We have got our fabulous audience here. And amongst them, it

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is going to be a beast of a show, we have that 72-year-old beast,

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Johnny Kingdom. I think we should start off with some rather fabulous

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photos, inspired by last week, with our live rock pool. Let's have a

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look at the photos that you send in. This was a small, spotted cat to

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shock, on the Gower peninsula, hiding under some seaweed. -- cat

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shark. Why have they changed from calling it a dog fish? I have

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absolutely no idea. They change the name of everything all the time. It

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will depend on the size of the rock pool, whether it will be too big or

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not. If it gets too big and it uses all of the oxygen, there could be

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trouble. We have got another picture here, inspired by last week,

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a sea urchin. Incredible bit of natural architecture. How does it

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work? I think it extends itself, using those pieces at the top. It

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pushes itself out of the protective part of the sea urchin, and it can

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nibble away, using that bit in the centre. What does a sea urchin eat?

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It nibbles on things like algae. Let's have a look at another

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picture, this is a sparrowhawk. has been trying to grab a ton stone.

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It says a lot about the tenacity of these birds, they're so ferocious,

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even when a bird is flying over the sea, trying to get away from it, it

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cannot do so. Now, last week we had a bit of a conundrum with the snipe.

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Let's have a look at it again. We said we did not know why it was

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bobbing. There is no mistaking that this is definitely a proactive

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behaviour type. We have had several ideas sent in to us. Kirstie's dad

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said he thought it might be to mimic the movement of the water, to

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help their camouflage. We think this might be one reason why

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dippers might dip and wagtails might wag. However, these birds

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live in marshes, not alongside water. We do know that some birds

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repeatedly stamped on the ground to disturbed insects. But not this one,

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we do not think so. But here's a really good one. These two think

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that because the snipe does not have binocular vision, his has its

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eyes on the side of its head, that when it bobs up and down, it allows

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it to get two vantage points from the same place, and developed

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stereoscopic vision, so it can judge distances very well. I might

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buy into that. Except that woodcock also have their eyes on the side of

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their head, and they just do not bob up and down. But it might be a

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feeding thing. I think that is the best idea we have had. Hats off to

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those two. I'm just going to do something. I'm going to put that

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stone there. Can we have some things? You will see why a we are

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doing this later on. It looks a bit random! Would you like to come

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round and do my Christmas decorations? We will come back to

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that magic stone later. OK, quiz. We have here are three different

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types of British bill. You have to let us know which bird would be

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Send your answers into Jo and she will see if anyone can get this

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right. Let's just see in the audience. Anyone? It is a tricky

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one. I think A is the most tricky one. But B is quite difficult, too.

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If none of you know, can you all just go, and we will bring the

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other audience in?! We have a question from Facebook - does the

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autumn spread across the country from one end to the other? The it

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does, in fact. It goes from the north-east of the south-west. I'm

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not quite sure how they judge this, but it is thought to take 80 days

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to do that. That seems remarkable to me. -- 18 days. Of course, there

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are so many factors involved. could have a beech tree which was

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an unwise watery place, another one which is bone dry, completely

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different. As a general trend, the answer is yes, but it varies from

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year to year. Our next one is for you, it is from a 15-year-old,

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Caroline. I liked this one, I have been taken to task by a 15-year-old

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girl. I have that regularly, actually. But she has written to me

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and said, we were talking about birds singing and as said that it

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would be impossible for them to do that simply for pleasure, that

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animals always do something for a reason. And she said, I will

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condense it, she says they have a chemical in the brain which

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produces a pleasure response. Michaela was saying earlier that

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when she does exercise, it makes her feel good, for the same reason.

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I do exercise and I feel...! She says this has been proven to be

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found in the brains of birds. So could it be that when they sing

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this chemical gets released, which provides them with pleasure, and

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therefore they continue to sing? Interesting, I have to say,

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Caroline. First of all, birds sing for a function, either to defend a

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territory or to attract a mate. Secondly, there is an evolutionary

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reason for this. Sometimes it is a development thing. They might be

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singing to learn the soul from the adults or something. And then of

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course, lastly, there is the whole reason why it starts in the first

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place. I suppose I admire your idea, it is a useful one, but I don't

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think they can sing just for pleasure. It is interesting that

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singing might produce pleasure, which would enhance them to sing

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more. But whether they actually feel joyful or not, what do you

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think? There are some animals which do things just for pleasure. Do

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they? That is what I have always thought. You have just don't go

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huge pit for yourself. Are you saying no animals other than humans

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do things for pleasure? No, I think there has to be a function behind

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the pleasure. Even if the bird is feeling pleasure, there is a

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functional reason for that. Whereas perhaps we would do something for

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pleasure, like watch football, and there is no functional reason for

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that whatsoever. Although speaking as a Southampton fan, and being top

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of the Championship at the moment, I have got dopamine! Someone who

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gets a great deal of pleasure about being in Exmoor is our guest for

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I had better take a hat off. Good to see you, mate. Johnny has so

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much passion full of life, and in particular, Exmoor, your home.

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for a long time. I have got some questions here. This is from

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another 15-year-old, Josh. He's thinking of going into wildlife

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filming. He wants to ask Johnny, does he need to invest in

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professional stuff or is it better to start small and build up? Start

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small and build up would be the right way to do it. The main thing

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is to get the right sort of dress. Honestly, I use a mask and gloves

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and everything. It is important, when the sun shines on your face,

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especially with the deer, they can see you. If I was that age, I would

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think about asking a farmer, see if you can get on to a little bit of

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ground, and build a hide. This is what I have done. Go and ask the

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Farmer, there's a lot of nice farmers on Exmoor, they will let

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you build a little hide. A small camera would be the right idea, but

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it is the dress. This is a handy thing to have, something

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interesting. Especially at this time of year, in October. If you

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get something like this, this will attract some things. This will call

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the stag up to you. The stag will come to you. Are you telling a 15-

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year-old to hide in the bush? not? That's brilliant, isn't it?

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That's a bad idea! What's this one? Wild boar. It is a fallow deer.

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This man has got it right. He's so good. What about this one? It has

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eyehole murder of blackbirds and thrushes, isn't it? A could be

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right, I do not even know myself! had this done, those other calls,

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especially this one... I will not tell you the name of the stag, I

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knew him so well, for many years. Can I just say, if you are on half-

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term next week, do not get one of those, I'm not sure that is a good

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idea. But if you want a call the stag up, you would get some lovely

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shots. You would. I would be straight down the shop if I was a

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15-year-old to get one of those. Get some brilliant shots, then you

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can make some really good films. That is the way I do it. A lovely

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camera like that. A 20xzoom lens. Any important. And if you have got

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any home movies, we would love to Right. We'll move on now. We're

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going to my favourite part. Sorry, Johnny, that was my favourite part.

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This is my second favourite part coming up soon. Questions now.

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We ae had questions. This is one, this is something which comes up

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again and again "Could you help me identify the difference between all

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the blackbirds?" Let's start with the most common one. What we need

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is somebody, a friend of Unsprung, Lloyd. Come on in, please. Help us

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answer this question. It's our live animal in the studio. Fantastic.

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Right, Lloyd, please tell us, what is this big blackbird A 16-year-old

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carryian crow. The one that people have problems is what is the

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difference between this and a rook. They are the same size? It is

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confusing when they are juveniles. When they are adults, always this

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crow has a lovely black head, feathered around his face. With the

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Rooks they have a grey facial patch. And they tend to form large flocks

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in a field. Crows tends to be individuals or small groups. If you

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see a lot of crows together it is rooks.

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There's a rook with the white face. Slightly ugly, I think. Look, this

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is beautiful. They have a lovely blue sheen to their plumage. He has

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it a little bit. He's quite big. reasonable size. That is crows and

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rooks. In a minute you'll bring us another treat on. Yes. Shall I go?

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That's a crow. We've done the rook. When a crow is flying they have a

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rounded tail and the rook has a square-cut tail F you get one on

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its own and it is soaring above you.... We have a picture. No, this

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is slightly different. Here we have a crow, here, and on the other side

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it was the largest of all the of them in the world. This is a raven

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with a diamond-shaped tail. It has been brought on too early. Let's go

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to a blackbird that is very common - this is the jackdaw. There's a

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jackdaw. You can see, it has beautiful blue eyes and an almost

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grey head. Where you see them, I have them all over my house. They

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try and get in the chimney. Every year the chimney sweep has to get

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them out. It is not poor old chimney sweep. They are quite

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expensive. A much paler bird. I would like to say thank you to the

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contribute ir. Yellow Welly sent the picture of the raven and Steve

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the picture of the crow. We have done the crow, the rook, in big

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groups. The jackdaw. What we want is the king, and by golli we've got

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him. This is Bran. He's a raven and he's

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enormous. He's seen something here. He's also seen it.

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That stone I put in there. That is Bran's stone, isn't it? Yes. Go on

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then. He knows there is a treat for him underneath. You clever birbd.

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This is his stone. -- bird. This is his stone. The stone goes with us.

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I hide it in various places. So he knows that is his stone? This is

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not good enough, I am afraid. Help us with that original question.

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How do you tell if it is a raven. He is enormous. By the size. He's a

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larger bird and a lovely sort of diamond tail. Can you see that

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diamond tail and the call. Very deep throated. When they open their

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throat and call.... Ravens are much more common now in the UK. They

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used to be very rare. Shall I tell you something else he can do. This

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will show you how strong they are. Under here I have a, oh the food

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has come.... Here you are, there's a two pound weight there. He knows

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to turn that over. There we are. Good boy. Now, unfortunately the

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food reward has come out of it, so I will give him something for doing

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Now I'll turn it over. He did all that and there was nothing there.

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That is two lbs. It shows how much strength he has in his neck to do

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that. Oh, he's off! He was wrecking your Christmas

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display there. He is forgiven. He's brilliant. Is he happy to sit there

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for a while while we move on? likes to wander around. There could

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be mayhem. We have done it. Stay here, mate.

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If he gets upset. Do we have any questions for Lloyd?

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Are there any questions? Is he the first one to build a nest? You are

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right, they nest early. You are right. Threes weeks ago I saw 17

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ravens on Exmoor. They are getting a lot of ravens around. When we see

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a raven we think of the Tower of London because that is where it

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originated from. That is the first bird to build a nest.

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This one from Twitter, "Where's the best place to see ravens in the

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UK?" There are very good places I believe up in Anglesey. A big roost

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there. Generally around the UK, you would be surprised where they are.

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In Somerset, Wiltshire, a lot around the Bristol area. You can

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see them in the Avon Gorge and in city environments, they roost in

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cathedrals. Even though they are bigger, sometimes to get your

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perspective right, it is not easy. The call is a dead give away.

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Have we time for the other question, from Janet Smith, she is watching a

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small group of ravens in East Devon, one had a twig in its beak, it

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transferred it from its beak to its feet - why? It was showing off and

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showing how clever and agile it was in the sky. It could be looking for

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a mate. It could be a juvenile young bird. Often they do these

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things because they are fun. They do things because they can and its

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a laugh. I think he wants to answer himself. Don't you poop on my map!

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Yes, I'm talking to you! What about some photos?

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 41 seconds

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They were outstanding. We never have time to show enough. There are

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64,000 or something on the Flickr site. Any favourites, you harsh

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man! I rather like this one, the reflection of the egret. I am

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concerned about that bubble. This was spoiling everything for me.

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This is mine, Stephen Darlington, for me, it is almost surreal, that

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misty, that beauty. This is my favourite, I think it is amazing.

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Gareth Scanlon. It is stunning that behaviour. It is. Don't start!

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not very pretty. It's an interesting piece of behaviour, but

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it is ugly. And the background is a bit of a mess.

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Why don't we have a vote in the audience. Leaves up if you like

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this one best? Leaves up for this one? Not very

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many. Leaves up for my one. Or, more. Fivers later. Leavings up for

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my one. What about this? This is one I

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picked out. I think art has to have a place and this one is taken, it

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was taken by Chris MCglogan. It is a piece of grass with a spider's

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web on it. I like that. I would put it on my wall. You can. You can

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take it home! The quiz. You hold that. A, the red

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beak, B or C. Have we had any correct answers. 300 people have

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had a go. Brad, Gym the Bird, they got them all.

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The first was pretty tricky. Why don't we show you which bill this

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bird belongs to. This is clever this. A bit, there

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it goes. Yes, it's the chuff. And the second bird.

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What is that voice behind me getting them all right?

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I didn't notice before they had this notch on the lower part. I

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think we have some film so some foraging here. They use their bill

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to root around. Look at this one here. That blood-red bill, into

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that crevice. The Welsh believe the chuff is the embodiment of King

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Arthur, with the blood of his enemies on his beak and talons.

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Vy to collar fi something from last week that you -- -- I have to

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clarify something from last week. Which owl does the twit and which

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does the twoo. The male does the twoo. The females are going "twit"

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to the male. Sorry, but it's true!

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Oh, hello! Right, do we have some questions here? We have James from

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Facebook - why do badgers cover their nose while sleeping? The same

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reason as dogs. Another area that would lose heat. It is not

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insulated. If they are curled up, they hide their nose, foxes wrap

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their tails around their nose, so do wolves. I am not sure you

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answered that. He gave it a try. This one, "Getting more and more

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blackbirds with black beaks and less and less with yellow, orangey

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beaks." Someone reported a collection of blackbirds with black

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beaks in the north of England. I have not seen one of these birds.

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Why don't we throw that out to our viewers. If you have some, send us

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in a photo and tell us where they are and come up with a theory as to

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why this morph of blackbird seems to be working in those areas? I

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suggestion it would not be as good as a yellow beak.

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I think it is time to find out what is going on. It is half time for a

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lot of people next week. So, what is going on in the map?

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Put in your postcode and find things near you. Tomorrow, that is

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Saturday, at Leeds museum, there's a discovery centre where they have

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beastie beasts to see between 10- 12pm. On Sunday, at the centre,

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there is a feed the birds event. You don't need to book. Finally if

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you want to get up early on Sunday morning there is a goose breakfast,

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which I think means watching them, rather than eating them, that is in

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Autumnwatch Unsprung has light hearted post-show analysis, with nature quizzes, special guests and your wildlife questions answered.

Chris, Michaela and Martin are joined in the studio by wildlife film-maker Johnny Kingdom, who is sharing his videos. Post your questions for the team and get involved at bbc.co.uk/autumnwatch.


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