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'The humble bee is in decline. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
'According to some, their numbers have fallen by half in the UK | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
'since the 1980s. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
'And it's not just a sad loss for our gardens. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
'It's a potential disaster for British agriculture | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
'and further afield, too.' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
So, right across the world, scientists have been searching | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
for the cause of their mysterious decline. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
And in Europe they think they might have found a culprit. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
'The European Commission believes the blame lies | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
'with some of the world's most widely-used agricultural pesticides, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
'neonicotinoids. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
'It wants to ban them from 1st July.' | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
But not everyone is convinced | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and Britain is now one of a number of countries resisting a ban, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
not least because of its impact on farming. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
'I've come to Kent to meet farmer Andy Barr. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
'Like many, his crop is already suffering a slow start, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
'thanks to the cold spring weather.' | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
It's not quite what you'd expect for mid-April, is it? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
No, it's horrible. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
It's really having an effect on these oilseed rape plants. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
'Rather than spraying his fields, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
'Andy uses seeds treated with neonicotinoids. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
'But he's worried that a ban would make a bad year even worse.' | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
You had me bring this bag of seed with us in order to show | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
how the neonicotinoids work, but talk me through it. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
-What are the stages? -Right, well this is the seed we would plant | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
in the autumn, basically. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
Each one of those seeds will produce one plant. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
-This seed is already treated with the neonicotinoids? -It is. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
Do you think there could be something in there, hidden, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
that's killing our bees? Because that's what's being suggested. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
To me, as a farmer, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
there is a very tiny amount of neonicotinoid on there. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
That tiny seed, one of them, grows into a plant taller than me | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
and about this wide. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
And I plant it one August and it's flowering in the next May. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
Is there enough there, in real field situation, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
to have an effect on the bees? | 0:02:30 | 0:02:31 | |
At the moment, the scientists don't have an answer for me. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
No-one has said there is a definitive, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
real field situation effect on bees. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
So, what did you do before you had neonicotinoids? | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
Before we had them, we had to come through very soon after planting, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
when the plants were very small, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
and spray the whole field two or three times. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:52 | |
And did you feel that had other collateral damage? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
That's why I was so pleased when they came along. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
I felt it was a good thing cos we weren't spraying everything, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
we were just treating the seed and the plants. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
So it was much more targeted. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:04 | |
'Neonicotinoids protect around a third of our crops | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
'from being eaten by insects. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
'It's claimed banning them would leave farmers relying | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
'on less efficient methods that would cost them millions. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
'But farmers need bees, too. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
'They play a vital role in pollinating many crops, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
'like oilseed rape. 'Losing them would slash yields. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
'So, to keep a healthy supply on Andy's farm, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
'he leaves space for wild flowers and even has his own beekeeper.' | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
So, if I can just take the top off there. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
And again. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
'Alistair Wormsley has kept hives here for five years. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
'I'm helping him prepare for the warmer weather.' | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Because it's so cold, are the bees pretty unlikely to venture out? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:55 | |
I would think the bees are unlikely to venture out | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
at much below eight degrees centigrade. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
'It seems we spoke too soon.' | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
The bees are basically wild animals, so even when we expect them | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
to do one thing and stay in the snow, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
they've actually decided to come out. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
So I'll leave Alistair there with his veil to do the work. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
'Those supporting a ban on neonicotinoids | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
'claim they disorientate bees. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
'So much so that many never find their way home. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
'Alistair says he's seen evidence of that confusion for himself.' | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
The symptoms were very much like the bees were being given Alzheimer's. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
They were, if you like... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
There was 30-40,000 bees in the colony one week, going strong. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:44 | |
You come back the next week, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
and there'll be a couple of hundred bees there with the queen | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
and all the working bees had deserted. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
'Yet, despite seeing some of the symptoms, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
'Alistair says he's not seen enough to convince him yet | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
'it's time to take drastic action.' | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-So, would you want to see a ban? -No. No, no, no. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
What I want to see is the work done to prove the situation | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
one way or the other. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
'The search for that proof is still going on and beekeepers, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
'farmers and even governments are all looking to the world of science | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
'to give them a definitive answer.' | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Hundreds of scientists from right across the world | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
are working on the great mystery of what's killing our bees | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and that includes at least a dozen projects from the UK. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
Hi, Chris, how's it going? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
'Dr Adam Vanbergen is from the Insect Pollinators Initiative, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
'which oversees nine UK research projects.' | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
OK, I'll do the lights. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
See if we can just collect one to take a sample. Back towards me. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
'Like many other scientists, he's yet to be convinced | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
'that neonicotinoids are such a menace | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
'that they should be banned right now.' | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
This lab here has actually shown some effect of neonicotinoids | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
-on bees' brains, so is it time for a ban? -Yeah, I think... | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
Well, it's interesting you say that. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
The results coming out of this lab and others are extremely concerning. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
They're showing impacts on the brain function. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
What I think we need to do is to increase | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
the complexity of those experiments, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
to mimic what goes on in the real world | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
and perhaps also carry out field experiments in the real world too. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Shouldn't we apply the precautionary principal here? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
We're talking about something as vital and sensitive as bees. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
A lot of people think there's a single smoking gun | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
with respect to pollinator decline, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
but the reality is that pollinators and other biodiversities | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
have been declining over a much longer period of time | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
and there is a whole suite of factors threatening them, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
including the intensification of the landscape, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
which leads to loss of resources, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
so I think we need to consider things in a much more holistic way, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
so I'm a bit concerned about treating pesticides | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
as a single issue that we need to react suddenly upon. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
With many scientists, farmers and even beekeepers | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
saying a ban is premature, the UK government has been trying | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
to block attempts to get neonicotinoids restricted. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
But many on the European mainland, including the European Commission, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
are convinced that a ban is the way forward. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
So, do they know something that we don't? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Well, it's all based on this 58-page report | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
prepared for the European Commission. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
So does this contain the definitive proof | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
that neonicotinoids are killing our bees? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
I'll be taking a closer look later in the programme. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Lying in the heart of Calderdale is Todmorden, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
a small town with big ambitions. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
It straddles the ancient border between Yorkshire and Lancashire. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
And what's happened in this town is having repercussions | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
right across the world. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Here, they're bringing the countryside | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
into the heart of the town by growing food in public places. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
It's part of a movement known as Incredible Edible. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Pam Warhurst is the powerhouse behind it. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
So, Pam, what's the idea behind this? What is the goal? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
The goal is to help people be more self-reliant, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
the goal is to get people thinking of themselves, about their future, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
and to use food as the driving force, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
so you start with what we call propaganda gardens. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
All over the town, there's spaces | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
where you could grow food, you just don't see them. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
Very public - railway station, front of the police station, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
along the towpath here, where people can see what can grow. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And they can taste it. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Everything we plant in these propaganda gardens is food for free. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
So everybody who lives here is entitled | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
-to come down to the towpath and harvest? -Absolutely. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
It starts conversations and once you do that, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
it becomes part of your life, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
so you want to grown more of your own food in your own garden, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
you want to go to your market and support more local growers | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
and your farmers, you want to get your kids | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
learning how to grow and process food. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
All this because you've started to plant propaganda gardens | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
and just shown people what local food looks like. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
This seed of an idea began just six years ago and now it's spread | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
to more than 30 towns across the UK and even around the world. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
There's not a continent that isn't doing Incredible Edible. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Isn't that totally fantastic? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:26 | |
Who'd have thought ordinary people saying, "I want a bit of that, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
"let's do it, we'll never stop it, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
"we'll be doing this till the day we die, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
"and there's nothing better in the world that we'd rather do." | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Even at the school, they've caught the passion | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
for producing their own food. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
They've got a remarkable way of growing fruit and veg indoors | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
and I hear it involves fish. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
What's happening here could revolutionise | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
the local schools' food supply. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
-Now then, Steve, how are you? -Hello, Matt. I'm fine, thank you. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Right then, sir, as we're in a watery classroom, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
you'd better give me a lesson. What's going on here? | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
-Welcome to the world of aquaponics... -Thank you! | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
..where fish feed vegetables. So do you want to find out how that works? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
-Yes, please, yes! -We've got a little diagram over here. -Over to the board. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
Very good. Right, OK. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
So, if you're paying attention, aquaponics is a system | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
of three tanks with water flowing in between all of them. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
So, in the first tank, we have fish. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Fish do what comes naturally - they poo and they pee. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
The ammonia from the fish poo and pee | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
goes into the tank with the bacteria in it | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
where the ammonia is changed into nitrates | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
by the action of friendly bacteria. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
So the nitrates are then pumped | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
into the tank where the vegetables are growing | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and vegetables need nitrates to grow | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
and then the water goes back into the fish tank | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
and the whole process starts again. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
-Feeding time at the zoo! -Yeah! | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
So we've got a big tank here full of 400 goldfish | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and we know all their names, Matt. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
-Really?! -Yeah, Fred 1, Fred 2, Fred 3... | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
MATT LAUGHS | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
So what's the connection between this project and Incredible Edible? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
This project grew out of Incredible Edible | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
and its aim is to produce fish and vegetables for the local schools, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
so we'll be feeding the school kiddies. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
We're learning on goldfish and then we will move onto edible carp. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
How many fish do you actually need for a large quantity of vegetables? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
That's where the maths comes in and it helps with the kiddies, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
so what it is, is there's a ratio - one kilogram of fish waste | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
produces sufficient poo and pee | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
to feed three square metres of vegetables. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
-So this is the floating vegetable patch? -Absolutely, Matt. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
Do you want to have a look here? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
If you move one of the floating beds down slightly, you can see | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
the water underneath and the roots of the vegetables go into the water. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
-You can see this from the garlic. -Oh, my word! | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
There's no soil then? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
It's amazing, there is no soil whatsoever in this whole process. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Is it better than growing in soil? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Because we can control all the temperatures and the nutrients, | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
we can produce all year round. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
What we're finding at the moment | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
is some plants are growing quite quickly. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
This mint, for instance, has come up a centimetre a day. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
And I can only attribute that to the fact | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
that there's a huge amount of nitrates in this water. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
I guess the proof is in the pudding. Is it all right to eat it? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
Well, you've got a big table here in front of you. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
-What would you recommend? -Well, what shall we have a look at? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
There's a bit of lettuce here, Matt. Go for that? Aquaponic lettuce. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
That's a first. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:21 | |
Well... | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
-It tastes lovely, yeah. -Good man. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
I'm convinced, absolutely. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I tell you what, you lot down there, you've done some good work! | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
It's lovely, this lettuce. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
The hills of Calderdale - most are more than 1,300 feet high, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:43 | |
so they catch the prevailing weather. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Often, that's rain, more recently, snow. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
But this landscape also has a more unexpected look - | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
water, water everywhere. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
It's believed that this area has the highest concentration | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
of reservoirs in the UK. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
Now, if you look at this satellite image, you can see you can see why. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
It's absolutely peppered with blue dots and those dots are reservoirs. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
But why build so many just here? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I'm meeting up with Robin Gray to find out. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
It's all down to the Industrial Revolution. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
You had a lot of cotton mills. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
In fact, you could say that Manchester was the powerhouse | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
of the Industrial Revolution and one of the main ingredients was water. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
You had mill owners - they wanted water. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
You had the canals - they needed water for transportation. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
But also, drinking water. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
You've got to remember, in the 19th century, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
they described drinking water as "as black as ink". | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
So without this water, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
that Industrial Revolution might not have happened? | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Everyone knows about coal, but it was actually water that was | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
the vital ingredient that powered the Industrial Revolution. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Many of those reservoirs still remain. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
This is one of them, now known as Hollingworth Lake, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
built more than 200 years ago to supply the Rochdale canals. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
It might have been built for industry, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
but it was soon held in deep affection | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
by the Victorian day-trippers | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
who came here to enjoy paddle steamer rides | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
and the rowing club. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
It became the Rochdale Riviera of its day - | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
an escape from the grime of industry. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Today, this lasting legacy of our industrial past is no lifeless relic. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
On the contrary, it's buzzing with activity. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
I've never tried windsurfing. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
I've always wanted to and apparently this is the perfect place to start. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
Instructor Alistair Pitman reckons he can get me surfing in no time, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
but first I need to learn a few of the basics on dry land. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
Right, Al, where do we start? | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
I want you to get both knees up here, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
then I want you to reach around the mast | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and there should be an uphaul there, so if you grab hold of that | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
with both hands, it'll help you balance when you stand up. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
So I want you to stand up | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
and get your feet one either side of the mast. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Then I want you to crouch down, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
reach as far as you can down that uphaul and then hand over hand, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
pull it up and then put your hands onto the mast. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Hands onto the mast, OK. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
If you lean the sail towards the back of the boat, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
you'll find the boat turns one way. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:22 | |
HELEN GIGGLES Sorry! | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
And if you lean it towards the front of the boat, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
you'll find it turns the other way. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
OK, well, that seems straightforward enough. Shall we take it to water? | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-Yep, why not? I think we're good, I think we're ready. -Yeah? | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
'It's now or never. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
'I really hope I'm not in for a soaking.' | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-It is quite cold, isn't it? -Just a little chilly. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
It's probably about minus seven with the wind chill, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
but the water temperature's about one degree. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
So we're just going to get you up into that sailing position. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
-So grab hold of your mast, remember? -Oh, yeah, the mast. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
I'm practically signing up for the Olympics now, aren't I? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
-Oh, yes, definitely. -Yeah. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
And you're off! | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
That's it, Helen. Well done. Keep your front leg straight. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
Pull in with your back hand a little. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Whoa! | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
I'm not setting any world records just yet. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
Oh, I'm actually moving, aren't I? | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
-Whoops! -I'm on! I'm still on! | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Pull it back up. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
Whoa! There we go! There's a little gust! | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
-Woo-hoo! I'm doing it, yeah? -Yeah. Well done. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
'I can see why people get a kick out of this | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
'and I'll definitely be back to give it another go.' | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
You've done really well today. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
You've still got dry hair, which is impressive! | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
Hollingworth Lake is easy to get to, so it's well used | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
and well looked after, but how do the more remote reservoirs fare? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
Gaddings Dam is perched around 500 feet higher. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
It's a lung-burning hike up a steep hill, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
but I'm assured it's well worth it. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
-Hello, gang. -Hiya. -Hi. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
'There were plans to drain the reservoir, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
'but people here loved it so much, they clubbed together to buy it | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
'and that means they have to keep an eye on it.' | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
What is it about this place that's so special? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
Well, you'll have to see when we get up there, Helen, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
but it's got a unique quality. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
It's on nearly 1,200 feet elevation, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
it's a very popular spot with swimmers | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
and with people from the town coming up for picnics and so on. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
It's a real wonderful place. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Toby, you keep sort of burying your neck into your coat. It is cold. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
-But you've been up there. Is it worth the walk? -Yeah. -Definitely? -Yeah. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-Can you remember coming up here as a little girl, Margaret? -Yes, I do. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
We just used to come up here all the time in the summer. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
At that time there were a lot of mills in the valley, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
so it was quite polluted. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Places like this were a way of getting away from the smoke. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
Do you come up here to clear your head and gather your thoughts? | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
Definitely. It's a steep hill, but within a short period of time, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
you're just on top of the world. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Wow! | 0:18:15 | 0:18:16 | |
-Oh, my word! That is a lot of water! -It is a lot. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
This doesn't feel like Northern England, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
it feels a bit like...Russia when you look over there! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
Hello, chaps. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
This is part of the essential ongoing maintenance | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
that we have to go through to keep the dam walls in good shape. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
They're lifting stones that have fallen down near the water's edge | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
to replace them along the top of the wall. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
'As a final treat, Tim wants to share his favourite spot with me.' | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
Here we are, Helen, this is our beach. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
I don't think I've ever sat on a beach surrounded by ice and snow. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
It is stunning, though. I can see why people love it. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
You're a world away from everyone and everything, aren't you, up here? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Oh, completely, completely. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
We've always claimed it was the highest sandy beach in England | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
and nobody's challenged that yet. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
If you came back here on a summer's day, you'd see people swimming, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
you'd see people from Todmorden up here having picnics, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
people walking their dogs around, it really is a playground for people. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
I want to say that I'm disappointed | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
I haven't brought my swimming costume... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
but that would be a complete lie! Cheers. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
Now, as we heard earlier, Europe is on the verge of banning | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
pesticides vital to many British farmers | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
because they're being blamed for the dramatic decline of bees, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
but are they doing too much too soon? | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Here's Tom. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
Earlier, we heard from a farmer, a scientist and even a beekeeper, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
who were all currently against the ban, | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
but not everyone in the UK feels the same way. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
Some British environmental groups, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
including the RSPB and the Soil Association, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
say evidence is mounting of a danger to bees. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Vanessa Amaral-Rogers from the charity Buglife wants action now. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
How worried are you about the pesticides and the neonicotinoids? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
We're really worried. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
We've been doing a lot of work on neonicotinoids back in 2009 | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
when we sort of found that there was | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
a lot of scientific research around at the time | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
which showed that there was an effect on neonics in pollinators. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
A small amount of the chemical can affect in different ways, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
so making honeybees forage less | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
or not return back to the hive because they get lost. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
It's something that Buglife | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
have been campaigning for right from the start, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
that we want the Government to put a ban in | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
because we're worried about it, the evidence is there. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
But how strong is that evidence? I've been taking a closer look. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
This is the document on which the European Commission | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
have based their opinion in favour of a ban, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
but when you look inside, the data is far from clear-cut. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Where they've got an R in a column, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
it shows there has been a risk identified, but where there's an X, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
they're not so sure, or as they put it, "assessment not finalised". | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
Now, there are a couple of columns with Rs, but all the rest...Xs. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:16 | |
Basically, we still lack definitive proof | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
and the uncertainty over the level of risk has caused mixed reactions. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
So, while many MPs support a ban on neonicotinoids, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
the British Government still thinks we need more evidence. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
People are looking to science for answers, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
but even there, the experts can't agree. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
We're basically measuring everything we can measure about these nests - | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
how many new bees they've produced... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
'At Stirling University, there's yet another research project, | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
'this time on the effects of neonicotinoids on bumblebees.' | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
So these nests have been variously | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
exposed or not exposed to neonicotinoids. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
'Professor David Goulson is looking for a link | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
'between these pesticides and smaller, underdeveloped nests. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
'He is in favour of a ban.' | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
When we were speaking to the farmer, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
he said, "Look, this is a seed dressing, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
"there's a small amount in the seed. By the time the plant's grown | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
"and the bees are feeding on the actual flower, it's infinitesimal," | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
-but are you saying that's still enough to harm a bee? -Well, if... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
Yes, it is. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:25 | |
I mean, it wouldn't work as a pest-control strategy | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
if they weren't toxic at very low concentrations. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
The evidence suggests that | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
if you feed those concentrations to bees, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
you get measurable biological effects - they lay fewer eggs, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
they get lost on the way home, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
they're not so good at gathering food. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
So the long and the short of it is, the concentrations in nectar | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
and pollen of flowering crops ARE enough to affect bees. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
If we have evidence, but inconclusive evidence, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
that these things seriously harm bees and other wildlife, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
then we should stop using them until we've got that evidence, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
until we can definitely say how much they're harming wildlife, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
rather than just carry on blithely chucking them | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
around the countryside until some indefinite future date | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
where we may have acquired that evidence. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
There is a growing consensus among scientists that neonicotinoids | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
have some effect on bee health, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
but without conclusive evidence linking them to the decline of bees, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
currently it's all about weighing up risk. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
So is it better to be safe than sorry? | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Or should we hold out for a clearer answer? | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
If science can help resolve this debate, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
it will be doing a great service to the bees and possibly to farmers too. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
Come on, in you go. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
'In the meantime, the decision on banning neonicotinoids | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
'will have to be made without the luxury of absolute proof.' | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 |